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Rabbi Kalish
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In Musar, in Musar there's a there's a
principle in Musar you have your straw
basic
I would say in a in a Musar Yeshiva I
grew up by a by a rebbe, a giant of a
person.
A person who had from the biggest
influences in my life. Somebody was
about Musar,
brilliant person
a sophisticated, intelligent,
thoughtful, giant of a human being.
And he's rooted in the Musar movement.
To talk about my rebbe, I could talk a
lot about him.
His story of Musar is a very cool story
this
My rebbe grew up, his father was his
rebbe, his father was a tzaddik. I was
zocheh to have seen my eyes, I saw his
father. His father was a Slabodka talmid
who was a rav in a community of Yidden
that were very distant.
Not in love with the word, we wouldn't
call them from Yidden, they were very
say distant distant clothes, they were
beautiful Yidden, but they were Yidden
who didn't know about all the beauty of
Yiddishkeit.
And
and he was he was a rav of this
community, a Yid at tzaddik himself. My
rebbe wrote a book about his father to
Kasei Med Haslad, a wonderful sefer, a
beautiful book about his father and the
gadlus of his father, very interesting
book.
In the book he doesn't have one miracle
story about his father, zero. There's
like it's it's a
it's not like
it's a cold solid sefer many You guys
have seen that the sefer you see my
shishis in the sefer, it's in the house.
You wouldn't believe it.
It's a Kasei Med Haslad.
But it's there's no miracle story. I
spoke to the Rosh Yeshiva of Scranton
Yeshiva who grew up by my rebbe's
father's house, by his table. He grew up
in that community. And I asked him for
some stories behind my rebbe's father. I
asked him for stories. So he said, "I'll
only tell you on condition you don't
tell your rebbe that I'm telling you
these stories."
And he told me some crazy stories, like
crazy. He said he was in the moment
beneath him. But he said, "Don't tell
your father you don't tell your rebbe he
doesn't like miracle stories." So I
never told him. I never told him the
story. I never ran the stories by him
that I heard. And it's funny you're
writing a book it would be much more
gishmakt to include the miracle stories.
The book would definitely be a better
seller.
But anyway, he had his father as the
rebbe.
Then he met Reb Aaron Kotler.
His father actually introduced him when
he was 13 to Reb Aaron Kotler.
And this American kid, my rebbe grew up
in America,
and he meets Reb Aaron Kotler, meets a
giant Reb Aaron Kotler.
And he becomes extremely close to Reb
Aaron. Like I've heard from talmidim who
were there, extremely Reb Aaron was
mikarev him a lot. And he developed this
close kesher to this prior giant Reb
Aaron.
And and one was able to see his whole
life, his his his chesed and Torah, his
eemunah and Torah, his rebbe Reb Aaron.
And then he did something so
interesting, he got married. That's
interesting enough. Then he did
something else, he took on another
rebbe. Now somebody had clearly had a
good machalah chaim.
He was by He was by his father, he had a
whole mesorah of Slabodka, Gadol
Mesoadam. My rebbe respected human
beings.
The mailman, I have pictures in my mind
a simple my rebbe was mechabed like
no other.
Not just mechabed, he wanted
[clears throat] to like learn from them.
The mailman, the policeman, these are
interactions. I'm picturing specific
interactions with these with with the
people I just mentioned. The way he
interacted, he had a curiosity and would
ask the guy questions to like know about
things. Yesterday morning here, there
was a Roto-Rooter guy.
It's hush that my rebbe would have gone
up to him. I've seen scenes like this to
like ask him about his trade and to to
like learn from this person. He would
have been mekhabed him like and you
could see a person. That was like all
from his father who was mekhabed people.
And the yid, forget about like naira,
yid was a big thing by him. My by my
rebbe, by shalah shudis, was the most
interesting group of yidden would come
every week. It's a very small crowd. I
tried never to miss the years of my life
and it was a very eclectic. It's not
this big shalah shudis guy. He was
speaking to interesting yidden.
Old yid from Russia that know background
in Torah.
Like an interesting yid from here and
from there. He was very mekhabed yidden.
And this was from his father. And then
the limud haTorah of Aaron, the gadlus
haTorah, the cheshek haTorah, and many
other things from Rav Aaron.
And then like again, I wasn't there. I
can only from the rebbe I met see what
happened.
He took on another rebbe, which is
remarkable. I don't know too many people
who their wives' grandfather becomes
their rebbe. He became his rebbe of Rav
Rav Rav Avraham Yeshaya became his rebbe
muvhak.
