Gehinom Revealed: Is It Really What You Think? (Afterlife #17)

is so far away. Oh, >> anyways. >> That's our introductory. >> You all right? >> We're rolling. >> Okay. Sed. Anyways, so here we go. The we mentioned that there are four different types. I want to give a recap of a tiny bit. Just a two-minute recap. We mentioned that there were four different types of people that get different. If you remember what we spoke about, we said there are people who are bonim which could be the majority of us. That's the majority of us that people go to ganam. You get burnt a little bit, stoked up a little bit here and there and then you go to you go to the next world. That's one type. We mentioned there are people who are who are that they might even walk through Gan. We mentioned they said something like that they walk in but they don't stoke the fires. It stays all nice and and cool and relaxed and you can sit there comfortable walk through until you get to a it's obviously not uncomfortable. So you warm your hands a little bit. Exactly. on your way on your way you can just [laughter] he goes through a few minimal people are I don't know if you have to be moshenu to reach this level but you have to be from the big people that go straight to without any interruptions without any ganam in the middle without any type of thing like that and we did mention that there's a number of people according to the paleoa it's a lot of people are doing this but not everybody that are that they made a lot of they did a lot of and therefore they have to be purified and before even going to gem because going to gamm itself is a it's a benefit because through gueam you get purified and then you get to go so some people have to go to kafaka they go to something or you have gilgulim which we did not speak about yet we're going to speak about that separately or besides gilgulim there's an idea of kafella kafaka we spoke about is literally being flung from one end of the world to the next they play the two angels play pitch with you they pitch you from one end to the other person gets thrown from one end. We spoke about a little bit the pain is over 33% more than ganim. It's an incredibly painful experience. We quoted from the go and I don't want to go through it all again but basically we said it was not a comfortable thing. It's even worse than ganam. People in kafakella are trying to run for geanum. They try to slip themselves into ganam in order to get in there and all the people in geanum make sure they kick him out and say no way. There's no room for you and everybody stay where you need to be because you don't deserve to be here. Okay. Basically that's what we spoke about. Like I said even worse sometimes is gilgulim but that we're going to speak about on a separate basis. Those are the different things. Then we also spoke about the Ramban who asks what kind of pain are we referring to over here? It's a strange little pain over here because the body is in the ground. So if the body's in the ground where can the physical body get hurt in Ganam. So obviously he spoke about a spiritual aspect. We've already spoke about the nephesh and the we're made up of five different and we spoke about the idea of maybe a them is the image of a person. There's a certain mirror image that a person has up in shim. We mentioned that it applies in many places. Those are usually the ghosts that you see in this world. The you might be able to see has to do with his everybody has an image of himself. That's what a person sees when he goes up to shim. his relatives and he's able to recognize them because there's a certain salm and that sal is a certain connecting device the ru the ru that connects between the nef and the for spoke about I'm not I'm not getting into I'm just giving a quick recap here so I don't want to get into it and that is what the pain that a person goes through that is being experienced through a metaphysical fire a metaphysical being with a metaphysical fire the fire is not a literal fire it's a fire of gam which I do want to explain today we're going to explain how works but basically it's a fire to a part of your body and that's what the person uh the person ends up uh going going through. Okay, we also mentioned there are seven different names to ganam. There's seven different names to ganam that all have to do with a lack of something which again is going to connect to what we're speaking about today. is the depths. Is destruction the borit usually obviously have to do things with death things like that. The Ramban as the words ganam which we spoke at if you remember gay benhim we mentioned gay benhim that's we spoke about last time is a place by a guy who owned benhim it's somewhere near which I'm going to speak about also today about it was a gay is an open uh open courtyard. Okay. And that's where gehennam lies. No coincidence. It starts with the word gay. But anyways, that uh that that's that's the idea. People will pick that up. But anyways, that's the uh that's the idea of ganim of gay benm and that's where it comes from. We mentioned about that's where they used to sacrifice their children to certain gods, the mole, etc. And that's where this name this name came from. Okay. Now a couple quick points before we describe in detail what Ganam looks like. First of all, when was ganam? Just based on what we're saying now. When was create ganam created? When was this creation created? You know, we know when everything was created on the seven days of brash. It's all written in the Torah. You open up for we all know we all know when it was created. But the answer is an interesting one. The says in it says there's two different types of fires which like I said is connecting to what we're speaking about until now is there's two different types of fires. There's the esh of that is the words of the Yeah. There's a of this world which of course who knows the fire that we're familiar with which is also very dak very subtle right fire is a very subtle thing it's it's something that you can't even touch not that you can't touch cuz it's hot but it's not something physical