Ep. 20: Sukkos & Simchas Torah By The Rebbe with Rabbi Yisroel Noach Vogel

I have never ever seen a dance like that. And there was jumping. I mean the gosh how there's there jumping. I will not forget at one point I saw the reb's shoes in the air. He was jumping so much. If you've been enjoying this podcast, please like and subscribe so that others can enjoy it as well. In addition, if you've benefited in any way from a monkin podcast and would like to give something back, you can do so today at their.org/donate. I'm Yasi Cayman. Welcome to among an ongoing fabin about life as aid our vibrant connection with the rebba an inspired living shaped by the way he teaches us each and every day. Okay, fine. So, we're move. So, now we have uh which is everyone's only the first day, >> right? Um again before meas those days were quite unevent uneventful I would say um >> before oh you see the >> when there were changed and >> you didn't see the >> changed didn't see the reba too much >> so now we get >> okay so now we get to the highlight of >> at least in my view >> but I want to go over uh whatever The first time I came to the rabbi was day after. >> Mhm. >> It seems like there started on Yuanhaga. The day after Yam they were started to go to the oil. So the day after every Yam >> every Y besides Rashana because it's didn't go on a fast day but um day after in Kipper there went to Lav. So I remember when I came to Saudi so they said actually somebody picked us up from the airport and said then already done was in the aisle already went home so we're not going to see the that night. So first I saw there was but uh and there went also and from then on I think all the years from the after would go to so um um described I mean I described it in the the forerunner for the hair >> the original my first 24 hours by the Reb was like whatever it's interesting I think I think it's archived you get online I think anyway seeing the first time my father admitted to me when the reb came into me he was looking at me not not he wanted to see my reaction but uh funny thing is I'd never seen a video then a film of the reba before I came to the first so I'd never seen they were walking or anything. I saw pictures but I never seen a a video. So I see they're walking in downstairs. So all the will be downstairs besides from Chris also started to be downstairs during tish you know the big island. It wasn't hard to ask the rabban says that I noticed through the years because I remember one time a bus of tourists came. Half the bus was boys, half bus was girls. I don't think they were from but they asked the girls in the in the bus. So the rebbit down downstairs even though it's quite empty but it wasn't hard to ask the reb to down there was an excuse downstairs. or even the you know hats the down because I'm big island anyway um so the reb came into remember seeing there but the first time I would say he looked different than I ever saw the reb before though after that I mean before I didn't see but after his face seemed like glowing it was like I don't know it was different look and there goes this place put some guard battle during Ashri. Not sure when that stopped. I think after >> I discussed this on a different podcast with someone. I don't think we came up with an explanation but had this hug. >> Yeah. >> Put on the greed that would come in with a gle on >> then only. And um yeah, I'm going to cut out a few details. Have to go through every single detail. They're just seeing seeing the right after Mina turns around and goes up to Ardesh touches the paras and Freen le freighen the photographer was there that was his first year first year's official uh photographer. >> Mhm. >> So the as saw him standing there next to a beautiful smile and I see you know you have to learn the hanhagas. I see the Reba smiles. Everybody smiles. Anyway, the Reba walked. There was going and somewhere near the Bimma in the middle of the shuddly stops. It was stopped. Everybody ran over there. By the time I got over there, the was already out of the sh. But the Reb asked Bakar who's taking pictures. Tanya, how much Tanya do you know about Balpe? I mean we went on went over there and heard him tell you asked me if this is an English guy you want like another American eight years later spoke about it I asked him if he learned photograph Maybe I don't remember that one. >> No, but this is this is like this a few times. >> Yeah, but this was like about it. >> Okay. It's referring to that time. >> Okay. Eight years later speaks about it. >> There's a video walks in >> straight over the land. >> Yeah. That morning. Yeah. >> Yeah. The morning. What's interesting that ask the person who's holding the phone the camera not the one who's holding the video. >> Interesting. >> Personally I feel that video you have more to learn. One of the things says you took a picture yesterday took a picture the day before why you take a picture again. What are you going to get from it? So don't hug us which people um they write down they saw such an unhagger different unhagger but what do you get from just taking a picture again? That's what there was. So I don't know my own when it comes to videos there was not so against it because a video does have a >> you know there's something more you could learn from >> it I'm thinking about them theorizing about this more there was opposition from the for pictures