Get ready for Shabbos Shiur with Rabbi Berger - Questions about making early Shabbos and eating

Father, >> good evening rabbi isai. Another week of kadusha shabas. For those of you joining us the first time, the shim have been put together by the mas and the shurim are here to advance kadushas shabas. When a person keeps shabas and a person wants to have a t in shabas kesh wants to have a good taste about shabas. The only way to have a good taste in shabas is to know the t the reason for why we do things to go through and do things everybody chabas we keep shabas but when a person does something and he doesn't know why he's doing it what does it look like chulant with no But if a person puts in some salt and some pepper and some honey and some and a person then has such a gishmak and has a reason and understands why we do what we do. It gives a tam it gives a reason and makes shabas actually taste good. Tonight's subject is a person who's macabul shabus early. A person given a cab shabas early and makes kdish while it's still daylight and eats auda while it's still daylight. Are they ya the Indian of gimlabas? says the den of Shabas which a person is Shabas early and gives Shabas Friday a den of Shabases does that transer does that transform Friday into le shabas if there's a din of sudas le shabas that you have to eat on Friday night you have to eat the le shabas and you're eating oni which became shabas were a person that's the question and if you do have to be into the evening mameish what is it that a person has to eat at that time could a person have to eat you have to make sure that if you started the suda before Shabas, meaning you started on Shabas, but you started on Friday being Shabas early that you have to now eat a kazas afteraz of is it enough to have cake? Can a person have fruits or stomach dessert and then consider that as the shabas's or just like we say a person has to have he has to have so we begin with the source of eating audabas on Arab shabas the gmorrah begins and it's point number one this is the 10th parakim And if you have your handout on page number, there should be page number one. It says 198 because that's part of the A person shouldn't eat until it becomes nighttime. points out that the in the Mishna is unique when it talks about a person being staying hungry on Arab Shabas where it's a mitzvah I know some people like to that's a whole another suga to eat too much An air of shabas that when a person comes to shabas kesh lost his appetite is certainly way too much. Person has to be careful that when he comes into Shabas, a person should come into Shabas when a person is hungry to eat state in that regarding Shabas a person should be hungry but it doesn't mention it doesn't mention until the evening and wants to understand Why by does it say that a person and doesn't have that and the is as follows [Music] by a person has a mitzvah to eat matzah at night. You're not allowed to eat matzah before nighttime. It's meant to eat at night says I want to pay attention with you to the words. A person can eat. Shabas, a person can dab an air of shabas. this the davening of Shabas the and he makes and the of is [Music] he can eat shabas by day. It's pretty clear from that he's allowed to be he can start the shabas during the day. If you turn to the next page please and you see the rush inim the rush over here in the 10th per mameish the same place that tyus is quotes the same kasha but there's a slight nuance a very slight difference look how the rush says the rush says in letter B why does it use the l Like it says it by even though you can start Shabas during the weekday and you can eat before it becomes dark. You cannot do that by pes. What's the difference between the way the rush says the and says the to the normal eye it doesn't sound like there's any difference. It doesn't look like there's any difference. if you're and I'd like to say growing up in learning in the mirror they always made sure to be medactic exactly how it says the the is slightly different uses the lion you can eat shabas the kdish is allows that in the those words. It doesn't say in the it says you made we know that you can't eat until you make kdish. Just because you make kdish doesn't mean that you're eating audabas in the morning. When a person dins and he finishes and then herring is that shabas absolutely not. What is it? It's eating something that a person shabas you can't fast on shabas. a person it's it's an shabas that a person is being shabas and it's not audish do the kdish was the kdish allowed that you should be able to eat but the kdish didn't create aud because a person wasn't through the kdes it should be very clear that kdish has two roles so to speak with one first of all kesh allows us to eat a and if a person chooses to be the so then not only is he eating he's eating audabas as we see on shabas in the morning after davening you can make kdesh and you can eat but it doesn't mean you're eating suda shabas the lushion of the rush that says a person can make kdish and can therefore do what the it says he's eating. If you look at the in the rush who had the same he can eat. This is to the that the and the quoting the moral