Gateway to Tefilla : The Great Siddur Controvercy of Prayers for Ruchnios

this torah class is brought to you by torahanytime.com okay brookham welcome everyone to today's filo share which is dedicated by our good friend basal rose nishmas his brother tsv ben levy yitzchak so we're going to speak about a fascinating subject today we know that every morning we wake up and the final of the 15th bracha says it's based on the days we make two requests here god don't bring me to sin god force my yetzer to be subservient to you so basis basically saying god that's it i'm going to lie in bed all day i'm not going to make any efforts to attack my sahara you do the job i want to be the god alhadors i want you to do me a favor don't make me sin and tie up my yet sahara so in the ataris zuccainim which is one of the noise calam that's printed on the side of the shock he says don't say this tfila it's apikarsus he says when you wash your face don't say don't bring me to sin the tishma me love guard me that i don't come to sin but to say don't bring me to sin that's like telling god god stop make it that i don't sin the lama alto vieni don't say everything is the hand of heaven so don't say these fellows so the question is we gotta um ilan you're gonna ask um um johnny whether whether you could say this or not but the rabbiak of emdin attacks this atherosclerom he says i see a new thing says not to say beyonce this is ridiculous empty it should be nullified ye toil basically let him take what he said and trash it throw it in the lake that's i'm translating it nicely by the way you let him take what he said and throw it in the garbage can again i'm not saying this is what yaakov says i'm wondrous how could someone publish this [Music] how could anyone dispute what it says in the gemara vertigo you ever hear of an orthodox jew not saying these fellows with the common communism of action there are many many instances where we pray for spiritual assistance shalom lovely they hate this is not the only time he wrote we know when he finishes his villa he would say god it should be your will that i shouldn't sin and we say that on yom kippur god it should be your will that i don't sin well if he divide the queen to terrorist the kingdom he would have vehemently disagrees with any reason to dispute these feelings ah says yak of em then and we're going to see that in the times of rabiyakov there was a very young scholar and his name was of henna known as his name was shloima zalman of hano germany known as rav zaman hannah was born in 1687. he was a very young man and a very sharp person and in his time in 1704 there was a siddhar published called siddhar darach hasadah which was punished by revzreal and his son rebel yahoo which became the definitive siddhar for ashkenazic jury and i'm reading it to you now from rabbi reisman's book pathways of the prophets where he has an entire chapter on this subject and because so many grammatical errors had crept into the sith these two gadolin of israel and rebellio changed over the whole sitter siddhar they were the first ones to make notations you know in the art school sitter they give you a little mark when it's a schwannoma when it's they were the ones who innovated that and zalman henna took great issue with the siddhar he published a counter siddhara called shahrait fila where he wrote a hundred corrections on this new updated seller and then he published a second volume where he made 326 corrections so you can imagine the hard feelings when rabzalman henna the first after hundreds of years and updated siddhar siddhar hasada comes out and rezaman hema basically dismisses it with over 400 corrections now the truth is when rabzamin henna offered these corrections many of them were incorporated in updated versions of siddhar darakhsyakasada however rabzalman henna had such a sharp pen and he wrote so powerfully he writes about the siddhar which we we're the siddha derek he writes about rabbil yahoo and his son rabbaz real av it was he says about them they're a father and a son they fell into a pit meaning that you know they don't know what they're there they don't know what they're saying and repsalmin henna took issue not only with um with rev azreel and rebellio he took issue with many gadolin that preceded him and for example the abar banel and the ibn ezra and the siachi itzhak and rabzaam and henna actually felt so bad that he wrote sharply against israel and rabbil yahoo that he published um what is called a daf his nazis basically an apology where he apologized for his sharp tone and he but that did not sort of quiet the hard feelings that developed between with him henna and rebel yahoo and web as real in fact one of the things he wrote is that when the siddhar daraksiya khasada came out and it was also referred to as binyan shloimai um the they criticized absalom and henna because absalom and henna wrote a response called binyan shlaimai and they dubbed it so rezaman hannah responds to all the accusations against him because he was accused of speaking very very harshly about gadolin that preceded him and he proceeded to use the following expression basically and he quotes the havoc corrected earlier authorities and the cabezar said look i'm allowed to correct an earlier authority as aristotle said i love plato i love socrates but i love the truth above all so this was a very um heated and bitter disagreement between ramzam and henna versus rob israel and came to the scene and iraq of amden took great issue with rabzam and henna until ultimately the two of them actually met in person and one of the issues and the disagreements between rabzam and henna and ravyakovdin is in the expression how do you pronounce those words what does the word mean so rabbi yaakov in the marx here writes as follows if it's because with zaman henna was bothered atu mandura yada la frushay croi mose of tifta if it's because he