and was told but video >> so there are mentions in that about >> right but video later when uh and Kinsky wanted to start the videos. I mean and was doing the videos in I think liked it >> even though in that also there was says satellite. >> Mhm. >> Didn't say the didn't say in a positive way. >> Mhm. I remember when I uh held David Kinsky I think it was you know the one who started gem and he was like uh or maybe it was freedom one of them anyway one of the family was saying uh the first time they have mentions a satellite wasn't positive >> publicly yeah >> yeah so like anyway so I was just saying that this what happened that first men I mean I was there that night there was between and it's the last time it was at tunic. Okay. So my father asks client could you go to so says you just came you already wanted to go to but later later years I found out it was an >> before and afterwards. No no no no be first you hear and then you go to >> even the first the bak who came before and they wanted to go to as soon as they arrived and the freed said after shabas and they were wondering and simpson then he explained he said shabas the now we don't hear we don't hear the Indian shout first comes and then So maybe that was the Indian La didn't have that year because our ticket was the day after is there was no way we could change it. So um we're talking and um my father's asking was there was nothing to do already we there was already he's going to the so I didn't have but the point because of that my father sent me the next year for so another >> because you didn't have >> because I didn't have then so >> I came the next year so I had >> just by yourself >> yeah I mean yeah I went to room by I was twice and very short but was um up to so that night was so I remember the discussing if the um usually afterb would come at 1:00 in those years but because go to the because it's So mama will come at 12 o'clock and they were right. I already told you before about the the goal. So I'm not going to but mentioning I'm not going to repeat it again. And that night was never came back from whenever we came back from the from. So the there downstairs till the end of there would always be a break between even though Mina was late was after but nevertheless there was always a break between after mandal that change started together and even shabas by faban if it was late also together that's a new hanog started el mandal model. Uh so after MA there went upstairs to his room and there was media that the mira will be I think 9:15 whatever and then a courts of faban usually a courts faban meant two hours bar two two and a half excuse me um and uh I told this already before about when I said first time okay first timer they said anyone wants all to go to um especially to show that in the world so should go and beus so to show that wherever he is he's comfortable he's so especially should go to all the different places then going to be another Reb stood up by and then the gave out dollars. It's the first time getting dollars from the Reb. I mean kissed. So I went over by the time I went over in the early years of dollars by Fabangan. It would still be in the middle of Fangan and the Tankist would go around and give dollars. It was hard to climb over the people and especially I wasn't used to it. When I came to the revis gave me a pack of dollars, but as soon as I went off, somebody says to me, "Everybody has dollars already. Take for yourself and uh give me the rest. I'll get back to mosquito." Cuz there were loads of takist. >> Mhm. >> And I tried to squeeze back inside. It was a interesting um and the Reb said to a few to whistle remember you'll see two from is next to me and he's whistling I think said two one after another to whistle by the third niggan he's still whistling he has his eyes closed he's whistling with all his kayak and the looked at him and smiled he was like in a different world anyway then the said um like sing going out of gus started and stood up and made a very wasn't very unusual in those years but it was still an interesting uh thing that's already the night before sukus and sukus used to be a peaceful once before was the Only real frail night was the second night sukas. Besides that it was um >> why the second night? Second night is always for was a moment thing officially. The second night of sukas is because in miglash. >> So the second night was always loads of herangans used to fang the always big fang. The house where I was staying. remember was uncle so he used to come to that suka always for ring and um anyway so um I remember just uh the second night every time most times when there came in that sukas they were saying and there came in there was some on the way to his place and start it was second night sukus they were singing and there comes to his place or puts down the s turns around started clapping turned around to the was like wow it's like a really exciting very unusual that a regular did like that later but did that every that was uh they see because of what happened afterwards and there wasn't with that was unusual but even also there did that and um trying to remind myself now but and there's every especially before so one of the time is and there comes in it's you look the video it's on the tishary video of it which gem came out gave out the black and white one there's a phr video but it's not that good the black and