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Ep. 20: Sukkos & Simchas Torah By The Rebbe with Rabbi Yisroel Noach Vogel
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In this episode, Rabbi Yisroel Noach Vogel, a Mashpia in Queens, shares his personal memories of spending Sukkos & Simchas Torah in the Rebbe’s presence. It will surely draw the listener in to experience "the Rebbe’s Yom Tov," where every moment was alive with unparalleled joy, connection, and chassidishe warmth.
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I have never ever seen a dance like
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And there was jumping.
I mean the gosh how there's
there
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I'm Yasi Cayman. Welcome to Among
an ongoing faban about life as our
vibrant connection with the Reba and
inspired living shaped by the way he
teaches us each and every day.
Okay, fine. So we'll move. So now we
have uh
>> which is everyone's
only the first day
>> right.
Um
again before
meas
those days were quite unevent uneventful
I would say
um
>> before oh you see the
>> when there were changed and
>> you didn't see the
>> changed didn't see the too much
>> so now we get
>> okay so now we get to the highlight of
>> at least in my view
>> but I want to go over uh whatever the
first time I came to it
day after.
>> Mhm.
>> It seems like there started on Yuanhaga.
The day after Yam
they were started to go to the oil.
So the day after every Yumpt
>> every Y
besides Rashana because it's didn't go
on a fast day
but um day after in Kipper there went to
Lav. So I remember when I came to Saudi
so they said actually somebody picked us
up from the airport and said then
already done was in the aisle already
went home so I'm not going to see the
that night.
So first I saw there was
but uh and there went
also and from then on I think all the
years from the after would go to
so um
um described I mean I described it in
the the forerunner for the hair
>> the original
my first 24 hours by the Reb was like
whatever it's interesting I think I
think it's archived you get online I
think anyway
seeing the first time my father admitted
to me when the reb came into me he was
looking at me not not he wanted to see
my reaction
but uh funny thing is I'd never seen a
video then a film of the rebba before I
came to the reba first
so I'd never seen they were walking or
anything. I saw pictures but I never
seen a
a video.
So I see they're walking in downstairs.
So all the will be downstairs besides
from
Chris also started to be downstairs
during t you know the big island.
It wasn't hard to ask the Reban says
that I noticed through the years because
I remember one time a bus of tourists
came. Half the bus was boys, half bus
was girls. I don't think they were from
but they asked the girls in the in the
bus. So the down downstairs even though
it's quite empty but it wasn't hard to
ask the reb to downstairs. If there was
an excuse there were down downstairs
or even the you know hats did I not down
cuz I'm big island
anyway. Um so the reba down the reba
came into
remember seeing there but the first time
I would say he looked different than I
ever saw the reba before though after
that I mean before I didn't see but
after
his face seemed like glowing it was like
I don't know it was different look
and there goes this place
during ashri not sure when that stopped
I think after me
>> I discussed this on a different podcast
with someone I don't think we came up
with an explanation but the had this hug
>> put on the show and then later the snap
that
>> and to come in with a gle on
>> then only
and um
yeah I'm going to cut off a few details
have to go through every single detail
but just seeing seeing the right after
Mina River turns around
And there goes up to Ardesh touches the
paras
and uh Freden le Fryen the photographer
was there that was his first year
first year's official uh photographer.
>> Mhm.
>> So the as saw him standing there next to
g smile and I see you know you have to
learn the hanhagas. I see the DA smiles.
Everybody smiles. Anyway, the Reba
walked. There was going and somewhere
near the Bimma in the middle of the
shuddly stops. It was stopped. Everybody
ran over there. By the time I got over
there, the was already out of the sh.
But the Reb asked Bakar who's taking
pictures.
Tanya, how much Tanya do you know about
pay?
I mean when went over there I heard him
tell you asked me if
this is an English guy you want like
another American
eight years later spoke about it
I asked him if he learned
photograph
Maybe I don't remember that one.
>> No, but this is this is like
this a few times.
>> Yeah, but this was like about it.
>> It's referring to that time.
>> Okay. Eight years later speaks about it.
>> There's a video walks in
>> straight over the land.
>> Yeah. That morning. Yeah.
>> Yeah. The morning.
What's interesting that ask the person
who's holding the phone, the camera, not
the one who's holding the video.
>> Interesting.
>> Personally, I feel that video
you have more to learn. One of the
things says you took a picture
yesterday, you took a picture day
before, why you taking a picture again?
What are you going to get from it? So
unhagers which people um they write down
they saw such an unhagger different
unhagger but what do you get from just
taking a picture again? That's what
there was. So I don't know my own when
it comes to videos there was not so
against it because a video does have a
>> you know there's something more you
could learn from
>> I'm thinking about them theorizing about
this more there was opposition from the
for pictures and
was told
but video
>> so there are mentions in that about
>> right but video later when uh And then
Krinsky wanted to start the videos. I
mean and Yul was doing the videos in I
think liked it
>> even though in that also there was say
satellite.
