Halachos Pertaining to Shabbos Afternoon on Erev Purim - Shiur by Rabbi Nochum Scheiner

this shab is p so pastors you would think okay PM falls out M shabas sometimes it can fall out in middle of the week next year actually it's going to fall out Friday no major na that it's M shabas over a different day of the week this past Wednesday night at the night K I went through theas relevant to the pertaining to shabas is it maybe if there'll be some time at the end of the she I'll try to recap it the the rash if not it's available on the's website on Torah anytime in today I would like to focus on a couple of other being that PM falls out to be mat shabas number one uh Standalone Den being that is and you do not say you do not say shabas what's about in the morning so that's a separate discussion that's not relevant to per being mat shabas that's a sh brings if you say you don't say [Applause] don't are the says if you make your sud by night the has to be by day you should still make somewhat of a sud By Night brings it that even a year this year that P is still the of the is applicable that what's the I mean if to have a sud a little bit of a sud what should why should it be different if it's mat shabas soov ketki explains in emov that one would have a the reason of the why to have a sud is because you were fasting and you shouldn't come to so M you should sit down you should eat on a different fast I mean it's practical usually you would probably want to eat anyways butum you should make sure to sit down sit down you were fasting the whole day and it's not cover that you should be you should be hungry and P a different fast out of mind you got busy and you'll eat first in five hours no problem P you should sit down to eat if that would be the reason so then you wouldn't have that reason because we're not coming into we ate the whole shabas we'll get's see in a minute you should still have it and the reason for that is the B himself says reason says the reason is it's a long but says first of all just like the by night it's a different Crea we spoke about it it's not the same K as by day it's he says the sud as well and also see by day by make somewhat of even shabas you also make the you also should make uh adds on and says like this you want to be able to eat tomorrow night to be and keep it a little lighter on your sh this so you should be able to be BRS these words of being careful in a sud himself you see in the winter is it's hard to eat not to eat such a big suda the first suda the morning sud so you should be able to eat tomorrow afternoon when you eat sh don't eat a full sh when it comes you can't eat it's like this you can eat this this is says it doesn't mean literally to be in to eat is aah you're going to be eating when you're hungry or you want to eat it's doesn't mean not to eat or to eat less of a it just means don't be so stuff that if you have to sit down to eat this so that you should be careful but it doesn't mean that have a lighter sh what says the sud so yeah you're still going to have because you can eat another suda so don't eat such a big suda in the morning but here it just means be careful that don't eat a regular sh but just be careful in the sense that you should be able to eat somewhat of a suda By Night says that the whole is not even he says the doesn't bring it he doesn't bring it for this reason eat regular sh and whatever will be it'll be very good you brought up about Mal i t don't I don't know I don't know what the answer is what's the whole discussion that you should be able to eat what what's always Mal butu what I do want to say when it comes Mal make sure to watch what did you say get away with a piece of cake so so also really is also to wash so because of here is more of indan to wash over could be could be yes means to make it a environment unless the food they bring bki a year like this yearas used to have extra food in his BL Mal in honor of the what we find brings this when sh so you can't you're not you're going to add another for so this for this a person has a so you should add something on in honor of the sud good so a person's eating sh whether if he's eating a full sh is eating sh he's coming now to bench and it's already m m shabas so for shabas you say but now it's m it's already one second one second that could be it's not so negated because most people to finish before shabas you want to be ready to go laning Milla costumes but if someone's eating shabas afternoon and it goes into shabas you started the sud and now it's at night already it's already P so very good like this is not a new sh over here foras of every shabas leading into rashes very good very good we just had it exactly this pastes Sunday Monday so shabas going into into do you say do you say do you say both today to go into the discussion about it but the three one she holds only say because that's when you one she is to only say because now is when you're benching one she is to say both a sh about to go with this she and to eat another kazas at night also and some are ner to make sure not to eat yesus going into the night even ifus goes into the night not to get into any shus you finish shus before before M shabas this is in a nutshell so really really the same shil would be over here going into Le purm the same question is it is it is it both is clearly even if you finish deep into you do not say that's brings it clearly no undisputable you don't say so what's the what's the says like two three words he says he actually brings it in in in also that of is a what does it mean that it's a so first of all the G this is what the [Music] means theor clares do you mention Al in benching yes or no thear cles thear says whatever you want to do if