Familiarity With Kashrus - Rabbi Yosef Eisen Shlita

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Brush Rav Hagod Yiddovi. and his who literally stands by throughout all these gaval the gashim even though we're at the tail end of the of a summer but it's so important to be maker and I'm very aware that what I'm saying is only mixed I was planning to say a little bit more rebel but being that you're here ful and only allowed to be malikus who really puts his nephesh to be able to be and certainly among those areas that clal need constant is in one of the ammu hayadus which is the omud of kashis so it's with that that I personally on and on behalf of the grace sibu po but will be listening to be maker the godless of the that does for the GL together. In one of the discussions that I had with Rabbi Bald is that we need a we need a catchphrase. We need a we need a title that strikes interest. You know that's the part of the marketing vibe of in today's d but being that I did not get back to him in enough time he chose his own and he wrote over here new cautious findings okay new conscious findings so I want to I put thought into this but before I share with you what I believe is an incredible fundamental principle that has such a widpread application in in let me just be magderate let me frame it in a in a tora says like this in the hagdoma before Kash the parish of Kashus. In this week's parish of Paris, you're not allowed to harm yourself. You're not allowed to do something which inflicts physical harm to yourself. The bunnel created a perfect body and we have no right even if it's something which we could understand a person inflicting out of absolute misery or a person goes through uh a tragedy and that's how he expresses his grief that the Torah says do and then the Torah says like this Incredibleness. Think about the wants us to be credible. And all of that is to what? is to protect our physical bodies. With this in mind, we can understand so well the pukim and the para that that follows the this pekk because otherwise this pk seems to be so out of place. The tora just finished with no mischan what does it have? What does it have to do with but is a is telling us I care about every single goof that I created by a yiden certainly it's true if I care so much and I explained it to you says you're my kinder You're an amadesh. I chose you. You're my schooler. You're my treasure. If that's descriptions regarding a gof that's here today, gone tomorrow on a sh let's eternity. So cult we can't do something that the toy tells us is going to inflict is going to be an incredible insight into understand what we're going to be speaking about tonight with all of its limitations the bunch cares so much to safeguard what about the noma that's directly affected like through direct infusion and when we're not zy when we're not careful what we eat. So tonight's title let's go to tonight's title. Tonight's title was new kash findings. So let me tell you what I think is the most astounding kash findings that exist that we might not even realize. You know it to me the most spectacular, extraordinary, unusual, all expansive, relevant. You got the point cautious findings, new conscious findings. There are so let me share it with you. You know, did you ever think right did you ever think how many choices today in toughen pi a person has which supermarket you want to go buying in today's in the mountains we just came from the mountains just today every sing from this year to last year how many new supermarkets open from last year to the year before from 10 years ago to now they have enough food to supply Bafra and the third world countries, restaurants, caterers, the amount of travel that we do that provide kosher food, cruises. When was the last time you walked into a a liquor store? Knew there used to be a couple one small section of kosher ones today. You could get lost if somebody in your house is looking for you and you walked into the and you want to choose and select. You get lost there for an hour. The amount of meats and shitas and cuts of meats and and snacks and candies and hotels and ice cream stores, they're endless. The choices are push endless. We could choose. We don't even there's so much that that's there for us to choose. We don't even know what to choose. Now, let me pose a question not only to the ones that are sitting here, but the ones that will eventually, if they listen, I want you to think and provide a loose estimate. How many eeries and stores and caterers and everything that we describe now exist between Borough Park, Flatbush, Queens, Williamsburg, Monroe, Bergenfield, Lakewood, >> five towns that have only a hundred. >> How many? >> 500 >> 500 800 a,000. What does it represent? We leave. The number is astounding. and then go and then figure that out when you go and travel to Chicago or when you go to the west coast or you go to and Florida, you go to Montreal, you go to Toronto exponentially the number is like the toyaka says they stopped counting there's no the counts are as incredible So what what am I driving out? I'm driving out you know what the new cautious findings are. How many people could say that they're familiar with even 10 to 15% or maybe even 20% of non-standard hashkas non-standard the standard is standard everybody knows u k star k oh you know >> co r the big ones you know but what about what comprises 30% to 40% % of Europe of of items that you you don't even know. You pick up snacks, you pick up cookies, you pick up candies, you pick up drinks, you pick up wines, you pick up you pick up chicken, meat, vegetables. Where's familiarity? It's part you to me the the the lack of of familiarity. You don't even know