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about the Bas Hali has been sponsored by
the worldwide friends of brisk
Association in honor of the founder of
the dynasty the B
and requesting of everyone to think of
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either listen to the episode or have the
episode play in your ears it's always
fun to explore the history of Jewish
aristocracy and there's none more
exciting than the salic Dynasty and the
basv is generally seen as the founder of
this dynasty B of salic the rabbi in
brisk at the end of the 19th century
although the prominence of the family
precedes him by several Generations but
he was the first really famous world
renowned
solvic world reowned and World respected
Torah leader he was also the first one
to serve as the rabbi of brisk so he
brings together the name solvic with the
city of brisk in fact his biography in
Hebrew uh is
Harish brisk that's the name of the the
title of the book the Harish the first
one of shelis brisk of the uh the brisk
Dynasty and it's by a fellow by the name
of R Kinski who was an interesting
character in his own right he studied in
thisa then he moved with it to Kevon
then he was a student of R cook and then
he moved to the United States he was
involved in theam he moved back to
Israel and he was involved with the mrai
and then he moved back to the United
States but one of the main
accomplishments of this Rim Kinski was
this book that he wrote Harish Lees
brisk about the the
B um and the fact that it was it's a
great biography and it was written in
the early 1980s before the whole genre
of uh rabinal biographies and he
preceded it by quite a few years um and
so the Bas of is one of the early ones
that they actually was a nice biography
written about um and uh I don't think
there's been anything substantial
written about him since then so we need
like a remake or a translation into
English or something of the sort so
unlike his famous uh sons and other
descendants his biography was written
quite uh quite early on relatively early
on as we'll see the Basia had a very
interesting life story and family story
and I'll just mention at the outset that
his son from his third
marriage the youngest son there was a
boy and girl from his third marriage
pesha was the daughter so this his son
his youngest his Ben zakim who was I
think he was born when the Bas was quite
old like 59 or quite old
um is featured in this coming week's
mishak magazine in the four the record
column by Davi Safir and myself and this
the son of the B was one of the more
forgotten figures of the salic dynasty
Sim was born to the B Le later on in his
life to his third wife like I said so he
makes him a half brother of brisker he
was a rabbi in mul in in in Russia and
then he later moved to the United States
he's the first major brisker son of the
Bas of Ley to moved to the United States
was a rabbi in Brooklyn um at the brisk
scho I guess not ironically um so he's
an interesting story and you'll want to
check that out and he's profiled in this
week's mishak magazine so make sure to
pick up your copy so you can read all
about but we're going to focus now on
his father and today the city of brisk
is in bellus near the Polish border and
I've been there with groups several
times even though there's really nothing
to see in brisk the shul is gone the
Yeshiva buildings gone the homes of of
the B bris the brisar are gone even the
cemetery is destroyed there's almost
nothing to see the only thing to
actually see there funnily enough is a
large statue of the only brisk native to
have won a Nobel Prize and that's of
course manam Bean but either way the old
cemetery is partly a parking lot today
and there's a pretty
uh good tradition regarding the reliable
tradition regarding the spot in that
parking lot which is the spot where the
base Hali is buried where when it once
was the cemetery so we've gone to this
parking lot with groups a few times and
paid our respects at the spot in the
parking lot where the base of ley's
final resting place is it's kind of sad
and tragic in away and I really hope
that the situation is rectified sometime
soon that we can actually go to the Bas
of Ley Kev so the B is known um he again
he's but everyone calls him the B
because he's known by the book he
authored response to several volumes he
wrote quite a few others for him as well
um and he named it the Basi and he
himself published it in three stages um
all by him in his own lifetime which was
you know unique and also very different
than his descendants who them for the
most part left their writings in
manuscript and it was uously published
by their children and descendants and
students whereas the basy you know
organized it wrote it and published it
himself he also had several prominent
descendants who were named for him R
including R salic of Wu in Boston and um
including rev barel salic in brisk in
among others there are several
prominent salic is named for the
patriarch of the family so he himself
was named for his paternal grandfather
ofas of salic who is a rabbi in kavna um
his
grandmother um the B's grandmother was
Rel
the daughter ofer making the b a great
grandson
ofer the B's father
was and he had studied inan during the
time
ofer who was obviously his uncle and for
a time uh he served in some sort of
capacity in the Yeshiva later on this
ritv was a prominent Community leader
and even an official
Ram again a zar recognized Rabbi a crown
Rabbi in kavna which is interesting that
the salic had that as well and the B's
mother Rifka was from aidic family leich
leich is the antecedants of the slim
Dynasty so his mother was and his father
was of course a grandson ofer so it's an
interesting and I just want to point out