>> Mhm.
>> Didn't say the didn't say in a positive
way.
>> Mhm. I remember when I held David Kinsky
I think it was you know the one who
started gem and he was like uh or maybe
it was freedom one of them anyway one of
the family was saying uh the first time
they have mentions a satellite wasn't
positive
>> publicly yeah
>> yeah so like
anyway so I was just saying that this
what happened that first men I mean I
was there that night there was between
and it's the last time it was at tunic.
Okay.
So my father asks client could you go to
so says you just came you already wanted
to go to but later later years I found
out it was
>> before and afterwards. No no no no be
first you hear and then you go to
>> even the first the bak who came before
and they wanted to go to as soon as they
arrived and the freed said after shabas
and they were wondering and
simpson then he explained he said shabas
the
now we don't hear we don't hear the
Indian shout first comes and then
So maybe that was the Indian La didn't
have that year because our ticket was
the day after is there was no way we
could change it. So um we're talking and
uh and um my father's asking was there
was nothing to do already we there was
already he's going to the
so I didn't have but the point because
of that my father sent me the next year
for so another
>> because you didn't have
>> because I didn't have then so
>> I came the next year so I had
>> just by yourself
>> yeah I mean yeah I went to the room by
I was twice
and
very short but was
um
up to so
that night was
so I remember the discussing if the
um usually afterb would come at 1:00 in
those years but because go to the
because it's So mama will come at 12
o'clock and they were right. I I already
told you before about the the gl so I'm
not going to
>> but me b me b me b me b me b me b me b
me b me b me b me b me b me b me b me b
me b me b mentioning gl I'm not going to
repeat it again
>> that night was came back from
we came back from the from so the
downstairs till the end of there would
always be a break between even though
was late was after
but nevertheless there was always a
break between
after
mandal mandala did that change and they
started having together
and even shabas by faban if it was late
also min together that's a new hanog
started el malad
so after minad went upstairs to his room
and there was media that may be I think
9:15 whatever and then a courts of faban
usually a courts faban meant two hours
bar two two and a half
excuse me
um
comes in
and uh I told you already before about
when I said first time okay first timer
they said that he wants all to go to um
especially to show that in the world so
should go and beus
So to show that wherever he is he's
comfortable he's bus so especially
should go to all the different places
then going to
>> sim
stood up by and g then gave out dollars
it's the first time getting dollars from
the reba I mean kissed so went over
by time I went over
in the early years of dollars by
Fabangan, you would still be in the
middle of Fabangan and the Tankist would
go around and give dollars. It was hard
to climb over the people and especially
I wasn't used to it. When I came to the
re gave me a pack of dollars, but as
soon as I went off, somebody says to me,
"Everybody has dollars already. Take for
yourself and uh give me the rest. I'll
give back to Mosc because especially
there were loads of takistan." Mhm.
>> And I tried to squeeze back inside and
it was a interesting um
and the Reb said to a few to whistle.
Remember you'll see two from is next to
me and he's whistling. I think the Reb
said two one after another to whistle.
By the third niggan, he's still
whistling. He has his eyes closed and
he's whistling with all his kayak and
looked at him and smiled.
He was like in a different world.
Anyway, the end said um like sing going
out of gus
the started and stood up and made frail
host a very wasn't very unusual in those
years but it was still an interesting uh
thing
that's already the night before sukus
and sukus used to be a peaceful once
before
The only real night was the second
night.
Besides that, it was um
>> why the second night?
>> Second night is always for it was a
moment thing officially. The second
night of sukas because in BL.
>> So the second night was always loads of
herangans
used to
be always big. the house where I was
staying remember was an uncle so he used
to come to that suka always for ring
and um anyway so um I remember just uh
the second night every time most times
when they ever came in that sukas they
were saying
and there came in there was some on the
way to his place and started by or it
was second night sukus they sing
and there comes this face or puts down
the sid turns around him start clapping
turned around to the was like wow it's
like a really exciting it's very unusual
that a regular
did like that later but did that every
that was they say because of what
happened afterwards and there wasn't
with
that was unusual but even also there did
that
and Um
trying to remind myself now but uh
and there's every
especially before
so one of the time is saying
and there comes in it's you look the
video it's on the tishary video of it
which gem came out gave out the black
and white one there's a phr video but
it's not that good the black and white
one push focuses on the reba you see the
reb is seriously happy. It's like hard
to explain. serious for
>> that's the
>> but that particular thing I mean that
looks like what the rebba looked like in
that shoulder slightly as he's clapping
and and as turns around niggan's over
and huff used to be the same way turns
around then niggan's over hakaf is over
>> general is
>> yeah niggan
>> they say one Not sure why
>> they say one of the gimmel maybe early
lammed say was upstairs
came into
and seeing Allahb got up on his chair
and for 10 15 minutes they say whoever
was there will not forget it people
saying ah I missed it I was there and
that but everybody remembers that
>> I think it has something to do with the
the with the niggan
>> I don't know what I'm saying
>> I mean you could say a bunch of niggan
the really liked with the like
>> also like the it also works very well
musically. I don't know like I don't
know
>> it's a very
>> I thought about it over the years like
what's what's this niggan
>> I wouldn't know why but anyway that's
but there's a bunch of like so also
is one of the nonim that um mavage was
singing by hakafus one of the nonimon
>> mhm
>> um
where's the others not too many more the
hak but that
change the sometimes it ever changed it
especially when he danced by himself in
the later years
um but generally I see sukus was a
peaceful I'm not going to go into the
second night
was a strange thing it ped from the
second night of sukus it poured until
pa almost did not stop raining I don't
remember a single meal we were able to
eat was like run in with your coat and
eat asked and go out. It was push
pouring the whole time. I said settle
from the rebound. It's printed.