it's something metaphysical it's something that you can it's not something real again I'm going to discuss this later our light was created on Shabbat but the oran which like we said from the is a fire was created on the second day of creation. Now we have a you saw know the is everything that was created earlier in brait in the creation is more more spiritual. That's why the organ the highest thing that we have is the or which was created on the first day. We know that's not the light that we have. That's the organ. That's a only the sun and the moon were only created on the fourth days. Those are physical objects. That was on the fourth day. The super metaphysical light that was created of the ora right was created on the first day because that light was a is the light of the light we're going to see in the time of mashia that's why it was created on the first day >> what was the source that >> what was the source of that light was definitely not the sun they say some people say I remember in some people want to say that that that's the question mash do you go after do you go after the light or do you go after the sun because bes mash you don't have a sun But you still have light. So that time period is how much during that time period when the sun goes behind the mountains and you don't see it anymore. So there's room to say oh the day is over but there's still light. So there's room to say oh there's still day. So the question is do you go after the light or do you go after the sun? That's the question. That's one of the ways that there idea of mash which is what you call twilight in English. Anyways so that's the idea that the or of ganam was created on the shi. I said this on purpose to show that there's a strong distinction between our fire and the fire of ganam. [clears throat] One was created on Monday and one was created on Shabbat and one was created on Shabbat. Okay, that's what brings in the pirate of says that it was created and this is what he says over there. What else was created on the second day and this very significant is also the the angels were created on the second day even though we've mentioned this in the past a few sh ago that the the we have our soul or spirit was created on the first day. So you see how because that's a that's an extension of right you follow me then is a part of and that was created on day one because it was much more spiritual the which is a step down which is step down we spoke about this also is the nama higher is the malim are the angels higher who's higher our nishama is incredibly high level it's just in a bad state of being right now it's in our bodies unfortunately and he has to suffer inside of our bodies but the nama is very high and it was created on the first day. Okay, that's what comes out from many the it was created on a later day on the fifth day but we hold that it was created on the second day the malik okay that's that's what comes out okay so so that's a that's the seder okay now one other important is that some people ask that the gar also says there's that that say that there were seven things that were created before the world was created. Seven things that Hashem made before the world was created. Seven things. What are those things? The Torah, as we all know, chuva, repentance, the Torah that we have to the Torah is the blueprints of the world. So, of course, Hashem created the Torah before it was created. the bet midash mikdash the place whereabe sits okay that's all was created before the name of msiach because hashem will not make a creation that has a problem before you see the future to it the msiach was already set in a already set there before the creation right he set the he set the end point before he even did the beginning point you understand so that's why the name of mashia is also that's five and what are the last two gam and ganed two of the things that were created Before the world was created is also gem and also ganim. So this is a little bit of contradiction because we just finished saying that gem was created on the second on the second day and here we are that we're saying that ganam was created on the on the uh before before the world was created. That's first of all second of all ganed when was ganen created so over there also the p of he says that ganed was created on the third day. Okay is all significant. The third day we know was when the trees and the grass and the land started sprouting, right? So of course we know that also appropriate time for Ganeden to come about. Appropriate for Ghana to come about. That's when things start getting plush and nice. If that's what Ganaden looks like, I'm not sure. You can go to Switzerland Gaden there if you want. Obviously Gan is a little bit more than that. But the idea is that when the world started producing beauty, so Ganed was also created. Okay, Gan was also created. Ghanam which I'll tell you I'll explain soon I don't want to explain it yet it was created on purpose on the second day that was on the second day so here we have a double contradiction ganed's on the third day and ganam's on the second day so the answer and and here we have it that the garra says it was created before the creation happened so what's the answer so the answer that's given by the per basically is that aiden was created before but the pet the opening to get in was open. It was created on the third day. There was no access until the act of the third day. And gem, the esh of geanum, the esh of ganam was created on the second day. But ganam itself was created before. Meaning the actual fires, the fires itself, that itself was created on the second day. Okay? Meaning there's difference between the creation of Ganam and the fire of Ganim. It was created at different at different um um uh different time periods. Okay? They created a different time >> at different time periods. It's a good question. I'm not sure. I don't I have a good answer for that. I was kind of thinking that also I don't know but I'm sure there's some significance. >> And Shouba had to be created before. >> Say again. >> Chuba. Yeah, that's that's always in