white one push focuses on the reba you see the reb is seriously happy it's like hard to explain is serious for >> that's the >> but that particular thing I mean that looks like what the reb looked like on that shoulder slightly as he's clapping and and as turns around niggan's over and huff used to be the same way turns around then niggan's over hakaf is over >> general is >> yeah niggan >> they say Not sure why >> they say one of these gimmel maybe early lammed say was upstairs came into and seeing Allahb got up on his chair and for 10 15 minutes they say whoever was there will not forget it people saying ah I missed it I was there and that but everybody remembers that >> I think it has something to do with the the with the niggan >> I don't know what I'm saying >> I mean you could say a bunch of Even if the drummer really liked what the like it also works very well musically. I don't know like I don't know >> it's a very >> I thought about it over the years like what's what's this niggan >> I wouldn't know why but anyway that's but there's a bunch of like so also is one of the nonim that um sing it by hakafus one of the nonimony >> mhm >> um where's the others not too many more the hakafas but that change the sometimes it ever changed it especially when he danced by himself in the later years um but generally I say sukus was a peaceful I'm not going to go into the second night was a strange thing it ped from the second night of sukus it poured until part almost did not stop raining I don't remember a single meal we were able to eat was like run in with your coat and eat asked and go out. It was push pouring the whole time. I said settle from the rebound and it's printed. >> Yes. that somebody asked how could you have the if you if you um was such a mat of raining and it says in the Mishna so how could you have so said since you already made the also say even though it's raining say so was pouring the came in said aloud So should hear you say even though it's raining also said if inside right >> so there says since you're already said that day so it can't be that the doesn't accept your sitting in the it's the discussing it's hard to understand this because we do continue also whatever it's >> I think that year they did they didn't they didn't eat but they >> yeah whatever >> inside >> actually hasha knight >> I think someone was describing a mend and he was head out I heard that >> the hash knight so after so announces because the sent all over somebody suggest bring here so I wasn't there you know my friend was a young boy my my father took me home to sleep I have to tell him but the guys went into the suka so I bring it's pouring and they say before the went home they would go home shab would go home by shak so the looked inside the suka and saw ranging and the said >> mhm >> anyway so it was raining so much the shina the reb gave out leak next to his room >> and not in the suka. >> So I got lucky next room. It's the only year that happened was push pouring. later years it happened >> on rabba >> I think no wasn't that the room >> don't think I mean I don't I have to check I don't know >> okay >> but usually usually the came up with this okay >> okay one of the integral components of being aid are the whether it's alfiss or gimmos these days give us an opportunity to connect with ourim to connect with each other and be better. What is the story behind each of these days? How did the Reb commemorate and celebrate these days? And most importantly, what are the lessons, the takeaways, and the action items needed for each of these days? All of this and much much more are answered in the new set recently published by Our Days is a journey through the Kabad calendar in story, meaning practice with over 700 beautiful glossy pages with elevated content, beautiful, beautiful photographs. You, your family and friends will enjoy and live with each. This book is a must for every labamature home, for every schul, for every school. It is a perfect gift item. This will not collect dust. It will be used day after day, month after month, year after year. You can have this set. Go to deher.org/ org/our days order your set today and start living with >> so you're from till >> I just want to mention one more thing was interesting um second day sukus so the first they use of an um the reb would always stand and wait until does their hakafa and then they would start continuing to down. So the Reb would first go make and every behind the Reb but there would stand and wait every single day they would always look all the years. So we're standing it's waiting the khazen he didn't know or whatever the reason was he screams landas the meaning is that you put back the cifer and as you put him back he scream the khazan screams landas and everybody else repeats the pock and here he scream mandas and there was this big in his hand that returns to him like what are you doing so that was uh when the island finished going around the bimma so the himself as turns turns around there started himself she like unusual anyway uh you see okay let's go with some as I said so was um peacefully then till I remember um whatever Um Jacobs called me up the first time and said describe was the end of the maybe not so much the end zcribe tish for no problem I'll describe t speaking about comes to susta he's interviewing me on the phone I said I can't describe susta he left me