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Hachana L'shabbos - Rabbi Simcha Bunim Berger: Giving Presents on Shabbos when Invited for a Meal
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Okay, good evening everyone. Welcome
back Torah anytime. Tonight she is my
mother's
my father
and a rafu shalma for
Raas Esther and a
Yeshua
shalom Ben
Shalom Then
okay,
you get invited to someone's house for
shabas and you want to bring a matuna.
You're going to a bar mitzvah
and you're there's no weekn night
affair. So you brought a safer for the
bar mitzvah.
You're a RV in a shul and the shul
always gives the baritzvah a set of
Mishnabas.
Are you allowed to give it to him? Are
you allowed to make a canyon on shabas
mata?
Can that be done? And how about if
somebody's giving you a bottle of wine,
but it's such a good bottle you want to
save it for another occasion. Do you
have to use it on Shabas already or once
it's mine I can do what I want
has to be used on Shabas? Take a look at
our introduction page as we always do.
The introduction says
a person's coming for
can he bring
of course where you can carry
a dessert a candy platter etc. or you're
bringing some Nash for the kind and you
know they're not gonna eat it on Shabas
or
And here's the
Shabas
we're about to see is a
and it's to do on Shabas meaning
business is of shabas on chabas you're
not allowed to make business is it davco
is it because as we'll soon see the
because you're going to write it down
and if you're not going to write it down
it's
you don't write it down.
What did they answer? They answer
they answered I'm adding the words to
the Shiloh. They answered the
if they asked if the is
you're not allowed to make a making
giving a matan is also making a should
also beer. So therefore,
okay, that's the sha
let's begin. We start with the ramam on
page two. Looks like this.
We start with the ram on page two.
Writing
is one of the
putting on I think this is like a
mascara or putting on makeup on shabas
is awesome
cuz writing doesn't just have to be on a
paper. It can even be on a person's body
and since you're coloring and it doesn't
just mean writing letters
any type of some changing that
is that
but it says that it's
you cannot borrow or lend
you might come to Right.
You cannot acquire something, sell
something, rent something.
All of the isim of transactional isim
were all user because a person is going
to like when you go into the mit,
right? They wouldn't pay necessary all
the time. You'd buy something the mollet
guy writes it down on his pinkus on his
little ledger. That's the gift. So
purchasing and writing used to go hand
in hand. So Kazal said even when you
made a kenyan without any writing that's
already so any transaction
you shouldn't hire.
What happens if you have a one of one of
the Talmid I think it was Ki who said
imagine you you go to a schul and
there's a group of singers misam and
they did a Friday night and you ask
who's this what are you doing you want
to come to me I'll I'll pay you then
you're being shabas that's also not you
can't just and you know let me let me
rent you for this that doesn't work
either
that we just saw.
If you wanted, let's say you're missing
you, you you forgot to make iron. So,
what's what's your eggs going to be like
if you don't have any iron? So, so you
go to your neighbor and you want to
borrow an onion.
You're allowed to do that. You're
allowed to, but you shouldn't do it.
It shouldn't be transactional. That's
what the Rambam says. Okay. So
to learn that the gather of the is of
buy of selling the gather is an is
what the rabb calls it because of
now does that apply to a matana or not?
If you look, let's go to page two.
The the the
excuse me, the tour in
is talking about
it's
a person forgot. We talked about this.
He forgot to make an air of tapin.
You're not allowed to cook. This was
titman. What do you do? One of the says
in the gor is take your food and be m it
over to your neighbor who made an
let him cook for you. Take a look in the
tour.
If a person didn't make an you can't
cook and others can't cook for you
your
so you have some you have some you have
some fish you have some things that you
want to cook
but you didn't make an
you have a neighbor that made
have and they could be
do me a favor. Can you acquire this from
me and cook it and bake it and then they
make it and you get to eat it? How were
you ming it to them? You made a Kenyan.
How did you do that? You gave it to them
by matuna. You didn't. It doesn't say
you if it's yours
just like you didn't make an air of
timar learns out from that your food is
also user.
If it stays yours, it's no good.
Has to own it. I have to give it to him.
They made an it became their stuff and
therefore it's
says the base
the way I'm going to do it here's the
first place we see that there's an
exception to the rule
is user matana is mut don't
should be aer
but because he has to eat and he doesn't
have what to eat.
We know
we live in a time
who doesn't have
once upon a time in Europe there was one
lulv and for the that's all one
and on the first day
it says
it has to belong to you
can't borrow someone else's lul and
that the second day you could, the
second day you could, but the first day
you can't. It has to be yours. So, how
you going to get it? The terret says he
has to be magnet to you. Mnet to you.
But I thought you can't make any
says says the
I give it to him as a
whole.
It's yours. That's not our subject. Now
our subject is one thing.
It's one thing.
business.