an interesting note on in the world of
the B though the B and his ancestors and
descendants are all seen as opponents of
they're descendants
ofer as I mentioned the B's mother came
from aidic family the first wife of the
Basi was from aabad kic family the
second wife of the BVI was from a leich
kic family similar to his mother and the
third wife of the bra was from warso so
I'm not sure if she was from iic family
or not but if she's from warso then it's
almost by nature of being from waro it
almost makes you cic so how do we
explain this
phenomena um of of this combination we
don't have to explain it because we let
great Scholars like Professor Marin
vinski explained it instead and what he
said was that unlike conventional wisdom
would have it and nonm rarely refrained
from intermarrying that's somewhat of a
myth they intermarried regularly and
they didn't have any issue with it and
this was for two reasons number one
women were rarely if ever viewed asid as
as active in a court rather they were
known as coming from aidic family a
daughter of Aid a sister of Aid a wife
of Aid which is a whole Topic in its own
Merit which I'm not going to get into
now why was that the case and did did it
hold true throughout the history history
of the kic movement or only through the
19th century that's for another time but
that's the reality and therefore um
there was no issue with intermarriage
fundamentally and number two What
mattered in Aid in Eastern Europe
through the 19th century was three
criteria wealth Yus and Torah or a
credentials those are the only three
things that mattered in the important
families and uh therefore that that you
know if if they had wealth or or Torah
Rabin Scholars and things like that or
even two of the three or possibly even
one of the three if there was enough
wealth then you didn't care if they came
from aidic family or not you had the
important criteria and that's what you
went with so the there there wasn't
really an issue of of intermarriage
between and in this way the salic
brisker the brisker and all the other
ones have plenty of in their supposedly
pure lfish pedigree it's you know it has
plenty ofas there as well which is
probably why they became so great I'm
just kidding around born so the BVI is
born in 1820 he passed away in
1892 um and he most of the 19th century
he came as a child to valan well before
his bar mitzvah and he studied there for
several years remember he's a family
member uh of the of the valan family and
an overlooked short period of his life
not so short it was actually for several
years is is when he went to Minsk um as
a young man in his 20s um Rin tan of
Minsk was a leading Rabbi Riva and Po in
the 19th century and he headed the
prestigious bluna clo Yeshiva in Minsk
very famous Yeshiva which is a story for
another time as well um at some point in
the 1840s tanum had an ex reason to have
an Extended Stay in Germany he was
seeking medical tra treatment for an
ailment and the
Young Sal was invited to deliver shiur
in blumas clo in Minsk in his stad so he
moved to Minsk for several years he then
returned to Bajan and he served as an
assistant rash to his cousin
the Berlin of um the the and this is in
1853 he arrives back and he becomes the
assistant rashash there was a lot of
controver y then who's going to be the
assistant Riva is the NV the one in
charge does he have an assistant who's
that assistant going to beua Hash 11 um
was pushed to the side at this point or
the Bas of Ley comes in I discussed this
whole dispute and this whole Saga at
length and
depth on the series that I did quite
some time ago a couple years ago on the
vajin Yesa it was a whole dispute which
eventually led to the Bas of ley's
departure from valan several years later
you may want to check out out that
episode it was um I would guess number
two or three um on the vagan series but
I may be wrong maybe it was four I don't
remember um it was one of the parts in
the vagan series very interesting story
I'll go through it um just um you know
very quickly here as well but um but
you'll you'll have to go back to here
more in depth on that valan Series in
the interm before I get to the whole
valan story in the interm the Bas Ley
had gotten married and he had a daughter
uh from that first marriage and then he
got divorced um his the marriage did not
work out a second marriage was shortly
afterwards to Ritson sir Ephron from
valan but she even though she grew up in
valan she was from aidic leich family
like I mentioned most of the B's
children were from this marriage
including R and brisker R brisker
actually had an uh an older brother the
oldest son of the B from the second
marriage was Sal and he was a rabbi in
smolin in Russia for 30 years from 1883
till his passing in 1913 the reason
that's noteworthy is that smolin is
outside the pale of settlement and the
Jewish communities outside the pale were
quite unique because you officially were
not allowed to live outside the pale so
who lived outside the pale people who
had money uh people who were more
educated people in the professions
certain types of finishing military
service um long time in the Russian army
by the Zars wealthy more secular some
even assimilated those were the type of
communities outside of the pale and here
the B's oldest son was the rabbi there
for quite some time and that's got to be
an interesting story as well either way
this had a son rabis salvic and he was
later a rabbi in Johannesburg in South
Africa the basic lady had a bunch of
other kids from this second wife another
daughter named rela for his grandmother
his daughter obviously she married a
fellow who was a rabbi in yasi in
Romania so these solo AIC really got
around and very very far from brisk so
