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Entrepreneurs are a class of their own.
They find something, they try to develop
it, and if it doesn't work out, they
pivot. They use it as a stepping stone
for growth. Barry Zulti is a serial
entrepreneur. This week on Jewish Grit,
listen to the story of his success.
[Music]
Barry, um, we'd like to get to know you
a little bit better. Uh, let our viewers
understand who Barry Zulti is. So, why
don't you start by sharing in 60 60 to
90 seconds a little bit about your
personal life. Where'd you grow up?
Where'd you go to school? A little bit
about your family if you're comfortable
doing that.
>> Sure. I grew up in Toronto, Canada. I
got married in 2005.
>> Lived in Israel for um about two years
and then moved back to Lakewood, New
Jersey.
>> Even after you got married, you were
studying Torah.
>> Mhm. Mh.
>> And then you pick yourself up and you
move back to
>> Yeah, we we were expecting our second
child and we felt that uh maybe this is
a good time to consider how we're going
to support the family.
>> Okay, great.
>> So, you moved back to Lakewood?
>> We moved back to Lakewood
>> and right away you entered the
professional world.
>> So, pretty much pretty much.
>> Now, did you go to college at all?
>> I did not go to college.
>> Wow. But I did. Yeah, I but I What's
interesting is that one of the things I
did was actually arrange for people to
get college degrees. was one of my
little businesses is is so I didn't have
a you know a proper college degree. I
mean a talmudic degree which is
obviously very valuable.
>> Sure.
>> But um I I did assist people in getting
their MBAs or I I ran a nursing cohort
for for women in Lakewood to get their
nursing degrees. That was a I did that
for a stint. I guess I would consider
myself an entrepreneur by nature.
>> Okay.
>> Um I started multiple businesses.
uh failed at many businesses and was
successful at many businesses. I guess
the the one career or one business that
I did have was a newspaper distribution
business in in Lakewood. I started a a
business from scratch and it grew pretty
pretty large uh in in Lakewood.
Ultimately, I I sold that business. So,
we were quite successful. Then it was a
lot of hard work and a lot of warehouse
work as well, but negotiating with
clients and and stuff like that. So,
>> is it still in existence? it's still in
existence and it's still it's actually
with the growth of Lakewood, the growth
of Lakewood alone kind of contributes to
the success of the company. So
eventually, I mean, there's a couple
businesses in between, but I did have a
a friend who I was introduced by a rabbi
of mine from Detroit, so I didn't
actually spend time yes with him, but he
was referred to like a a mutual rebby.
He came to my office one day and looking
for, you know, a career and I set him up
with something I was doing at the time
was ball bearings. did, you know, my
father-in-law was doing ball bearing
distribution and I kind of came up with
a unique, you know, way to reach the
markets and stuff. So, I I did that for
some time and kind of elevated his
business. But I brought this guy along,
my friend Sam and uh he went out to
different markets. He actually, you
know, a salesman, traveling salesman,
and he did really nicely for that. But
it was it was short-lived and we
obviously kept up and used to come by my
office and uh just the backstory is that
my family is in the real estate business
in in Toronto. But so they they were in
the real estate business and and I was
kind of on my own, you know, trying to
you know hustle things out and try
figureing things out. Anyways, in this
in this distribution business, I used to
meet this friend Sam and there's
actually a good hashkah story
divine providence story where uh he
received a expensive cigar from a client
>> and uh he had nothing to do with it
because he doesn't smoke cheap cigars
either. So he says, "Barry, you want to
come over for a you know a cigar?" I'm
like, "Sure." You know, is it good?
Whatever. you know, I went to his house
and um we've chatted in the past about,
you know, business and stuff, but at
that point, you know, we had this
conversation. He was frustrated with
being on the lending side of the real
estate business and, you know, certain
things in that business and he just, you
know, I really wanted to get on the
other side of the business. I really
want to, you know, buy stuff and, uh, I
guess he needed some encouragement and
and some, you know, background and I did
have, you know, some business background
and, you know, come from a, you know,
real estate family and, uh, over that
cigar, I said, you know, Sam, let's do
this. Let's do this. you know, and you
know, I guess I'm I am pretty
spontaneous and I would say there was
things that were going on my business
that I wasn't excited about mainly that
it was just, you know, it was just being
successful and not nothing more, you
know, and and as an entrepreneur, I like
starting up. I like new things. I like,
you know, change. So, it was just this
great opportunity and it was it just
kind of in some ways it fell on my lap.
But if you kind of look at the whole
story, how how things kind of came
together, it was pretty amazing. So um
we we started this real estate company
uh myself Sam and a third partner Aaron
and uh we started that business in 2017.
I used proceeds from the sale of my of
my business as as a you know launching
tool for us. Yep.
>> And we actually started uh our office
was in my uh warehouse office. That's
that's where we started. That was our
first uh Brentwood Investment Group
office until we moved out and uh grew
our portfolio.