To the point that the yeshiva he started
is named Derech Eitz Chaim. Eitz Chaim
is Avraham Avinu. And Eitz Chaim my
rebbe said is Avraham Yeshaya Tuvia
Navardik. He named his yeshiva after his
next rebbe, which is a remarkable thing.
You know a lot and you're plugged in and
you have a mahalekh chaim.
But but a person who was constantly
willing to grow and add, he took on a
new rebbe from Yasin and he told us much
about his relationship. When Rav Avraham
Yasin was nifter, his wife's
grandfather, who was the son of the Lord
of the Alter of Novardok, Rav Avraham
Yasin's son-in-law, Rav Leib Nekritz,
became his next rebbe.
And he was very mekurev to Rav Leib
Nekritz, had a very strong kesher to Rav
Leib Nekritz.
And he was very plugged in. Rav Hamish
very plugged in to to Rav Nekritz. He
would call him and Rav Nekritz spoke
over Shabbos, he didn't want to miss his
drashos. They lived in different cities,
Rav Nekritz lived in Brooklyn, my rebbe
lived in Far Rockaway.
So Motzei Shabbos he would call his
rebbe, what did you say over the right
after Shabbos? He'd make Havdalah, then
he'd call his father-in-law, what did
you say? What did what what a topic he
say? And he'd listen over like to the
speech that he missed on Shabbos. He
wanted to hear and he'd give him over
every Motzei Shabbos the drasha. Such
was his kesher to his next rebbe.
When he was alive, I never said this
part of the story
in in in respect to my rebbe, he didn't
like miracle stories and had reasons for
it. But if l'acher misah then there's
different minhagim, I said over I said
over him he always called his Rav Leib
Nekritz Motzei Shabbos every week.
Tatti, what did you say? Tatti, what did
you say? The week my rebbe had a gunman
in the house and my rebbe beat up the
gunman, the story is yadua. That week
that the gunman broke in his house,
right after Havdalah, instead of him
calling his father-in-law, the family,
I've heard this from the family exact
with details, his father-in-law called
him right after Shabbos. He was like
surprised, he said and his father-in-law
said, "Is everybody okay?"
So he said, "Why are you asking?" So he
said, "In the middle of the night, the
pasuk that Hashem protects his
Hashem protects those he loves came to
me and I knew something happened to
Rebbe Akiva. He called to make sure he's
okay. Call first.
Yeah, yeah. It's true. That's true.
That's it.
That's the fact that we're allowed to
say it. So,
me and Chaim, okay. That's why I say it
over now. When he was alive, I didn't
want to say I don't think the family
would say that much when he was alive.
You know, he didn't like those type of
Yeah, yeah.
The kids are
I shouldn't say the kids. When you're
going so long and I say the kids here,
it's the
The long story is is that his
father-in-law, his new Reb Rebbe Akiva,
his father-in-law, his grandfather gave
a world of mussar and taught my Rebbe a
world of mussar.
In the world of mussar and I was raised
by my Rebbe, I grew up as a little kid
running around next to him and I
was to a close kashrus to a Rebbe who
was a tremendous baal mussar.
And they're remarkable. That movement
started Rebbe Yisrael Salanter and this
was one wing and a branch of that
movement, an incredible movement of of
of honesty, of self-examination,
self-awareness. A big principle in that
world was daas atzmo, to want to know
oneself. To be honest, to know yourself.
It's a principle that's huge. It's a
danger when somebody completely is a
stranger to self and doesn't know
oneself and there's a whole sugia in the
world of mussar of self-awareness.
Mamash to know yourself. Mamash.
In Yeshiva, like we talk even the
enneagram. I don't care about the
enneagram per se.
It's one system that's gradual has a lot
of truth to it. A lot of a lot of
There's a lot of truth there.
But I don't care per se about that. I
care about a world of self-awareness. A
person is quite to me, it's very
dangerous a person's not self-aware.
It's very dangerous. There's There's
tremendous dangers. I think being aware
of oneself, I think.
basic and my rebbe had a tremendous
understanding of himself and
understanding of people.
I felt in my life in his presence
you I felt that he momish knew me.
Momish, like because he was studied and
understood people, he had an awareness
to people that was really remarkable.
That's that's a sugya of self-awareness.
And that's what mussar one of a big
thing a big yesod of mussar
the examples in Rebbi Yisrael's own life
were examples of self-awareness and and
that that was a big principle of mussar.
The yeshiva certainly is
was founded on a lot of principles. My
rebbe is one of the founders of the
yeshiva.
And certainly a principle in yeshiva,
it's a place of self-awareness. That's
important.
I want to describe I want to describe I
want to express that there's a sugya of
not not knowing yourself. But I it's
it's not a not just not a contradiction.