as I mentioned the the B slav of ran
from 1853 and on when he returned from
Minsk and he clashes with the NV in
pretty much every area in learning style
and the way they delivered shiur and the
way they related to the students in
policy of the Yeshiva and administration
in acceptance of new students in funding
and budgeting and salaries and control
of the whole institution pretty much
about everything so some students liked
the nav's old style method of study
which was more of a bat style while many
others enjoyed the B sharp and incisive
in-depth style of learning so things
came to a head in the mid 18 1850s and a
rabinal arbitration committee I guess we
could call it because they went out of
their way to say it's not a president
they did not have an odd number of
rabbis they had an even number and they
made it that it's a arbitration Bor you
know
to arbitration basically and they're
convened in valan to decide who would be
in in charge it was in 1856 there were
four rabbis invited to oversee the
proceedings a relatively younger
inspector who did not study inval but he
was already well respected even before
he was the rabbi in Covenant he still
the rabbi in nard at this time two
Senior Living students of rer that's DAV
of Minsk theas
anderer who's obviously the rabbi in
and the
V although the arbitration document
which we have the text of till today
delineated each one's respective
position control Power and even salary
down to the smallest
details re
was granted much more control than when
he arrived in
1853 um regarding acceptance policy uh
spending the Yeshiva money and of course
the salary that he received so although
the NV still had the upper hand but the
B CI came out of the arbitration with a
much more improved position and
relatively much more control so he came
out the winner even though the NV was
still the main rashash Shiva however
despite the fact that he came out the
winner the B was not satisfied with the
arrangement and about 8 years later in
1864 he left valan for good to assume
the rabet in um it isn't clear
what the Catalyst was for his exit at
that time but it seems that in general
he was not satisfied with the valan
arrangement and he was not able to see
eye to eye with the NV on regarding
policy though though though the two of
them got along on a personal level
talking about great people that managed
to uh dispute regarding policy but still
managed to get along um which is a
historical noteworthy because it's so
rare um so there's there's also actually
a story that I it's very often repeated
quite famous story an anecdote regarding
the difference and personality between
the NV and the Basi I call it a tale of
two
saders um about a student in valan who
spent the first seder of pesak at the
nv's home and the second night he spent
at the Bas of Le's home and he described
the two reactions the two different
styles of personalities two different
personalities the NV he said he it was
this
really calm and you know very relaxed
Sor great atmosphere Good Vibes good
energy good environment the matzas were
these big beautiful white matzas and
then NV was just so happy and so excited
to do the Seder and to and to have gone
through it and how look at these
beautiful matzas we're going to get the
Mitzvah of eating matah and so on and he
described it with a lot more color and
detail this student and his Memoir I
forget who it was the second night he
went to the Bas of Ley and the base of
Ley real brisker even though this is
before he was rash and brisk he was very
intense and he was very concerned the
whole time that perhaps the matzas
aren't good and there was these like you
know thin black burnt matzas it meant to
make sure they're very very kosher and
and they whole time they're rushing
maybe we're not going to make the and
whatever and and it was very intense
very very tense very uh the year he said
the year sh of the the B was palpable
you felt that he was living living the
fear of God on his face and his entire
permeated his whole existence and the
Atmosphere by the sers it's two two
different approaches both legitimate I
remember when I was discussing this
story once with my rebbi and the Mir
bash so he said look they're two
different styles they're both uh you
know both legitimate ways of serving
Hashem he said you know as a typical
mirror rash said personally I prefer the
nv's style but that's just him you know
that's that's the mirror for you either
way that's that's that was that inan so
now the B Aly moves to it's a
large and prestigious and ancient Jewish
town with some famous rabbis the B Le
himself was succeeding the
aforementioned
slitzer R Famer who had recently passed
away and remained there and and and and
the Basia remains there for 11 years
until the year
1875 why did the B live leave in 1875 he
didn't exactly get along with the kaha
leadership the wealthy establishment B
Ley was um a strong leader strong
personality he cared for the poor of the
town he was the you know he stood up for
the the the week and the downtrod very
much like his son later on R brisker
their style of leadership and he spoke
his mind and his convictions and he was
not afraid to voice his opinion when he
perceived wrongdoing when he perceived
corruption and the like and he had you
know amazing integrity and and and uh
and truthfulness and he would not uh you
know shy away from confrontation with
the kahal establishment and Leadership
who are the ones who paid a salary
obviously and they showed him the door
when uh and and he was willing to give
up his job basically uh when when when
when things clashed and he felt that
that you know he he would have to
compromise on his values so that's why
he left it's unclear exactly what
