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Have to put this on something. Okay. Hallelujah. Hey Dra yeah da da da. Hey la. Yeah. Uh time with time with high. >> So um >> does anyone know where the meaning of started or do you know that it even started? Okay. So, you're saying it started with the >> I don't know. Oh, the Reb just says that that's the >> So, it started with the >> and over the 200 plus years of of our it became formalized during the Reb's time in. And here I want to for a moment I go into explain what that means. Yeshiva which today includes other yeshivas too was the trailblazer for forming kabad minim although during the rebab's time itself and the yeshiva they didn't they didn't think that way and they didn't look at things that way because the overall Jewish world wasn't into Minhogim. Minhogim really started post holocaust both in and in America not only with labage but with other groups as well and minim as you know from the famous regarding the question before which is our meaning I think according to the even though the Rambam I think I think the Rambam writes otherwise anyway there's says first and then >> what >> is the first of the four questions according to the is the is the why do we why do we dip twice tonight right so everyone else says that later and we say it first so the explains this is one explanation explains that it's because to it's it's a minig it's a minig and to show the children that minimum are very important Now this is a very important especially those that have families and children and grandchildren the Jewish nation is as much as it's built on right it's more built on minhagim and if you strip minhagim from the Jewish nation you're left with what we call a robotic Judaism a robotic We do things that's very mechanical. And with that, I will segue to another interesting thing that I had this week, >> just recently without names because of the sensitivity of the matter. and that I received a phone call from a very successful Shiaak >> who is um you know a little younger than I and uh successful >> and he starts off by saying we know each other you know in conversation. He starts off by saying whatever he does is robotic >> robotic and he feels inside a terrible >> because he has a congregation. He has a kabad house and he knows the talk and he knows the game and he knows the answers and he's learned. It's all true. >> You know robotic mechanical. I don't know how you say that in Hebrew. >> Methani robot. >> Robotic robot. >> And and and I've been thinking about this. She's asking me if I have any thoughts about it. So you know the minhogim the minhogim minhogi is a way to overcome >> this >> roboticism this mechanicism where everything is techled tit for tat stand up now sit down bend down bend up you know >> now you know if you say it and you don't explain it then you can really walk away with the wrong message. So it's not important to stand, sit, move. It's all wrong. Everything's important. But the shila the question is where's it coming from? Is it coming from the panemas? It's coming from inside that you're excited about it and you have another opportunity to connect or is it coming from just I was trained this way in yeshiva. I was told by my parents that the community, what are they going to say? You know what I'm saying? What are they going to say if I don't come in with a hat and a jacket and a coat that this that >> almost over? >> But what you say? >> What what I'm saying is you have you have you have one you have a situation that you could either make of it the holiest of the holy or you can say it is or it is ridiculous. And I think that me at times, if not many times, that's what we do in our own in our own lives. We we we either play it up very wholly or we play it down. It's all narish kite. You know, I come from Brooklyn and I encounter >> I live in Burough Park. I don't live in Kanites. I encounter other now the hub of the sassid is in Williamsburg, not Borough Park. the main although over the years sat has many shows and all that. One of the one of the uh outstanding features and I say that uh with quotations around the word outstanding is that they're known for their cynicism. Very cynical. true for >> no I'm I'm I'm art I'm I'm I'm specifying general I would say that's true for many but they have a knack and and without you know now studying them cuz we could study them we have studied them but that's not relevant now but what what I want to bring out for I'm not looking to point my finger at them I'm looking to point my finger at myself where does cynicism come from? Where does cynicism and what is the point of cynicism? And when we when we make light of eh, you know, you really think that by um you know, doing this and that and this thing, this thing, you know, big deal. That's being cynical. At the same time, if you if you if you don't do some things and you feel miserable >> and it causes you to have, you know, causes you to be upset and um ultimately to >> leave, not leave completely, but for where you were to take a what they call a chill out, you know, to the literature a riffion. They have a riffon. >> Oh yeah. >> You know these, right? So these so the question is how do you deal with this? >> And this