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the numbers are stunning because it is
not just from people it is third fourth
fifth generation Democrat Trump is
certainly broken out of the gate very
quickly there's no question about it if
this were a horse race he would be
several lengths ahead of the rest of the
field one for long into the
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race welcome to the forecast where four
from pundits talk politics meet the
allstar lineup I'm benam Rose mishak
magazine editor at large I'm Mor litwak
teach Coalition CEO and political
Insider I'm Stu loer longtime Democratic
communication strategist and I'm Ellie
Steinberg conservative
commentator okay so let's get down to
politics all right welcome to the
forecast this is a special postelection
edition for those listeners who've been
following throughout the election
elections are I don't know how else to
explain them sometimes I compare them to
a football game or some sport gend
sometimes it's a marathon sometimes it's
a Sprint it just depends on your analogy
that what you want to use but the game
is over it's very clear after this
election that it was a Red Wave some of
us predicted a red wave I don't think
anyone any of us saw this red typhoon
unprecedented results which we're going
to talk about at the top of the hour I
think what we want to start and do is
that I don't think there's a listener or
someone who cares about politics in
America who is not opining over the last
weeks if you're a republican you're
saying we told you so this is what we
thought was going to happen and we told
you so and if you are a member of the
democratic party you're probably going
one or two ways you're probably even
saying to yourself that this a disaster
and there were warning signs and we have
to fix the warning signs or you saying
look ra won overwhelmingly and then four
years later and then years later you
know see change we saw as we saw and all
that um and so politics is cyclical and
we'll wait our turn and we'll see what
happens so this these some of the
ruminations and other things that are
happening here I for one think that it
is a
I think it's extremely important for the
Democratic party to have sort of a gut
check and figure out what went wrong
what went right Etc and right now I mean
as there's sort of a bipartisan
consensus in American political history
where I think it was MIT McConnell said
elections had consequences Nancy Peli
said something similar as well the
Republicans are Riding High I mean they
won so let's get it and kick it off
right off the bat let's hear from St to
start stew what are your post electric
thoughts as we go around the horn here
so what I think you're right and wrong
Mory I think you are right uh that
politics is cycal 100% of the time when
one party controls all
three houses both houses of Congress and
the White House they end up overplaying
their hand the Democrats have definitely
done it the Republicans have done it uh
even when they only have two parties
even when one when one party only has
two of The Big Three they overplay their
hand so it is absolutely cyclical in
that the Republicans their danger is
doing doing things that are not what
regular Americans want to do but rather
Niche core issues that are important for
the Republican base I'm saying this is a
Democrat do not be overly concerned
about Niche issues uh in a base if you
do you will overplay your hand and there
will be a future look get another second
if I could Mory um disagree with your
idea that nobody saw it coming because I
think listeners to this podcast heard a
lot of what was coming we have talked
about time and time again the importance
of the immigration issue how is the most
powerful issue Donald Trump has I kept
on making fun of him insulting him
pointing out that when he had the chance
to hammer kamla Harris On the Border he
didn't in the debate that was obviously
a de dividing issue and we talked a lot
about split party voting and as it turns
out as you can see in places where the
Democratic Senate candidates over
performed KLA Harris and there are
places where the Republican candidate
underperformed Trump what think voting
is still a real thing b y You' spoken a
lot about this and you've talked about
in your column also which is the idea
that this is not the Democratic party
that that you grew up with is not the
Democratic party that you once witnessed
Etc do you think that's part of what
happened here it's definitely part of
what happened here but I've also talked
about how the Democratic voters have
turned to the left and to the
progressive side of things over the last
few years so I'm not surprised that they
came up with a candidate like kamla
Harris who I don't think was a strong
candidate to begin with and it seems
like they're trying to make some moves
to the center you've heard Gretchen
Whitmer the governor of Michigan who was
a a definite Prospect for 2028 for the
Democrats addressing a pro-israel rally
I'm not sure that that uh momentum is
going to last but it's a move in the
right direction I do want to add one
thing and I did write this in my column
for this week that uh back in
1976 after Watergate Nixon resigned and
Jerry Ford's two mediocre years in the
White House they they had a poll that
showed that only 22% of Americans
identified with the Republican party and
people were talking about the Republican
party was dead four years later guess
what Carter did a lousy job as president
from 76 to 80 for the Democrats and