it was what the dispute was but it isn't
difficult to imagine that there were
going to be flash points and and
conflict one of the sources I saw
actually said that he protested the
custom of the coppers who were hired by
the kahal to kidnap poor orphan children
for the draft during the Terrible
canonist decrees to the zarus Russian
army and unafraid of of the kahal he
protested against this practice and the
leadership K leadership drove him out of
town this is a fascinating version of
the events because the canonist decrees
ended 20 years before that there were no
canonist decrees in 1875 they ended In
1855 so it would be an amazing story
that 20 years after the canonist decrees
ended he was protesting along aand
abandoned practic practice so other than
this Minor Detail would be a great story
to repeat about the Bas so so why not
you know in any event in 1875 he
officially retired from the rabant and
he moves to Warsaw he was assisted
during this time in Warsaw by the by a
young man named rabich ginski who was
transforming Warsaw religious life he
was building schools he was building
isas was an incredible activist and Le
leader of warsa jury for a century and
he was close with many of the leaders of
his day many of the Torah leaders of his
day as well who published his M Bruin
war and ginski assisted him with that
either way so he was this R ginski was
very close to Bas during his time in
wars and helped him out a lot RIT was
quite well known we go to his Kev
actually in the warsa Jewish cemetery
later on his son Ram ginski was the mash
in slatka and he was killed by the Nazis
allegedly during um the the B's time in
war so he also had a relationship with
theas the GBA it's definitely possible
I'm not 100% sure um and four years
later in
1879 the Bas Alvi is forced out of
retirement and he reluctantly assumes
the rabet in brisk the brisk Community
invited him they rather implored him to
come to fill the void left by the sudden
departure ofu disin who had to leave
because of whole incident whole story
and its own own Merit and Riskin moves
at that time to the land of Israel which
was Ottoman Palestine at the time Andis
becomes a prominent in the old yes in y
that's also a great story so um the B is
invited to succeed him in the rinet in
brisk initially the Bas turned it down
as he was officially done with the rabet
but he was told that the Jewish
community of brisk every individual Jew
there the community as a whole are all
waiting for him in great anticipation so
in deference to to them waiting eagerly
for him he acquiesced and returned to
the rabant although he was reluctant to
do so he thereby created the dynasty
associated with his family name and an
eternal Association of the salivic
family with the city of brisk he served
in brisk until his passing in 1892 and
his passing was shortly after the
closing of the vajan yiva and his son R
brisker who is the assistant Riva to the
NV at the time of the closing the zaris
government expelled the NV and and the
entire faculty from the whole Vila
District the Russian authorities wanted
them out so R had come to live by his
father just a few months before so he
was kind of at the right place at the
right time and was able to succeed his
father in the brisk uh ravinet another
episode from his early years is actually
quite interesting um from his way early
years from when he was in his 20s it
seems that the rasa Ley had either an
interaction or even a an extended
relationship with the great gitan Torah
scholar and pis SCH muger one of the
most prominent rabbis in the world at
the time when the B was a young man and
her muger was already a world-renowned
leader Torah leader it's it sounds odd
why because not only is galitzia very
far from valan and Minsk and far from
the world of valan and Minsk where the
Bas of Ley resided at the time but bro
bro in galitzia where the muger was a
rabbi it was at a different country it
was a different Empire it was not Russia
it was the hapsburg austr Hungarian
Empire so but it seems that they they
knew each other it seems that definitely
knew each other and they interacted and
that the Elder RL muger held his younger
contemporary in high esteem one version
I saw has it that over the course of the
Bas divorce that I mentioned a question
arose regarding the spelling of his name
which was
Yos so do you spell yosha with a shin or
a s and the Basi decided on his own
initiative and expense to travel down to
galala and present this question to
muger in person the latter then invited
him to stay for chabas and even had him
deliver a speech in the shul and bro so
that would be one version of how they
got to know each other the M was also
quite heavily involved in the at the
macro level of rabic leadership of
confronting the challenges facing
Russian jewry which there were many of
those over the course of the 19 century
and the Bas was involved at almost every
stage he was a very prominent on the
rinic scene across Russia the crushing
oppression of the Zars on one hand and
meeting with government officials and
the trends of modernity on the other
hand and change um he foreshadowed the
involvement of his Descendants the
brisker Salo approach of Charisma
Integrity forcefulness no compromising
wisdom sharpness and sometimes even
extremism so he he's definitely the the
father of the Dynasty in many ways um in
leadership and in his style and in this
context he participated in many rabinal
Gatherings and meetings with government
officials and other Jewish leadership
emerging new types of Jewish leadership
at that time and enjoyed that successful
rabinal career um in in in all the
places that he was so this was the Bas
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