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Rabbi Sonnenschein
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It's important to important to
understand that
um in the in the
in the sulam in the in the ladder of
growth of the Can you hear me, Shaya?
Ellie, you can hear me?
I can't hear myself. That's why I'm
in the What?
We can't do that to the island.
It's supposed to become 90° today.
90°.
I actually can't wait. Um
But
in the sulam in the ladder of growth of
the Mesillas Yesharim
so the kimat the final one
before kedusha, the final one is anavah.
Anavah yirah state.
And anavah, I think most people look at
as a as it's a value to be humble.
But we don't look at humility
as a necessary Excuse me. A necessary
step in the ladder of growth of a
person.
You know, we like we praise someone.
Yeah, he's humble. This person is
humble. Well, some people are more
humble. Some people are less humble, but
apparently when you look at the Mesillas
Yesharim, which is something to think
about that
this madrega of humility
it's not like, oh, yeah, like telling
the truth. Is telling the truth a value?
Yes. Is it one of the madrega in
Mesillas Yesharim?
No. Because it certainly it is in the
sense that when the Mesillas Yesharim
talks about doing things right, one of
those things would be telling the truth.
He does talk in several places about
honesty.
But that's not one of the steps. It's
one of the aspects of one of the steps.
You know what I mean?
Um
Sensitivity. Would you say that
sensitivity is an important value?
I think anyone would say uh rachmanus
for sure is an important value. Is it
one of the madregas of the Mesillas
Yesharim? No.
Is it in there? Of course it's in there.
Cuz when a person grows in every way,
they grow in that way also.
But humility is one of the steps. It's a
pretty amazing thing. It's one of the
steps in the Mesillas Yesharim.
And what that tells me is
that a person's ego
Excuse blue. What that tells me is that
I can't say I wasn't doubting only
doubting.
What that tells me is that a person's
ego is
an ego. It gets in the way of a person's
ability to grow.
And when all a person sees is
themselves,
it's not just like a side issue. Agav,
you have an issue. You're stuck.
Humility is the ability that you see the
world not from your vantage point. Not
from how does this affect me? What does
this have to do with me? What's going to
be with me?
You know, there's a certain humility is
a certain sense of that I'm here for
something greater.
It's an honor to serve.
I'm a I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm just My whole
pride is that I'm part of Hashem's
world.
And you find that difference, the way
people look at things. It's a It's It's
It's interesting because it's a natural
thing. A baby is born about gaiva. Do
you know that?
We don't look at it as gaiva.
But a baby is is is is is born of
Algaiva.
What do I mean by that?
What I mean is that when a baby is born,
the most important thing in the baby's
life is himself.
More than his mother.
Okay?
A 1-year-old,
the most important thing in his life is
his own physical pleasure.
Okay?
He'll throw you off a building for a
lollipop.
Okay? He doesn't care.
And that's the way I got to created a
person because a person's sense of self,
that's the first thing that a person's
aware of.
Their needs, themselves.
As a person grows,
part of the expectation of life is that
a person starts to be able to see
outside of themselves.
A person starts to be able to imagine
outside of themselves.
Sometimes even for us it's not so easy.
I have a a plan
to go with my family to Eretz Yisrael
for 3 weeks this summer.
Exciting?
What?
I'll see you there.
And um
And and I I did it last summer
and it was a very very very important
part of my year because it was an
ability for me to kind of regroup in
myself.
I'm very very very very busy and worn
out during the year and it was an
opportunity my wife did not allow me to
um
to do any shiurim at all. I gave zero
shiurim, zero. Right?
Zero shiurim, okay? People that were
very close to me, did you even see me
once there? You met me a few times, no?
You were there, right?
The people closest to me did not even
see me in Eretz Yisrael. I literally was
hiding. Okay? Sometimes there were
people I knew in sh- shuls I went into.
They would come over, shalom aleichem,
good to see you. Oh, maybe we could meet
to schmooze. Sorry, not available.
Okay?
What?
It's going to be like that this summer,
too.
And it w- and it was crazy for me.
