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Do You Really Want a Happy Life Together? - Rabbi Refael Ribacoff
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In terms of what to say to couples that
are out there
in the secular world, they compare it to
a tea kettle on the fire. You put the
water into the pot, it starts to boil.
It starts to give off a lot of noise.
It's very exciting. It's very good. But
once you take it off, take it off the
fire, put on the counter, it starts to
fizzle out. It starts to get cold. So in
the secular world, that's what they
compare marriage. It's all exciting in
the beginning. It's all passion. It's
all love. And then after a while, it
just starts to fizzle out. But I heard
something even better. You want to make
the tea. So you grab for the little tea
bag. And the tea bag is really cute.
Comes in a little package. Smells good.
and then you open it up and you see
there's some strings attached to the
whole thing and before you know it you
dunk yourself into hot water and after a
while it doesn't make any more sense.
But that's a secular view of what
marriage is all about and for us within
the Bkhar community and beyond we have
the rabbis that are here to teach us the
correct way. What does the Torah want
from us? What does Hashem want in his
infinite wisdom when he decided that man
and woman should get married to each
other? If you ask anybody, it's set up
for disaster. And we see the world out
there today, 50% plus divorce rate and
so on and so forth. And within the
community itself, it's it's taken its
toll. But we have to understand that the
Torah is timeless. The Torah has the
answers and the Torah has the guidance
that we need. If I can quote Rabbi Kavas
is he says
it's not the fact that they have that
are not successful in their married
life. It's because they're not educated
enough to understand. He says and he
claims I can take any man or woman teach
them what they need to know about
married life and they'll be able to have
a happy life together with each other. I
truly believe that if you have the
correct education, you have the right
mentors, you have the right guidance in
your life, you'll be able to succeed in
your married life and we should be to
have the wonderful marriages that we're
supposed to have and we should have and
be the examples for our children in
order to raise them in the right way.
I guess religion is always a tough a
sticky subject between the couples. A
lot of times the question is uh when you
first were going out when you decided to
get married to to this individual what
level were they holding by? Did you know
um that they were on a different level
than you to begin with or you're both on
the same level and things start to
change after you got married? Um so that
always plays an important part in terms
of you married me this is who I was this
is who I am and why don't you accept me
it was fine then why is it a problem
now? uh when things do change over time
um it's never easy because other person
has to be willing to accept upon
themselves religion whether it's keeping
Shabbat or for a woman to dress mine or
to cover her hair or for the husband to
get up early to go to Davening or to
learn. So it's always a challenge but
the main thing is to remember you can
never force religion on another
individual. It has to be done with
patience or with time. If they have the
proper guidance, if they if you push
them, motivate them, encourage them to
want to grow or or to give them at least
an opportunity to have a support group
or to go to classes or to shurim or to
sh but they have other people that can
influence them as well. So sometimes you
can say the same thing over and over and
over again and it doesn't hit home. But
then when somebody else says something
all of a sudden, oh this this person
told me something and I know and I've
been telling you this all the time. How
come you don't get it? So sometimes it
doesn't have to come from you. It has to
come from somebody else, from a third
party in order for them to understand
that. But the main thing to remember is
don't force it. Don't be upset. Accept
them for who they are. And just like
even for yourself, the religion aspect
of it doesn't happen overnight. It took
time. It was a process in terms of when
you got to that point. So give them an
opportunity as well and work with them.
Be patient with them. Try to learn with
them or give them the right
opportunities that they should have the
support group or other people to try to
help them and to help them grow as well.
The effort is based on whose judgment.
um if the husband is doing his best
effort that's what he feels is the right
thing to do but it might not be what the
wife wants or needs and therefore he's I
won't say wasting his time but he's not
hitting the mark because he's not
addressing the problem of the wife um
there's a famous um author who came up
with what's called the five love
languages um I definitely recommend it
for everyone to read it and to
understand it that everyone has their
own love language that they need in
their life and everyone is So the
problem that you have is that if you
think that your love language is whether
it's um caring behaviors or or touch or
whatever it is. So you judge the other
person based on what you need or want
for your own love language or what
things that you want done to you. So
therefore you think that the other
person wants that same thing. You cannot
use yourself as the barometer to
understand what the other person wants
based on what it is that you want. You
have to learn what is the other person
wants and needs. And that's our job. and
and and as a guy, you know that the
woman they're they're not very open in
terms of expressing what they want or
what they need. They just want to see if
the guy is is listening every once in a
while and paying attention at times when
she drops a little hint. So, this is
what she wants. Does he get it or not?
