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Hadlokas Neiros on Shabbos - Whose Mitzvah, Dinei Habracha and how many candles
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Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner at Beis Medrash Ohr Chaim in Monsey, NY
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in tonight's
year I would like to cover three
topics and end on time
also number
one who
is with the Mitzvah of shabas number two
the BR the BR the Mitzvah and number
three how many n how many candles to
light m
who so the we learned already we started
this the beginning of
Theon is for men and for
women so why ladies
now the the
says as well the
says
whoever even though
it's included in the
any they're
also as well they also have that so just
like the
any
of in theah near shabas as
well you actually find
that the Mitzvah of
eating sud shabas or maybe actually sh
the brings that explains why he has a a
different reason and then he says the
reason why is
ladies are
also now is like this who lights does
everybody light by Mah Mah even though
it's theas everyone can light could
everybody
light so the emses the
emses that there was such a Min by some
I
saw used to light his wife the rabbits
and lit and he also L with a but but
it's not so par for two
reasons like
the you can't just go and lie to make a
number one
CU one even though as we said you lie in
the dining room where the suit is for
and you have to lie in the rest of the
house as well also
Shas but this one BR covers the whole ad
so it's not so you could light but to
make not
so the
whole the a big sh look because we have
electric so we don't really need it do
we do the we make a but for more people
to light and to make more
that's only one person shall light so
who lights
if it's a house that is only a man or
only a lady it's par whoever is in the
house he's the one who lights but let's
say let's say he's a husband and wife
and only one person lights who
lights they have the Mitzvah and these
three reasons for it says two reasons
one they in the house they're around
more I don't know if it means that
they're around by the Z or the
they're connected more to the house the
husband is out learning and KY is out
working that's reason number one the
second reason the says is because
they're they prepare the food they clean
the house they take care they make sure
that the house is
functional a third reason brings is that
the as well also
the was supposed to live forever the of
the was that should which came through
the lady
was it's better she do to bring
back three
reasons the the lady
has and we're going to hear more about
it that
is going to give a I believe
more I'm just bringing the point that it
belongs to the says that if the husband
goes and lights the the lights the
shabas he has to pay like he took away a
mitzah brings not like that he argues
you don't have to but belongs to
her the Mitzvah belongs to the wife to
the lady however all the
preparations is on the
husband the
brings to prepare the including in the
preparation is what the ra says that
over here the says at the end
of the says that to make it easier to
light you're supposed to light the
candles and put it out makes it easier
like the M over there explains first
makes it easier but frat when the lady
is going to come light right before
shabas it shouldn't take as long so
light it and you put it out this also
this also is part of the the husband
should do
it this
concept
that is on the husband
the the M
says in child
birth if they're
not they
not and
asks by it doesn't say if they're not n
and it says so why doesn't it
say if they're not
what's and if you're saying so the Miss
should also
say of course we're referring to theah
of but for the lady to get the Kal it's
Kal it's the whole business but peering
the door making the whole Kal it's
it's
only everything up the till she lights
it that's all on the H appear brings the
the says that everything is dinner on
the husband to
prep he has to pay for it or she has to
pay
for I want Tak you want to know who has
to pay who has to pay for it I mean the
EMS is that they're both that's like
what I started it's CL you mean pay to
make sure that you have an air from
whose bank account you mean does it come
from is it something that's extra her
Mitzvah say so the EM is is the husbands
also they even speak about what G
is that's not the the discussion but he
also has a see he would he has to pay
has to pay maybe they should chip and
they should buy but but if he has to
prepare it so that means also has to pay
for it I don't know it's both both have
to do both do it and she liks it he also
has a that the house should have n who
does
the what you
say everything else anyone everyone is
doing it's his also he's it who does
the put it like this the that's clear
both have
the of who does the
the she does so you could gine here that
he has to pay also because he needs the
cover as
well
lady the she pay for it yeah
has Supply so I wonder if the is maybe
because that's part of appearing it how
could you appear it if you don't have it
what
say what
say everybody has
yeah says it's only the why should he be
only she has
okay and
he the the's why she they should both
have to pay for it it's a Mitzvah on
both she does
the what say she uses her own money
might
have I'm not sure I'm not sure sometimes
you have you want because you want to be
included if she does the myad loer and
he her own money and he lives in the
house and he has shabas and he has
shabas and he has Shas I don't see why
shouldn't be y why shouldn't he be y he
has to pay for the
ne he's
what what happens good will be
M good to be M what happens l
if the mother the wife is not in the
house who who's
M who's mck so they
bring that if the the lady's not there
the light why because they have the same
that the wife gets
it take care the house they have the
reasons the M they should light it's
interesting I'm I'm talking about if
only one person lights and who's the one
as we said the wife lights what's if
she's not
there
think
was and he started lighting the cand and
his sister was also she said I should
light the candles so said she should she
get the even though had already
interesting her she gets I'll get to
that in a second saying very good
we'll get in a second but just this when
stole the husband the father you talking
about a case that it was just the
brothers and the sisters but let's see