>> Yes.
>> That
somebody asked how could you have the if
you if you um was such a mat of raining
and it says in the
so said since you already made the
also they say even though it's raining
say
So
was pouring the came in and said loud.
So should hear you say even though it's
raining.
>> So you think the also said if inside
right
>> so there in the settle the says since
you're already said that day. So it
can't be that the doesn't accept your
sitting in the
discussing it's hard to understand this
because we do continue to also whatever
it's
>> I think that year they did they didn't
they didn't eat but they
>> yeah whatever they inside
>> actually night
>> I think someone was describing a mend
and he was I heard head out then
>> I heard that
night
so after till
announces because the sent all over
somebody suggest here bring here so I
wasn't there you know my I was a young
boy my father took me home to sleep I
have to tell him but the guys went into
the suka so bring it's pouring and they
say before that I went home they would
go home shab would go home by shakra
So the looked inside the suka and saw
for raining and the rebra.
>> Mhm.
>> Anyway, so it was raining so much the
shin the reb gave out leak next to his
room
>> and not in the suka.
>> So I got lak next to his room. So it's
the only year that happened was push
pouring. later years it happened
>> on rabba
>> I think no wasn't that the room
>> don't think I mean I don't I have to
check I don't know
>> okay
>> but usually usually came up with this
okay
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>> so you're
from till
>> I just want to mention one more thing
was interesting um
second day sukus.
So first they use a little of an
and um the reb would always stand and
wait until does their hakafa
and then they would start continuing to
so the reb would first go make the
hakafa and every behind the but there
would stand and wait every single day
they would always look
all the years so we're standing is
waiting the kaz he didn't know or
whatever the reason was he screams l man
is that you put back to sephotra
and as you put him back scream the kazin
screams landas and everybody else
repeats the puk
and here he scream mandas and there was
this big in his hand that returns to him
like what are you doing
so that was uh when the finished going
around the bimma so the reb himself as
he turns turns around the started
himself she
like unusual
Anyway,
uh you see okay let's get some
as I said so was um
peacefully then till
I remember um
Jacobs called me up the first time and
said describe was the end of the noons
maybe not so much the end
If I describe t for no problem I'll
describe tish I'm speaking about shipper
comes to simpler is his new word about
susta he's interviewing me on the phone
I said I can't describe susta he left me
alone the next year he calls me again he
says you have to help me nobody wants to
talk about everybody asked they all say
you can't describe
I said you know I'll try as much as I
can but it's indescribable.
So I I usually give the three
and I say very
brings down
explaining the
I said the first time he was by the
alter used to do hakus first by himself
the
family and
then he would come out to the whole so
the alter himself said the whole atarisa
he was kaz like for the whole and he was
kaz for every hakafa
raises writes the first time I was to
I started to have a little understanding
what a yid must have felt felt like when
he went to the mikdash
first time I had such a understanding
that's one one Indian another
I'll tell you like this there's a say
had
What about
had a dream who had already passed away
came to him in the dream. So who's in
this world says how is it up there? He
says very good
to a shabas.
So wakes up he's wondering what do you
mean?
He thought to himself like this. It says
shabas is
so by every person shabas is of his
mahabo. When you come to
he invites you to his shabas his mahaba
is more than your whole
>> I was thinking the same thing the rebba
invited us into his
and that's probably maybe whatever the
reason why you can't describe it you
push you felt like you're in a different
idol. There are certain times when
people tell you that or even the moment
you're getting a dollar from the Reb
you suddenly in a different dimension
time has a different meaning over there
everything has a different meaning. So
by the reb
invited us into his his
printed in I think it was a book called
whatever not
articles just articles from people about
the I don't have the book but I saw in
that article somebody writes like this
an Israeli um
you know
>> reporter
>> reporter so he writes like
For years I've been hearing that you
can't describe.
Now I'm a reporter. My job is to
describe things until one year I decided
I have to go there just to describe.
