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Kazakh, Kazakh.
That was good, Rabbi. Um
Yeah, this is definitely a a a a moment
of of of
clarity, right? It's a good full circle
moment. The Rabbi and I was learning
uh a while back here in New York.
But um
the most important thing that I think
that I was able to accomplish
when I was, you know, 12 years old or
so, my mom mentioned to me that we
should reconnect with the laws of Moses,
right?
And so at that time I was more so
trying to figure out what that meant. So
it took me on this path of learning and
trying to figure this out.
And that path brought me to to Judaism,
right? I met a Rabbi when I was
in my 20s.
We started learning together. We started
building. We started talking. We started
going to Shiurim. I started going to
uh Pesach Seders and all these things
and and it became a um
a moment of clarity, a moment of
of reconnection.
Felt like my neshama was finding what it
was
always searching for.
I always tell my guys that I learn with
uh my young my young guys, all right?
They they try to figure out how to keep
you know, their their Torah intellect
and also want to have fun.
I I always say you got to you got to
have your golden lane.
Right? It's important to have a golden
lane.
We have we have the foundation of the
Torah, which you know the Torah means
instructions. So we have our
instructions and our our manual, right?
You can't build anything without having
a manual or your instructions.
So we have our we have our instructions
that
it's required for us to live a life
according to
connecting with the creator, connecting
with God, connecting with the universe,
connecting with all the elements that
God presents to us, right? And in order
for that to happen, you have to live
according to these instructions.
And so but yet while you're living with
these
this Torah, these instructions, you're
still able to have fun. You're still
able to enjoy your life and be normal,
to be a you know, to to have fun.
Um and so what for me
that's always kind of been my approach
to
to to Judaism, to Torah, to living
accordingly. It's finding my golden lane
that allows me to not deviate from
the instructions, the Torah, but yet I
still have fun within within those
elements.
So therefore, there's there's stories of
uh of
when I was when I was playing with the
Knicks, for example, and I would have my
siddur with me.
And we traveled on road trips.
And I would be reading my siddur or just
learning about the siddur or the order
of prayer, what is happening, how do I
read, can I translate? At the same time
I had a Hebrew tutor who was teaching me
on the side. And my teammates might have
thought like what's Amar'e learning?
Like what's what's going on? This guy's
learning Hebrew back there. He has a
siddur with these languages inside of
it. What's what's going on?
Um Yom Kippur comes around. He's not
drinking waters. He's during training
camp. He's like running these sprints
with trainers around him and just making
sure he doesn't pass out. Like what is
what, you know?
And all these things was happening
while I was playing for the Knicks.
And I was very somewhat
somewhat secretive about it because I
was still learning. And I was still
taking upon my approach to understand
exactly what I was learning.
And the Rabbis and I would sit down.
We'd talk. We'd learn for hours.
And no one would have a clue about it,
right? We I I go and play against the
Celtics, score 41 points, and then that
night I'm with the Rabbis learning.
Right? And this was happening my entire
time.
And when I went to Israel to go visit, I
visited Israel in 2010, actually.
And once I arrived in Israel, I felt
like I had a complete connection.
I felt like this was home. This was like
this is I felt I felt it right away. I I
I had no
other type of
um
other type of like
objection except for just this is home.
I felt it I felt it like right away. I'm
I was I was speaking earlier about that.
Like when you get to Israel, you go to
Jerusalem, you feel like this is home.
It's like no no other feeling.
Um
And so when I
finished my time playing with the Knicks
and I went to Miami and played my final
year with the Miami Heat,
I wanted to go over Israel and continue
to go to go home and also to learn.
So I took my career over to to to
Israel, played for uh Hapoel Jerusalem.
And then also went to Yeshiva. Went to
Ohr Somayach.
And so even then now I'm faced with
another challenge, right? Because my
teammates didn't quite understand what's
happening there.
They see I wake up 6:00 in the morning.
I'm going to daven. I'm going to Yeshiva
for an hour for a shiur. Then I'm going
to get a coffee. Then I'm in the weight
room training
like a rock star, right? I'm in the I'm
in the weight room early training hard
like, you know, and then I get to
practice and I have all this energy and
I'm like flying through the air and all
these things. And then once practice
over, I'm back in Yeshiva.
And then now they they're starting to
realize like well something's happening
here. He don't want to hang out with us.
He's not going out to party with us.
He's only going to kosher restaurants.
And my teammates start to understand
exactly the path that I was on.
And what I was able to accomplish, you
know, I I what I said earlier about this
is that having that golden lane.
I think a lot of times when we when we
have a the idea of of what that means,
everyone has their own personal
relationship with Hashem.
Right? They you know,
Hashem Hashem deals with you on your
level that you
are able to receive the information from
God.
Right? So everybody has their own
relationship. So I can't judge anyone
for what they're doing or what they're
not doing because you have your own
journey, your own path.