L they speak about this all the Bali Muslim before because before any can come Hashem already gave us the opportunity for repentance before the Mak before the Makkah. Similar to what I'm saying now with Gan and Ghanam and also with Mashiach. We don't we won't have a whole 2,000 years of galut without a mashia already on on our doorsteps. >> So far so good. Okay, that's what comes out. So if I can be a sake in a nutshell on the first day of creation then without the stuff that you know already from the pukim right the nama was there's nama was created and also the oreganos was created okay very high levels the nama and also the oregon on the second day you have ganam with its fire was created and a few other things the malim were also created the angels and a few other things which I didn't speak about yet thirdly was created on the third day on the sixth day. Then we have the physical body, right? Then was on the first day, but the physical body is on the sixth day, which of course we know. And on M Shabbat, we have of course the physical fire that we all know and love. Okay, that's basically what's um uh that's what happened. And therefore, from all this, I'm trying to show that everyone agrees that it's nothing to do with our fire. Our fire is Shabbat. This is incredibly metaphysical fire which was created on the second. Now in thearim the ramban calls this in the beginning of brachit. If you want to look over there, he talks a lot about this long long run buns in the beginning of Brchid. He calls this fire to home or it's known as it's a different type of fire. Even though our fire gives light, this fire gives darkness, right? which it does also fire can give darkness to he says says that's what it means when we say is the fire the fire of okay in the morning which is the he says when you heard the call within the is referring to the of okay that's what he brings he brings how all the elements work the the surrounds the ar the land surrounds the water the water surrounds the ruach, the wind, if you will, and the ru and then ash and ish is always on the highest um uh level. Okay, that's basically that's basically what it is. And there's more details to this because we'll see later. I hope I'll be able to get to it before we finish here. Is that we din the the source of all of the nar is the river that's known as dinor as dinor and is dinor comes what they say is from the sweat of the highest angels. The sweat of the highest angels called the kayot the kayesh are the highest angels and it comes from their sweat which means that they even get hot here right let's get really hot over there right but what it means is the kayot are the highest angels and sweat is itself something distinct very subtle from a person's body you have your physical body right you have something physical and then you have your sweat that comes out of you is even less physical it's something that's an extraction of your body so the fire that people get burnt in is from of I'm just trying to show you more that it's an incredibly d very subtle thin uh fire painful type of experience. Okay. And that's this idea of of of what it is. Okay. And that's the struggle here of how gem of how geanum works. Okay. Of how geanom works. That's comes out approximately how the chronology works. [snorts] Okay. Now again I want to speak out why it happened on the second day. So I guess I I'm going to speak that out now in order that you get a clear but it's very interesting idea. Okay. And then we're going to get into how um how it looks like over there in Yanim. Okay. Basically it's like this and this is based on the Maharal in a couple places in the Barago and Israel. That's first of all and and second of all it's based on the writings of Mosha Shapiro who is the he's the address these days for for the all these types of things. He was nifar just a few years ago. Everybody knows any that's expressed these days comes from him. And basically it's like this. I have a number of additions here. Like I mentioned before is a place of the the is called a place of now when I talk about the darkness is what we call meaning it is a lack of something. It's not something positive. Follow me because this is a somewhat slightly deep idea. Okay is something that's lacking something. It's not a something. It's a lack of something. It is missing something. Okay? It's a lack of something. If you look at all the names that we quoted that is called, it's all lack of something. It's something missing. It's something not. It's not this. And that is it's not being anywhere. It's not being anywhere. If I could say in Yiddish, it's right. You know what I'm saying? You know the expression you're nowhere. You want to be here. and want to be there. A person only finds his existence. I'm not just talking about being happy. Your existence is only in as much as you are in a m in a place. When you find yourself in a place, so then you have a a per you have a place you have or if you want to say a sim but even without a you have a certain feeling of being or everybody wants to be. You want to exist. That guy said I think therefore I am. But you don't have to go that that's why it's just the fact that I am through the fact that I exist to be in a certain in a certain place. And that's why it's always referred to as a lack of place is not here and it's not there. It's a lack of place. You're not in the world and you're not in the you're nowhere. You're you're not in a place that's here and there. Now listen to this. You saw a very important idea which I remember many times about the idea of ganam being on the second day which I meant to you which I said to you is very significant because the second day was the beginning of something after the first day. The first day is only first. Okay. If you notice when we say what do we say on the first day? When we say yom we say we say what what do we say? We say but what's right I'm talking about at the end of right before for us before them after we say and say what's the difference what's saying and because means first you can only be first to something when something else exists