you're talking about new cautious findings. New cautious findings is is how much don't we know now? So you're going to say okay so who says you have to know everything? So who says you have to eat everything? So today I want to be able to address through stories about familiarity. Somebody calls me. Somebody called me on my way up to the mountains on Wednesday night. Last Wednesday night they have in New Jersey this coming Monday night. and he wants to know about Ashkaha. This man should be the prototype of of a shining role model. He's going to a place. It's a local hash. He doesn't know the caterer, but he knows the venue where it's taking place. And you know what he did? He called and I asked him, "Do me a favor. Send me a reminder." He sent me a reminder on the spot that I should call. He called me again today to find out. So what does that tell you? That tells you that he cared about familiarity. He wanted to he just didn't go just go and eat something that he was unfamiliar with and depended on like we said 20 times already to Rabulki's biggest hashka ra Allah essart and everybody's eating there so and not to eat you think not eating is a so you'll say I'll go to a place I won't eat I'll eat before I'll eat before somebody asks you why are you eating? What do you mean? I'm not really sure who the who the cater is. So I'm gonna tell you my I'm gonna tell you my two again that that underscores the importance of thinking of familiarity and how sometimes taking what you think is a position that's a a very admirable position is not so admirable. Rabak was sitting at a table at a flesh event but people didn't didn't know the there were that was sitting there were raonim rashivas and the waiter came over to every one of those women asked them what can I get the rav what could I get the rashasha fish they went Rabbi and he'll say flesh. So somebody obviously was very friendly and turns to him and he said why did why did the rasha what he says and then he explained what he meant. He says, "Did he know him well?" No. But he he knew something about that. Yakov went to go ahead and he made sure to be familiar with what he was eating. And he said, "If I don't eat the flesh, they're going to say failed by the caterer." He says, "How did I know this? I know this misa is because I did the same thing as the others did. And I did not I went to a an affair. I was sitting at a table and I was made the decision not to eat. And somebody next to me asked me, I said, "I'm I'm really not sure about the, you know, the caterer." And it happens when I made that statement. Guess who walked by? The caterer. The gator walked by. And he was so offended. He was so hurt. He said, "You know, this type of behavior ruins my business." He said, "You didn't know why he asked. Why didn't you ask?" He rather opted on doing something which could cause me a loss that people won't eat by my catering event anymore because of you. It was the It was the most on the mark comment that somebody ever made for the sake of being Mahm of going ahead and doing what seemingly is the right thing to do. Familiarity. If you can't eat, you can't eat. And there's no of the person's feeling if they'll be insulted or not. Do better. get a better be more but that's only if you're familiar that's only if you took the time to to become aware and then he told me the rabbi this caterer told me so not only did he point out to me what the lack of familiarity does of what the and the way that is look at things incredible insight from an incredible incredible insight familiarity is something which is very not common people and I'm not talking as I said I'm not referring to the things which are the you do I'm talking the hundreds and thousands of things that are available that are any you do that people don't know I was standing here last year and I told you a misa pella that happened to me in Europe and that was after I did my research and afain in Europe people don't know how much they have to really look and search and and really become familiar. I got a call this past Sunday night. You have to hear this call again emphasizing the familiarity person is taking a cruise. He calls me up. I said, "Wow." I said, "He's calling me up to find out about the cautious of the cruise." Great. That's what taking a cruise. It's expensive cruise. So you you find out. So this what he tells. He says, "Oh," he said, "I want to tell you." I said, "I have something very important to ask you." What is that? What been put to ask me? He heard that this is a type this cruise is a type of a a ship. It's a type of a a vessel that when I open my window or I open up my door or I open up my vent, what the cabin pressure affects the room next to me and it raises the the I I told him, "I have no idea what you're talking about. I have no idea what you're referring to." I said, "Ask somebody that's familiar with that. I have no idea, but what's my point, Rabbi?" I said, "What's my point?" My point is that this guy was was busy and very commendable. Very commendable. He was busy. He didn't want to have any type of an or of of a proabus. Wonderful. But what about the I was waiting for him to ask me about the kasher cruises. Cruises. You talk about familiarity with cruises. Somebody called me up last year and asked me the wife, she said, "My husband went ahead and surprised me. He bought us tickets in a cruise." She said, "What should I do?" She said it's real Isa real very very very up very upkeep lady. So So now already I'm in a tough spot because now I'm wearing two hats because not only am I wearing a hat of telling her my feelings about a cruise which I'll share with you all in a moment. Again, familiarity. It was now domestic issue