At the end of the day Hashem loves you
and and and and so for me I was able to
just kind of take that notion and and go
for it.
Um
And so, you know, with with with with
understanding this week's parsha, right?
We see that we see that Yosef HaTzaddik
uh had passed away. And then also the
the Bnei Israel, the the the the 12
tribes also passed away. Their
generations have passed away.
And we see that, you know, Pharaoh, you
know, didn't know Yosef HaTzaddik and he
wanted to, you know, inflict more a more
more pressure on on Bnei Israel and and
and and apply more more more pressure on
them.
And the interesting part about this
week's parsha is that as we see when
when Moshe Rabbenu went back to
Mitzrayim to try to convince uh the
people not, you know, that this is that
these promises are are going to happen,
these miracles are going to happen, but
yet Pharaoh applied more pressure.
He's like, all right, well we're going
to make it harder for you now. We're
going to, you know,
turn the heat up a bit for lack of a
better term, right? And so
and Moshe Rabbenu went back to Hashem
like, listen, you know, what's
happening?
And and what I understood from that is
that whenever whenever there's more
affliction, whenever there's more
pressure, whenever there's more, you
know, hatred toward us, we have to have
the the faith, the emunah, the bitachon
to know that Hashem is always with us.
No matter what, and inside our heart we
know who we are. We know the the
halachot. We know the laws that we're
dealing with. We know the mitzvot that
we're holding by. We have our golden
lane. We understand the Torah from an
intellectual level. And that's going to
keep us away from any any hurt, harm, or
any danger, right? And so
uh with that being said, Rabbi, I want
to thank you for allowing me to to to to
share a few words. I'm not sure if
there's a Q&A moment or anyone has any
questions for me.
Um but we can definitely,
you know, ask some questions. I'm from
I'm here to answer if you if you have
any.
Do you have any questions yet? Guys,
don't be shy, guys.
>> Where are you going to be for Shabbos?
I'll be in Brooklyn. Uh I will I will be
in Brooklyn.
For Shabbos. The the hardest player
you've ever had to guard?
The hardest player I ever had to guard?
He was on his team. You know, he never
played against Shaq.
We can't we can't we can't use Shaq.
Shaq was like impossible to guard. Um
LeBron James.
Like James? LeBron's the hardest to
guard, for sure.
What did they say about you going to
Judaism? What did they feel about you
going to
Judaism?
Uh how did they feel about me going to
Judaism? They they saw it the entire
way.
Uh even even before I I finalized my
conversion, I was having people over for
Shabbat.
They didn't quite know how to keep
Shabbat.
But just from my learnings, I was like
invite people over. Come over Friday
night. Let's let's have a meal. Shabbat
Shalom. And I wasn't even sure what that
even meant.
But I was on that path of learning and
trying to figure it out, but I was open
to, you know what I'm saying? Like to
bring people over and hang out. Uh but
yeah, that was cool. They saw my siddur.
They saw my learnings. They saw my my my
when I talked to them, what I was
saying. All my teammates was like, I
knew he was going to I knew he was going
to go that route, you know? So that's
how it was.
Who was the best teammate you've ever
played with?
The best teammate I ever played with?
He's Nash. He's Nash. He's Nash.
>> [laughter]
>> The best teammate I played with?
Steve Nash.
As a player or as a person?
As a player. As a player.
>> [laughter]
>> And also as a person. Nash was a very
good cool guy. He had exactly. So both.
Do you think doing all the extra
learning and everything made made it
more difficult for you because you were
spending more time? Or made it easier
for you to succeed professionally
[clears throat]
because you were had more meaning or
kind of had your focus?
Uh the learning made it easier for me.
I was I was able to to have a sense of
of calmness
when I played, right from the learning.
Um I had a sense of like
I don't know, tranquility when I played
because of the learnings.
And I slowly start to start to apply my
learnings
within not only my Yeshiva but inside of
my mind and cultivating those thoughts
and these things. And it was helping me
have freedom and fun and joy
with the game
while I played.
How's your back?
My back's stronger than ever.
What's the greater high?
Hitting a buzzer shot or learning a nice
piece of Homashar Gemara?
What what
That's good.
That is good.
I think I think hitting a buzzer shot is
like
it's almost as if like
when I went when I went through my my
conversion process, right? When I went
through my reconnecting process, so like
to call it.
It was uh it was a similar feeling.
Cuz I I went through my reconnection
with
in Bnei Brak.
And you go inside the Beit Din is like
eight rabbis
with the beards as long as rabbis here
is living.
>> [laughter]
>> And with the with the hard questions to
ask and you got to be ready for it. But
that was also once I passed it, it felt
like a buzzer beater shot.
You said that it was a thrill.