in our next page tells us. Let's go to page number three in this handout. It's still in the pes where these are written here. We're quoting from the he says The Cavonosum. Three lines from the top. The Cavonosum. [Music] The beginning of aud by night. The finishing off of the suda has to be at night state in the back state in the back that you're allowed to and the rush said that when a person is shabas early and he starts his says says the the intention of isang which means only to start finishing. You have to finish at nighttime [Music] has to be at night. The comes from the fact that it says it says three times said you should eat. [Music] You're not unless you eat in the evening. And if you're going to stop eating before it became, wow, what a lotion. [Music] It's not like [Music] you want to add. You want to add kadusha from a weekday. You want to make a yishi a Friday holy. There's an ingenion of kadusha shabas. You could do it. You want to turn night into day. You want to turn day into night. Only can do that. when you're shabas it's Friday that has kadusha shabas and since says the bak is supposed to be le shabas how do I know it's supposed to be le shabas because the over there on shabas says that how many meals are you supposed to eat is between and say three says Four because it says three times says three times by day but one at night and the rabbon say no the one goes at night know that everybody holds that you have to have law means to say that you have to eat. So if so says the what does it help that you were early that so you made into you made into shabas you were from the kadush of shabas onto the but you didn't make it into night time. It's day that now has shabas. So if it's day that has shabas if it's then the is supposed to be then how are you [Music] is making shabas. It has to be at night. And he's right says the regarding the su that also has status to even start at night time shabas you can start by day I have over here it's not quoted in the pamphlet but I have the maral the maral says and this is his brings down what it says in the rashbam that you can Eat before midnight time because you're how can he go ahead and eat at the daytime? The moral and the bach are learning that the mitzvah of shabas shabas is not just to eat three on shabas but rather it's a mitzvah to eat dinner breakfast and then or or or lunch and then another dinner on shabas meaning like this and Here we'll soon see this as well inside if the gather of shabas is eat three and shabas shabas should be and then the decided that when should it be by night by day and then later on in the afternoon one could argue if it's a dinner and shabas so maybe because I at it already shabas. So then already I'm eating sud shabas. If a person understands that the of is in three when but the is of so somebody can argue and say it's not a dinner at night. We'll soon see that hold that as long as you're eating shabas on the and the way we see in the Bisho it's not just a D of three of Shabas it's a which means there's an Indian of eating of a a night meal what we call here in America dinner. You have to have an evening. So those health perhaps shabas, but shabas is still during the day. You're missing the you're missing the nighttime suda. That's what the moral screams. You have to have not just three sudas of shabas. You have to have three specifically a dinner, a a lunch and other dinners so to speak. So you're not that is so the understood the way he g that even and even the rush that allowed us to eat shabas in when you're tabas early only allowed us to start the sudo but you have to make sure to finish in the evening as I in comes along the next page comes along the in Shabas and he writes and you could see where it's um the gray area that is on the side he brings down Here he focus on what it is that you have to eat. That's what they say. And now comes a big line from the The had the plates he had the shoulders to say I read differently that only meant you could start says the I understand differently there's a to eat The entire according to the says if my opinion says the means you can eat it and finish it. And you know why the says bashame the says bashame the moral z if a person shabus on on Friday and says the lilord by making you made it night time. So as a dinner you just have let's ask ourselves a question to the to the in two weeks not this shabas but in a week from this shabas it's going to be shabases [Music] the who's going to make early shabas is going to go home and going to eat and then they're going to bench and they're going to have to say are they going to say what do you say why they already said so so it won't be the first time they say they already said so so you already made it night time the fact that the fact that you said The fact that you said and now you say even if you're benching during the day but it's not the say it's after already it's after that not it's after it's after so therefore it's after a time where according to some it's already considered here in shiners we could at 9:30 at mention was 7:00 in the afternoon. Why? because they're ready to have beforehand and they're ready to have a ready now because once you come