because the husband surprised his wife, a surprise of a lifetime. And he bought her tickets. He bought themselves tickets to a luxury cruise. Ain't in a in a in a lifetime. And I just said to her, but I called her husband to make sure that he knew that I sort of packaged it in a way where she didn't necessarily call me. I was speaking to her and she told me and I mentioned on my own. I wanted to do it in a way where it wouldn't create an imbalance in the show and bias. And I told them certain things that cruises have multiple kitchens and even if your caterer has one kitchen, it doesn't mean that the waiters are not going around from other kitchens and and everything is like and and I'm not really sure if they lock the kitchens. I don't know if the kitchens are even that are designated to the kosher tour are really controlled. You know we what what did we just finish learning in the what did we just finish now that's what did we we just finished we mamish just finished so so over here you have a kitchen that's that has kin kosher kalem And that kitchen is is worse. It's not only pu, it's pu to all the other kitchens. There's no lock. There's no there's no anything on it. It's the middle of the night when he's they're afraid in middle of the night. People are are strolling the the the ship. So over here, the bottom line is after the cruise, they told me they will never go on a cruise again in their life. They said it was crazy. He said that literally you know we saw that all the kitchens were open to next to each other and the waiters she said that after a day she said I got indigestion for the rest of the five days I couldn't eat familiarity you're going somewhere ask you're going somewhere ask and that is really what's the new cautious findings the new cautious findings are people are not famili familiar and we're talking about I I just said painted a picture of how much is available out there added all the communities add all the venues add all the products how many kosher products are there on the market that don't have the standard that have there could be 20 30% out of what out of hundreds of thousands well over 100 thousand That's a number, Rab said. Whatever you look, however you come to deter, that's a number. 20 30% of over 100,000 is a number. And and and where where is the do people know their standards? Someone told me they're going out to a vacation. One of the that that you thank Kabad that they have minyanim there or else there wouldn't be any minion oh one of these places throughout the United States. So they're going out there people go on vacation and they asked me is a I'm going here is it reliable? I said that's a very wide blanket question reliable. What what are your standards? What do you usually have at home? Like whatas do you use at home? Whatas don't you use at home? Are you only mb only is everything are you mak not that I wasn't selling her any any standards. I was just asking her about her standards. You know what she said? She said I'm embarrassed. I don't know. She says I don't know. She says I don't I know that we just we shop here, we shop that. I don't know what we buy, what we don't buy. I said, what you should do is that a little bit of homework. If you want to know what the status is eating somewhere else, the first thing is your standards. Know your own standards. What are you mockb on? What do you what do you look to be mahada on? What do you look to take into your own home? What? What are your I'll give you today. I had a misa my own wife called me. She went to a store in the mountains and she's picking up some salads. Now today, Asha, we talk about standards. this week's para and it's spelled out in paradosim very clearly about the standards of kashis about the sukim on how we have to be mockbid and all of a sudden she asked me which of these two salad should I buy and it's auction diary because now there are many companies of but it happens to be that as the companies see that they do well in business so more say one second it's a good business opportunity let me open up my own new salad and get ashka and show so before I answer you before I share with you what I told her I want to share with you another nuda familiarity standards. What are your standards? What are your standards on on bishop is you buy anything as long as it says that from any in Europe is anywhere like it just just it just has to have Hebrew lettering. It's something to think about. What are your standards? As every single year, just go to the supermarket an hour in where I go. Give a shout out shout out for White House Estates in Hurleyville. There's a small concession. And every single year, as little as the concession is, those shelves get more packed and packed because one of the great things there when the, you know, when people come and have bring little kids, they tell them to the biggest pleasures, go to the concession, put it on a bill. He says it has to be over a certain age because parents don't know about it. Anyway, every single year they have new things. This year we saw a candy with a flashlight. like I don't know exactly what the maybe is is the parents examine the cavities after you eat the after you eat the candy. So maybe that's a very good combination of this gooey sticky type of candy with a flashlight at the end. Well, my point is is that and who was Ashk? could be EuropeanK and I'm sure is good but then again if it's not a person that's a Yor like we have running our concession he doesn't know he doesn't know so here you have a complete and total explosion of so many things and what do we know we don't know even sometimes our basic standards But before we continue and talk about standards and what those