That's as mussar
in discovering a quarter cassette this
no it's it's it's a it's a word all
these are words mussar sugya this is a
words we use they're English words.
Sugya and mussar are English words
gematria.
An English word is is not a shame or
etzem.
Table is just when we say table we
picture there's not a table it's just so
we have we have words to like a year is
the deepest place is the shame or etzem
and then there's like ways we can
just ways we can communicate.
So we could take words just in order to
communicate are you referring to that
thing? We say tables we're referring to
this thing. It's not a table. So I'm
using words like that.
Say this these are just oh you're
referring to that we're talking the
thing itself is
Hashem a year.
In the world of Hashem
the world to discover Hashem so we
really Hashem.
I am in shalom and sing I'm singing to
the world every year you say Hashem
every year is Hashem we have different
is Hashem.
>> Who says he's in the world?
>> What? I think that he has because he is
much more than just Hashem.
He is
just Hashem.
Are you happy
and much more than that?
Yeah.
>> We put top of Hashem.
You see that there's a there's a person.
But um but the good of Hashem is the
world not to know yourself.
And to know Hashem is like we're a lot
we're a lot Adam is
whatever you think my more than that
he's a lot maybe I have the whole thing
it's more it's more. Anybody who sees
themselves and understands when Hashem
and have Hashem
understands you manage figured out your
own Hashem you got it all.
We're extremely extremely big and we
touch and we feel and we experience
parts with manage big Hashem here is a
big thing that to say you have the whole
thing is that is is very far from true.
And we're so experiencing that aspect
first that you don't know yourself.
And I want to express that we're in a
year of now we're in a year of like
holding the So, you did weeks
and nine days, and now era of Tisha
B'Av, we're holding the Sugya of Galus.
One of the great gifts of Galus is you
don't know yourself.
Travel causes people move around. A lot
of staying in one place, you identify
yourself. It's very like clear who I am,
what are like a certain routine. You're
very locked into who you are. Things are
set.
One of the joys about spending my life
around youth.
It's one of the most beautiful things is
youth admit they don't know myself yet.
It's like an admission. Because then
they say, "What am I doing next?" It's a
state. Even the young married couple,
"What are we doing? Where are we going
to live?" And there's like
possibilities.
There's a certain admission, "I don't
know myself."
And people get to states where they
think they have a clear guide, they know
themselves. There's a basketball player,
my work mind, I asked the
There's a basketball player who said, "I
hate early season games basketball."
So, I said, "Why do you hate it?" He
said, "Cuz the bad teams don't know
they're bad yet. They're hard to beat
sometimes." He said, "Late in the
season, the bad teams know they're bad,
you could beat them easily. Early in the
season, the bad teams are hard, they
don't know they're bad yet." That's what
he said.
There's
There's There's the early years, people
I don't know who they are. This It's a
beautiful thing. It's a beautiful truth.
And it's good to be around youngsters
that to like to to tap into like And you
get older, you get like secure by your
routine, your job, your Things seem like
so In the settledness, you could think
you know who you are, and you think if
you have it down, you're like clear. And
it's like it's just totally not that
way.
It's not that way at all.
B'chol mad, it's not that way. Rebbe
speak and speaking a lot about the sham
men uncovering deeper things. The guy is
a selfish world. He like knows, he like
sees
You know you have the person down,
doesn't matter there's a foolishness to
that. It's like really foolish.
It's we do it because we want
predictability. We do it cuz it's
nerve-racking. When guys come to Yeshiva
I think other than correlates this, if
not not then I'm just saying my thing.
When I meet a new guy, I try to like
like prepare him to somebody else.
Makes it like safe for me. Oh, he's him.
Like and I have like names, you have
your and I try to like put I you try to
like like fit him into something. It's
never true, it's never close. A person
is is it's never it's not it, but you do
it to be safe. So you call his whole
life up. Even the anagram could help.
Okay, he's a four, he's a four or five,
okay.
That's Yeah, you like to be secure, you
give it maybe a number,
you compare him but it's not true.
Person in the sham with his ain safe is
is a
coming out. It's a piece of a sham is is
very very big.
One of the tremendous benefits of gallus
one of the tremendous gains of gallus
and travel and journey is that is is you
lose those things that give you like
this is who I am and you could identify
by and hide behind it's not true. It's
literally not true and when you lose
those things, you have to ask deeper who
we are.