is very very I don't know I you know I'm older than many of you or all of you and and and and I when this brought this to my attention it it made my head spin because this isn't someone who wasn't you know in this community. is someone who grew up in a kabad family. I know his family it's a solid family what what is happening >> that that that that someone can can feel this way today and I think that the answer uh one of the answers one of the possibilities to avoid this more and more especially today is to emphasize the minhagim and the beauty of minhagim and to understand that It's a a a very dry type of should help us that we should we should first acknowledge to ourselves what is going on inside who we are and from there we can grow outside. >> Beautiful. Hallelujah. I again Hey, let's Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Hey. Hey. Hallelujah. Yeah. Hey. back. again. I am yeah. Hey, I love you. High la. Hallelujah. Yeah. Hey, >> in the there was a mash. His name was That's the way he called him. Merina Bellina was his real name, but they called him because he came still from the time and he lived into the Rashab's time. And there are certain stories that repeat from him that are like, you know, they're not really stories. They're just an insights from his behavior. Listen to this one. So, They once brought him a cup of tea. So he asked, "Where is this water from?" So he they said, "It's from the sama on the table." In Russia, they had a savar. You don't have here but one of the artist paintings more than one that was painted by Zimman you have um the famous painting called the where two are learning the the the and you have a big table and you have two and and the front of the of the of the picture on the picture you see a cat and a hen. And the reason for that is is because the artist was called Hendel Hendel's brother, but it was Hendel Lieberman. >> And his uh his best friend was Gelashkin Raashkin's grandfather, >> who was known as Getel. >> The Yiddish word for a cat is a cat. Ketzel. Katzel. >> So he put on each picture his best buddy himself. He's handle. a a rooster and he also put a cat. You'll take a look next time you'll see that. But anyway, so he has a picture of the sama to learning. And on that picture, you'll see a big it looks like a big barrel, but what it is is called a savar. It's cast iron. Yeah. Yeah. This This is it. This is it. >> It's a hot water. >> Yeah. But but it was very cast iron. It was as heavy very heav right. >> He probably has a at home right now. Yeah. >> Wait wait wait wait. Listen to this. >> So So when they told when they told this they said we got you a cup of hot water from this. He says I'm not drinking it. They asking you're not drinking what you don't think of kosher >> you don't think it's kosher what it is what's the water >> and and tense listen to that said you see the the cleverness of he said I don't drink from something >> that doesn't bend a chinic you you know uh you It's on a fire. You take it off and you you pour like this. It bends over TO A SALAVA IS SO HEAVY. The cast iron you can't bend it over. So you have to put your cup under it. IT STANDS FIRM IN ITS position >> and that's how you get your water. He says I don't drink from anything that doesn't have ble. Achic has ble. It bends itself over. I'll drink from that. BUT IF SOMETHING DOESN'T have BL and it doesn't bend itself over, it's a yes, it's a betas, it's it's an ego, then for that I'm not gonna drink. >> I think this I love this anecdote. >> In life, BL compromise is where it's at. You can be right and you can know all the know all the arguments. You have to have B. You have to give in. What's the number one? What's the number one advice that we give a and au when they get married to lead? Give in TO EACH OTHER. COMPROMISE WITH EACH OTHER. >> WHAT' you say? >> Leave while it's too late. >> Yeah. >> You know what? Shout out. >> You want to you want TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE? >> Sometimes you're right. Sometimes she's right. And the same is true in every aspect of life. So should help us after to why we're going through these steps these 49 steps to have BL more BL and B in this way and and that's what either makes relationships or breaks relationships. people who are successful mediators um you know intermediaries they're able to do I am >> because at the end of the day AS SMART AS YOU are people see through you don't have at the end of the day >> it's garnished it's a gunish it's nothing not in our system of kabad and you're all kabadics you're not s you're not b you're not snugg you're I mean when you spart them maybe but some >> but it's very hard to have cuz I know I was educated I'm I'm studied in this field right what and that's why the philosophies what's the Greek not just Greek philosophies the whole idea of philosophy is see this is not philosophy anyone thinks we call it sometimes philosophy it's not philosophy is you know what means means it's it's messed up CUZ IT'S PLATO ARISTOTLE all those philosophies it's anesh yesesh I I with all of the with all of the genius look at this Aristotle it's a famous say this you must have heard Aristotle was once caught in uncompromised position we'll leave it at that so they