to that's already the end of the time and then you can but you have to have a certain consistency then you're this is the time of the so in as much as the mar and the brings down that you're missing the component of lil. So therefore, even though you're shabas early or it has to be a it is a night meal. It's a night meal because thanks to the fact like he says you're after he next page he says make an essence. you can eat since he was he doesn't say the of the fact that it's he says he stresses shabas not like the why is he only stressing shabas like we mentioned earlier because it's what is the of the are the gim of shabas just kazal said have them at this time or are they specifically a sud of shabas either way like the you can learn it's already leav and if you of why because shabas One of the quotes of the mugan was from the trumasades. Here we have the next quote is the trumasadeshan. Let's see it inside. Fascinating from the trumasades. What again where it's the gray area over here in your handout. I heard in yeshiva They used to dive in early. They dive in so early. all of the nice Jews. They would go for maybe this was in one of those northern cities like in Manchester or up in where it would become Shabas at 10 11:00 at night. It wouldn't become dark. It wouldn't become dark until way like now 10:30 at night is when the isb for them when it comes to shas and tishab you're fasting you don't finish till copenhagen in Denmark in these places it doesn't become night until 11:00 at night so he says that they write then the um with the ro of mab shabas gain early they ate suda shabas and after they would get home still while they liked while the sun while there was still sunshine outside means that you see that they were finished they finished the suda already. They already had finished while it was still. So you see this is what the said that there was a that those when it was necessary by day like the quoted you have the which the quotes the person ate and didn't see three stars. [Music] If you finished early, you have to take you have to take after She is a Muslim. How can you go ahead and be if you ate it during the daytime? This echoes the words of the in the that as long as it's not nighttime. And if you look at the next page, it brings it as you have to go and eat afterwards. Right? So what should we do? If you look, we'll skip ahead for a minute and go to the Mishna Bura on this second to the last page on the safer [Music] letter. When a person comes down says the People all love Shabas. Once a person was shabas, it's already considered chabasian because he made kesh and as we said earlier kesh helps twofold. is so you already made meaning even if you don't make but the restriction of eating has been lifted. So, [Music] so therefore a person according to one should already make and already start his suda and if he need be he can even finish the iso Let's be clear. The B and the had no problem with a person starting aud. [Music] And what's the reason you have to be meaning this is a reason that and this is brought down is shabas. One of the reasons that the it's brought down is that Shabas adding to Shabas is adding to Shabas but it's not Shabas itself that's the not because of Shabas but even Shabas failed. So but according says so therefore according to that if a person is starting the which is but it's like eating kesh according to this opinion meaning to say you're eating and you're allowed to eat the bur It is the correct thing to be to make sure that you should eat a lip after. Now does that mean that a person has to eat bread? If you go back one page, the safer brings down We said for [Music] if the Indian is to make sure that a person ate aud Interesting. He is that any he should be in the truth is that cake pass when a person's on cake according to many is you have to wash. The only reason we don't wash on cake is because we end up eating it on the fly. We're not eating as a of the but when a person eats it as a of audi and this is if a person takas and a person the kinder he doesn't want to wait they made kesh you know we want to eat already you can eat if you have dessert cake which is a of your since it's a of your suda. So it has a suda. So you don't dk have to have a you don't have to dava have a kaz of in order to make sure that your shabas was on that you had your at night time because you had bread because you had that this is a of the and you're eating this and you're having the dessert could be an apple strudel it could be a Could be the cookies. It could be whatever you want if you want whatever it is. And you eat the as of what comes out is that although there are opinions as we saw the there's others that if a person ate shabas during the daytime like we saw one opinion of the moed early shabas Some opinion says it's already considered. Other opinions say that it's already the shabas because it has shabas. It's not all the opinions in order to be all opinions that after this which anyway a person would have to say because a person early he'd have to say now over again have a piece of cake with have make Sure that according to those the he should be shabas as a as a supper as a dinner. This way you be alash.