Because when I got to Eretz Yisrael for
about
for about 2 days,
I didn't know what to do with myself.
I was losing my mind cuz I'm so used to
always having so many things to do that
just not having something to do was was
jarring.
But after a while, it became a very very
very
important part of my summer, and it gave
me the energy to start the year here
properly.
So it's your benefit.
Why am I bringing this up?
Because I don't know if you know that
there's a war going on right now.
Thankfully, we're in the middle of a
cease-fire.
My two children are heading to Eretz
Yisrael on Sunday morning
at the crack of dawn.
And um
And we hope this we hope the cease-fire
holds, right?
I have this issue
that when I hear war broke out,
I think about oh no, I'm not going to be
able to go to Israel this summer.
And it bothers me.
Because I should be thinking about tens
of thousands of people who are in the
line of fire.
Of course I do think about that.
But I'm just it's almost an instinctive
childish part of me that what comes up
for me instantly is oh no, what's going
to happen to my Israel plans?
I think I don't think I'm the only one
in the world like that.
But
I think that our goal is to become big
enough people
that oh no, what's going to be with me
is not the first thing.
You hear that someone was nifter.
And there's a levaya.
The first thing has to be that person.
The second thing is can I make it to the
levaya? You know what I mean?
But like where I fit in vis-a-vis
something going on,
that's something that's needs to be
worked on.
I find
in my journeys
that the people that have the healthiest
childhoods
have the easiest time making it not
about them.
People that have healthy childhoods that
they were taken care of and they were
the center of attention and they got the
love and the and the and the safety.
They felt safe and taken care of
and it's easier for them to grow to a
point that they're not always worrying
about themselves.
Others who went through difficulties
when they were young like myself,
there's almost this protectiveness
that you're always worrying about me
because you kind of had to fend for
yourself for so many years.
But this is a goal. It's not just a side
nyla that we're learning about. The
ability to be humble. Do you see the
parallel between my eretz Israel example
and humility? I know it's not about,
"Hey, I'm great."
But it is in a certain sense of humility
not to make it everything about me.
That's a humility, it's a more sensitive
version of humility. That it's not
always about me.
I have seen people change the schedules
of an entire Yeshiva to convenience
themselves.
Is something guy ever about that? No, do
you agree?
Even if they're powerful enough to do
it, but why are they the guy there?
Why is it about them?
That should not be the thought process.
The thought process is my responsibility
to the t-bird.
My responsibility to our sham.
My responsibility to my mishpacha.
And this gets into the core even in a
marriage. We've talked about this many
times. But when a person gets married,
present company included,
when a person gets married,
a a selfish person, a person who's um
who hasn't dealt properly with their
ego,
even in their own marriage, and you see
this all the time,
they come first. It's about me. My wife
is second, I'm first.
I'm thinking about me.
That's a very very important thing, and
it's a little bit of a of a And I'm not
telling you, um this is not marriage
advice. It's also marriage advice. But
it's not marriage advice. This is
is my ego in the way of everything? Is
it all always about me?
You know, you can have like a wife, for
example, in enormous pain. I've seen
this. She's in enormous pain.
She's uh maybe she's in labor.
Okay?
Men can't imagine that kind of pain.
Okay?
She starts berating her husband.
I'm not saying she should do that, but
that's what she did. Okay?
The husband was like, "I'm not going to
be able to take you to the hospital if
you're going to talk to me like that."
You know?
About him. It's not about you.
The ability to break others first. The
ability to think about others first. The
ability to put myself second. To put
myself aside. Not to make the center of
my universe
myself.
One of the things that we do is
interesting. One of the things that we
do
when we're treating addiction
is that we teach the person who's
struggling with addiction
to be to do acts of service. It's one of
the 12 steps. To do acts of service.
To serve. To give. To share.
It's not just because we think it's a
source if you do chesed that you won't
uh succumb to the addiction. That's not
what it is.
It's that an addict
is constantly trying to feed himself.
There's a black hole inside of himself.
And he's constantly trying to make
himself feel comfortable. Himself feel
good.
Not because he's a bad person, but
because he's in pain.