didn't like the expression the if so someone who doesn't know how to explain a pasta will refute it even though seems to indicate that we're forced to do it but nevertheless it is the will of god that we pray for this hazal say yes right shall adam a person's yet sahara prevails over him every day and the umali i call this if god would not help us we would not be able to the um only say everything is in the hands of heavens of yours believe ceres that is god does not decree oh you should fear god you shouldn't fear god that is beyond the purview of the shamayim god will not give a a explicit decree that you will fear him and he you will not fear him but if you put in some effort and some uh and some hishtadlus then the rebellion will assist you and it is god's will that we ask him for that assistance feel of a person who raises up and dominating messiah say they help him actually not so and it's impossible to be spared from sin beliefs meaning the same thing the same way when it comes to sin even though god doesn't make anyone sin but if somebody sins repeatedly they will prevent him from doing shuva because the person has set himself in that path so too um just like if a person sins and sins and sins god will present him new avenues to sin because he's selected that pat path like we find so too someone strengthens himself in the right path they guard him from sin even though he was prepared to to sin like hazard say torah is megan omazil and fila also helps like david malek says in this week's excuses like moisture being on this week's parsha alcove now moshe actually did not dive in for khalif and moshe did not say about khalif this is probably a tall cypher here probably you should say and the truth is we find khalif davin for himself basically we find throughout the torah people pray for their spiritual success and that is not in any way a violation of the fact that everything is in the hands of heaven except for the fear of god when we say the fear of god is not in god's hands god does not decree yonko should fear him and barrel should not god decrees god would never decree yonko should just fear him but if yonko puts an effort god will assist him and god wants us to pray to him and that's part of our efforts says i've corrected this bracha in my special siddhar called luach eresh now as we mentioned that rabzalman henna wrote a siddhar called shahreitfila in which he corrected the siddha of rebellion israel and ravyakov didn't wrote comments on this he wrote a commentary called luach eresh so we're now about to learn and this is a subject that almost nobody knows anything about and that is there are hundreds of mahlika sin between the medaktakem namely rib salman henna and rebellion rev israel and ravyakov regarding the right correct pronunciation of various files one of these um and the the this could be found there's a new edition of the rabbiakov of of luach let me show it to you so if one day you want to pick it up you can in this critical edition of luach eresh you have the chariza of rabzalman henna you have the likutem of yak of amdin hishita and then later on in history you have footnotes by ramora kai dusseldorf so um this is a very interesting subject and one of the very interesting macholikers between ramzam and henna and ravyakovamden is how to pronounce the word so if you look at number four rezaman henna says the correct pronunciation is in all those i find with a with an eye with a hailam um means to bend but here it's a verb paul therefore i say says every siddha in the world is wrong it's asking god and you should force well this is clear obvious and there's no questions in other words ribs almond hen is of the opinion that the correct text of the bracha is reno by the way despite the fact that the gemara has a different nosak right the gemara arghamar says the festivity but rezaman hannah says nope not correct it's a verb however rabbyakovdin in his luach eresh takes issue with this and he says and this is the ms hagomor and this is how hazal speak like in the mountains of him doesn't mean to force we're not asking god to force our yate sahara because that probably is a violation of ah kobe day shaman kaif means to bend don't pay attention to what's written in the safer shin tough what's it say for shintav shahri tv ramzam and henna shinuyavatesha he's clouded there's no no question this is what is called from the fulime his hand is on the bottom side says rabbiak of emden how could we say force like rabzaam and henna wants to say forcing means hechrach against his will like it always means and that's not possible can we ask hashem to tie up and force hayetsa no forcing can only is only uh correct in the context of the one who's really acting that we could say the person should force the his yates and do against his right side in other words like this when we say to forest forcing is only possible referring to the one who is doing the foreseeing not the one who is being forced you can't say force the yetzer the the term the verb force fear can only fall upon the baal hamas who is doing it that he we could say force him we should say we could say to god god forced me to do against my will but you can't say about the yetzer because he's not acting it's true says does even though he is turning us and tilting us to follow the whims of our heart but that's not called a ulaba etzem so we can't say force the yetzer what do you mean force yetzer is you you're forcing someone to do a an action against their will so you could say we're forcing the person to do an act against their inner desire of the yetzer that they have in them but you can't force the gates the term force is when someone is being an active accomplisher not when someone is an interferer we don't need the actions of the torah we need him to be gone we need him to be subdued that's what we're asking for we don't need his reality we need his disappearance so