And therefore, you have to understand
that that that part of the marriage game
will say is trying to nitpick the other
person's brain to try to understand what
it is that they want and they need. And
our job over time is that the other
person should at least encourage and
help the other person understand what
they want and need because otherwise you
know he he's doing he feels frustrated
that I'm trying so hard but it's not
really getting anywhere. So the main
thing is as was mentioned before in
terms of communication sitting down try
to understand each other and try to take
the opportunity to try to understand the
other person better in order for you to
be able to give to them and not just do
whatever you want and think is the right
thing to do and they shall understand
even the garra says that the
mother-in-law hates the daughter-in-law.
Not for everyone but there is
there is a tugof war that's going on
over there between the mother-in-law and
the wife.
The mother raised up the child,
pregnant, giving birth, sleepless
nights. He is what he is today because
of the mother. She fed him. She clothed
him. She took care of him. And all of a
sudden, this little girl comes around,
wraps him around his little finger and
wishes him off and takes care of him.
And and she knows how to take care of my
Sunny Bunny. I know how to make his
eggs. I know how to fold up his laundry.
I take care of his bed. No, I I I know
I'm going to take care of him. She
doesn't know anything. I need to teach
her.
And unfortunately, they grew up in that
in that society, that mentality where
their mother-in-law took care of them
and
the little broom and uh she taught her
how to take care of it. But it doesn't
really work today
in America.
So, I tell the guys, the hardest
question you'll have to deal with in
life is having to choose between your
mother and your wife. It's Thursday
afternoon. Your mommy calls. Hi, Jonah.
How are you? How's everything? How's it
going? It's been a long time since he's
been to our house for Shabbat. What do
you say you guys come over for Shabbat?
We'll have a nice dinner together or get
together. You know, the family, we miss
you.
And the guy, of course, wants to get
away. Wants to go visit his mommy. But
he's a nice guy. He tells his he tells
his mother, "Listen, wait, I okay, I I I
you know, I really want to come, but let
me double check with my wife. Let me get
back to you. We'll we'll call you back
later time." No worry. Call me. I'll
wait for you. Make sure it's a yes.
Bye-bye.
He comes home all excited. Jonah,
listen. You don't have to cook tonight
for Shabbat. Listen, we're going to our
parents house. Don't worry about it.
Everything's taken care of. Let's go.
She invited us over. Everything's fine.
His wife's like, "I really wanted to
stay home. I'm tired. I'm exhausted. I
spent a nice time together with you, a
nice candle at dinner, you know, just
the two of us alone. I don't want to go
to your parents house." What do you do?
What's the answer?
So if you think about it, we just read
last week in
the ten commandments number five. It's
way up there. You have to honor the
parents. You would think that what the
Torah says you got to go to your parents
house. And even in it says that the wife
has to honor respect her husband's
parents because by respecting them she
respects them. She has to respect him
too. So you would think that what the
Torah says you have to go, the says you
have to go. But what's the right answer?
The answer is you go,
you stay home, you spend time with your
wife. So I asked the guys,
how is that possible? Where does it say
in the Torah that Shalom trumps and
beats out on number five of the ten
commandments? How do you know this?
Where does it say? So says you know but
because it says in the beginning
a person has to get married has to leave
his parents house has to ping to his
wife become one that's very nice I'll
give you a different answer if you want
I asked the guys when does your
connection with your fiance with your
wife begin does it start underneath the
ka when you put the little ring on the
finger does it start by the engagement
when you give her the engagement ring
does it start on the first date or does
it even begin when you make that first
phone call to go out with her and every
guy will say something else the first
date the phone call okay I said you're
wrong there's another answer I didn't
tell you we know the zor tells us that
before you and your wife get married you
are one nishama up in the sky you're one
soul and when the time came for you to
become born and time came for her to be
born cuts this nishama up in half and
half goes to her and half goes to You
you come to this world blah blah blah
blah and then you come to get married
together with each other in this world.
The connection that you have with your
life is even older and stronger than is
with your parents. How can that be?
Because the Torah tells us there are
three partners in the creation of a
child. There's the mother, there's the
father and the parents give you your
physical body and Hashem gives you the
parents bring you into this world. If
you ask the guy a question, when does
begin? When does it start? When you're
born. They bring you into this world.
They took care of you. The rabbis
explain comes from the from the idea of
showing goodness and respect and honor
and and for all the good that they've
done for you. They raised you, took care
of you, they housed you, they clothed
you, they gave you everything you ever
wanted. Out of the goodness of my heart,
the the least I can do for them is to is
to honor and respect them. And the
Bahans have a saying, one father can
take care of 10 children. 10 children
cannot take care of one father. Because
what a parent does for a child, the the
children will never have to pay it back
because you give it from your own heart
because they're a part of you. So
therefore, your wife comes first. Your
obligation is to her and your first
priority as mentioned before as well. It
has to be number one on the list is your
spouse. Number two is maybe the children
and everybody else comes afterwards. But
you have to understand it's time to grow
up and and to understand what the Torah
was expects from you that you have to
think to your wife and leave the parents
alone. Don't worry about it. They'll
live. They'll survive. Getting to
question number two.