you have to have a second and third to be first I can't be first in a race if I'm the only guy who ran right if I'm the only guy who ran you're going to win you can't say I came in first, you also came in last, right? It doesn't work so well, right? To be first, you need to have other things that are there. You understand? That's why we say on the first day, even though all the other days we say because in the first day, there's no sheni yet or noi. You're just starting. You're just here in the beginning. So that's why you say, okay, it's [clears throat] let's say it's more. It's more it's more accurate. It's more accurate, right? I think everybody here is Friday, so I'm pretty safe. But it's a much more accurate way of speaking. Okay, you say. So also with creation when the first day was there there was only hem al if we know Elohim alf is always connected. Hashem is one on the first day there's only the existence of hashem. The second meaning the second the rega the second day came along. The second they came along, you already have a separation. Something else kilu exists >> apart >> from one. >> Apart from one, which is impossible. There's no way you can have something besides. We all know there is only one and there's nothing else besides that one. That creation was a catastrophe. If I could say it was necessary, but it was a necessary catastrophe. What was created on the second day, the raikia and and the and the and the and the yam, the separation. First everything was all one water and Hashem created a raia to separate between the higher waters the higher waters and the lower waters. Suddenly there was separation. Suddenly there was something suddenly there was dissidence. There was differences between two sides. There was something else besides which you follow me. Hashem on purpose created the world this way. We all know that Hashem created the world to make it as if there is something else even though we all know there's nothing else. For a person who really knows there's only and nothing else really exists but he made this if I could say a bluff or this facade or this deion this idea that it looks like there's something else besides it looks like there might be something else that exists besides Hashem's existence but it really doesn't exist. And that's what happened on the second day. And that's why on the second day it does not say keto. It doesn't say keto on the second day. All the other days it does. On the second day it does not say. Why not? Because there was a lack of to on that day because that was the beginning of separation of differences of something else being in the world besides. That's why like I said the higher waters and lower waters. What do we speak about? What what do we say on the second day? What do we say masher? We [snorts and clears throat] talk about ben we this is the day we speak about the epitome of Mr. gets brought up on the second day. Why? Because this is the day that was created. Everything started on the second day. And that's why also the malim were created on this day. The malu there's some other you know people used to there's a certain extent people they can you can dab into a malik people you know they might they might think of a malik as a godly figure. You understand? There might there's many different things that a person can be end up falling to the wayside because of the second day. And that of course is why gem was also created on the second day. Gehennam was created on the second day. The fire of Gan was created on the second day. Why? Because it was the beginning of Ku showing there's something else besides Hashem in the world. There's something that exists. There's Hashem and Kuan. even though it's not true and it doesn't really exist but the idea that I could think that way and I could maybe you know maybe there's an idea that the world exists without a hashem right like unfortunately many of our our young youth are falling to the wayside to this absolute stupidity without thinking twice oh maybe there is no Hashem right because they don't think very much but it started from this yami that is able to able to happen that's why it's a deadly day as they say it's a day of it's a day of nothing of lack of missing because a person thinks he's doing something and he's really not. And that is the description of gem. That is the description of what is gamm is that you are nowhere. You think you're somewhere. I thought I was here and I thought I'm going somewhere but you really end up being nowhere. Gam is I don't have a place. I don't have a mum to to to anchor myself. I'm nowhere there. And when a person's not here and not there, it is the most painful experience that a person can have. A person needs to be somewhere. I need to be grounded somewhere. I need to know that I am somewhere. If I don't have any connection with anyone else, if I'm nowhere, if I'm not here, not there. So, it's why why you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Why is this called nowhere? Because it's called nowhere because it comes from thinking that I was somewhere. The whole time I was in this world, I thought that there was Hashem and I said, I I don't need this Hashem thing and I'll do my own thing. the the world lives without him. So the punishment is exactly what you said. You are nowhere. You understand? Because this thing doesn't exist. Hashem, I told you it's a little bit of a deep concept. Do you follow what I'm saying? No. Or not. I'm creating a void. I create the with my action. My action itself creates the ganam. When I do something that makes it as if there's no Hashem. So I end up creating an empty space. I end up creating something that doesn't exist because there is no such a thing as doing something against Hashem. But I made it as if I can do something against Hashem and I put myself in this place that we call Ganim, which is not a real existent place. You follow what I'm saying? It's a it's a very important it's a very important uh a very important to to understand. And if you're able to do that, you'll realize how painful can be because in some ways I could speak about ganam