why would we say force the yetzer forcing implies we need this thing to be active no we don't need the answer to be active we need him to be we need him to fly kite we need him to disappear so the term force is not a proper turn we don't want his mitsyas so let's ask god hey god make the eight sir disappear the answer to that as we know the governor sanhedrin says the world cannot exist without the asahara the world needs the eight sahara to exist says yak of emden all we could pray for is we can't pray to force the azar because we don't want his active participation we can we can't dive and he should disappear because the world can't exist with that all we could do is god subdue him let him not prevail over the person we want his knee and his shiflus that's his bittle the zebra the masculine anyone who's familiar with language as i could tell all the participants today are great hebrew linguists right so therefore anyone who's familiar with hebrew knows that is what the word means came on him you can't say this that we're asking not to force because if you say that that's taco a violation it says if it means to force then i would agree with the terrorists the canaan that you can't say it you were movato if you're forced to do good that's not our request our request is we're saying god we know those who come to purify themselves you open for them shari ezra shari see you and shari seattle like the gemara says so therefore since i need help i come to you biba kasha so now if hashem helps us he's not doing on it on his own he's relying on our efforts but that's not correct says that's taco violation of bahira i the rabzamin henna brings araya from kaifenoise i don't know what he's talking about sorry no maybe he's on our side the the word kyphen is from kefiya like i say kaifen means forcing but who says that's what the cause means allah brazil you ever saw himself with it's because he doesn't know enough of hazal that this led him to this point it's not enough to know hebrew you also have to be familiar with hazal the fact that he doesn't know him and shas says that okay that i could that i know but the fact that he is missing in his knowledge of hebrew that's his that's the specialty the that is a one of the big macho kiss in between rabzalman henna and rabiyakov namely rabzamin heno learns that the correct pronunciation is force and rayakov says first of all forcing is only possible on the active party and secondly to ask three bansham to force anything on us in terms of rochnias that be a violation of bahira so now we come to the holy khida and the khida in the immaculate bracha on seven men above he quotes al-tara sakainam who says don't say the alta vienu and don't say because because i call the day shamayim ah says um but i saw a beacon wrote bitterly and hotly that everything that tears the kingdom wrote is dwarim talem and you should forget it and this is something we do all the time and according to um so bjakubem then basically wipes the floor with the ateras decaynam and the hida says he plays again then really ripped apart that teresa can him okay even though this person was mahara was the marau roy faye and uh the academy made him basically into an amaranth but says i have a question why didn't then quote the first thing that taurus the kingdom say said guard mean not to come to you know conveniently did not copy the first statement that that teresa kingdom said that you should say the vitish marines says it is clear that the above mentioned rabbanum they knew without hashem's help we cannot fight the eight sahara and we need to ask hashem it's a it's a dover pasha zilkari bairav every jewish child knows this and they even said you should say shattesh morani me lovely they faith and they say that explicitly and that's not a violation of kobe day but the words don't bring me to sin they're not happy with because it's mashma that without phila hashem would bring us to sin in other words says the khida rabiyakov in his opinion did not have the proper grip of the atherosclerosis not that the tyres of kingdom said you don't pray for rakhinis you do pray for us he himself said save the tishma um the problem of that terrorist kingdom was you can't say god don't bring me to sin because that implies that if we wouldn't ask this god would bring us to sin but how could he say such a thing so it's true unless there's a historical hashem's not going to help you but he's not going to bring you to sin now the way the shlock answered this and we're going to see rip schwab addresses this is that yes sometimes god will bring you to sin if you sin so much that average and your bola tamini and says the khidak but even abola tame um they don't say if someone comes to become tame they're going to bring him to sin it's just they open for him and therefore he allows to say shattesh morani love with their faith meaning help me that i don't sin says well according to that there's the kingdom when rava davin that i shouldn't sin anymore so the marxist says that should be erased what do you mean why should that be a race that there's a kingdom is muay that you could say moraine and the reason why you shouldn't say the sits right now he holds that's mashma forcing the eight sahara without any histories or effort on your part or he holds that hashem is only gonna help you a little bit but ultimately you're going to have to foresee sahara but hashem himself doesn't force the yetzahara so therefore the opinion of that terrorist the kingdom is not so foreign it's not that he doesn't hold of of spiritual prayers he himself acknowledges spiritual praise he holds alta vienu implies if you don't say that god will bring you to sin and vegeta implies god forces that's a problem however says the even though i don't think that um then gripped the ataris the kingdom correctly i think the revyak of emdin is correct in his final analysis that you cannot change another