standards should in include and what you should be looking at let's talk about another nakuda and this to me is the biggest the biggest new findings in kash and this is the question do we have ambitions to do better a very fair question. I think as as we grow older, we always have ambitions as as the days of are literally on our footstep on a doorstep Sunday night of contemplation of thinking what's the first and foremost thought of a person that's a serious hashem as the year ends am I thinking of maybe doing a little bit better maybe a little bit better in my learning a little bit better my maybe a little bit better my daffening maybe a little bit better in my something something you're going to come to the aish that was saying you know anyone successful has ambitions one of my children told me today that he knows somebody that is working in now there's a very big field called ABA it's it's an educational field providing services and somebody told me, oh, his friend now he was hired for marketing and he went over to his the owner of the companies and said, you know what, could you give me the opportunity to get involved in operations and I said I said motion why did the guy do that? He said because marketing only has limited growth and if you get involved in operations and overseeing which means billing and and just making sure that everybody is doing their job and reaching out and whatever operations include operations provide more of an opportunity. So I said that's real, you know. I said that's great. And he said, and obviously guy can't ask for more money because he's asking for more responsibility, okay, I'm more responsible, got more money. That doesn't go that way. But a guy, he said, a guy goes ahead and says and and and projects himself as being ambitious. So obviously, and he and he does well and he succeeds. So you recognize the fellow's motivation and ambition and enthusiasm about his job and he grows from that way. That's a double portion. That's like in every industry, whether you grow in the medical industry, in the legal industry, in the in the finance industry, whatever it is, in the industry, whatever it is, you start off as one thing and then you get put up as a as the system. It's all about living with a a vision, a vision of ambition. And to me, Rabo say this is the biggest finding in Kash. How much ambition do we have in making sure that what defines us as and how much ambition do we have? Whether it has to do with theas that we eat, whether it has to do with the to with the inon in produce that we eat or general foods and snacks and beverages or the hotels that we go to or the catering events that we attend, how much ambition do we have and how much do we talk about it? How much do we project it? This is what I'm talking about. And that's the whole connection of of knowing familiarity standards because all those things emerge as a result that I want to know. I want to find out. I want to be assured. I want to make sure that the most direct thing that we do, the most direct item that we engage in which is the consumption of food. As the gar says, If and the makes if that's by the negative what about the positive it's not it's not equal. A little bit of effort yields a lot of this is what the this is what I'm talking about. I'm talking about there's so much out there. There's so much that we could do and find out. I could tell you one thing what I back to what I began with the explosion of the kosher market of the kosher market of the kosher market that we patronize. I could tell you that one thing the amii the operators are very ambitious. Think about this. They are so ambitious. They are so driven. They are so passionate that they they they just they find it. Okay, we have an opportunity. Another supermarket, another another traveling venue, another catering, another takeout, another this, another that. What? Why am I saying something which is because go look and see from how many more stores there are. If people wouldn't be ambitious about earning money and making money, you would have a depletion and a decrease of very significant numbers. Yes, some of them fail. I'm very sorry but there there's so much your head spins because everybody feels that they could do better. So how do you do better? H how how does one express their ambition? How does one begin familiarity? How does one create standards? Somebody just asked me a complicated Shiloh with Yura Hilov. They have somebody go you ask a sh. What about if a person has a very tough tax issue? Who are they going to for guidance? Some some guy that just finished college or a guy's in business for 20 years that's known as a tax guru. Who are you going to get medical advice from? Somebody loyal lenu has to do a procedure. He's going to some hospital somewhere in bed sty or he's going to HSS in the city. Where's he going? Where is he go? Where in the world is he going to? Where is a guy that needs legal advice going to? to a guy to an Italian small office somewhere with one man working and he's a secretary and he's a and he's a are you going to a real law firm when you have an issue? So who are you going to to address the most fundamental issue in a Yid's life and that's what they eat? You go and you find a RV and if the RV doesn't know the RV could find out and he is the one he is the be the director and you sit down with him you say RV you know what I was thinking about it I need guidance I need guidance in things which we take for granted but there's so much out there my head is spinning every single time I think you know the market is limited it keeps on expanding and growing and and mushrooming viter inviteran show me show me the dera I want to succeed show me how