But I I I mentioned earlier this summer
when I saw that sign on the shul,
I don't know who wrote it, the graffiti
on the shul, where are you Yidden? That
was somebody who saw like a Yid in a
very specific We're here, you just can't
find us cuz you thought we were that and
only that. You thought we had a certain
dress in a certain place. We're much
bigger than that and deeper. So, you
just lost cuz cuz of what you thought we
are, you can't find us. I'm here. Hi.
I'm here What What didn't expect you to
show up here to show up there.
The
The neshama in the space of neshama is a
world of There's a lot in us, tremendous
amounts that you can discover and
uncover and tap into my neshama. Tap in
the different situations of our life,
the different scenes allow us to tap in
and find new spaces.
My wife
My wife discovered Together we
discovered it It's It's a story I It's a
It's an incredible story. We were in
Poland and my wife suddenly had a chok
like it inexplicable like I we
were married 30 years inexplicably. She
has this chok that she wants to meet her
grand her elta zayda in Bialystok.
We had no information but she has this
chok I have to meet her.
Like like this just the chok of She
wants to I never heard her talk about it
once in her life. Her She knew that her
father They come from Bialystok.
That's where his origin. She wants to
meet her zayda in Bialystok.
We didn't know any names. We knew
nothing, zero. It didn't work like we
were in Europe. She wants to meet
the chok of
could have just remember one time the
neshama will run to Bialystok. Now we're
armed with much more but she wants to
meet them. This this urge to meet them.
When we get back We got back on a Friday
morning from Poland. My tzeishas out of
the blue her father again 30 years and
it's never happened. He sends the emails
from dad from papa sends emails. Out of
the blue he got an email that he said
this might be interesting to the family.
And out of the blue, on Motzei Shabbos,
he came back Friday morning.
That week, my wife has this choker to
meet her zaida.
And out of the blue, he sends us that
this came to my email, maybe a 20 years
before he signed up to something,
ancestry.com
or something many years before he had
signed up. He said this might be of
interest to you, and Motzei Shabbos, he
sends to the family the tome, Mamesh the
Matzeiva of the of his alter zaida.
And he's from Bialystok. Included in it
that he's a Mechaber Sefer, Sefer
Minchas Dovid. His name is Reb Dovid
Bryanski. The family's name is Brown,
but we had known Brown as Bryanski. Reb
Dovid Bryanski, and he wrote a Sefer,
the Minchas Dovid.
So, we got curious. She wanted his
parsha, but she wanted to meet the
zaida. Hashem said, "Oh, you want to
meet the zaida? Okay. So, you don't have
to come to you. You can come to you."
And the zaida came to us. We met the
zaida. He wrote a Sefer. His Sefer, in
his Sefer, the Sefer Minchas Dovid, he
says he had a very, very tough life. He
had these yissurim, serious yissurim.
And
he writes about his yissurim. He said,
"I was a baker." Said, "I always cared
about Torah. I was a Yid." He said, "I
learned every day. A Yid learns every
day. Every day a Yid learns Torah." He
said, "I learned every day, but I wasn't
zocheh to be sitting and learning. So, I
learned every day. I was a baker. I was
busy with parnassah." Said, "I went
through yissurim." He said, "The last 20
years of my life, I learned Yom u'Layla,
I'm Mamesh soaked in Torah." His Sefer
has a Hakdama, has Haskama from the only
Yom Tov's son as one Haskama. One of the
Gedolei HaDor, the only Yom Tov's son.
The other Haskama is Reb Binyamin, who
gave Haskama to the Chofetz Chaim.
To the Chofetz Chaim, to the Mishna
Berurah. that Reb Binyamin gives us
commentary safer. Beautiful as comments
they write about this sadik, Reb Dovid
Bryansk.
And he writes that the way I got where I
got is through yesurim.
He said yesurim are difficult and hard,
and Hashem loves us, and I discovered my
neshama from yesurim. He shows psukim in
Hallel. He says sar avi emsa. Emsa's
like a metziya. He says, why is it a
metziya? What does that
say? I'm made that I found through
yesurim my neshama that I'm worth.
Through my body being racked in
difficulty, I was able to find that I'm
more than my body.
He said I discovered my neshama and it
saved my family.
That's what he writes. I saw I'm worth.
What I found, and he said I'm writing
this cuz I want the reader to know this,
that Hashem loves us. And when we face
yesurim, to know that Hashem just wants
us to discover more, there's more of
ourselves. And that's why he's writing
it.
And he wants us to know this. He wants
the reader. He says, when he was a
letter to the family, we took it. He was
writing to his anach writing to us sugia
and the parsha of yesurim. He knew his
anach are visiting a place that you're
going to come in touch and in contact
with yesurim, with the challenges and
the galus and the difficulties of our
journey, that Hashem wants us to
discover we're more.