You said that
uh at 12 years old your mother
was who inspired you to kind of like go
back to the roots to the learnings of
Moses. Was there a Were you guys raised
in a household that was very religious
or Seventh-day Adventist or something?
Why why the books of Moses? Why not
other books and why specifically that?
Yeah, well I
I was raised in a very religious
household. My mom we would pray. She was
the type of woman that prays and cries
when she prays.
Right? And so it was just I guess her
connection with her prayers and and and
how she dealt with God and her
relationships.
And she wanted to give it over to to to
me and my brother. And I was the one
that took the information and and and
wanted to learn about it.
That's how it started. Was there like a
like a tipping point, a moment where
like why 12? Why not eight or 10 or 16
or 20? Why that specific age? I have no
idea. You got to ask her that question.
I think my brother was my brother was
eight.
I was 11
or 12 or so, somewhere somewhere around
there. I think part of the reason why
I'm asking is because even for people
who are born Jewish and are not really
religious growing up, a lot of them
become more religious
when a parent passes away or something
like that where they have to you know
pray Shacharit, say Kaddish three times
a day. I think that's one of the
defining moments where in their lives of
why they become more religious. I was
curious as to if there was something
similar in in your mother's life at at
your age of 12 that may have led to
something. But you've never asked her
that question.
Yeah, no. I think I became more
religious when I when I moved to Israel.
Um when I first got into Judaism I had a
lot of questions.
And I was I was very curious.
And I was very humble.
And
I didn't take any preconceived notions
when I got into Judaism.
Um and so when I started learning
I think that is that was a turning point
for me.
Is that I start understanding what I'm
learning. I start living up to what I'm
with what what I'm learning.
And they say that the learning when you
apply the learning, that's the wisdom.
Right? And so that's that's kind of
that's how I approached
uh my learnings and that's what was that
was a turning point for me.
One final thing, just a statement. I
think
being a fan of the game and being a fan
of you and watching your game progress
from being thanks and just in general
from start to end
and how you said um
where
you played with a certain calmness. As a
fan
you know, you were ferocious. You know,
starting you were a ferocious animal and
then towards the end you were you were
like poetry in motion. So I think that
as fans noticed that change in your game
as well. So
Yeah, thank you.
What was the reaction you got from your
family and
how was the acceptance and
what was the plan?
Aside from that,
you know, where in my mind you have a
lot of anti-Semitism.
But you're a double minority. So
I mean what was the reaction you got?
Yeah.
I think for me for my family
uh on my father's side of the family
are all Christians basically.
And my uncle was
a pastor in Florida.
And when he saw my learnings and he saw
my dedication
uh this is maybe a month or two months
or so before he passed away
he was like, "Nephew, what you're
learning
is right."
And that was that was a very strong
moment for me because
I was I was doing it because I felt the
urge to.
I wasn't doing it for like any ver- any
verifications or anything. And so my
uncle when he mentioned that to me, he
was very sincere about it.
Um and then shortly after
um
he passed away. I think the learning in
Or Sameach
uh when I got to Or Sameach
the rabbis saw my dedication to Torah.
And they saw that I was really eager to
learn.
And they were
eager to teach. You know, teach how to
read the Siddur. We had private times
with reading the Siddur. That's not a
part of the rabbis' normal day of work.
You know,
and the questions I would ask they see
I'm there with with a notepad, pencil
and pen and highlighters and these
things.
And so it was a beautiful it was a
beautiful connection
uh with the rabbis of Or Sameach.
Um there's always been, you know,
people that don't quite understand the
journey.
Um and I understand their their their
views because at times when I first got
into Judaism, I didn't quite understand
the journey.
But I had a humble approach
to my particular way of learning.
Um and so but over time
it uh you know, as they see the
learning, they see the the the benefits
of of of these things. And then
hopefully that'll help kind of
wean off some of the anti-Semitic uh uh
um
slurs or or attitudes.
Which rabbi was it?
Uh which rabbi was it? Last question,
guys. Last question. Yes. Which rabbi in
Or Sameach inspired your growth and
growth and growth? Which rabbi
specifically
in Or Sameach?
Um man, all of them.
You got to elaborate. Please. I mean
Rabbi Kaplan teaches the the the you
know, the parsha each week.
Rabbi Meiselman teaches the Gemara.
>> [clears throat]
>> Uh Rosh Yeshiva Schiller always gives
us, you know,
uh motivation.
Um you have Rabbi Rabbi Gaffin, you
know, I I mean
Or Sameach or
Breuerwitz, yeah. Breuerwitz also, yeah.
Exactly. Rabbi Breuerwitz is always
there to give over information to help
us with with what it takes to be
mentally prepared for
uh for this new way of living, right?
Or Sameach is great.
We're going to send him to Or Sameach
with Elitzur. Me? Yeah, you. Who was
there with you? Oh, okay.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay, beautiful. Okay. [applause]
Amazing. [cheering]
Thank you.