came to Aristotle and they said Mr. because everything how is it that you did this? It's not nice. It doesn't make sense. So he said we repeat this many times. So he said BASHAS I DID THIS ACT. I wasn't Aristotle. >> I'm not at that moment. I'm not Aristotle. Is that an answer? Is that an answer? But that's what he's that's I there wasn't there. But that's the would repeat. >> Yeah. Okay. But the is when you claim to be an Aristotle in every aspect of your life and other and your whole approach is based on that then it's an oxymoron. Then it's a steam bay. Then it's a contradiction. When you know you're a weak man, when you know you have indulgences, but be a this or that. >> Oh, yourself. >> Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, um don't worry, it doesn't it go doesn't go to myself. It goes to thousands of people, but that's not relevant now. But so, so >> not a big fan. >> So, the mud is I don't drink from a I drink only from a chic. You can't be mab from a yesesh. You can be mul from a from person who has and that's the answer. People say this that who does he have or not >> tell you another story you like stories. So I was I was I when I came to Barak over 30 years ago so I wanted to uh learn I got into learning about reincarnation now there's a whole and and there's another bloom from the Ariza named the Ariza. So I was looking for a teacher because I learned I learned I didn't learn and here this field is covered really well and it was around it was around 911 so I was giving lectures whatever and it involved some of these inim and I got really into it and and um I was looking for a teacher so I heard that there's there's a a person's aub teacher in borrow park one person at Burough Park and one person at Flatbush. I call up the one of Flatbush. I don't say names, but they call him up and within minutes he he he he's talking down. He's talking down to me. >> I don't know him. I he doesn't know me but you know I I'm asking him about this topic >> and I didn't hang up. I should have but I didn't because you don't have a little menite and you know but total yesesh total yesesh >> then I went to the he he was more of a literature then I went to aid in borrow park and he had and I was able to hear from him and learn from him okay so it's very important okay don't worry listen listen people who want to talk let them talk. Let them talk. It's all right. I'm talking, too. They're talking. >> You know, I'm talking. They're talking. It's all right. >> Trust me. Trust me. >> When I go to aud >> Who gave you this? You just put it up. Somebody gave it to me. >> This is great for cleaning your >> pleas. For cleaning your >> pleasio. >> Okay, we got to say hi. What happened to the wine? >> What? Basically, >> you missed the story from your great grandpa. Nobody mighty. Hey. Hey. I I let it I I I little iO. O I go. I hey I hey I hey I hey I hey I hey I hey I hey I hey I hey I I hey I I I thank you. from in 2001. >> There was a debok story in Deona. >> There's a what? >> A dbook. You know what a duk is? >> A possessed soul. >> So Dolphin decided to track this. >> Yeah. They say that Rabbi uh Wait, WAIT, HOLD ON, MAN. I just said two words. >> Already already story. >> So, so I agree. >> So, THE QUESTION IT WAS VERY CONTROVERSIAL AT THE TIME. >> What are the symptoms? >> The symptoms is what we call schizophrenia. >> Classical schizophrenia. people talk to themselves and things like that. If if I had to, you know, put it into one word, I would say schizophrenia. Anyway, >> say it in five words. >> You know what schizophrenia is? >> Yeah. But schizophrenia is not normal. >> Always talking to yourself. The problem is when you hear them answer. >> Yeah. Anyway. Anyway, so so um so it was very controversial. Some people said it was all made up by by some and others said no. So here the question is and again I was studying the these type of things in because it's mentioned in the concept of of a book a possessed soul it is mentioned and it's mentioned so that means that it's our cab is part of says it's true um so the question is how do we verify that so I flew down to and somehow I I don't remember now how I heard that the person it was a woman cuz there was a video of it and a tape which I had and I saw the exorcism being done in Jerusalem by David Batri not far you know in Jerusalem over there section anyway I uh I I I called her I said I would like to come she says come I'm in the taxi and I get a CALL DON'T COME I don't want any I said you told me to come I'm in a taxi See? Okay, come. So, so I I end up there and she had moved. Not this happened in Deona, but she had moved because of all of the PR and everything was driving her nuts. She moved to Beerba. >> So, um I was there. I come in. It's a mother and a daughter. It was the woman who was uh was possessed with a debuk and her daughter. >> So, what? No, no, ju just just the mother. But the daughter was sitting there and she was a 17 18 year old girl uh you know intelligent girl and what I did was I had to how am I going to verify if if it's MS or not or him to see >> I was going to then report it to a few raim and discuss it. >> This is my field research that I did and um so I played one off the other. That's what I did. I play the