>> Very nice. So, are you doing multif
family now?
>> Yeah, it's pretty much multif family and
uh most of our real estate is in
actually Virginia, but then we got you
know in Texas and Tennessee uh and some
other markets.
>> Why don't you share with us if you're
comfortable doing so like what your
typical day looks like? How much do you
dedicate each day to your professional
life? How much to your personal growth,
to your spiritual growth? Like what do
you do on a typical day?
>> Okay. So my schedule changes often but
right now the way it looks typically and
you know I'm always you know tinkering
with it. So yeah on a on a typical day
at 7
>> uh then I have a kusa after davin
>> study buddy.
>> A study buddy uh for like an hour and a
half.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. And
>> what do you guys study?
>> We study garum Talmud.
>> We study Talmud. And the the style that
I chose with this particular study buddy
was uh moving
>> uh covering ground.
>> Covering ground. Okay. Covering ground.
>> The high that you get when you
accomplish and understand
>> it's like better. I I don't I've never
done real estate deal in my life. And
I'm assuming that when you get a really
good deal and you know I don't know it's
sure there's some type of high.
>> Yeah.
>> And it's comparable maybe even better. I
don't know. You tell us.
>> You know what? I think it's an age
thing. So, I I I I know that when I was
younger, certain things would make me
more excited. And now that I'm older,
you know, and wiser. For me, it's really
getting into like God's work, you know,
that that's what it is. It's it's
dabbling in, you know, God God stuff,
right? And and that that's the part that
just just makes us like, hey, I tapped
into something that some really great
people have have, you know, I'm just
tapping in such a tiny amount, but it's
it's it's a it's really that's that's I
think what the what the highlight is.
>> And how like what's your typical workday
like? How long do you spend in the
office?
>> Um it I'm like all over the place with
with But I but I'll come into the office
at 10:00 or so. Uh after, you know, the
day of the week that I work out, it's
going to be in the morning after the
study buddy. Uh, and then I'll come in
at at 10:00 or so. And then, you know,
I'll either leave at 4:00, 5, 6, or 7,
depending on what's going on. It depends
on how much it's it's needed of me. And
it it shifts with what's going on in the
market and and, you know, we have going
on. You know, we're we're the the
business itself, you know, I've learned
to delegate a lot. So, there's a lot of
uh pluses in delegation. I would say the
minus is that sometimes you kind of try
to figure out what you're what you where
you're going to do. You know, if
everybody else is doing everything and
the market is a little slower, you know,
what do you do? So, you got to pivot and
and figure out, you know, where where
you're most valuable and and stuff like
that.
>> Fortunately, you're a lucky man. You
have eight children. How do you balance
like, you know, running your business,
studying, going to the gym? How do you
balance that?
>> It's challenging.
>> It's It is challenging, but
>> a wife.
>> Yeah. and a wife. Yeah. So, she's a
great partner. Okay. She's a she's a
wonderful partner with me and and um you
know, so she definitely does put me
maybe more of the work than I do. But um
I pride myself on on being a great dad.
And you know, for some reason, the more
things that are on my plate, the more
I'm able to give. I don't know. It's
just this weird thing that I would never
imagine that I would have enough time in
the day to give each each child the
attention. And there's so many other
things that are going on in my life,
too. I'm I'm home. I'm there. Sundays
I'm I'm home except when I got to come
out for
>> Sorry, I took away from your family
>> like this. But, you know, we do a lot.
We go, you know, I travel with the kids.
I take my boys this year, took my girls,
too. We go skiing a lot where, you know,
we do we do a couple ski trips a year.
We're constantly on the go. We're
constantly spending time with the kids.
Um, the balancing act is in 2025, you
can do a lot of work on the road. You
don't always have to be in the office,
which is really nice. And it ju it just
works. You know, there's there is a
tremendous amount of responsibility.
Sometimes responsibility doesn't
translate into amount of minutes worked,
but it's more about what you're dealing
with and decisions that you need to make
and the people you need to support and
your employees and staff and everything
else like that.
>> Do you have a mentor? Is there someone
in your life that you go to when you're
just not sure how to do it yourself or
just when you need another perspective?
>> Yes, there isn't a single mentor in my
life, but I have learned how to draw on
other people. I would say my wife is the
one that I turn to most. not necessarily
when it comes to business, you know,
specific business things, but you know,
interpersonal kind of things and
perspective, just gaining perspective.
It's always great. And I have the rabbis
I've collected over the years, uh my
business partners as well. I feel like
I've built kind of a rolodex of
different people in my life where I can
draw on, you know, for for specific
things. So, um I wouldn't say I'm all
set with that. There is that sometimes
I'm like, "Oh gosh, what do I do here?"
You know, but I have collected I have
collected I, you know, my parents are
are are people in my life who who I can
draw on.