alone the next year he calls me again he says you have to help me nobody wants to talk about sustri I said you know I'll try as much as I can but it's indescribable so I I usually give the three and I say very brings down explaining the I said the first time he was by the alterb used to do hakus first by himself with uh says the family and then you'll come up to the whole so the alter himself said the whole he was like for the whole and he was kaz for every writ I started to have a little understanding what a yid must have felt felt like when he went to the mikdash le the first time I had such a understanding that's a one one Indian another Indian I'll tell you like this there's a say had a what about had a dream who had already passed away he came to him in the dream so who's in this world says how is it up there he says very good to So this wakes up he's wondering what do you mean shabas and see he thought to himself like this it says shabas is so by every person shabas is of his when you come to he invites you to his shabas his maba is more than your whole >> I was thinking the same thing the rebba invited us into his and that's probably maybe whatever the reason why you can't describe it. you push it, you felt like you're in a different there's certain times that people tell you that or even the moment you're getting a dollar from the reb you suddenly in a different dimension time has a different meaning over there everything has a different meaning so the reb has this the invited us into his his printed in I think it was a book called um what articles just articles from people about the I don't have the book but I saw in the article somebody writes like this an Israeli um you know >> reporter >> reporter so he writes like this for years I've been hearing that you can't describe now I'm a reporter my job is to describe things until one year I decided I have to go there just to describe. But what should I tell you? He says, he's writing this in his article. He said, "What should I tell you?" It's the first time I see something you cannot describe. What shall I tell you? The describe the bleachers of the bakim up to the ceiling jumping up and down. Should I describe to you the way the niggan? Nothing. None of this will give you the the atmosphere the the the a which there is you can't he said first time in my life I see something you cannot describe and I'll tell you something else when I was on to come he's uh he tells me for whatever reason it was one year he was here some say by the he said when he saw some by He says and he asked surely how could I prevent my son from experiencing the same the same experience. He says he traveled specially to the rebba another time. I figured that was sim whatever I travel to the reb especially just to give my son the opportunity to be by the rebus I don't know it's a kite whatever but understanding feeling >> it was amazing just to hear that from him >> I mean after saying that you can start explain describe whatever you can describe you can't you can't describe some by the I'd say most years you know before the reba comes in the night of I mean it's all the same they go into different differences basically um would be at 7 7:30 would start 9:30 after started at 9:00 same thing with they try to make things a little easier to the half hour earlier but in general I'm describing they were coming into hakafas which is more So a lot of the years that I remember was 10 in the later years. So generally they would sing um [Music] so there be a circle people dancing once it got fuller there is no room to dance people you know singing on the place and the comes in and make a shrill for the come through and there is m comes in with a sther everybody I've spoken to says the same thing you know usually the comes with a sther he puts down the s every reme puts down his sid with both hands to doing and the Reb turns around. Hey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And suddenly the whole 770 is like one stick. It's not separate people anymore. Everybody controlled by the Reb's hands by the Reb's movements and everyone's together. It was amazing feeling just all together. And then there starts atarisa. I mean uh there was scream ata the recording there is from mashik from the is nothing compared to that. >> Well now we have another recording. >> Yeah. I don't know if it's I'm sure it's not Loratans. I don't know should mention in public or not but the the the way there was a that you could hear the reb over most of the sh was screamed so loud I remember people even saying I wasn't here but the people saying the way the reb in the beginning was screamed ata also always is loud comes to it's like way louder and then after each night and dayb say the karata three times that's a letter from rash to the rebba asking the rebba to continue saying >> oh so that the letter is to continue it >> yeah that's if I remember correctly >> I thought I thought I remember that it was like okay interesting >> I thought I thought it's asking there would continue Okay. >> Say the people have been saying that they used to add a posum on there. >> Sometimes Yeah. Sometimes no. >> On Hakl. >> Yeah. >> But then they figured out it was only one time that they ever added on Hak, >> right? >> So maybe the other times because of the interesting um they printed um they printed the hakafus, you know, to give out everybody should