and say, "Oh, there's fire and you go into a burning thing and it hurts and these types of things." But you know what? When you think about it, at least you say, "Okay, within 3 seconds you're dead." Okay, but if if I think about it the way I'm talking about now that I'm nowhere, the best way I could think about it is even if a person is a person always wants to have a family, you don't have a family. I want to be married. At least have someone to make. You're not married. At least I want to have a friend. You don't have any friends. Okay. At least I'll go to the bar and hang out with some guys. You can't do that either. Okay. So, what happened? The guy's put in jail. Okay. At least in jail there's the couple guys that you're in the jail cell with that you leave. Okay. that also that I'm going to take away from you. I'm going to put you in solitary confinement. Wow, that's really difficult. I put you in solitary confinement. You're in your own jail cell with no interaction with anyone. A person go crazy. And here's the worst of the worst. And this I can't even fathom to be able to ever have such a thing. Japanese torture here. They put you into solitary confinement in a dark black room. Right? Whenever you get your food, they just open a little window and throw it in through some tin that comes in and the person goes to sleep and wakes up in darkness. Goes to sleep and wakes up in darkness. You'll go bananas, right? You'll go mishuga. There's only so many days, months, and for sure years that you can go before you just start kicking the walls or kill yourself or try to do something together. You there's only so long that you can handle such a situation. You understand? Because it makes you go a little crazy. They didn't do this exactly, but with with Pard when they put him in solidarity and confinement for a while because they wanted him to go a little bit crazy. They wanted to forget all the secrets that he knew. So, they put him in solitary confinement there for a thing. I don't think they put him in black, but to sit in one of these black that in in if you want to really kind of think about what Ghana might be like, it's kind of like that cuz I'm nowhere. I'm not here. I'm not there. I'm nowhere. I'm just in darkness. I'm I'm not anywhere. I'm not connected to anyone. I'm not connected to anything. I I I don't have a place. I don't have a I'm a in in the world. I don't have a place in life. And it's an incredibly painful experience because you need to be somewhere with someone with something. You need to know that I exist in somewhere. And that is why it's a very painful experience that we call ganam. Yeah. You want to test >> there's something some connection with we know are days of [snorts] >> is there any connection? >> So you're saying that yeah we turn them into days of because when you're on the lowest that's the day to be able to make it then which is interesting because those are the two days of the question of when the malim were created. There's a question the malik was created on the fifth day or the third the second day. But you're right those those days are days of that's right. So why is that concept that's also that's also a separation >> it wasn't a separation in place maybe a little bit in time if you will because creation needed time but I'm talking about now a higher level in place that there was differences but everything was one there was no there was no differences he just created the existence of an existence we always say the first day was the day of kilo was the day that he ko was limit limited himself I don't know what the good word himself in order to leave room for creation. Okay. I I think that was a a very important um important idea but that's why all the names of gehennam are always referring to uh something negative or not negative but nothing a lack of something. And some second of all it's referred to as that's why we said it's called the fire of Adam is called because it's not here not there. It's like like I told you, you're not really anywhere. So, it's a very um so it's a very painful type of experience. Also, the miktiel speaks about this in page 296 if someone wants to look it up. Um okay, that's uh that's this idea. Okay. Especially when a person was focused on himself for so long and I was focused on my interests and suddenly everything that I have is not here and everything I wanted doesn't exist. So that's where the pain of Ganam. So this I think is a good explanation of we spoke about this phys metaphysical fire. We spoke about the time that it was created and through the time of creation you now get a better understanding of what ganam is all about of what type of painful experience it is. It's the fact that I am absolutely nowhere. I stand not here and not there. Okay, that's a little bit of this um this concept. Okay, so now let's get just a little bit in a few details here. We have about 10 minutes. So let's just get a little bit details about what ganum a little bit of a structure of this uh thing that we call okay says uh it's a soar says what does it means a very narrow spot says is made up of a place that's very narrow it's like a beaker it's like a beaker it's it's it's a it's it's uh >> narrow on top and wide on the bottom. It's like a beaker. You understand? Or it's like some people you might know, right? It's wide on the bottom, but why don't it's a beaker and the why the it says that is because it wants the ashan to be in order that the fire of the the smoke of the fire doesn't go outside. That way they get also tumulted by the fire and also by the smoke of the fire. It's not enough just to be burnt by the fire but even the smoke of the fire does them in. Okay, that's what he brings the Hashem was when deepened and then spread it out because over here it's thin and then only afterwards it ends up being a little bit more uh spread out. Okay. So the Ramban and this is a very important point which I want to bring out the Ramban in he has a long piece in Shar about Gehennam and over there he busies himself and the Raman doesn't waste words he's a man who doesn't mince words he busies