you that means says if you go a few lines later in the gamar the gamar says that you only say only when there's a carbon shabas carbon sorry a carbon shabas is a carb is a carbon there are no carbon and therefore there's no we do say it that's it's therefore what it's a lot more meaning to say you never have to say it okay you say it it's more you say it but when it comes to sh over here and you don't say it it's interesting to note that here also BR kki was ner even this Shas also which is somewhat of more of a why because on a regular shab leading into to do here it seems very clear you don't say it but could you don't say it because V it's a not to go into the he was and he finish early but no it's CL just to add on a little bit more like you said what's like theat they bring in the name of the that says like this to say both it's a little bit of a Cas that it's TI of the because if it's not a one of the questions is that you can't say both because it's TI of theas you're saying because it's shabas and because it's so which one is it is it shabas which is shabas or is it is the next day which one so he explained that when you say both but doesn't have to be a of the cuz you start with say then afterwards you say that's the transition you don't have you didn't say but you're saying because chab then after you finished you say you're laughing it's you say now it's now it's the exact moment no it does doesn't have to be that the is good that the that there is is saying but the is it doesn't have to be tired to the S because you're changing was today and but listen V what you say says even if you're doing it late you would if you bench late late on a regular week say say he's saying and then after he's saying the the is which one is been rever very good so before we even get into your point if the order would be reversed you don't say the the answer is yes we'll get to that in a split second there are those that have the Min that that go like this that say both taka but when it comes to only say CU you said already now it's you're going back to shabas they only to say but very good what you pointed out so what's if the order would be the other way around so the answer is you wouldn't what's the that's what they say even those that have the minute to say and like we explained because that's the order por KN or for the same matter khah going into Kana that's the same also into the first night khah is you also do not say Al is earlier so what when you bench thisas you're gon to say that it's and then you're going to go V to say shabas if it's p him it's not chabas so that would be a hper why that in what we're saying now that you do not say cuz once you said Al in the beginning of Bing you already claim to say that it's p once is p it's not chabas mention doesn't mention that you're right it doesn't mean because it says is that you're saying the only because it's it's not the discussion now but you actually you can't St say what it's not even I've gotten this question I don't remember clearly but you can't if you're not in you don't say so if you're saying it's so if it's Pur then it's not chabas what' say you can't just say it you could say it right here you could say it but to put it into benching you can't put it into benching with the daving do it I have to be why not you say why can't you always give a the of and what what is it I don't I don't remember right now why not but I I'm you can't you can't just put it in means that out was that you say it on you don't say it yet I'm not sure you're adding in I mean it's talking it's a half SEC next year he put in what maybe it is a in the you can't just stop talking you say midle I want start adding in my Yeah by you could but not you can't the middle you could put in by you can't add in also for all the great things that I have so nice what CIT be next year for us for next year per Friday you can you could say and then very good very very good someone's pus mades next year so he's going to bench Friday night and you say how can you do that no you don't bench that's the whole that's the V onea how can you say how can you say k is like this you ask is asking already made KES when you say by Bening is it's not is it is it notas even after you said y like I mentioned before it doesn't mean that it's not chabas anymore and it doesn't mean that you could do it just fering the T of the when you're benching now are you benching shabas or the ter is till now I was benching shabas right now I'm benching R even if it is shabas or it's notes the problem is in the benching what are you benching for Shas or no no even even if you benching five hours after the man it's also some say you have to eat afterwards you ate some say you still can't say because it's TI to the no I'm saying before you bench no even then good let's let's we'll move along a little bit it's you don't do everything you do things Friday you do things Sunday yeah when do you say good good that's there'll be some on there's a lot of talk and everything even though it's so straightforward the there's a lot what to talk about it's all I just want to say even it's 100% Friday night I could still hear it's not a to the because is the beginning benching applies to p and then afterwards when you continue on the say ising of shabas even though you ready Ma shabas just like M shabas unless tell me is more of a you could say don't say we by by pus MAA yeah I think it's could be it's t but it could be also it's tall the same if he says should be tall that let's move now we finish when do you say after Kadesh P him by night when do you say kades the SC there is a I think it's right after right after that maybe I think brings it that you say even again say after after