gemara and many post him and all of cloud he says to lilos meaning avon causes us to be given over into their hands so the bottom line is even though i don't like the approach of regatta of em then i agree with his conclusions however what about the fesiatz don't say it but in shas and kama plays can we find it and we could explain that that means when there is a historious on our part but it doesn't mean hashem will do it on his own then after i wrote this as i found that the madani melaka the end he's also troubled and he answers that no this is a proper lotion like says and the rabbiak then then brings this and as well as in the siddhara of the shell addresses this so basically the bottom line is that the suspicion of rabbiakavemden on the above mentioned rabbah there's a kingdom these the kingdom have protected themselves from this uh suspicion because they do say you could say this is hate to the defense of rabiyakov then i'm assuming his problem is that it doesn't help that that harassed the kingdom said oh you could say vitishmireni because that's not what the gemara says if the gemara says you kadavan the alta vienne that means this is a valid villa marv i want to share with you beautiful words of philosophy it's a very interesting concept you know let's think about the bracha hamad we begin by saying god you open up my eyes and you take sleep away from me and we explained last week we immediately say since wake up time is the pivotal moment of the day it's the it's the crossroads of the day that is the time when we have to capitalize to use our first thoughts and actions and words for this hashem so after we thank hashem for waking us and opening our eyes we immediately say god set us in the right path and we make all these feliz hashem save me from sahara save me from the sahara save me from the from avira and oven sahara and the but the ending seems to have nothing to do with anything we say the you say god save me from yet sahara save me from sin say me from pasha and uh the sigmulani duke mila sodom to me that's not what the theme of the broadcast was about the theme of the bracha was about being saved from the etoro so the box says that when we end off the broadca israel also what do you mean to everyone you know i was walking by the garbage can and there was a big hole in my garbage bag and there was a bird there pecking and eating lunch so it's going even to the birds so why do we say israel says in the siddha of the ashkenazim it says you know why because the the what's the said we're talking about this in this bracha that he saves us from hait and from avon and that the satan should not have dominion over us and it's arshnide of dominion but rather this hasset is only to cloud israel god does not protect the gentiles from sin god protects us from sin because israel is our soul actually comes from a different place than the souls of they come as always our souls are mizuka are refined and with surah and and purified shiva saying our souls are etsa mcdouchevatahara the only thing is sometimes there are superimposed distractions we have extraneous distractions the satan the itsahara therefore god saves us but the um are not inherently pure they are essen atoma and they belong to the eight sahara and hashem does not do the said to them to save them from the eight sahara so even though the rambam just ends the bracha gomez we say and the smack says to everyone no but we're referring to the special that he protects us from the eight sahara so comes and he says in the safe air on tihilan there is no greater kindness than the greatest hashem does to you on a daily basis is he saves you from the sahara say when if you're on this shir now and you're not doing a billion other empty things that you could have been doing hashem saved you from the tzara every moment of the day hashem is saving us because if hashem wouldn't save us we would fall in his hands so david says this is god is before my eyes what's the said that i could walk in your truth valaya shafti must say shaman i do not sit with those who are empty ad the question that you do is i hate evil doers the question that you do is that i don't sit with the wicked and this is always in front of my eyes so we have to recognize that this hashem does is really the greatest hashem does for us and therefore when we say the words god don't bring me to sin and we had this on the sheet last week and i'm just reminding ourselves god would never bring us to sin but there is a phenomenon that when a person sins he puts himself in a certain track and a certain conveyor belt in a certain direction where new doors of sin will now open so we say god even if i've sinned out to thee don't allow that sin to carry me for further along the road and this is in fact how rob schwab learns as well you see me shattergame i saw those who would want to translate out to vienu is don't lead me don't lead me to sin this is a mistake god don't lead me to sin that's christianity we don't believe in that god doesn't lead anyone to sin ain't because you're maybe a marriage god does not lead anyone to sin shari no give us free choice but since there is a methodology of habalatan altiviani means like this even if a certain taivoritsara has dominated me and seduced me to do evil don't open the door to make it easier to send out to the enu is a lotion of bia to vienna means don't bring me back to or to where i once was alte vieno don't bring me back i sinned yesterday god don't bring me back there because naturally i should be brought back there not because you're going to bring me there but i would bring myself there yesterday before you accustomed me and your torah maybe i was doing things wrong but now i'm diving and gone don't bring me back to where i used to be okay merv rabbi sai this is all in the tv wishing everyone a terrific you've just experienced another torah class brought to you by torahanytime.com