himself coming to point out that gehennam is a place on earth it's a place here okay it's something that exists it has measurements and it's a phys not physical it's a metaphysical place. It's spiritual, but it has boundaries. And I'll explain to you how it works soon, but he basically says it's a mit. It's a mit of something that exists, and it even exists on this world. There's going to be a lot of riot to this. So, just follow me until the end. Okay? It's a mash. First of all, you find the gum in says the world is a 60th of the 60th of Aiden and Aiden is a 60th of Gan. Meaning the gem is incredibly large and the am is almost like a kis there. The the world is almost like a lid to a lid on top of geanum. It's a very large place. It's got to be large cuz it seems to need to contain a lot a lot a lot of people unfortunately I don't know how many ganed gets only we're going there right but people there's a lot of people that need to go in there. Now what's interesting is I want to point out >> what the trans Yeah. Yeah. mostly. Yeah. If you remember we said there's two two st there's some for for some people it's transient let's say for hopefully not us but probably us yeah but it's also for some people it stays stagnant for the rashim sometimes they keep getting burnt and they never they never get a kapara from there okay but I do want to point out one thing which is similar to what we were saying before it says that it gets bigger as much as people are added to it meaning it's not that there's this much room and we keep sticking people there it's this much or this many people it's full and it gets bigger as long as there's more people that need entry You understand? It's always it's always like a like right it has as much room as is required in order to do that. It's not just for convenience purpose because that is that is based on what I said before. What did I say before that you create your own GAM there's no Gam that ex exists intrinsically. You make your ganam. Every action that you do creates a ganam. It creates something because I put myself in a place saying ku there's no heashem ka put him aside k I'm ignoring him ka I'm saying I don't live you're putting yourself away from existence and you yourself are creating that place where you're going to be put in you understand so is getting bigger automatically I'm saying you create the gam as long as you're doing it if I could say it's your fault don't blame it on it's your fault you did it it wouldn't be there if you didn't do it it's only as much as you're there it's also the other way around with your every action I do good action I do creates me more Aiden. I'm going to get there. It's going to be uh it's not just like you do it and you get a prize. Tada. You know the booby prize. Yeah, very nice. Thank you. No, it's not it it is what you made. What you did is is you do it. It's a direct consequence of your action. You understand? A guy who smokes didn't get punished by getting lung cancer. He gave himself lung cancer. That is lung cancer. You didn't you did it. It's not a punishment. Don't don't be stupid. Right. You gave it to yourself the smoking. Yeah, for sure. too much. You understand? It's it's the same it's the same type of idea. Okay, you follow what I'm saying? So anyways, the Ramban brings from all this that we see that gehenn actually exists in this world. It's a fiery place and it's very large. Okay. However, it's so large when you read the statistic, it's not understood how does it fit in this world. Now I'm going to mention to you an explanation for it. But let me start with one thing. We all know and they did not know this in the past. Okay, this is a new phenomenon which they've learned in the past I don't know 100 or 100ish years or something like that. We all know that we live on an extremely thin crust of the earth. Okay, the earth as big as it is is extremely thin and minimal. Right? I would call it a kisoga if you would ask me. Right? Which is exactly the words I just read you from the zor the same idea. It's called the kisa is a lid on a pot. A lid on a pot. So he says the world is like a pot on top of gam. It's a world of a pot. So I'm just telling you that the crust of the earth is a very thin. We we were familiar with this. I'm sure we've learned most of geology most of us somewhere. Right? It's a very thin crust around the earth which is very thin. Inside you have a mandible which is a very thick part. And then you have the core of the earth. Right? Now the core of the earth is piping hot. It's super crazy hot, which they don't have fully explanations why it's like that. And they also don't know B, besides the heat that's inside of it, which they did not know existed beforehand. Besides that, right, so all those cartoons where you said the guy goes down to China, it's not possible because you go down, you get burnt into the thing, right? It's not possible. You go get burnt by the it's incredibly hot in the middle of the in the core of the in the core of the earth. But um that's that's the heat that's contained inside of it. Also, the thing I've saw a few documentaries about volcanoes. Now, volcanoes also, they don't have a perfect explanation about where it happened. They never know when it's going to happen or this. They're trying to figure it out because it's wiped out many cities in the past, etc. But it obviously has some connection to the incredible heat that's contained within the crust of the earth, of course, from billions of years ago, and that created the whole world through all these volcanic eruptions and billions of years ago. But there's some type of heat that's that's within the core of the earth that is keeping everything incredibly hot down there which is not fully explained for which is not fully explained for where that heat is coming from and incredible heat >> as well like as as what we see we got heat from the sun at night time still cold the ground's cold the sea's cold >> okay so I I I I would agree with you but I feel like too much of an amar to say if I agree with you you're right you're saying is it necessary not you're right