Ronald Reagan came in and he won 489
electoral votes 1980 so we can't count
but as far as uh the Republicans and
Trump is concerned he's going full force
he is he's in the 16 it took him nine
days to make his first cabinet
appointment uh now I think he's made
about nine cabinet appointments in his
first seven days so he's working faster
he's working harder he's picking people
who uh have the same political ideology
as he does some of his picks are out of
the box Pete Heth for uh secretary of
defense is is is a bit of a heads
scratcher I I like Pete I've interviewed
him here when he's been here uh is he
going to be able to manage a trillion
dollar budget and the whole defense
establishment I'm not sure I think Alise
stefanic is a fantastic pick for un
Ambassador we don't know about Rubio yet
at press time it seems like he's going
to get the nomination but it hasn't been
100% announced by Trump officially he's
making good FS he's working hard and uh
if he accomplishes with the team that
he's putting together what the voters
expect from him uh we might see
something that we don't usually see
normally in uh midterms 2026 we would
expect the Republican the governing
party to lose seats in the Congress that
might not happen they might be able to
increase the lead if they're able to uh
get the agenda going and people like the
way it's going I want to turn over to
Ellie Ellie I I happen to have here with
me my special rosecolor glasses that I
wear depending on whether or not there's
a red wave or not right so there's one
way I can look up it and I could say
okay this is a red wave and everything
is hunky dory the other hand seemingly
there's some more of those there was
Senate splits there were seats that the
Republicans could have won that they
didn't the house is extremely close as
well so you can look at it one way or
you can say to yourself wait a second
from the Republican party's perspective
was this such an overwhelming success
are there trouble is it trouble up ahead
because I know some of those set of
seats they definitely should have won
and some of those House Seats they
should have won as well it shouldn't be
as closed as it is if there truly was a
red weight so I'm I'm just wearing the
different kind of glasses I have Ellie
what do you think yeah I have the same I
think I have the same rosecolor glasses
as you do it's hard not to be um happy
after such a performance I want to say a
few things about this election the first
thing that I think we need to understand
when we see the results of this election
is I heard Ben Dominic say it on uitt he
said this is a buyers remor election
2020 things were things were out of
control in the country generally and
people looked what was in front of them
they had a promise of let's put the
grown-ups back in trou Char and they
went for it did they get the grown-ups
in charge no they didn't get the
grown-ups in charge they got a couple of
years that of kind of insane results um
so that's the first thing the the thing
that Trump has working for him going
forward you know we talk about already
anticipating we're very forward-looking
here on the forecast we're already
looking forward to the midterms even
though he wasn't even sworn in yet but
the thing that he has working for him
which I think previous candidates and
previous presidents did not is Trump's
promises were very unambiguous a lot of
times traditional presidential
candidates come in with sort of this
fluffy touchy feely sort of stuff that
they say they're going to do like
opportunity economy like opportunity
economy you know um and that kind of
thing but it's very hard for them to
turn that into what what it is that
people want Trump promised Mass
deportations there's not a single person
just to pick one thing as an example
probably what's going to be the most
what what you see already the media is
conting on and it's going to be the most
controversial part of his plank he
promised that people know he promised
that and he has no choice but to deliver
it now the second thing that W see has
going for him is that in the midterms
the Senate map very very favorable for
the Republicans of course we all know
two years out it doesn't mean that much
the the last thing I want to say in this
and then we can get to talking about the
cabinet more you know more
specifically we know that K Harris ran a
god- awful campaign we know now a lot of
the stories coming out less interesting
to me the stories you know that she had
a billion dollars and she's ending in
debt and where she spent the money um at
a certain point you know you get to a
certain point you have enough money that
you're you're overspending just because
you have to spend it down do I think
that it's smart to pay Oprah a million
dollars no do I think it's smart to
spend $100,000 on a set for a podcast no
but Stu is right when Stu said that if
kamla Harris would lose the Democrats
will be debating the sizes of the tables
because that's where they're holding now
the Democrats can't figure out which
part they want to you know of of this
debate they want to focus on I want to
divide into three different topics I
want to talk about the Democratic party
and Harris campaign I want to talk about
Trump's first 100 days and then I want
to talk about Jewish voters and some of
the panel things let's kick it off right
at the top with the Harris campaign and
sort of Segway from what Ellie was
talking about I'll kick it off I start
with ban is is did she run a
particularly bad campaign or was it