to grow my family in in these and and and there are there are answers because if a person is aware you know what in the beginning of the summer there was a terrible terrible infestation in one of the companies making vegetables, pre-washed vegetables and there was a very big response among the conscious agencies. Now this one particular thing could have had the problem because the raam masher although he's an expert isn't necessarily not not known as an expert in other things he is but not in because it's a very spec it's as a specialty remember you're not going to a foot doctor when a person like Elenu has a card a cardiac issue you're not nor are you going to a cardiac expert when you have a vascular issue. You're going to a vascular person. You're going to a cardiologist. So not every single person is a buck in all in especially when it has to do with things which are very documented cuz that's what are and there's a world there's a world of kash which is easily accessible if you go to who could call and then you get the information he knows who to call. I got a call tonight from a from a Raven Flatbush who literally I was eating and it was after a long ride. I was in the car between all my driving today with 4 and 1/2 hours and I sat down and and I was eating and he called me. I said, "Let me finish eating." And then I said, "No, I'm not going to finish eating. Let me let me answer him because he wants to eat. He doesn't go anywhere without he calls me he says uh um I'm here no what do you think he he constantly ambitious familiarity asking about standards you could rest assure that his kahila who was a very cautious achilan flapush hears it from thereof that talks about this cuz he's always asking and I answered him. So my wife calls me about these salads and I said could you tell me I have two in front of me tell me of both of them. She says oneka f the second I said do the first why because the second one was a salad. Now, I'm sure he fixed the problem, but the problem was so so extreme that I became a little bit weary or my what's my point? Not saying to say that it's not good, but the other ones didn't have that issue or problem. The only way that you know about this is if you're what does a Tory say this we learn out of the from this week's par we have we have this tells us that we have by by we learn about that right we do you know what the Torah is teaching us a lesson just don't make a decision This is what happened. You learn you learn from the para of kasher there's the of and in the there are of about the details of about how much you have to about how much what a sak has to look like all of these things we are in a a nation of details We are a nation of what are the new kashu findings? They ought to be to go back to the basics to just be kind of yadas. And you know what happens after a while? You ask a sh then you ask a second child, third child, fourth child, three months go by, a half a year goes by, nine months go by, a year goes by. You would you'll be astounded of how much when you're focused on processing the information how much now you became familiar through the questions that you have asked a dove repella that's what it is. So getting back you want to be ambitious to me which is the the the biggest then you need to find a very practical mahalik you ask shas ina in why aren't we asking your Jame r why are you asking me shilus of of things which might be much more basic than even that this is the new finding the new finding is we need to find this but but I want to as we're coming to a conclusion of this of this class I I want to talk about something else I want to talk about we said we spoke about three things tonight and if we put them into a ghet and if we define them and we identify them and I and I the ma then we're walking out with something we spoke about the concept of familiarity familiarity with what you're eating where you're eating the hashk that you're eating from familiarity basic and being kind of the most basic of basic we just spoke about the concept cept of stiging, of advancing, of wanting more, of being more scrupulous, of being more focused on doing as best as we can. Ambition, ambition in RNA. Ambition just like our entire communities from communities have such successful people. Where does their success states of the success is all crowned by the aishas brought them for them to be successful? But there's an inner drive and passion and enthusiasm and motivation and yes ambition. They have ambition to do well, to succeed, to expand, to be mar. Why isn't there also such ambition when it comes to the most basic thing that we do more than anything and that's eat the only thing that we do more than eat is two things even sleep must probably if you count the amount of time especially shabosim is probably eat more than we sleep unless you do bagels right I don't mean eating bagels 12 hours sleep marathon but also the only that we do more is breathe because we breathe when we're sleeping other than that eating hands down hands down but I want to conclude with something which is so negat and that's we speak about standards speaking about standards your own standards like I said to you the with the woman that that simply you know was asked asked, "What are your standards?" And she said, "I'm embarrassed to tell you I don't know. I don't know." So now establishing your own standards. But what about establishing standards when you are now in a position to have other people eat from the food that you're serving them? I'm not talking about in your house. How about out your house? How about you make a a kish for a yard site? How about if you make an offer? How about if you make a barit? How about if you're