It's constant. But if we could change
the focus and it's not about me.
It's about you.
It's about giving. It's about sharing.
It's about producing. It's about
serving.
It's not just that he's helping the
people around him. It changes his brain.
And his brain becomes less about
self-satisfying
and more about serving.
And that becomes healthy for him and
happier for him.
It's an incredible thing.
And you find this, the selfish people
who can't look past their ego
are not the happy people in this world.
They spend their whole life serving
themselves
and they're the least happy. You would
think if someone spends Someone's life
mission is to make themselves happy,
they'd probably be pretty happy. But
it's not true because we're not
programmed that way.
If my life mission is to make myself
happy, it's almost a guarantee to not be
happy.
If your life's mission is to make
someone else happy,
that's when you start to feel happiness.
Happiness is not something you get, it's
something that happens when you give.
It's an important thing.
My brother always makes fun of the guy
who's having a conversation
and he says, "Okay, okay, okay.
Enough about me.
Let's talk about you. What do you think
of me?"
But it's not a joke. There are people
like that. Everything Every conversation
somehow has to turn back and be about
them.
Somehow.
You say,
um
Let's say I'm I'm dating. I'm getting
engaged soon.
When you tell that to a friend, you want
the friend to say, "That's amazing." You
don't want the friend to say, "I'm also
dating."
It's not a sensitivity.
You You know what I mean? You don't want
the conversation You know the what I'm
talking about? That sometimes you speak
to people, somehow the conversation ends
up in the end being about them.
Somehow Somehow, however it is, somehow
it ends up being about them.
I've seen chasanim and aveilim
have to worry about someone else's
attendance at their wedding or at a
funeral.
You know what I mean? Because there are
people that will even take someone
else's simcha or someone else's sorrow
and make it about them.
A classic example of the people that are
Get ready for this. A classic example of
the people
that get insulted about when you chose
to tell them that your wife is
expecting.
Like here you are dealing with this
major, major, major moment.
I just want to tell you besha'a tovah
and muzal tov, my wife is expecting.
Now you tell me?
This wasn't about you. I was giving you
news.
This whole story is not about when I
tell you. It's my news.
Get over yourself.
But people have a hard time getting over
themselves.
And we have to have compassion for those
people, but we have to take the mussar
out of ourselves.
It's not about us.
It's about the ability to give and to
share. That's anavah.
So anavah is certainly not thinking too
highly of ourselves, but it has a very
subtle and practical application in
terms of who is the center of my world.
Are the people in my life the center of
my world or is it all about me?
A rebbe walks into a shiur room.
A teacher walks into a classroom.
What's the bottom bottom line?
Is the bottom line
Are my talmidim closer to Hashem today
than they were yesterday?
Are they more knowledgeable in Torah
today than they were yesterday?
Or is the bottom line, are my talmidim
more impressed with me today than they
were yesterday?
Now, nobody thinks explicitly that way.
But it's a mindset.
And the ability
>> [clears throat]
>> for someone who's teaching or giving
over
to be versatile in a classroom, to be
able to deal with things as they come
up,
is to the extent that they can move
their ego out of the room
and be able to deal with people
instead of this big thing called their
ego.
I was telling someone yesterday
about some incidents that have happened
to me over the years of giving shiurim.
And
sometimes it can be challenging. Like
there was a
There was a when I came here the first
year.
So, right away became COVID.
So, we were doing like
partial Zoom, partial in person. It was
like a hybrid thing. Some people were in
person, some people were on Zoom.
Okay?
So, those days when I gave shiur,
nowadays, so in a 40-45 minute shiur,
I'll schmooze for 5 minutes, sometimes
for 10 minutes,
just to get the guys into it or to
Whatever, because cuz I love the guys,
so I schmooze with them.
Those days I would schmooze for 20-25
minutes.
The reason was, remember Zoom? How old
were you for Zoom?
What grade? 9th grade?
Nightmare, no?
You know?
So,
nobody was listening, nobody was there.