And that's mamish the sugia of galus.
When you're not when we're not tied to
different things, people discover deeper
places in themselves.
And it's a sugia.
I I was talking to my children that
Rebbi says to Rebbi says to talmidim not
to date a girl once. To go out and
there's no one and out in our world. You
don't date. So, the question is, how do
you have a second date? You know it's
not you. You know it's not you. How do
you have a second I mamish and no such
thing as a date where it's not to me.
Not even there's no such do a chesed.
There's not There's no sug you that's
not a date.
Whatever. So, what does that mean to go
on a second date? What does that mean?
So,
what I what what I just what my children
and I
I want to say [snorts] figured out
what's wrong with shidduchim. A guy
dates once, says she's not for me.
Who's You know yourself you're out of
your mind.
You You're on that sug you like das as
you know yourself. You don't You don't
know anything.
Stop knowing yourself. It's
[clears throat] annoying when she's not
for me. You You momish you
You don't even
Really? You're serious?
Go out a couple of times. You know
nothing and relate to a person momish.
Meet somebody. See what happens.
Stop being so stuck that you know
yourself. You You're in a shul you have
been with These are deep marriages. Two
neshamos coming together. This guy like
knows. That is such a strange fellow.
It's annoying when a guy like knows.
He's missing a whole sug you have not
knowing.
The The same guy you know is not to me
has neshama. I can't do this. It will
never work. I'm not shiyach to it.
You know yourself? You momish know?
Years ago I would learn certain s'farim
that I would close right away and I
couldn't relate to.
Today I read those s'farim and they're
like everything that talks to me.
You know yourself?
See See a journey. Meet somebody. Talk
to somebody.
That That alone a guy should go out more
than once. Just If he feels she's momish
not for you that for sure you need a
second date. Then it's partial give. If
you momish met each other and you say I
have a sense this is not my bashert.
Okay, then you You have to do Maybe do
10 to do I'm just like You momish stuck.
Not to me.
That's the guy who doesn't know himself
at all. He should go out a second time.
Just like his neshama should experience
and like open up a bit and like see
experience somebody.
So, I want to give this subject this
aspect of golus, this aspect of our
yisurim, this aspect of our travels,
this aspect when things don't like fit
exact and go exact and we can access and
find that we have deeper spaces and
there's more to us. There's much, much
more to us and I can find more.
>> [snorts]
>> I was happy Doniel and a couple of
chevre, they went out of town. They did
their own golus and when I spoke to
Dovid Clark, I spoke to Dovid, we
managed spoke, he wanted to from They
Dovid described to me things he like
felt is that he's a yid.
Somehow like it's interesting that the
hostages said the same thing.
The hostages who are just me and you,
the citizen, the hostages described
discovering I'm a yid.
Somehow when there was less
predictability,
they were not stuck in like the same
monotony and the uncomfortability, they
discovered deeper places. And one after
another they wrote like I'm I'm a yid.
They were looking into deeper places.
They were in not having all the
predictable things that make them just
fall into routine, they all disc-
discovered I'm a yid. Dovid and I
discussed similar things with like
getting in touch. Now he's
he's might even go back as a shtickel
rov these days. Is that happening Dovid?
Are you
You might be looking at the new rov of
Utah.
A rebbe or a rov? What's it going to be,
Dovid?
>> Rov.
>> A rov of Utah.
So much of the tire that we're hearing
from rebbe this summer of like digging
into deeper spaces of us
that we could find more and there's
there's much more, there's more in me
and there's more to tap into. This is
really the subject when people see where
past this world. So, there's a world
knowing oneself for sure. We live in a
physical world. We live with a goof.
Like Chaim says, we're more we're a
neshama with the goof and other aspects.
But, but also knowing there's spaces
that we don't know. We could tap into
more and we're capable of accessing
more.
Be ready for that all our lives, all the
different situations. Hashem, why? What
he wants us to access more. This segway
of yisurim and of galus that helps you
to find more, access more.
The Sfas Emes writes
that we know that when the kruvim were
looking at each other, so it was man
oisim tzelem makom pnei malabais.
When the kruvim turned pnei malabais,
was einai tzelem makom. The Sfas Emes
says pnei malabais, they were looking to
the externals.
They only saw the physical. They didn't
find those deeper places. That's That's
That's the pnei malabais. And the
opportunity of galus is to find those
deeper places. All of our opportunity of
galus.
I'm hoping in in in our mourning, in our
focus on the galus, in our focus on the
yisurim, that we can we could start
accessing and and being in touch with a
deeper place of the neshama that's
journeying. That's That's That's the
hope of what could be over the next
hours.