daughter of the mother and the mother of the daughter and the kids are um it it it it it seemed to me that it it's endless. It's true that she had some kind of sound coming from her. It was a male's voice. It sounded very you could hear it on the tape very male coming from a female. And remember this is really before the times of the you know >> the movements that we have today you know well a you know so you know all kinds of movements where people change their voices and change their body parts and all that etc. I don't want to go into that now anyway so listen to this. So, so I take back the information and uh I go to I want to bring this out the B that's my trajectory is of the B the from the B. So when I go into him I was there half hour 45 minutes and from the beginning till the end I asked him David how do you know she had how do you know for sure she had a book? So the before I answer he answered me let me tell you the situation was like like a you're on this in the overlay you have a couch here you have and you have carpet you've been I don't know if you've been to but you can go and still till today and and there was like a 100 people in the room and um later I found out that he had people who were against him in the room trying to make fun of him and that they were going to report that he's, you know, that he's it's ridiculous. And what he did was he started with the formal what it says in the kiss you're supposed to do. And he starts talking to the book and he says, "Uh, >> from a different location or he's standing here." Oh, the woman's on the couch. >> You were there. >> No, I saw a video of it there. >> I'm talking to the woman after the fact. What? >> Dang. He's talking to the woman. All right. She was now >> the exorcism took place. So, so um so what happened was she's sitting on the couch. He's talking to her and he says he's talking to him. You're you're you're an abal. >> What's the >> I'm the man. I'm the husband. I'm her husband. >> Husband. husband. Okay. Uh Mat, what are you doing? ALCOHOL. >> He's a He drinks alcohol. He was a alcoholic. >> Yeah. Why are you Why are you here? Why are you possessing this woman that asks her? And um we did an you can imagine what the is okay whatever whatever men and women's issues not relevant what the details are what they like you have to know you have to know this that general >> they want the juicy details >> you want graphic description you'll come privately in my office I'll give you graphic >> you need graphic description now you're not getting it from Anyway, >> what's holding you back? >> They just, you know, >> I'm to say, yeah, on our on our walks are sharpness. >> I'll tell you that's your scar for wheeling me. Anyway, so so then so then says to her, let go. LET GO. LORD, now what what what did what did the debuk say? because it says in the kiss a dip is a soul that doesn't have a place to rest >> and you know the worst thing is homelessness. >> Niss Muel and Rabbi Dr. Rabbi Niss Miguel the survivor is with us still. >> He he always said that in 1945 after the war he was you know he was by Mangallay and Mangallay let him go. He saw Mangallay he mocked him with his own eyes. Anyway, so >> Mang was the >> So yeah, so so he he says that when he came home and he knocked on his own home, his door >> and he was dressed with an SS cuz they didn't have and the clothing put on whatever he had >> her his his uh um aunt slammed the door and was scared. She didn't really know the war ended and and it took him a while to convince her that I'm I'm I'm your your your your nephew. I'm missing your nephew. So he brings out the point which I heard it from him that homelessness is like it's the worst thing even being in in a place of schmutz and dirt andah you have a place. You have a place. Not a nice place. Not a good place. You have a place. But you don't have a place at all. So is that doesn't have a place. It's hoverable. Famous story. The Reb was Miriam Basil. The Reb said, "The Reb said that Miriam Basil was a soul soul hovering for 2,000 years." I remember that famous but the kids. So he said the people told that I found where did he find >> in his in his in his wife? He went inside her and he doesn't want to go out. >> He has a place. He has a home. >> So David says you have to go out. You can't you know and he's speaking like like a you hear a male's voice coming out of a female. Anyway, anyway does the the ritual and then gets up and starts blowing the and says, you know, out and out and out. >> And as he's blowing the >> Okay, as he's blowing the >> story, >> she's you know the story. >> No, no, I said we're adding good. >> Okay, I'm not. As he's blowing the YOU SEE HER ON THE COUCH STARTS shaking and trembling like she has the chills. Mom is moving moving and and everyone's getting scared in the room. They're they're going away. They're going away. She was she was dressed as you know >> and but she's going crazy on THE COUCH LIKE SHE'S having a convulsion. You know what convulsion is? and and all of a sudden she like DROPS JUMPS OFF THE COUCH, FALLS OFF THE COUCH ONTO THE floor and she's laying like lifeless and Abd says the debuk left her >> and it says inel it goes out through your little >> Yeah. And when IT GOES OUT IT