I didn't make an
So, I'm not allowed to cook. So, how am
I going to get some food? The terret is
mitzvah. I need to eat. You can't fast
on yumptiff. That's already that's
already be uh uh that's pain
that the only reason we're letting you
give a mat is because it's a mitzvah.
If you have a bar mitzvah
and you want to give him and the wants
to give him a mat on shabas in front of
the whole seab
excuse me
who says it's mut take a look at the
moan go back to page one
quotes the raam and quotes the morai
it's right over here
Page one on top, four on the bottom.
That's what we just saw right now.
Unless it's a mitzvah. The categories of
mitzvah were that you needed category
was food on because you didn't make an
so your food is also you have to be m to
and yen now is cooking his own food
because yamim made an then it's
no
on the other hand please take a look at
three
who are matter and argued with the
first one's the base mayor on page five.
It's a real short piece over there
mayor.
You see that little piece over there?
This that it say it's also because of
mechano.
I think it's not true
the was
like
no business and since giving a mat is
not business it's
who lived I believe in the 1600s or
1700s on the next page on page six says
It's two different things.
Means we make a transaction.
You give me something, I give you
something. You give me an object
or vice versa. We switch over here.
There's no transaction.
You give a mat. So the according to that
the base may
of I think that's the lumbus here. What
did they ask her? Did they ask her?
Or did they ask for a transaction?
Transaction
you write it down in case I don't get
the go. So this is not a transaction.
That's
so do the on page seven.
even if you don't need it.
Why? It's not part of the
you know I don't have to try to find I'm
going to use it according to this
opinion it's not user it's not user it's
not part of the gaz the
some schos
have in their coat room they have a lost
and found right and they say after 30
days it's heker so there's a hefker
It's shabas afternoon.
It's pouring cats and dogs.
You forgot to bring a shame. One of
these months. You know, you weren't
expecting the rain. And there's a
raincoat there, right?
It's
Are you allowed to take it? Are you
allowed to make a Kenyon or not?
According to the opinion that says that
user raam morai
you might borrow it so to speak taking
it from heer
you're not taking it from anybody but
right you want to you want to own it
right
>> is also the getter is what The question
is what was the is if the is toan it's
still if the iser was to make a
transaction mat what's the difference
between taking from that's exactly what
the iselling too he's saying if mat to
be from IS ALSO
GO take the
use it no problem if that's that's his
opinion
so I have we have
the base.
How did how did how did
take a look at page number the next page
eight. It's right in front of you
shabas.
It's talking about and by the way it's
not our subject for tonight but when you
talk about these type of things selling
alias
how you do that
okay
you're buying and selling
>> it's not a nobody pays
>> when it's not a physical thing nobody
pays
where we d in village green
Okay. But
what do you mean? It's people pay a lot
for it
kind of right. It's thousands of
dollars. And there's
business.
That's what this talks about in
says the
You're not allowed to give a
goes out of his there's a
the mat has that transaction.
It's a transaction.
He's quoting
for
the Mishnab is being
you know who else is Mahmki.
If you look on page 12, if you look on
page 12 on top, which is 15 on the
bottom,
it was written in the conversations I
think that maybe his anle had right with
his with his.
Are you allowed to give a mat that you
can use on chabas?
He was
was go back to page nine.
This is which was like a contress that
was written and it's signed.
I'm always I find it fascinating. It's a
base mayor
who argues with the
When you want to make a like a sud which
is the way like a
you sell the to the r you make a sud
those areim of mech and that's what was
user That's what the brings down.
When you walk into somebody's house,
says,
and you give him a candy platter or you
put a bottle of wine on the table,
you give him a over here. Here, I want
to be m like a little muffin dish. You
put it down on the table. It doesn't
have tin of the same type of transaction
as it does in a regular canyon. So it
doesn't look like a canyon. Why was the
mission of Bur as
so like the when there was
when there were those people you could
the
excuse me mayor
there were those. So
was
Right.
Something which you can do in the week
they can do.
Okay.
So we have a big So what's the tas?
What's the you want? If you're going to
bring over a bottle of wine and they're
going to use it on shabas and it's a
mitzvah to use. So you can kind of maybe
it's there's a mitzvah.
But what about if you want to give a bar
mitzvah like the RV in the sh and he
gives
this bar mitzvah he gives I remember
four years old giz in KBA used to always
give every who became mitzvah he gave
them a set of mishnabas
on that day yeah the means you need it
now yeah what is it because of mitzvah
afterwards
So listen to what you do. There are
three
that's over here on page 13. The ya
the is
because there's such a tumult amongst
the
not so simple.
Even though there are
you want to give him
you can activate
the
before shabas.
You go to one of your kids or over bar
mitzvah and you say here we're going to
be bringing this to the to the family.
I'm going to give this to the mitzvah be
it now for him. It's a win-win.