But what should I tell you? He says he's
writing this in his article. He said
what should I tell you? It's the first
time I see something you cannot
describe. What should I tell you? The
describe the bleachers of the bakim up
to the ceiling jumping up and down.
shall describe to you the numeratis of
theban
none of this will give you the the
atmosphere the the a which there is
you can't
he first time my life I see something
you cannot describe and I'll tell you
something else when I was on
to come
he's tells me for whatever reason it was
one year he was there
says by theb
he said when he saw some
he says and he asked surly how could I
prevent my son from experiencing the
same the same experience he says he
traveled specially to the rebba another
time I figured that was s whatever I
traveled to the rebba specially just to
give my son the opportunity to be by the
rebus
I don't know anal kite whatever but
understanding feeling it was amazing
just to hear that from him I mean after
saying that you can start explain
describe whatever you can describe you
can't you can't describe some
I'd say most years you know before the
comes in the night
I mean it's all the same
they go into different differences
basically Um would be at 7 7:30
would start at 9:30
after started at 9:00. Same thing with
Fangan
they try to make things a little easier
to the half hour earlier but in general
I'm describing they were coming into
which is more than
so a lot of the years that I remember
was 10 years
in the later years. So generally they
would sing um
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so there be a circle people dancing once
it got fuller there is no room to dance
people you know singing on the place and
the comes in and make a shrill for the
come through and there is m comes in
with a sther everybody I've spoken to
says the same thing you know usually the
comes with a sther he puts down the sidd
everybody remembers
puts down a sther with both hands
to knew him and the Reb turns around.
Hey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And suddenly the
whole 770 is like one stick. It's not
separate people anymore. Everybody
controlled by the Reb's hands by the
Reb's movements and everyone's together.
It was amazing feeling just all
together.
And then there starts atarisa. I mean uh
there was scream ata the recording there
is from mashik from the is nothing
compared to that.
>> Well now we have another recording.
>> Yeah.
I don't know if it's I'm sure it's not
Loratans. I don't know should mention
public or not, but
the the way there was a
that you could hear the reb over most of
the sh
was screamed so loud. I remember people
even saying I wasn't here but the people
saying the way the reb in the beginning
was screamed at also always
is loud comes to kit and it's like way
louder
and then after each
night and day is also the say the goat
three times that's a letter from rash to
the rebba asking the to continue saying.
>> Oh, so that the letter is to continue
with.
>> Yeah, that's if I remember correctly.
>> I thought I thought I remember that it
was like Okay, interesting. Okay,
>> I thought I thought he's asking that to
continue.
>> Okay,
>> they say people have been saying that
they used to add a
ho there. It's
>> sometimes Yeah. Sometimes no.
>> It's on Hak.
>> Yeah.
>> But then they figured out it was only
one time that they added on Hak,
>> right? So maybe the other times because
of the
interesting um
they printed they printed the hakafus
you know to give out everybody should
have copies
>> they put that in
>> they put it in didn't say it remember
did not say it
anyway then to go to the first
>> and there we go to the middle whoever's
close I would wish
they would say
they say main reason people would say
that so the reb should say gamatim
one time by day
>> and it can be for the rebas has to be
for yourself
>> we're all uh we want to cash in as many
brahas as we can
>> so one year I actually kissed the while
the reb was holding it by day by day was
less people
day was less people and by night
>> by night was like
I remember the first time I was there
trying to catch a place. I got the most
dangerous place in uh
was between the Russians and the
Frenchies.
>> Danger zone
was a little closer to the Russians
in the middle night sh also in the
middle of the no one of the
I blinked. I'm telling you one second
they were there 200 300 guys just
one second they're there next second
they're not there all jumped down again
they landed on top of one bucker had to
give them oxygen before l there used to
be near the in the middle where there
would dance two huge bottles of oxygen
the green you know whatever you call
them
>> metal yeah labelled standing next to
them it was like they had to give oxygen
this bakar was like and I see one baker
standing there The ventures are empty,
you know, suddenly they all clear
cleared out, went to the hakafa and they
see one bar minus his hat, minus his
jacket, minus one shoe. He bends down,
picks up two titets, rolls them from
business pocket. They were wild, those
guys.
Anyway,
the Russians had from one of the beams
on the window of the vibes inside, he
had a rope. So the last guy because it's
a drop so they had a rope there to hold
on to
>> the equipment.
>> Everybody had their own at those years.
I don't know why they would block the
Kingston vibes. So if there's any ladies
in there, they couldn't see a thing.
But I was on top. I had my sweater on
because the air condition was blowing
right onto me. So I turned it you know
the flaps should close somewhere else.
So I said, "What are you doing?"
Everybody don't close it there. I'm not
closing. I'm just turning it like
freezing. Was good. I mean,
night
comes in. It was quiet and turns around
and then remember the roar of the crowd
like
began.