have copies. They put that in. >> They put it in didn't say it. I remember did not say it. >> Anyway, then to go to the first go, go to the middle. Whoever was close by would wishb they say main reason people would say that. So the reb should say gamatim. >> One time by day. >> It can't be for the ask it for yourself. We're all uh we want to cash in as many brahas as we can. >> Yeah. >> So, one year I actually kissed the secretary while I was holding it. By day, by day was less people. >> Some of day was less people and by night. >> By night was like I remember the first time I was there trying to catch a place. I got the most dangerous place in uh Lamov. It was between the Russians and the Frenchies. danger zone was a little closer to the Russians in the middle night sh also in the middle of the no one of the They're there. Next second they're not there. They all jumped down and they landed on top of one bucker. Had to get oxygen. Before lad used to be near the in the middle where there would dance two huge bottles of oxygen the green you know whatever you call them >> metal. Yeah. Labelki standing next to them. It was like they had to give oxygen. This baka was like and I see one baka standing there. The ventures are empty. You know, suddenly go they all clear cleared out went to the hakafa and they see one bar minus his hat minus his jacket minus one shoe. He bends down, picks up two titets, rolls them from business pocket. They were wild those guys. Anyway, the Russians had from one of the beams on the window of the vibes inside. He had a rope. So the last guy because it's a drop so they had a rope there to hold on to >> the equipment. >> Everybody had their own at those years. I don't know why they would block the Kingston vibes. So if there's any ladies in there, they couldn't see a thing. But I was on top. I had my sweater on because the air condition was blowing right onto me. So I turned it you know the flaps should close somewhere else. So I said, "What are you doing?" Everybody don't close it there. I'm not closing. I'm just turning it like freezing. >> Was good. I mean, night comes in. It was quiet and turns around and then remember the roar of the crowd like began. um what should I say before fabang before hakafus I don't know I was there for first time but my father whatever I sat down with my father on first table nish opposite the rebba came we didn't go to I didn't even I don't know if I knew about it or not doesn't make a difference I was there it's the only time I saw the kdesh by night came in he made kdesh so I suddenly realized I see the Reb like sitting or holding the kais and suddenly I see the going lower. So I guess the was like sort of on his knees. He wasn't sitting. >> He didn't want to stand. No, the whole >> kdesh. >> He didn't want to make the whole stand. >> You thought was sitting. >> I thought he was sitting. So you see they were going lower. >> Made kesh very frail explained. Usually playing. So and um in middle of fabangan says to all of uh in middle of the says uh should sing a niggan of Medina with words from Medina. So they started singing from seven and seven they going out there didn't move as if they're not singing. So they realize doesn't want that niggan. So they're quiet. I guess the discussing what niggan to sing. So the looks to Barl Zman Zman Zish. So he sung a song. I don't know the words were short. No. He sang in Russian. And there was a little bit. And after he finish in Russian, they have to sing something in English. So there was no from the finally I start singing just one just one sh just one and we sing I knew the words from a different song from England I didn't know the tune it's American tune Yankee Doodle >> okay >> I I didn't know the song and so I'm trying to catch the tune as opposite me is old old on the other side of the table zing zing I'm saying the word I don't know the I knew the words I don't know the him. The rep was clapping. Was wow. Mish clapping. And then um said to sing a song in French, a French song with French words was the Reb always used to show him to whistle. >> So I had to him. He had a huge hat. Then he was like sort of a leader of a group of uh Frenchies next to him. So the Reb is right. Looked at him. They sung the national anthem with an extra piece which I hadn't heard before. It wasn't in the right >> they added it later. So they saying that they sang the >> sung the whole anthem with French words and there was there was like that and there was a niggan of mama but not as much as the first not as much as English one >> the English one. Yeah. Not as much as English. Well, there was says of his aim. So I figured there before he said mama is aim. So the mother of all languages. So I saw it to his head. And it came the end of heran. So you have to announce that everybody should leave the should leave the shul to be able to set up for hakus. >> At that time was no kdesh yet. I think that started in mala and something like that came maybe >> a kdish after >> kdish between fabangan and >> office which still does it till today you know. >> Oh >> yeah. So um anyway the so he got up the old Telvki to announce I guess it's a a tradition in Labavage before you make an announcement sha I don't know exactly what happened at that moment I didn't notice but I see label grown telling him to get up onto the table like he's okay he got up on the table he starts