MAKES a a shriek cuz it's tight. So it has to go through the says >> why you said leave >> he spoke to him convinced him but he then he blew the set and and it went out >> where did it go >> I don't know where it went to the >> maybe it probably had a tick this was it tick >> this is this so I asked him after hearing this story how do you know that this is this really happened. He says he repeated over I can't prove it to you. How can I prove it to you? >> But I felt that he had I felt he had humility. He was humble. >> But I didn't stop there. So then I went to the mayor who was like a manic for the breast of >> a manic a leader one of the leaders for the breast of and I asked mayor and that's also interesting how I came to his apartment >> anyway not for now so mayor shut him I walked INTO HIS HOUSE SHABAS afternoon everyone was sleeping and I knew this is a good time to get in cuz no one could stop me everyone's taking up the shabish love I walked up the steps second floor KNOCKED ON THE DOOR. HIS daughter opens the the and she says give me she has a few daughters that weren't well. And then I come in and I say the what do you say about the he says there was a but he called it a not a whatever the difference is a strong a weak and there's one other. So my my point is with BL you can accomplish great things. By the way the way that took out the dimple didn't didn't involve blowing didn't involve all these ceremonies. >> What did the rebba do? This is this is the last one for us. >> What year is this? >> Which what year is what? >> 1975. our >> our what the Reb did is he was >> he he spoke positively positively about and he changed the gam from negative to positive >> and then the says the story with the with the person who came to him and he was complaining and the story was that killed they wanted the two the two yen got up and killed Zakaria because he was going to say a prophecy against the Jews and a prophet says a prophecy against the Jews it has to be and they didn't want him to SAY A NEGATIVE PROPHECY AGAINST THE JEWS SO THEY GOT UP AND killed him sobba SAID AND YOU HAVE THE SOUL OF one of those people who killed said that >> and and the said this story to explain what happened what happened we put two and two together that that night the man was close his mother's 10th make us made and told over the story the mur in the air BUT CHANGED THE SHOCK AND THE REBBA SAID THEY'RE writing you letters from all over how can I change the shock 180° and then the reba and and and explain the in other words yeah I did change the >> letter two weeks later >> yes two weeks later right made by didn't and then two weeks later said which is technically 1974. So he said that uh you know that they're made a joke out of it you know like you know they're wasting money on stamps. They're sending me and you know letters and the so so what do we understand? How did the Reb take out the duk? He took it out. He one second. He took it out by speaking positive. Now one more thing the took out a dip in the 1920s or 30s together with with I heard this from Blau the old man blau is not here any longer and he was at told over the story the called him and some and some others and they sat together and they said to heal him. So we have the and they removed the that's the story. So the kind takes it out through regular saying pill takes it out through through being speaking positively on and takes it out in classical capitalistic way through doing the exorcism through the the prayers and that whole ceremony >> what he was a >> yes he was >> and what about >> I I I don't know I didn't have any experience if he took out >> anyway It's not about you know we can think do we have everyone can say this you know he has a book in him it's not it's not a game it's not it's not a game even does do and it's big posters that for all people who are me have mental illness should come to >> are there any stories of in the concentration against what I found is what they call past life regression therapy past life regression where people believe they were in the Holocaust but as far as the books I don't know but but but I do know about um even Stevenson's book and other other talk about that what >> about about this idea of people believe they were the you know they were murdered or spatial position past life regression that's a different that's a different field >> it's a different field no it's it's a different field listen all these things if you take the right way could be unbelievable if you take it the wrong way and it's a very good >> it's a different thing that's a different smelling the not it's it's a evil spirit not it's not it comes to interfere >> what >> the other soul they're looking for and and in other words from this perspective it's not there to hurt it just wants place to stay, but it happens to collide with a normal person who has its own personality. So, it's it's one personality with another personality that's going to say always jump into another person. Um a a people keep an animal. >> Yeah. In my monument speaks about cargo and it speaks it speaks about also in in animals but people can what? No no no no means the reincarnation is the soul cleansing I think Okay. >> This is an already passed away. is okay.