Um
I say
before
hakafus I don't know I was sat there for
first time but my father whatever I sat
down with my father on first table nish
opposite the rebba
came we didn't go to I didn't even I
don't know if I knew about it or not
doesn't make a difference I was there
it's the only time I saw the make kdesh
by night
the came in he made kdesh so I suddenly
realized I see the reb like sitting or
holding the kais and suddenly I see they
were going lower. So I guess there was
like sort of on his knees. He wasn't
sitting.
>> He didn't want to stand. No, the whole
>> kdesh.
>> He didn't want to make the whole stand.
>> He thought was sitting.
>> I thought he was sitting. So you see
they were going lower.
>> Made kesh
very frail of
explaining. Usually there is playing. So
and um in middle of fabangan says to
all of
uh in middle of the says
uh should sing a niggan of Medina with
words from Medina.
So they started singing from seven and
seven marching out. They didn't move as
if they're not singing. So they realize
the doesn't want that niggan.
So they're quiet. I guess the discussing
want to sing. So the looks to Barl Zman
Zman Zish.
So he sung a song. I don't know the
words were short. No. He sang in
Russian.
And there was a little bit. And after he
finish in Russian, they have to sing
something in English.
So there was no from the finally I start
singing just one just one sh just one we
sing I knew the words from a different
song from England I didn't know the tune
it's American tune Yankee Doodle
>> okay
>> I I didn't know the song and so I'm
trying to catch the tune as opposite me
is old old on the other side of the
table zing zing I'm saying the word I
don't know the I knew the words I don't
know the
The rep was clapping was wow mom is
clapping
and then
um
said to sing a song in French a French
song with French words
was the always used to show him to
whistle
>> so to him he had a huge hat then he was
like sort of a leader of a group of uh
Frenchies next to him so the reb's right
looked at him they sung the national
anthem
with an extra piece which I hadn't heard
before. It wasn't in the
right
>> they added it later.
So they saying that they sang the
>> sung the whole anthem with French words
and there was there was like that you
know
then there was a niggan of mama
the but not as much as the first not as
much as English one
>> the English one. Yeah. Not as much as
English. Well, there was the says
of
his aim.
So I figured there
before he said mama
is aim.
So the mother of all languages. So
kale
to his head. And it came the end of
heran. So you have to announce that
everybody should leave the should leave
the shul to be able to set up for
hakafus. At that time was no kdesh yet.
I think that started in mala and
something like that
camel maybe
>> a kdish after
>> kdish between fabangan and
>> office which still does it till today
you know.
>> Oh
>> yeah. So um anyway the so he got up the
old Tvski to announce I guess it's a a
tradition in Labavage before you make an
announcement sha
I don't know exactly what happened at
that moment I didn't notice but I see
label grown telling him to get up onto
the table like he's okay he got up on
the table he starts again
says
he starts again says
say three times.
>> Okay. Just like he was the cousin for
always. So he say
the call say three time each time this
is a raise your voice really
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and the is smiling the whole time. So
while all this is going on there was
beautiful smile then he announced we
should go out and then there was you
know that's the only time I heard the
sing this again is no recording but
today
hey left it's the only time I heard that
was singing this without words just
>> you heard that I was singing it
>> I heard they were singing without
without words
>> they sing in front of in front of the
>> yeah those times They heard the Reb
singing it himself
and that there became Tacus.
I mean, I'll get into some of them, but
one of the uh
um
okay at the end of
so instead of the Reb going out the way
came in from the sides of the tables,
they went in the middle of the tables
towards the where he danced. So he comes
to end there's a table in the way which
seemingly there will do that every year
until ladas.
So I I don't know I was dream for a
second and one of my friends says look
look and I see the re is like climbing
up onto the table seemingly the reb
pulled a box from under the table stood
on the box stood on the table. So
suddenly the tables are quite high but
stepped up onto the table and as the
rebbit jumped down and as he jumped down
he went like this
and so they I don't know what it
was but
>> it was blocking the rabbit
>> the table cuz the reb walked to the
middle so the table's blocking the reb
>> so the stepped up they say other years
the reb like swung himself over but the
heroes box stood on the table and jumped
off but I remember as he's jumping off
it went like
And then they had to slip rashag and
label slip slip rashag over the table.
whatever.
Anyway, that was llama 12.
Um
I noticed something interesting lad
during the day fambrangan
and um it's long faban and they're wash
say around 7 7:30 something like that
and uh I remember 25 to 1 cuz I was
standing behind there but then came a
little later so I didn't have a place I
stood behind and so I seeing the clock
the whole time like 25 to one bar there
started the mimemer
It was like it's a long fang six hour
fang
in the middle of fang
was um one year over there his name is
is from
they say he was very very active in ms
film
so the reba told him quite a number of
times at one point I see the rebba I
don't know how the cup got to the reba
plastic cup the rebba opens the water
the picture of water which was for the
Reb. The Rebel poured a little bit of
water inside the cup and the Reb handed
it to label fill up with wine
and
he gave it to Label handed it to
I guess this was the last cup.