invited to a shra? How about if you're invite any type of a suda? You're making a suda. You're making a mash. Wow, what an accomplishment. And he inviting 100 people and he hiring a caterer. Don't you bear some >> standards. You may maybe your own standards. Maybe your own standards are not as high, but there's standard. There's a ra that are eating from your hands. What about that musk? And that's why I want to tell you there is an organization umbrella organization called ACO associated kosher an associated kosher organizers right ACO and they are they have an umbrella of hundreds of hashk hundreds. Now they have initiated something incredible in order to be able to standards that could work for the Ruba of our community. They have a system where they go into camps right now camps ended or they're ending next couple of days. They review the kitchens. Right now there's a major push a major push for shooles throughout the entire country to be able that in your own kitchens in your own shoos that not talking about a shool that has a 2 x two kitchen but a shool that has a warmer and a oven and a to to have some type of oversight standards and they're working with raonum we speak about raon we speak about raonum where the rabbon are the ones that make the choice of what standards they feel comfortable for their own sra. But the point is is that what you as a individual making the so to speak the party the event what are you bearing bear big I want to tell you years ago more than 10 years ago maybe 15 years ago I was asked to come to my own yeshiva Shivaas at the request of the administration and they asked me could you go through the kitchen now you understand that n yeshiva yeshivas moistus they are the palton it's there that is so sometimes and this was 15 more than 15 years ago. And there was a a stark revelation that without even realizing who's in control of the kitchen, there's a from cook, right? But the from cook stays till 10:00 to clean the kitchen, right? He stays till 10:00 to clean the kitchen when he is in yeshiva at the crack of dawn at 5 in the morning. And and I'm not talking about one yeshiva. talking about across the board. Who who runs the kitchen? Who's the what? What do they have? They have total and complete control until it was changed. one yeshiva after the other yeshiva 15 years ago because they were went ahead and made literally misus map the the big yeshivas in in the flatbush all did a concurrent ma the meerlinas the three big they all have on what the and it was a double portion I spoke to him I said is it you're talking that the politan Melik that's how I that's how I ter termed it is it you're talking that the pit shmelik should not have the greatest but you know what if you don't feel that standards but then they they right how could a kitchen the keys are not they had to do the very painful thing the most difficult thing is to take a gria that's been in a yeshiva and a moid for decades. You trust him with everything because he is timehonored proven his dedication and devotion and you say, "Sorry, I need the keys." The keys, rabbi, the keys. What do you think I'm going to do in the kitchen? I need the keys. I need the keys. You can't have the keys. That is the most difficult thing to do. But now we just finished the wow. What say about that? Just it's a it's a contrived of the agencies. Look in the gumaras. Look in the sugam there. There's so much there's so much discussion like like toy is endless. There's so much discussion about everything. Mameish big discussions. I was I was when I was learning I was I looking at some of the and Rashi does aum at the end of Rashi does a bigum of the sus about the go having not having that sits there not sitting there the these are all this is this is what we're talking about so I I want to summarize I want to summarize tonight the stories are are there. Stories are there. It's up to us. We could have more familiarity whether it's in anything. You go and buy wine. You like wine for shabas, you have to make a choice of wine. So if something has a standard, so then there's no question. But what about the as I said before the 20 30% of wine that doesn't or rather the wine that's coming from Europe that you're not familiarity are you familiar with dashkus this is the new conscious findings new conscious findings is the lack of familiarity the lack of even knowing your own standards and yes the iick is the ambition and that your RV could help you. No different than Y doesn't only deal with. He deals with with giving practical giving you because many of these things you want to do better sometimes you need and how to navigate it, how to balance it. This is what we're saying. As the time is marching gone, as everything becomes so much more available, as the choices become so much out there that they could spin your head, you don't know where to go, where to look, where to go. You get lost back to basics to say, "Am I grabbing something off the shelf? Am I attending a sim? Am I going on a vacation? Am I going into a hotel without being familiar with the many different standards? Let me conclude and if there's any questions we'll take questions. At the end at the end the Rambam writes after 17 proim in Hilkas Maksurus. The Rambam covers all in Yonim of Assurus that are covered in the whole Ya. The Rambam says the Rambam we know does not employ poetics. The Rambam everything is steeped and based on andasm such an interesting. What does that mean? Yes. You know what it means? That sometimes you have to abstain. Sometimes the answer is mckenish. You can't when you are confronted with that when you abstain when you employ the tinus arriv like the rau brings down and you abstain. That's