impossible for any Democrat to beat
Trump in this election which was it I'm
not sure that the campaign was so bad it
certainly wasn't impossible for a
Democrat to beat Trump we see the race
really was close maybe not in the
Electoral College at the end but uh even
in all the swing states that Trump did
win and by the way kudos to Ellie for
predicting a few weeks ago that uh Trump
would win every single swing state my
doubts on one or two of them the race
really was fairly close I I think the
candidate was weak I don't think that
the campaign was so terrible I do think
though that what really harmed Harris
was those first few weeks after well of
the joy and all of the hope and all of
the hype uh out of the democratic
convention that uh she waited weeks to
give any kind of serious interviews and
then when she did uh she fluffed a lot
of them you know everyone talks about
the phrase word salad but it's really
true if you listen to some of the ass's
students she just talked and she didn't
say anything specific or anything
particularly Lucid I think the final
analysis that's what lost the race for
her so bman believes it's it's really
the can at the end of the day and there
could could have been stew I always I
said for a long time that in in I've
never seen a candidate in almost any
election win with 100 days it's
unprecedented so so did you tend to
agree with Benyamin that it's the
candidate do you believe it's the time
frame for the campaign do you believe
another Democrat could have beaten Trump
I believe that existentially it is very
hard for incumbents anywhere I believe
that immigration is a hard issue if
there is a perception that the uh
borders are open and people are coming
here not working not playing by the same
rules as everyone else and getting ahead
that is extremely dangerous perception
student perception I'm being kind and
saying this is a perception the fact
that it the fact that Joe Biden took the
action to close the border in June 3rd I
think it was shows that there was a a in
in addition to all the problems that
incumbents have everywhere the Border
was a particular problem because it
spoke to it spoke against Bill Clinton's
formulation of we are here the people
who work hard and play by the rule that
is a fundamental problem I would also
argue that like I mean we all have nits
to pick I don't like I don't do this
full time I don't really do keans full
time when the Democrats talk about drug
prescription drugs they win houses of
Congress when the Democrats we talked
about a lot of things we did not talk
about $35 insulin all that much it
certainly didn't break through we had
the money to have it break through Ellie
30 seconds Also let's get what what do
you think here which was it was it was
it Harris or was it just she's up
against incumbency she's up against an
impossible scenario and then maybe it's
the Harris biding thing isoss maybe if
it would have been a Nome or Whitmer
someone else it would have been a
different campaign the answer to your
question is yes it was the candidate it
was the campaign it was um you know
what's going on in the entire world but
make no mistake it was a winnable race
um it's not like Trump really is this
Juggernaut who couldn't have been that
thought um but along at any point you
could turn to any single decision and
say oh well was this a decision that
caused to race like demat are trying to
do now like oh if Joe Biden would have
decided not to run free election then
all would have been fine no all wouldn't
have been fine he still had it would
been a messy primary it would have been
a messy primary and messy Democratic
primary like we always did blooded each
other up you can't keep people TCH in
more than three months it should only be
a 90-day race like any I mean we can get
into this like at a later point the
Cress needs to be reformed but at the
point is she did yes she ran an awful
campaign the very smart guy said to me
on Election night to differ brilliant
campaign and not brilliant Campa the
brilliant campaign is the one that wins
and the a r a r who said an important CL
R matter of fact the most cluster of all
people on this podcast Ellie is the one
who said it to me a brilliant campaign
is a winning campaign and a terrible
campaign is a losing campaign and she
ran an awful campaign because she did
not win she did not win correct let's
move to Trump he has a 100 days he has
200 days he has 300 days he has 50 days
how long does he have to enact the
mandates and things like that that he
believes that he has and that is
currently I mean right now it is a sea
change in terms of how he's being
perceived in the media how he's being
talked about Etc Ste how long does he
have before they start talking about the
midterms already and they say hey we're
going to we're I mean the the Democrat
is Democrat Party is the opposition
party now how long does the Trump team
have you think well the was right when
he pointed out how long it took Trump
last time to appoint cabinet members
that was very quick by
standard I don't know if if if you have
SM or not so I want to categorize that
of me Mory and Ellie at least Ellie is
the biggest RV here but getting back to
G getting back look he's already putting
points on the board and the game hasn't
started 100 days we're we are it's not
thanks you will likely have a cabinet
named not even before Thanksgiving but
the week before Thanksgiving usually you
don't have a cabinet members the goal is
to have a Cabinet member before
Thanksgiving he is playing the clock