He was quite uh whatever. So he stands
up
there with a big smile like sit down. It
was like it's very uh
at the middle of the I noticed something
again I don't want to be but there was a
whole ma that Rab once told us against
um
how the the reb once sort of explained
that the rabban
>> no no in general
you could look it up and uh he said then
they realized the first time the
straighten his tie would raise himself
up they realized and the ra are coming
so having heard that here I see
something interesting like at one point
the reb is like clapping between middle
goes very fast
it's like almost you should notice like
a half a minute or minute later there
was
raised herself up I mean I saw many
there were many times passing from one
side to the others the other night he
didn't raise himself up
>> but here like half a minute after he
straightened his tie they raised himself
up so it tells you something
>> different and like that
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>> Every every year has its own
first time there
in the middle of
then like I mentioned before the Indian
of the was going on.
So um before hak I think it is
so the turned around to cats who was
announcing the who should go to office.
So the looked towards him started saying
something. It looked like they wanted to
give him an instruction. They became
quiet. But started a sikha instead. The
stepped forward and started saying the
whole was leaning on a stander.
And here stepped forward.
Basically the said all should go to the
zing of the marsh to show that belongs
to belongs to us belongs to belongs to
Eden
in a sense I would say one of my friends
was saying it looked like the was paying
back for what he didn't do by the march
there was the march was so short he
there was like he did
mish but the biggest surprise was after
the The
took his sitter there started saying the
so high pitched I don't know how they're
able to reach so high
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so high like very very high scream lips
and there was saying lipsukim quietly
you know the small
and some people started to sing and some
people were shy you
So as soon as finished
they started singing was he did so much
there was actually a beard right in
front of the ding and he was going to
the like this the whole time with his
hand. So they're made to him also very
strong a lot but it was very strong
hakafa
again even though there was a before
before hakus but in the middle hakus
again before hakim.
So again the start of a and this time
the said that all those who are
um when the army and the mish and all
different types of
maybe all those are different types of
the Israeli army should all go to the
hakafa
then the rebba said again
in other words he was kaz for that haka
but the reb didn't go to the middle was
on his ding
They didn't know what niggan to sing. So
after the finished
so started singing
um
wasn't here
whatever I mean
was I think they were the special ones.
>> I think your hakama was I think your
hakama was very important.
give the context.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
Um I should I say mandalad
was a very interesting um
night. Usually
is like a little contained. The sim is
not all the way as big as usual.
Knight
there was like so
there was almost bent over
double ah there. Yeah. Yeah. His hands
stretched out forward. He was bending
and his hand stretched all the way
forward like
so afraid of the the hakas. And the next
night there spoke about it and the Reb
said that with
the with the alterb when when there was
a who should win the war.
>> Yeah. uh the altar if um Napoleon or or
um
>> and uh it was the sign of Shine whoever
blows Kas first and they told the story
didn't say the name who was the other
just wanted to stress he was a person a
person so it's
says like stressing
and he says um so the other this he told
his people right away to get there the
dumb fast. And when he got to Schaefer,
he picked the in his hand and he said, I
remember there was saying this like loud
I the
like he did it first.
>> Did it already
was called and he he blew for what did I
say the should be before Ding just like
Lulv is before Ding. Then later you take
it in Ding again. So same thing should
be right in the way in the middle. Then
you blow again in Mos but they stopped
there was because the Romans or whoever
it was was getting nervous.
>> I think I
was reading I think it says you're not
supposed to do it that early.
>> Not supposed to do that. Wait. Okay. The
main reason
>> right
whatever you do it later. Yeah.
>> Yeah. But the main reason is the said
not to because the the go were afraid of
making an uprising. Right?
>> But once you do it in the middle of
doubling, you see it's part of a
ceremony. It's not an uprising. It's not
a rebellion. Anyway, that was the main
reason. But
went back to the original thing and he
blew first. So you see from this says
there, but sometimes you have to be
before the actual time. So here we will
mock them before the actual time of the
so like weirdly thing and to the end of
this says because the time before hakus
so every ye is able to to bench another
ye so everyone should bench and then at
the end
says
to to be um
to to
say's
name
And then he said and
said didn't say name
said
the next day they don't explain why he
didn't say the whole
only
said has to do more of the
bentures everybody
it was after between Hakoffus between
Fbrang and Hakoffus everybody's going
around benching each other. It was like
and this kiddish outside you know
everybody's eating there but people
going to each other and everybody's
benching benching each other was at
I mean they were just benching and they
were hugging each other also
>> there was like
that's one thing
I saw
>> it's an interesting thing that I'm
noticing from your te
and everyone talks about the rabba but
but two things you mentioned. I mean the
story of of the bra and also the way you
started that everyone felt like one.
Mhm.
>> So it's like the type of the feeling of
brought out you know the
like it's it's
altogether
>> yeah had this feeling which is
yeah
>> you're saying a mus that you saw
>> I saw a mif it was the night of
and it was before around time you know
the the the reb would be moved out
>> for place. There was two benches in
there
>> and I saw somebody suddenly screaming
around the river wasn't there yet.