One time I had a couple that came over
for counseling
and they're sitting there and the wife
tells me, "Rabbi, don't ask what
happened last week." I said, "What
happened?" I said, "We're sitting by his
parents' house Friday night dinner and
the whole family is there anda they're
all attacking me." It's the wife
talking. I said, "Really? Where was your
husband?" She's like, "He was right
there next to me and just nothing.
Nothing.
oblivious to everything.
I tell the guy, "What do you want your
wife to do? If she's going to get up and
answer back to your father, they're
going to put a big X on her and your
life is over with her. She disrespected
the parents. God forbid. It should never
be heard of.
She can't say really say anything."
That's where you come in. As again was
mentioned before, you have to be the one
to get up and to stick up for your wife.
If if you don't feel that your wife is
an extension of you, she is a part of
you, she is your other half, then you
have a problem because only you can
answer back to your parents because
they'll they'll accept it from you. It's
okay if it comes from you and there's a
way to deal with it. And if it doesn't
end, you can get up and say, you know
what, guys, if it's not going to stop
and end, we're going to get up and
leave. That's okay. You can do that. She
can't. So, it's your responsibility to
make sure that you stick up and defend
your wife because that's what she wants
and that's what she needs. Of course,
there has to be boundaries between the
in-laws and and and the couple. Okay?
It's very difficult sometimes for the
wife because of the way the dynamics and
society is set up with the community.
So, we have to understand that how to
play the game properly. You have to get
your w your husband on board to make
sure that he understands his
responsibility. And it's not a
disrespect to the parents by you
sticking up for your wife and understand
that you need to have your own space and
your own time. They can't just walk in
whenever they want. They can't just do
whatever you want. They can't just say
whatever they want. It's your
responsibility as the husband to make
sure that you're together with your wife
and as a concerted effort as a team
you'll be able to overcome everything
that everything should work out as well.
The problem that we have today is that
the only way we know how to discipline
is by yelling and screaming and hitting
is because that's the way we learn from
our parents how that's how they
disciplined us and that's what's been
ingrained within us and that's the only
way we think is the way to discipline
our own children. But as we see today,
that's not the way to go. In the days of
old, you would just look at the child
and he'll be just be embarrassed, put
his head down and maybe do other things
in his pants. But but today, the kids
are they look back at you, they'll
answer back at you. They're they're a
little bit more I won't say, but a
little bit more brazen than they are the
days of old. So the ways of parenting of
old doesn't really work today. And and a
lot of the rabbis have said over the
years is that the only way to discipline
a child today is through love. It's
through with a nice way by not being so
hard on them and difficult and
disciplining in ways that you have to
expose yourself to other methods and
techniques and and strategies that are
out there today in terms of how to
discipline a child. Somebody mentioned
to me before the tells us
you have to educate the child according
to his needs. And every child, as you
see within within families that have
multiple children, every child is
different. And some children are very
obedient and some children are very
offensive and you know positional and
and problematic and and and that's fine.
And God decided to give you this special
child for you to take care of because
you and your spouse are the ones that
will be able to educate the child in the
best way that's possible. Of course, you
have to be an example of what it is to
be a mench and a woman in terms of
having values and ethics and morals and
behaving the right way. Working in
yeshiva, you see children that are very
angry and and also resort to hitting.
You know, what do they learn it from? I
mean, you might you might argue they're
learning from the TVs, from the movies,
and whatever is out there today, but a
lot of times a lot of the the curse
words that they come with and and the
hitting aspect of it, they learn it from
their parents. from from daddy will say
because the kid knows that when daddy
gets angry he hits somebody and
therefore when I get angry in school
somebody's going to bother me I'm going
to hit him because that's what daddy
taught me so is that is that the
education that you want to give over to
your own children so you have to
like I said try to try to learn read up
on other methods speak to other rabbis
other mentors therapists um in terms of
understanding the different ways that
there are to educate and to discipline
the children it doesn't have to be you
losing your temper, losing your patience
and and resorting to hitting it. It's
for yourself as well to learn how to
control your anger, which is an
important aspect for for everyone. Anger
management is definitely a problem for a
lot of couples today and they have to
definitely work on it. But the kids job
is to press your buttons. That's what
they're here for. Okay? So, we have to
understand that we don't let them press
the buttons and we're the ones that try
to discipline in the right way. And as
well should open up your eyes and give
you the clarity to understand how to
educate the children and to raise up a
beautiful family as well.
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