they don't know what it's or needed or where it came from or how it happens. >> It's not there's no obvious purpose to it for >> right I I would like to say to you right oh I'm going to get to kame in a minute that's what I'm going to speak about I >> I want to say right to you but just like I don't like when a professor starts saying what you know what we should be thinking is raanim what the raanim should be thinking I'm not going to say what the professor should be thinking either you say I'm not going to get into their field over much because I don't know of course you can ask Mr. Google and I if he's going to give me the answers but we'll leave that right now. >> All the magnetic forces as well cause >> there's a lot of magnetic forces that also cause that's true also because of the heat. Yeah, that's true. Anyway, so this heat that's contained, let me tell you aal that we have from the and it's the freeler has a whole piece on this if you want to look in amuna. He has a whole piece a lot of things that you see in the which describe things. He says like this science tells you what meaning observations what we see. The Torah or the Gar the Gar tell you why. We say the llama and they say ma we say what we see. The the scientists say what they see. All they could do is say observations. They can't say why it's really like that or how it happened or where where the sources are. They can give all their stupid theories that they give out about a million trillion years ago and all that stuff. They can't say and we the Torah comes and tells you the why behind it. What's interesting over here is we're talking about heat that was stated is in the earth from a few thousand years ago. I'm already saying from Gumar and Zor that already talks about the heat that was within the earth and nobody ever thought that there was such a strong heat inside of the earth that was not necessarily believed. You understand? So, this heat is uh is what? It's not mine. [music] >> Not me. >> Huh? >> Oh, it's in your jacket. It's in your jacket. >> Not mine. Not mine. >> Not my fault. >> Okay. Anyways. All right. It's okay. You shut up anyways. >> Um anyways, so that's uh that's it. That that that is contained uh within it. That's what contained within it. Okay. So that so what I'm saying is okay I'll be honest with you this is my own theory to a certain extent >> okay this is my own theory >> talk >> okay so this is my own theory to a certain extent but the heat that we see contained in the earth is very much interconnected with gehennam now I don't say that everyone's going to dig a hole and go straight down to ganam and you're going to be burning everyone's if you go dig in the core of the universe you'll see a bunch of nama's going ah I'm not talking about that right >> just right just right that's to regard, right? But it's like this. There's [clears throat] such a thing as a spiritual and a physical connection. In our body, we see that we have a physical body, and we all know we have an ashama that's contained inside of it. It's very hard to explain, but it's it's evidence. There's nothing to deny. Some days I'm depressed, some days I'm happy, some days you're angry, sometimes where do you get all these types of emotional feelings? Or why are we all so different? You can have 100 people in the same room and 100 totally totally different personalities, right? And or 600,000, right? We have a tremendous amount of different personalities all coming from different things. We're all made of the same nose and eyes and this and ears. Everybody looks the same, right? The feature, okay, features from a different we all know that are all different. We come we have a spiritual stature. This is what in my opinion even though people don't speak about this is like the biggest question on on uh on what's on on the big bang or having things that just happen by accident. If the world is created with a bunch of big bangs even with all the the problems statistically but in the end of the day we should all be robots or we should all be computers. Okay, we should all just all be similar. You want to look different, fine, but how can we all different personality? Where does that come from? There's nothing physical that can point to say, "Oh, you're going to be an angry person. and you're going to be upset person. There's nothing physical that can be done. The answer is it comes from a point of view that's within you. So we see there's some connection between an ashama and a goof. The nama and a goof have some type of relationship and one affects the other. Right? A person who has this type of nishama, this type of spirit, this type of soul, his body will act differently. He can even in pain sometimes even more and things like that. But there's an interconnected we mentioned. That's why we say we all know the We say at the end what's the so the says doesn't make any sense but somehow the and the goof seem to have a relationship they seem to have a they seem to affect one another it's a pelle it's it's it's weird it's strange it's unbel it's wondrous I don't know how it works but somehow it works they have this connection >> the mood affects the health >> the mood can affect your health also also yeah besides your health and also who you are that's for sure your mood can very much affect your health that's very much books they talk about it. Okay. So if that's true so I'm just saying it's the same thing with gehennam. Geanum is the same type of thing. Of course what we see physical fire underneath the the world is a physical fire but it has a spiritual fire. Where's the source of that fire? A spiritual fire that's behind it which is the esh of gam which is much bigger much more. You're not limited. The nishama is very big inside of our little goof. My goof is this big. I have a big nishama inside of there. How's that possible? So to gem is very vast and you're not going to see it. You can't see it with a naked eye, but it's pinpointed as the Ramban says in this world. It's pinpointed in a limited world of a physical world that we're contained inside of it. You follow what I'm saying? It's