>> So the the space for the skin was in the
front on Miz.
>> Um no um the right side say Dam.
>> Mhm.
>> And so it's called
the S lab of the head of T. He was um
because he had something maybe a heart
attack whatever it was some something
was going on. I remember as they were
taking him out to the kids all came they
took him on a stretcher and as he passed
by them then I was standing like
towards the front of the sh o I would
say opposite was ding in a sense to the
left side of kesh but near the first
bean.
and came out opposite
and as as they took him out and I see
Robert Leo's face. He was on the
stretcher. He's white like a what should
I say like a white tablecloth like a
white shirt is white get oxygen on you
know any next part I didn't see
obviously but they say that they took
him into the ambulance and they reb that
he's not well and they have to take him
to the hospital the said don't take him
to the hospital cuz I won't be able to
take care of him leave him here should
be by every deting every office
everything
that night I didn't see him I don't
think he they brought him to office that
night but from the next daying fabangan
everything he was there by the
fabbrangan before hakoffus
they pushed aside two benches where the
sky would sit behind the rebba and he
was on there on a wheelchair behind the
rabbi
by um hakafas
he's on the reba on a wheelchair now the
rebim would be I say wasn't packed it
was full of people you know anybody who
felt he had a excuse to be there would
be on the Reb's bimma. They would bend
down so not to block everyone. They'd be
full like whatever. And he's on a
wheelchair
a little past the Reba, not to block the
He's on a wheelchair in middle one of
the nigunim.
And I see the Reb is like looking
through the people catch his eyes and
starts clapping towards him and suddenly
he was likew
his hands were hanging over the edges of
the of the arms of the wheelchair. was
like on his face is white and there was
looking forward and there was like there
was like clapping towards him and
somebody pokes him like look there I was
looking at you so he looks up and there
was like no so he starts clapping I
remember my eyes popping out I see part
his face which is white starts to get
red he starts to come back to himself
and then after some I saw him walking
around very
>> he pushes saw this with your own eyes.
>> Yeah, I saw only I'd say the only time I
saw a mifus with my own eyes.
I like there was making a mifus in front
of everybody.
Most people I talked to don't remember
it.
>> Yeah, I never had this.
>> There's if you look in there's a yan of
shashimal
>> that whole story
>> and they don't have the whole story.
They just mentioned he was the reference
asked about him. Yeah.
There's one thing anyway. Um
MH is actually the first time I saw the
Reb showing to whistle on Y.
So was somebody the whole coffers was
whistling on the
on the left side of you. I mean
>> it happened before
>> the bleachers.
>> See the first time I saw the rabbit
>> but here at the end after it was after
already m the end there was said yet
they return to the wall. They were show
to whistle. They was like on Y. I
remember I was talking to somebody on
the phone after Y. I told him they were
said to whistle. I said, "Wow." Because
in this famous
notif
thing as clapping.
>> Yeah. I don't know. It happened even
more than that. Tashun base. There was
one time they were set to whistle on
Shabas big.
It wasn't here then.
Anyway, um
was there told turned over the cup was
also scene middle of a coffus and that's
also the mishb of the was like looming
in the background you know
>> I can't say your mom was thinking of it
the whole time but in the middle of the
middle of fangan
there was suddenly turned over his cup
I can't say mish noticed this somebody
told me he saw the rebel going like that
to take out every up but the ever turned
over the cup and there was starts
showing to both sides like what does
want they say yan was the first cup and
he turned over whatever was next to him
then the said something about to empty
the ka not to pour out but not to waste
it
>> then there's the the m the rabbit
afterwards
>> yeah then the reb um
the reb held the kama for like an hour
a niggan everything and I think also
they sung
and there were there was holding the in
his hand
>> upside down
>> upside down and there was waving the
making there was explaining there was
what's it mean of cup upside down so
just like on the the
puts all the cups upside down what's
upside down just like the windows of the
mash
light goes from outside. So the same way
the hashb comes from the beam of English
to everywhere that's why the cups are
upside down. So mela is the Indian of he
holding a cup upside down was like her
next to me show he is next to me as I
was said he goes wow like what a beer
explation
I remember in the middle I'm I'm saying
on my place where her was more on to the
reb's left
closer to the back of the shaw and I see
on the bleacher on the the other side
the arm side I suddenly happen to notice
a kid where maybe he's 15 years old
something 15 16 around that age was a
bak he's he's holding a cup with
something in the nashka of wine inside
his cup he's standing and holding and
smiling from the situation I think to
myself you're supposed to turn your cup
over what are you doing there's no way I
can get a message to him the split
second I thought that there were like
turn to him when like an emergency
showing his cup showing the Reb showing
his bak to him like supposed to be
upside down and the bak
by the way from where I'm standing I'm
standing on top of a high bench that
there was no mus by um before hak office
was especially there was no musk
and uh I saw from down there people are
bringing in bottles and bottles I figure
they said to empty the bottles it's
maybe off whatever I saw bottles all
different kind of whiskey and drumi and
bent tea and saw like bottles flying in.