what the raam means. You're abstaining. You're not having it. Why? Because you're nesttopic. You're not sure. This is what is a This is what wouldn't we do to bring our families on a on a higher dar bring our guests on a higher dar. This is what we're talking about. We're talking about many different standards. I'm just going to give you just one other angle. Even in our own kitchens, how much of our recent equipment, which this should be a sheer bayatimo, how much of the equipment that has been now developed over the last 10 years creates such profound problems with Bishakam. Profound problems, familiarity, your own standards, your ambition of what you want to accomplish. Those were the three We should be in that in that the more that we we're the more that we're the more we're the more that we're and if there's any questions we'll take a yes >> why is less >> it could have issues But the the question was why is fish less of an issue than meat? The truth of the matter is >> I'm eating fish. >> Okay. Why is it less than why is it less of a problem? Because fish doesn't involve fish doesn't involve milika. fish doesn't involve many of the halis that are brought down in the very the first more than 20 simony in the beginning of ya fish just doesn't involve it if you go to the fish there before we start there areas of fish sim fish but they aren't they're very limited it doesn't mean that it's problem free but it's much less complicated Because you don't have to know the you don't have to know the you don't there there's so many different parts that are absent from the cautious of fish and therefore the opting on having fish doesn't necessarily avoid all the problems but it avoids a very great portion of the problems. Any other questions? Well otherwise we'll d Yes. What's the best way to clean vegetables? >> Oh, that's a very the best way to clean vegetables. I could humbly give you ideas to which to go to the websites that are recommended to look at and you could see the question was what's the best way to check vegetables? I do want to tell you there are websites out there that give you a very good base to understand to familiarize you with the problems with the type of insects. Somebody came to me and asked me that they that they don't understand they I because I told them that recently I came into I bought something in Walmart and it was infested with insects. Somebody tells me you know what rabbi I'm telling you I've been checking romaine lettuce for years and years and never found a problem. So I first of all like said oh I said that you know maybe you don't know what the insects look like and if that's the case you could be living in a world of bliss. You don't even see them because they're very small. They're very, very small. And this is again, if you learn how to check vegetables, then what happens is that I was just in my house on Monday and there was somebody there was a uh there was a young a young girl in the house and I was checking lettuce and I saw two aphids and I brought her over and I said, "Take a look at that." And then I took the second piece of letter said find it. She found it familiarity standards. So that's you could find it on the OU website on the CIC website under many different websites all have different instructions on how to check vegetables. There are local they're local also that that have instructions. We have an instruction. And we have a very good website, a very comprehensive website in the vicious five towns. But there are ways to familiarize. Yes, the beginning is go on go on the website. Go on the OU website, go on the go on the star website. Go on the CC website. They're very expansive. They give you a bigger site. Somebody asks me, "What could I do about slurpies? What could I do about Starbucks? What could I do about all these things?" Lisa, right? Coffee. All these things are hala. What do I do about all these things? I said, you want to know familiarity? Understand what you talk? Understand what the shyus are in drinking a coffee in Starbucks. Understand the shyness that exist when you go into a 7-Eleven to want to buy slush. How do you familiarize yourself? Go on to these very aera websites. the CRC, the STARK, the OU, they will you they have articles on it. They tell you what the what the issues are. They tell you what their suggestion is on how to get around the problems. If this could get around the problems, this is the point I'm saying. There's so much out there and there's so much information being furnished to Clusel. You just have to tap into it. You have to familiarize yourself. You have to set yourself up and say, "Okay, now I'm going to set standards. Am I going to allow my family to do this or not to do this? Am I going to allow them to drink coffee or not to drink coffee? How do you know? How do you know what to do? By having the ambition of taking the time, researching it, going on the website and after all of that, you don't still don't understand it. Get yourself a Rebby. Get yourself somebody that can answer you, a professional that can answer those questions. It's all a matter of let of of being the of making the effort of placing of investing in and remember should just see our intentions. and be matz and always infuse us with that with that. Thank you very much for listening. Good night. >> I forgot about want drinking. You know you'll hit him up. Shame agency retire like to give a big shak to the formative from the board members of agency retire for sponsoring tonight is sponsoring one of the many next week in the last week of the summer program worldwide throughout throughout the year light of our recent dinner on Monday. 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