before Milla so this year when do you Sayes you should really say it after we say vades every year but shabas you should say it after vades Milla regular year we say it before Milla so when do you say it you say it right after why because every year to reason you say right after is going on you say on and only by with one exception actually and over there the H is is like but you only say when when that you should say it connect to so on a regular night we say to SC right away because m is a half so we say it right away the is included Mondays and Thursdays is included so it's true reg say after but for the reason that m is a t this of shabas we say t right away after it's G when people make the split you see for some people that there's no so they always have you you go back to maybe to start a little later to give people time to prepare bring the but on a but on a u but if but if places that the each so you could also you could stop after but if they so you say when do you make a do and and then these a break and then CA or in the house when do you when do you when do you when do you make AB so the says you make you read is later over here brings if Mill's first or haval is first and the among others explain that it's just like is it I think we spoke about it over here what's the it's not say first it's then because it's is because to be push so that's why you li and then you make ABA how is the the not eating before landing on the regular form eating right you say take a little coffee a little tea if some of these before the m laning one second one second now we're talking about just by drinking so how he had had to to drink y we're going to get to that in a minute about drinking wine you ow to drink wine before MIT we'll get to that in a minute as one second one second one second one second who who's talking about eating over here you could eat you're benched and you now now or after Thea is on Aus that's why people but but this still it says the time is he having a little tea a little coffee yeah yes so I'm I'm not I'm sorry I'm not C getting well they bring it in that most years po it says person is a little bit weak before yeah yeah yeah that's right so why is he he's not allowed to have a snack like a maon is just a coffee or tea so so she saying how would he be able to make I'm sorry I didn't get it how does he able to make a dollar before good so we'll get to that Al in a minute we'll get to that Al you could you could you could drink even before any Mitzvah get that momentarily so what's first hav or hav or one should be first because it's reading the m and then it's still is because then comes later so like this if you're in a that just has sh or even so they don't give you there don't G to make before so you make later and if there's a break and you feel it's better for the S to make AB earlier you'll make a earlier the brings I saw the big inside he says that there are only speaking about in the house he says you should make AB first because you should you really shouldn't do before AB if you're in and you can't make AB before you'll make AB later so to to conclude either way you can make a dollar before you can make a dollar afterwards as a matter of a fact it's not but you could also make before you can make that if you make dollar before it's a I think it's a but you could do it if the mat over here told you go you're going to come back 5 hours later whatever the is you could make a before and the says if you make before you still say very good lighting the fire before and the EM is that this is an important note whether whenever you make the whenever you're going to start doing shabas or like you said to prep or for many people even if you're going to make a later and you're going to start preparing you're going to go on your car to drive to Sho with the whatever M some costumes you have to also do coloring whatever you do before if you make so you mention a drink before a Mitzvah so first of all M speaks about it they could drink a coffee even suus before that's M it's a big but one thing I want to point out is that the says that you allow to drink as much as you want and when it comes to something that's so means you could drink if you make AB wine out on grape juice you could drink up before mitvah just like before before one last then and with this I conclude um the Sha fry says that you shouldn't preferably you shouldn't have two B cuz it's more to have one person laning throughout if let's say somewhat in middle of the laning the kind of it doesn't work out I don't think that's what we do but you should even have go back to the beginning it's more to have one it's more one person the whole Ling that the M of Le is not like that why because people are fasting people are fasting and for some reason has to take over the Milla you don't go back to the beginning for this m shabas would come out being that the's not fasting if one would be go with this sh not to have two this would have said there isn't time to even go about the other de I'm just going to say what we spoke about because the said that's also a lot important this shabas you're allowed to the laning of this is all I discussed Wednesday night to hear more by you'll have to listen to the she this shabas it's m to be met Milla you want to move it calm go but even though it's m to be matal the Milla you not you should not bring it to sh but because that's a and if a person takes a nap this shabas afternoon your intention could be for whatever reason but better not to say that I'm taking a nap today cuz I want to be rested for M of shabas even if you're you're saying that should be rested for shabas for the MIT it's better not to do it it goes into sh have a wonderful shabas and h