I mean, you know the guys here, like I
would be watching the screen and
watching people's dogs walk over their
desks and like
it was just like
And I'm I have guys in the classroom
and I have guys on the screen.
It was very difficult.
So my derech was to schmooze and to
connect and to call guys out by name
and then to try to teach some Torah.
And one time I'm in the middle of this
whole thing, this hybrid Zoom
and the guy's like
Rebbi, I think this is bittul Torah how
much you're schmoozing.
Get out. He was on the screen. Turn off.
I felt my heart beating.
What do you do?
You're the Rebbi, what do you do?
I think I did something like just say
how impressed I am that this guy is so
worried about bittul Torah.
I did tell him afterwards
that if he comes to my shiur, I'm the
posek on the bittul Torah.
You know, I did say that.
But at least at the time I kept my cool.
What?
No.
I have gotten upset in shiur probably
two or three times in the last five
years.
Has happened, but very weird. It's very
weird. You could try to get me upset if
you want.
Try, see what happens.
What?
You're not going to feel good.
You succeed. Also, I'm a nice guy.
When I get sharp
watch out.
Um
one time I was giving a ladies shiur.
I was talking about something. Middle of
the shiur, one of the ladies like, "Rav,
I think that's lashon hara.
Um
You have to be careful when you giving a
class to be ready to step aside from
your ego, you know? Be able to be
honest.
It was very tough. That was very, very
tough because I was in the middle of
something.
I said I was I I spoke very softly but I
said um
I said part of going to a shear is
trusting the rav to pass judgment on
what's lashon hara and what's not.
Do you agree?
But you know, you get challenged
sometimes, you know?
You get challenged.
But it's more than that, you know? In
our shear, right? So, guys have a big
eight czars because they have phones on
them.
So, you know that you know that you know
that babies think when they cover their
eyes, nobody can see them? You know that
babies think that?
You know that, right?
What?
Okay.
Yeah, exactly.
So, that's what they feel that's what
they And babies really think that. A
baby sometimes babies hide, they just go
like this.
They don't have, okay?
Um it's it's part of the stage of growth
of a human being to realize that when
your eyes are closed, the world still
exists even though you can't see it.
That's why a kid will go crazy when a
parent walks out of the room because
they think the parent's gone. Okay, the
idea that something exists that I can't
see.
But sometimes guys in our shear also
think that if if they don't see me, I
don't see them.
So, a guy will hide behind another thing
like that, something like that. I watch
it happen all the time.
The guys are on their phones or talking
to each other.
And it's hard for me. Sometimes it's
just distracting.
But sometimes it triggers my ego like
What do you What do you What do you You
don't see me? I'm right here.
I'm a human being. I'm here. I'm talking
to you.
It takes strength. I mean it seriously.
It takes strength.
Yeah, but let's not confuse ego with
kavod haTorah, okay?
When I'm feeling upset about it, a lot
of times it's because I'm like
What's the matter with you?
It's worse to me than when someone falls
asleep.
Someone falls asleep like, you know,
un-psycho- shaina, what are you going to
do, you know? But when when a person
when a person
is is doing is on the phone
taking notes, you know.
So
I have to work on myself.
Sometimes I say something or indicate
something or pick up my hand or pause
for a second. I have to work on myself.
I mean it seriously to make sure I'm
doing that for the right reason.
Because the defense of my ego is not the
right reason. Even if you're right that
maybe it's kavod haTorah, but
I have to do it for the right reason.
So having a certain decorum is
important. Teaching a certain level of
derech eretz is important.
It depends
I think that depends. But with a rebbe
in the front of a classroom, it's much
more easy to call for it to for it to
touch that.
You know, like that like part of you
that's not necessarily the healthiest
part.
Okay?
I hear what you're saying, but but still
you know, and certainly because I think
that you'll agree that there's not one
guy in in a shul room that's on his
phone or talking to another guy that's
intention is to disrespect the rebbe.
Any rebbe that thinks that is missing
the boat.
Maybe he's not thinking straight. The
most that I would say is the guy's not
thinking.
But I you think a guy sitting in this
room saying, "I think I want to
disrespect you every day."