You could be
know that he'll want it so he could be
as long as it wasn't 100%. That's number
one. And what do you do if you forgot to
do that? If you forgot to be magnet to
someone,
take a look at Yehuda Yala. This Rab
Assad was born in 1790 in Hungary. He
wrote like this
should have in mind should have in zen
not to be coed on Shabas.
It stays here like a you wanted to give
it to me as a mat.
I don't want to be as a mat. You can't
force me to be. So therefore the mat
wasn't so I'll watch it. I'll keep it
there as a
and then after
this way number two on this
has a tiny he's not so how so
>> yes
>> the next one it says don't give
>> says you can't give very good don't give
a mashkin
says there's a concept of also called
ammono. If you give someone something
and then afterwards he doesn't like your
person would give you made a deal we had
a handshake we're going to do something
even though we didn't make a kenyan if
you back out it's not so if you already
gave it to him and now you can't go to
take it back it's like a transaction
I have an for you I'm not going to read
the whole thing because I want to do the
at the end also
if you take a look on page 15 okay
There's a there's a big part that's
that's got grade off
the person giving the
I want to have the right to have which
means there should be no muser and
therefore there's no activation
whatsoever. That's
so
>> not gonna use it on Shabas like on
Shabas.
>> He brought it already. We're talking
about after the fact. He already brought
it.
He brought the matona.
>> So if it's if it's a bottle of wine, if
it's a candy, so then use it on Shabas
and you have a mitzvah, then you're
doing then it's okay.
So then it's okay. If it's something
that's not a mitzvah, right? So then
let's go back to the case we had. It's
raining shabas afternoon. You're in shul
and in the heer pile you have a
raincoat.
It's heer. Can I make the canyon? You're
not according to some opinions. No,
you're not allowed to even though it's
not transactional.
You do it. You put it on.
I'm not being kind. It's anyway he I'm
not making a kenyan. No one's telling me
I can't wear it. You're going to ask me
maybe it was mah because nobody belong
it didn't belong to anybody. So maybe it
has a d of mah may because it's a maybe
it's not that's a good sha. I don't
think it's a mukah problem but I have to
be if that shouldn't be a muk maybe
because it's a kay anyway. So it doesn't
have a
because since it was already from before
shabas but
it's not it's not because it's a in any
case but what's the
is not to have in zin not to have in
mind to be this way the person and then
you can have in mind to have the that's
so
should you give a ma to someone on
shabas is we saw in the no because there
are many
and
that way
based on the other
mission what do you have to put your
head into a case of
number one is before the person you want
to give them
You want to give him a present
before buy you didn't have that in mind
before Shabas bring it over. You want to
bring it over to the house cuz you're
going to forget. You tell them I'm
leaving this here. It's not yours. It's
not yours. I don't even want you to be a
shimemer. I'm just leaving it here.
That's all. Don't have to be it. I don't
have to give it to you. If I change my
mind, I'm allowed to change my mind.
Like says, if you speak that out, then
you're good to go. If it's something
which is
we said for example
there has to be on the first day
everybody holds that that's surely no
problem if it's something which you
didn't make an you don't have any food
you have to be everybody holds it
now now I just want to finish off with
the
It's brought down in the middle over
here
that the number of mitzvah I say
in the Tyra and the mitzvah aim of a
person is both the same
and the is plain and when a person does
a mitzvah he's being
that specific a in a person's body as it
says over here a person who puts on
fillain you on your hand so you have a
hand of
and a hand of gashmas
when a mench will come back to to will
be have a have a
we have mitzvah say which if every
single mitzvah is with every mitzvah you
do or you learned about because you
can't do every mitzvah
you put
there are some aarim every a is
important there are some aarim
loyal a person loses a finger
loses a hand, you can still live. There
are some mitzvah
that very important.
If you don't have it, it's your life
doesn't depend on it.
Hearts, you can't live without a heart.
A cup, you can't live without a cup.
There are some which they call in the
belt mega mitzvah.
These mitzvah is the hearts of
he says on the top
a person who keeps shabas the way he's
supposed to
says
What's
up?
You know what is
to the world. They're the
rabbi start. The worst is the shish.
They're the shish of Desar in the world.
is
that means he denies the
how is that possible come to America you
see all the people outside how they live
their life
the person can how is it possible that's
what happens that's what happens
what's the status
Right.
Why the terret say is shabas is not just
an a of a person. Shabas is one of the
main aim. It's a mitzvah that a person
is being made that the aish created the
world. In the same time that he's being
foolish and being
but when you keep shabas the way you're
supposed to you're plugged in in such a
way that the
of your goof is in the right place.
That's the that shabas we learn every
single week kadusha shabas. The kadusha
shabas is not about what you can't do as
we've said in the past. It's how to
enhance the shabas and make it gishmak
in what you could do. You want to bring
a mat. You want to enhance somebody's
shabas.
There are ways of doing it. There's the
right way and there's the wrong way.
When you learn the of shabas and you
understand how to do it, then you know
exactly be the person that's supposed to
do it.
as you saw.