he's the father says the daughter should
the son Miss is and he says between
husband and
wife when he's a husband and wife so the
the wife is M
but and it's both both of their Mitzvah
when the wife is not
there have why the daughter should light
but the husband and the wife so if the
wife doesn't do it and the husband
doesn't
he's what happens they both R away the
parents went the children are home so
it's a very Hills bring up a different
side the is even we'll get to that even
the sun started ready but let's see the
parents are
away the daughters
over the Suns but this case would be a
case that the Suns already started
that's a you take it away cuz I still
him the says that doesn't light the
first week the first week after someone
gave birth she doesn't light the husband
shall light so so what does that mean I
mean if she's away so she stop that's
what we just spoke about obviously she's
away so then she can't
light but if she's home why shouldn't
she light so
the brings this and he says the it's
talking about that at least in those
days
that she couldn't get up to go light the
N
so is which brings later you could bring
the N to her and she could light over
there in her bedroom and she can light
there with the but the says that it's
not you shouldn't light and then move
the N somewhere else if you could leave
the nus over there then Tak she should
light but if L you move it away rather
she should not lie that's what the tear
is but if a lady comes home she gave
birth Monday she's home two days later
from the hospital she's home she didn't
go away and she could go she could get
up she'll go to the
dining's 100%
if bring
it what say you bring it
to I I it's better to leave it over
there to be M to leave it over
there than to move it away because the
says you're not supposed to the brings
Su also if you shouldn't lie in the suck
then move it
elsewhere
look if you're not supposed to
move so so it's NE you're not supposed
to move it even if it's yum if the first
night suck us that's you should have
move it but even in such a let's say she
lights and even like let's say we
learned the bah that it is a cabal
shabas but it's only cabal shabas for
her so the husband or somebody else
could come could have it she'll light
and he'll move it away wasn't M shabas
yet what that's the reason you mean no
we can't move it
why can't you move the N what do you
mean which case only that you can't be
be the whole is
made say not to move it not to move
that's
why y if you can't move the
NYS so I'm saying we're talking about
it's before shabas she lit and it's not
chabas yet and somebody else wants to
move it I don't do
it so tell me tell me
where's stad
says that you can move
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it let's move on now to the next the of
being when do you make the bra so we
spoke about about in the previous year
when do you make the
bra speak about a little bit afterwards
more to be when do you make the so
the you make the like the
says so you make the first and after the
after the you you do the Mitzvah that's
the Posas however Z brings two days one
day is T to make the first one day is
not to make the BR first because with
the you can't light anymore so you light
and then you make the
I I you already literally you did the
Mitzvah so the ter say you cover your
eyes what are you gain with that you not
yet so even though you did do the as
we're going to see
soon but if you do
a and then you're not from the not so
she covers her eyes but that she's not
in the hand yet from the till after she
makes a so
it's you have the she wouldn't be in you
don't have the
why can't you
be why can't you be with with
oil why
not she doesn't have goes on that but
what comes out
let's say so so again the M says you
make the bro and then you light we don't
do that most people they light and then
they make the it's
not that's what you
do why because if you're going to make
theas so the what come out is a a man
that lights whether a single person the
wife is not around a h a man that liks
should yes make the BR
first and the same would be a lady let's
say she's not being ma shabas we spoke
about of so she's not
being
then that she can make the first do it
properly do the
afterwards hold like
that a man that lights shabas and a lady
that's lighting with a she's not being
shabas they hold you should Tak switch
it around to make a and then afterwards
light brings
it
however and they say you're right you're
right should be like that that you make
the first and then you light because
it's however however
imagine the week before she made a t so
she makes the BR first and the next week
she has to remember to switch back and
forth and forth and back and then the
husband one week like this and it gets
mixed up so L plug always across the
board first you light and then you make
the Tak so says very
good that was the next thing was going
to get to very good y as well also y
it's moreid
person let's go regular I'm not going to
get into the sh when you li on y you li
on you're
lighting and and with
the you could
be and then you could light because you
a lot of light on y so and the the
brings bash mother that y to switch it
around yum when when the wife sends left
she should first make the because that's
that's the right
way after making the to
light and he Tak argues and he says this
that says in the name of his mother to
switch it around you don't for the same
reason what say
so brings in the case not by but he
brings in a regular case and he's
handling by is also to double check I
saw a few times even today but but I
think it's also even though you're right
plug but I think the get of plug it's
going to get mixed up the wife's going
to see that week when the husband did it
like this it's it's always across the
board but you're right you could
be between
her is like this and the next week
is as a
you're saying you could say that it
isn't a the husband when the man lights
he always makes the
first what happens if a person forgets
to make the
BR so they lit so even if you make the
BR afterwards you cover the eyes it's
attached to that what happens if
somebody forgot to make a br could you
make a br
later so the m
BR doesn't speak about that case he
speaks at a different case in the olden
days it was much more common that he was
weddings air of shabas the was Friday
afternoon and the suda was the Friday
night suda to save money had the sud of