well he is ready B what do you think you
think you you agree with Ste you think
that he has a lot of time here you think
that it it starts to to shift very
quickly and the scrutiny and the
attention and like again I I tend to
think he doesn't have as much time as
Stu does with this I agree he's playing
the clock well right now but I tend to
think this shifts very quickly and the
Democrats pick themselves to back up and
become the opposition party very quickly
Trump is certainly broken out of the
gauge very quickly there's no question
about it if this were a horse race he
would be several LS ahead of the rest of
the field one furong into the race uh as
far as transition is concerned the 100
days that everybody talks about is
overrated because a smart transition has
several plans they have plans for day
one what the man's going to do at 12:00
when he enters the Oval Office after
this wearing in his is done they'll have
a plan for the first week for the first
10 days for the first month for the
first two months for the first 100 days
then for the next uh uh three months
after that so there are multiple plans
100 day Mark is is a nice thing that's
the idea that okay so uh Congress will
give a president a certain amount of
Grace during that period of time I don't
think that's true anymore I don't think
the public will give any politician any
Grace anymore the politics in the US so
polarized that I don't think they'll
give him one minute or one hour's Grace
to do anything so again as as I said a
moment ago with uh Trump is planning the
transition right he he's got his day one
plan he's got his week one plan month
one plan and uh we're going to see him
rolling it out as quickly as he possibly
can Ellie um yeah I think it's very
different than than eight years ago and
very different from a traditional um
obviously very different traditional um
presidency Trump has time Trump the the
clock is on his side now he's using like
Stu said the clock to his benefit um and
he's you know just pushing things out as
quickly as possible I think things are
very different than they were in the
past um specifically in in the fact is
he's not relying on other people to make
any of these decisions for him I think
he's definitely listening to other
people telling him who he should not
pick he's not Outsourcing who he should
pick so that's why you're not ending up
let's say with Rex Tillerson but you're
ending up with people who he feels
comfortable with and if he made the
decision which he obviously did after
his first you know after the way his
first her went that he wants a cabinet
with of people that he wants around him
he's going to be much quicker to pull
the trigger on who he wants and and
that's very simple the other thing
that's very different is is that last
time around if you remember Trump was
kind of the Insurgent in the Republican
Party he came in a lot of people in the
Senate and even in the house were you
know not quite so sure how they're
supposed to feel about this guy that's
not the case right now Trump owns the
party he um you know whether we could
talk about um leaning into to my
designation as as R here from stu um we
we can debate whether or not this was a
simar a siba um for for those who want
to know that's if it's quisitive or
indicative Trump has remade the Party In
His Image so the the Senate is not going
to hold up his picks we bman referenced
Pete hesketh he probably shouldn't but
he's not going to run into to any any
trouble in the that's a that's a whole
another debate but but the last thing I
want to say just about this about the
media picking up is that the media
hasn't learned the lesson of this
election which is that people don't you
know they're not going to be able to
cause a moral Panic every any anymore
every time they throw their arms up and
say oh my gosh this is what Trump is
doing it's crazy we're all going to die
it's not happening anymore that they're
going crazy about about some of his
piics and people are just strugging
their shoulders and saying no no that's
what you say you know who is Jim aasta
anyway anymore all right so so so I want
to finish with with the Jewish voters
and the Jewish vote in general I put in
my column this week about this study
that was done by Democrat pollster that
I've used previously we did exit polling
on the day of the election then the the
day after the election also we specific
speically were're looking at whether not
not the traditional ex poles which look
at all Jews Across America we were
looking spe looking specifically at
Philadelphia and Pennsylvania which is a
swing area and the New York swing Coral
District to see what Abit of the Jewish
Community actually has in competitive
races and how do they look at it Etc and
the polling was pretty conclusive that
the they voted for Harris at under 50%
and they voted for Trump so that
difference is about six to eight points
depending on the state but seemingly the
Jewish vote is up for grabs now it's
also important to note that I got
attacked immediately for doing it people
saying well you're from and it's
obviously you just got from voters but
that wasn't just a from voter a poll I
mean we we released it like you could
see it's it's it's across multiple parts
of the Jewish community and I think that
the the it seems to me very clear that
that something is happened and something
has shifted post October 7th and there's
a little bit no going back on that and
we talked a lot about if you tune in to
our electri life uh coverage we talked