>> So there wasn't a lot of drinking
>> generally not from the you know cuz you
want to see you want to know what's
going on.
>> Yeah. But here I think it was a little
more because
>> was quite I say the I mean they always
was always
and
but I say there's nothing like meas was
the last time I was here some
nothing like me
>> everybody talks about
>> everybody one of my wife's uncles tanum
film Ali Tanam he said to me, I remember
hakafas from tshin dal. I said, I
remember the old years. There never was
hakafas like never. I mean, it's
remembering enough from
never was like some say that the reb I
couldn't notice from where I was
standing. Some say they brought down an
old kapata which the threads were coming
out like ready for work. All I remember
is the first night I don't remember too
much on the first night but the um
Rashag was complaining is was cold
always gave him the second
so this I was told later he was like
whatever uncom
go upstairs I remember taking him out
during a niggan between outar races
And I felt bad for him as they're
slapping him out and the Reb starts to
be the the crowd was going like wow.
And um
and this is the first time usually a
would be five, seven minutes.
Every was 10 15 minutes. The could
not keep up with
felt it. There was no kas and there was
eyes were burning. He was like looking
to everybody and like slapping out of
you the kas which you never knew you
had. It's like it was
it's unexplainable.
Now the place where I was standing in
later years I couldn't see the when he
danced in the middle and mostly you know
I'd seen the a few times dancing with
Rashad. Rashad he did have kayak later
years you know danced for a minute.
>> Yeah. I read in one of the Z that the
basically cut it short.
>> The Reb cut it short.
>> Yeah. It says like the like
>> didn't want to be m whatever. It was
hard for
>> it was very hard very hard to him
>> and even the first time I remember I saw
his Rashag is dancing his face is white
and like almost like catching his
breath. Actually I heard from Rabbi
Sodak he said join in keer war they um
by day so the reb threw his talents over
his face and there was like fake you see
the reb was not in this world and there
was like
yeah and and could he tried to stop the
reb but there wasn't in this world so
two guys went and held to help him go
around
but generally it was very so the later
years it didn't bother me
I sort of had a place in the front so I
would be able to see the over there. So
I was standing there as a whole bleacher
and I was at the bottom of a bleacher
but it was like and the whole bleacher
could all the way in the front on the
left side. We couldn't see the ribb in
the middle. There was no chance. So
we're singing we're not see you know
don't see the suddenly one of say look
look says what so I see over there on
the one side and everybody's screaming
the faces are red scream with all the
>> that's how it works the people that saw
>> and then
>> and then I suddenly see they were all
catching their breath and the other side
they're red in the face they're
screaming
>> as a minute minute and a half and then
they're turning around and see the was
holding
in his hand
his father's name. I don't remember
exactly
but the other officer there made us work
hard. I remember there was his eyes like
burning you know everybody said there
has blue eyes. I never noticed it, but I
mean there was like I remember it black.
I don't know. There was eyes burning
but not sharp like I don't know pulling
pulling a kayak which was like looking
at everybody but the most which I can't
forget is after the seventh
and the ever came back instead of giving
back the I remember Kogan was everybody
tells me I'm wrong but I remember Kogan
you know from Lenny ground
>> which you just had feature article on
Yeah. Yeah.
>> Uhhuh. So um so I remember he was
standing there to take the safety from
the Reba and put it back in. But the Reb
came back to his place. Instead of
giving the capoter, he went up with the
cifhater in his hand and he went up on
his bimma
and the rebas
waited for the mashbakim whatever all
the guys on the reb's bimma to go down
bend down and the reb started
I have never ever seen a dance like that
and there was jumping
I mean the house
jumping I will not forget at one point I
saw the reb's shoes in the air he was
jumping so much jump it was a long time
I didn't look at the clock but it was a
long time this niggan was just jumping
and jumping and jumping and s to all
sides and oiled
then after the niggan is over. So Kogan
reaches for he wants to get the label on
get away get away because he saw there
wants to sing another niggan starting
yet wasn't as much as
but still um Fre and then there were
takes
and he gives such a kiss I've never seen
they were kissing anything I mean they
were kissed film you don't see it that
much
it was such a a I mean everybody who saw
it you saw so you never seen a kiss in
your life. He kissed the tear before
with his mouth before he gave it over to
Kogan.
>> I I've never seen a kiss like that. It
brought tears to my eyes. I've never
seen anything like it. He such a kiss.
It was like you see the a was
unbelievable.
And it was
guys told me later I was in I wasn't
able to be here. The guys told me if you
had to choose a to be the last one that
was a good choice.
Whatever. Anyway,
amen.
Yeah. And
this year
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