a very it's a very important thing. You can have a smaller world that's connected inside of a thing. It just doesn't take any space. I'll give you an example of something doesn't take space. It's spiritual. Even though it's connected in the physical world, the GMAR says we all should be many people are familiar with this Gumar. The Gumar says theim the holy of holies in the beta mikdash was 20 by 20. Correct? But the in the middle was the aresh the the altar, the ark, whatever you call, right? The ark, right? The ark. It was in the middle. And when you would measure from the wall to the ark, you would measure 10. And when you measure from this wall to the you measure 10. When you measure from here to here, you would measure 10. And remember we here 10 that you know ask any you don't need to be an architect to know that doesn't figure out that doesn't work. How does it go 10 10? It shouldn't work that way because the arc takes space >> with [laughter] this Israeli contractor. Huh? Very good. So how is that possible? The answer is because the ark even though it looks like it's there physically but we say it's nice of it's it it doesn't take any space. It's something metaphysical doesn't take any space. It's above it's above space. It's something that's not limited to physical. >> There was a physical. I have not denying it was a physical existed. But the Gumar says that when they would measure it, you wouldn't see anything. It didn't it didn't match. Okay? Just like your nama also has incredible features, incredible how large it is. But somehow it fits in here. I don't know how it fits. Where is it? Open up your body. You're not going to see Mr. Nishama over here and over here. You're not going to see it. But it's metaphysical. But all I'm saying is like this. And with this I'm finishing. Okay. The spiritual part of you, your nashama is not seen is incredibly vast and it pushes things to do things. It can it gives you it makes you do things. So too the the fire of gehenn you can't see but it's the lama. It's the why that can give the heat into the world. It can actually express heat into the world. And that's why we'll end up seeing different heat inside of the world. And this is like you were mentioning this. I'm finishing basically is the Gumar and Shabbat and this is the Ramban brings his and it's a bombay I mean if as long as you believe in a garra then it's a there's nothing to do the gummor brings of course the famous raiosi holds that you're allowed to heat things up and do which is insulating on Shabbat if it's heated by fire it's not allowed but you are allowed to insulate something that's heated by sun by the sun okay meaning if it's thermal like our um our our our thingies the solar energy that we have so that you are allowed to do it. That's why opening hot water on Shabbat initial is better than in America. >> Okay? Because since you're not well for some people hold you are allowed to but it's a lot more lenient. We have more lenences because it's solar energy as opposed to fire. Okay, that's what that's how that's how we hold. So the Gumar says one second but we know that they insulated something in Kame Taria in the waters of Tavarius. What do they call the baths the hot baths of Tavaria, right? The hot baths of Tibarius. >> The springs. The hot springs of Tibarius. And then and they did it and it was assur and the rabbis got upset at them doing them. And that's told of the that's from the heat of the sun. That's only heated from the heat of the sun. So you see, you're wrong. You see, even when something is heated by the heat of the sun, it's also a sort to do on Shabbat. >> Yeah. >> Say again. He's not knowing from the >> So he answers that's what they asked in the Gmorrah. What does Rio answer? He says and this his words no you're wrong over there it's that's the words of no those waters get hot because it passes by the opening of it goes by the of the opening of that's where he gets it heat and not only is he saying that there's a real fire here of of of ganam that exists but he's also saying it's not called to it's not called the solar energy that's called fire that's called real fire that's the real thing that's called fire like you have in your stove that you're going home to It's incredible. And that's why it's a tob. You can't use the tavaria waters because it's coming from the fire of that's like a gar black and white that's basically saying there's a real fire of ganam in this world that exists somewhere and it's being burnt. Now you'll tell me so where is this fire? How can that be? That's that's strange. It can't be like that. But it's like I'm telling you the spiritual fire is affecting the world that as we know it. So we can see heat or like I said in the core of the uni of the core of the earth there is heat and it comes from the source of that heat is from the spiritual fire of gem. So I'm pointing out to you is gam can be enormous and it's a spiritual fire but it actually affects a physical world just like our nama can affect a physical body. There's an incredible phenomenon here that we're pointing out that one is able to affect um one is able to affect the other. Okay. And that's what he brings a number of different fires like that. One last one we'll end with this is the suka we know when he was learning and a bird would fly over his head. A bird would burn up. You heard that right? Bird would burn up. Where's this where the fire come from? So that that fire was a spiritual fire which is connected [music] to this fire of geanum. So this is a very important idea that I wanted to bring out about the about the sort of gem. Okay. So this at least was a very I think this is a great introduction at least not introduction but this is an understanding of the spiritual fire how it affects where it's located when it was created and now we have a much better understanding into what ganim is next week we'll speak about the seven levels of ganam a little bit and see how severe it is and we'll probably get a little bit more into the nitty-gritty we only have two shirum left and they're 8:00 by the way okay >> when you is