about what happened in Jackson where
like 90% of the of the community came
out to vote this preing data we have
which I'm sure Ellie will share in other
parts of the community but again not
just in the from Community but beyond
the from Community there's the way that
people are turning out to V and they're
also shifting their vote they're saying
I'm going to vote in the Republican
party or I'm very uncomfortable voting
with parts of the democratic party it
seemed like there's a SE change here and
I just wanted to point it out and talk
about it briefly in just 30 seconds each
and just give people's thoughts on this
let's start with Ellie because I know he
has the data and then go to B and wrap
it up with Stu here yeah I dug into
Lakewood because I also wanted to find
uh a significant sample of from Jews and
see what the numbers would tell us and I
sent it around last night to a few of my
buddies involved in politics more
nationally to see if they can get a read
on like what they guessed the number
would be spoiler alert everybody
underestimated what the margin was and
you can understand that because in the
20 precincts with room yiden um Trump
won by 97% to 2% um the joke was just
paraphrasing old Leno joke you know
we're investigating who the 500 people
were who voted for Harris
um but the the the he he he won with on
22 and change thousand votes he has a
margin of over 21,000 votes I mean from
Community um has has shown I think what
it is that when there's aligned values
and aligned interests will we can vote a
certain way I want to shift over B yel
because I think we going to agree that
the fir Community shifts more to the
right b y I want to talk more about the
Jewish Community overall here what we're
seeing because you looked at these
numbers also b y
I did look at the numbers and I was
impressed with the work that you did and
I think it's very important and if it
hasn't already been conveyed to Trump
and the Trump team it needs to be uh one
of the focuses that I've tried to work
on for many elections here in Israel is
to get a good read on exactly how many
exp Pates there are here in Israel
there's a lot of wild estimat out there
uh anywhere is from 300,000 to 500,000
eligible voters but there are no good
stati SS are no good followup I've
talked to a lot of people about this
over the years and it's something that
really needs to be done we really need
to uh get exact numbers on the American
expit community in Israel and the voting
patterns so if you know anyone who's
willing to put that time and investment
into Israel there you go a call to
action a call to action yeah absolutely
it needs to be done 20 seconds more bam
give us your your final thoughts on this
I want to turn over to St just I'll just
continue on what I was saying before
that just in my own Circle and and I
have Wide Circle we've lived in a lot of
places here in AR Isel we have a lot of
friends and relatives from all walks of
life and from all states and uh I would
say that you know if if I had to take an
informal poll that I think that the
people I know voted in the same
proportion for Trump over Harris like
you saw un like wood I think it's easily
90% for Trump let's do final thoughts
here you know I I reporters called me
about it I said to them that there was a
clear erosion in the Democratic party
within the Jewish vote overall what are
your thoughts B talks about all walks of
life I also looked at your numbers I've
also worked with this pollster on
Democratic campaigns on Mike Bloomberg's
campaign a real Democratic poster who
previously worked for a a leading
Democratic firm before he branched out
his own almost all of his I don't think
he has any Republican clients the
numbers are stunning because it is not
just from people it is people who are
concerned about Israel concerned about
anti- Zim concerned about their future
third fourth fifth generation Dem rat
people whose Grandparents were FDR
Democrats whose parents were Kennedy
Democrats and who were Clinton Democrats
who are voting it it's people who go to
sadar who go to aadar Every PESA oh
every Passover but probably never say
havala because they don't keep shabas
it's not from people only and the
numbers really bear out how it also
Bears out and maybe this should be our
closing thought our last thought
collectively as a team before we broke
for the election was the importance of
Israel not being a one party issue of
Jews letting themselves be taken for
granted by one party or the other we all
agreed Ellie agree that Israel cannot be
a one party issue and we cannot let
Jewish votes and pro-israel votes be
taken for granted by anyone and you
approve that more you've proven that you
cannot take it you proved it for the
Democrats the Republicans which is not
what I was talking about I was talking
about for the Republicans not the
Democrats but you have proven that our
votes matter you have to listen to our
issues the issues that we laid out in
this podcast are the issues that decided
elections in important States so thank
you for our voters thank you for our
listeners thank you and well we'll close
with that I really think that we're very
grateful for everyone who went out to
vote we're very grateful for everyone
who paid attention to that I think
people have been buzzing in Ellie's ear
and B's year and Stu's year and my year
saying something happened within the
Jewish Community the Jewish vote is
election like no other so we're very
grateful for all that and we're very
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