the and Sh all in one
package so the was Friday late Friday
afternoon she would want to light nous
now but then she's maab shabas like we
saw from the bah
but she still needs more time last
minute
preparations take an hour she needs a
few more minutes after the it's going to
be too late she can't lie anymore what
should she
do what should she
do brings that she shall light before
without
a and make the
later by night Friday night she'll make
the
so what comes out Le this if we would
stop right here if a lady or a man
forgets to make
the could you make a the answer is yes
and even if they remember Friday night
to the case that when she lit and she
didn't want to make she didn't want to
make that she can make the even Friday
night so may if you forget the same
thing
however the argues brings from the I
think he argues yet and others that that
you that you can't for two reasons first
of all because the Mitzvah is the
Mitzvah is to light the and you did it
already two hours later you can't make
the how could you
say I have a Civ now to light n it's
Friday night you don't have it C to
light you don't have
a you cannot make
a s Friday night because you have two
reasons the reason it's already
lit Friday afternoon also you can't why
not because you can't
say lit
already oh so be give me two minutes be
a little more
ofah we'll be a minute to see so what
what do we have so far the marash says
that if a lady forget or comes out from
the marash if a lady forgets to light
nus I'm sorry to make the she can make
the even Friday
night that even if she even Friday
afternoon she lit and you schim the
light 40 minutes before she lit and she
just wanted to do one thing shabas and
she forgot to make the BR even before
shabas you can't
then there is a
third himself and the
beer says that he's
a if it's Friday afternoon she could
still make a br if it's Friday night she
cannot make
a as we explained Friday
night the problem in general that you
already did a Mitzvah in addition to
that how could you SA
Friday
night so what's what's better and what
Friday afternoon she could so the says
that if a lady forgets Friday afternoon
to make the BR and it's before sh she
can make the BR Friday night you cannot
make the
BR so so what's the hez what's the HRA
in the and this will also come a little
bit to what you were pointing out to
bring out the Auda
this that the says you have to
be is it meaning to say is if somebody
did a Mitzvah already could you make the
BR afterwards he picked up the he did a
mitvah put it down he's done could you
make the now
if it's this that you have to make a
before is it or
not you cannot make the
afterwards however if you're still a
middle of the Mitzvah you're
wearing you're holding the L you already
picked it up but you're still in middle
of the mitz if you're still in middle of
the Mitzvah you can make the
bra many many examples you can make
the it's true you already lit and
the is to light that was done already
however you still he's still a key
Mitzvah what's the key of Mitzvah if
it's Friday afternoon he's covered he's
going to be there's going to be sh the
key of is still applicable so for the
you can
make Friday night you also have
a Friday night
by you have the so why can't you make
the Friday night the ter is the other
reason that we said you can't make
the you can't make the how could you
say Friday
night the other point that we said that
it's not over is over because you still
have the part of the mitv the cover the
and the
shom just real quickly and biter we'll
go in a little bit into the part
three how many candles are you supposed
to
light is there is there a minimum to be
is an amount of
n what' you say two so the answer is not
two the answer is one to be
important with
one make a nice
one in a previous year I said over the
that's bothered that if
the after the first
with
one
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however like you mentioned two to do
two like we find in the gar the gar
brings in shabas that came out of the he
saw somebody running with that's
the he asked him where you going it's
not a we going with so he said what do
you mean chabas he say I hear but what
do you have to
two so he said one for one for so to
be one candle however there's a mile of
doing
two that's
two beer but in in
the he he's goes with a whole very
nice to explain that chabas has two
carbas he's always two but just to Beed
in m in a
nutshell why why maybe we should have
three candles for the three sudas or
maybe seven candles for the seven alas
why why the
two say very but the is is now without
Locus NYS we're going into shabas shabas
even so shabas is made out of two parts
it's made out of the dos and the
don'ts thez ofas and
that's the Z SH we li to for and
Sh one one what' you say should light
one have the other one not
left what do you mean the other one one
for not to be left I hear I
hear but that also needs to have a cover
even though there's a l of the Lo that's
also
good speaks about that some have the Min
actually to do two
together so so that's
two that's two and the that's when one
of wife candles go out you tell you
could be if you like with what he
said says the Ramos says that you could
you could you could add on you could add
on the Ramos says you can add
on that could you add on just like AAS
you could add on the emesis these other
places we see you could add on he if you
add
on you lose
the and some argue under not to add on
not to add on because when you add on if
you have two it's ni you add
on some doesn't have any light the more
he put for good good so then if you need
more candles Shas is all around the
house not by the if you need more light
you put more light the the the sorry
the yeah the
says that for that because if you have
let's say two candles sticks and then
you add on more so it's ni then you add
on
more in a CH about it he speaks about it
he
asks
if it's and with this I'm going to
conclude
again there are those that are not the
by only lie too but he by a lot a
lot every child that you have you add
another one which by the way the first
two
is and then you add on it's it's
interesting it's not brought in it's not
brought in the it's not brought
in I'm saying it's not in the the
the
reason
also that would be if we're
being a channel we of how much to be Mar
like says even though you do two you
could be add on more the addition of
more would be this but like says you
could add on more
all