>> That's really beautiful.
>> Yeah.
>> At this age, you know, a person who can
still go to their parents and say, "Hey,
they do have life wisdom." It's a little
counterculture for the American society
or even Canadian society, but hey, good
for you. Two points. We talked to a lot
of different people and I like to hear
some people's personal challenges if
they're willing to share. like if you
could think of a particular challenge
that you're willing to be open about and
kind of how you worked it through and
kind of came out on top.
>> I think what I touched on before is, you
know, my entrepreneurial spirit and the
need from a nature perspective to always
be busy and always feeling like I'm
doing something. One of the things that
I feel like I shifted shifted more out
of I wouldn't say completely. It's about
like my identity with my career and and
things like that. You know, I I think
there's there's like a point in my
career where where my career and what I
did for a living or what do I do for a
living is so much part of my identity
and therefore if I'm bored, you know, as
as the bread winner, even if I'm making
money or but it becomes like, hey, you
know, am I making enough money? Am I you
know yes I'm very happy but there's all
those feelings that I think a lot of
people share but you know so for me it's
the transition of you know what is my
identity you know who is Dolby
>> you know you know hey how are you you
know what do you do for a living like I
at this point what do I do for a living
is it's it's just a small part of me
it's a small part of my identity so I
guess between you know identity shift as
well as learning how to pivot when you
know when there's a lot of delegation
and tremendous amount of things that I
could do but choosing which things to do
what to focus where where am I going to
find the most value and not just how am
I going to make the most money but how
am I going to feel the best and what are
my contributions to society look like
yada yada yada
>> you know our audience is you know
predominantly young professionals just
starting their career what's the best
piece of advice that you'd of somebody
who's 24, 25, 28 years old just kind of
getting into the workforce in a real way
trying to figure out the next steps.
What's something that could really help
them?
>> I would say there's a lot of a
misconception of people are looking for
the right career. They're looking for
titles and looking for okay that
position. I know a guy that does this
that makes a lot of money. So the focus
is on the title and what they, you know,
what kind of income is available in
that. And I think the shift for people
can be to work on their own self-growth
to to invest in themselves as much as
they can. Doesn't matter what you do.
It's a matter of how you grow through
what you're doing. Opportunities come in
my life. Opportunities kind of came and
I I was able to jump on those
opportunities. But while those
opportunities were coming down the road,
I was constantly working on myself,
working on on how I can be a better
person, how I can be a better
businessman, how I can be right, I did
newspaper distribution, right? It's
it's, you know, and and uh but I tried
to to be the best I can at that, you
know, I'm an entrepreneur. I never
worked for somebody, you know, in my
life, so I don't have that experience.
But I did a lot of career counseling,
too. and and one of the things that I
you know shared with a lot of people and
just take you know it isn't it isn't
rocket science about what career you you
choose choose whatever is available at
this point that you know you don't want
something dead end whatever you know
we're not getting into details but the
idea is to to find something and become
the best at it and create value in
yourself and once you create value in
yourself that the opportunities are
endless
>> this show is called Jewish grit I want
to focus on the Jewish for a minute but
the grit away
>> so as a Jewish person you know you live
in a world around us, the United States
and Canada, what's the thing that makes
you most proud to be a Jew?
>> A lot makes me proud, especially
especially when people might think this
this is the time to maybe not be proud
or maybe more fearful, but uh it it kind
of brings out the pride, the Jewish
pride. But I would I would think that
the you know the one thing that
especially you know with in my career
and in my life uh I would say the the
fact that Judaism has a blueprint for
life. It is something that is so uh so
important for me and it's such a like a
relief. You know we're we're faced with
so much you know non-truths. there's so
many lies out there whether it's media
or just the global in you know in in the
world. Um sometimes it's you when when
you're the one that's trying to decide
what's correct or what's morally right
or it's it's very confusing and you as
you see there there but when you have
when you have a blueprint of how to live
and you can always come back you always
can ground yourself with that blueprint
of the Torah. Yeah. That that to me is
something that I'm just you know
immensely grateful for. It takes a lot
of the pressure out of your brain. I
know how I'm operating my business. I
know the principles that I stand by are
principles rooted in the Torah.
Thousands of years tried, tested, and
true.
>> And I don't have to second guess myself
when it comes to, you know, being honest
in business. It isn't just a virtue
because it's in style and, you know, I
may get arrested or I may right that it
it doesn't come down to that. it comes
because this is a principal value that's
rooted in the blueprint of my life. It
uh so I would say that that makes me the
most proud.
>> That's a beautiful thought and it's a
world with a lot of murkiness and having
clarity and having your values straight
is amazing. Been a pleasure talking. I'd
love to hear more. Wish you continued
success
and hope that however your definition of
success is.
>> Keep coming back to that.
>> Thank you so much. Pleasure. Wonderful.
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