again says he starts again says say three times. >> Okay. Just like he was the cousin for always. So he say three time each time this was a raise your voice really [Music] and the is smiling the whole time. So while all this is going on there was beautiful smile then he announced we should go out and then there was you know that's the only time I heard the sing this is no recording but today hey left it's the only time I ever heard that singing this without words just >> you heard that I was singing it >> I heard they were singing without without words >> they sing in front of in front of the >> yeah those times They heard the Reb singing it himself and that there became Tacus. So I mean I'll get into some of them but one of the uh um okay at the end of so instead of the reb going out the way came in from the sides of the tables they went in the middle of the tables towards the where he danced. So he comes to end there's a table in the way which seemingly there will do that every year until ladas. So I I don't know I was dream for a second and one of my friends says look look and I see the re is like climbing up onto the table seemingly the reb pulled a box from under the table stood on the box stood on the table. So suddenly the tables are quite high but stepped up onto the table and as the rebbit jumped down and as he jumped down he went like this and so they I don't know what nigg it was but >> it was blocking the rabbit >> the table cuz the reb walked to the middle so the table's blocking the reb >> so the stepped up they say other years the rebel like swung himself over but the heroes box stood on the table and jumped off but I remember as he's jumping off the went like And then they had to slip rash the Yemen and label slip slip rashag over the table. whatever. Anyway, that was llama 12. Um I noticed something interesting lava during the day fabian and um it's long faban and they're wash say around 7 7:30 something like that and uh I remember 25 to 1 cuz I was standing behind there but then came a little later so I didn't have a place I stood behind and so I seeing the clock the whole time like 25 to one bar there started the mimer It was like it's a long fang six hour fang in the middle of fang was um one year over there his name is uh is from they say he was very very active in ms film so the reba told him quite a number of times at one point I see the rebba I don't know how the cup got to the reba plastic cup the rebba opens the water the picture of water which was for the Reb. And the Rebel poured a little bit of water inside the cup and the Reb handed it to label fill up with wine and he gave it to Label handed it to I guess this was the last cup. He was quite uh whatever. So he stands up there with a big smile like sit down. It was like it's very uh at the middle of the I noticed something again I don't want to be but there was a whole ma that Rab once told us against um how the the reb once sort of explained that the rabbain come to the >> no no in general in general you could look it up and uh he said then they realized the first time the straighten his tie would raise himself up they realized and the ra are coming so having heard that here I see something interesting like at one point the river is like clapping between middle goes very fast it's like almost you should notice like a half a minute or minute later there was raised himself up I mean I saw many there were many times passing from one side to the others the other night he didn't raise himself up >> but here like half a minute after he straightened his tie they raised himself up so it tells you something >> different and like that >> among is brought to you by we live in a chaotic world a world where for us is au we do not have the ability to hear and see the on a daily basis yet we know that the is very much with us and is alive and thriving more than ever before. 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So um before hak I think it is so the turned around to cats who was announcing the who should go to office so the looked towards him started saying something it looked like they wanted to give him an instruction they came quiet but started a sika instead the stepped forward and started saying the sika the whole officer was leaning on his stander and his mid and here stepped forward It's a hak basically said all should go to the zing to show that belongs to belongs to us belongs to belongs to Eden in a sense I would say one of my friends was saying it looked like the was paying back for what he didn't do by the march there was the march was so short he there was like He did mish but the biggest surprise was after the finished took his sitter the started saying the so high pitched I don't know how they're able to reach so high [Music] so high like mommy very very high scream lips and there was uh saying lips quietly you with a small and some people started to sing and some people were shy you know so as soon as finished they started singing he did so much there was actually a beard right in front of the reb's ding and he was going to the like this the whole time with his hand so that made to him also very strong a lot but it was very strong hakafa again even though it was a faban before before hakus but in middle hakus again before hakim. So again the start and this time the said that all those who are um when the army the all different types of maybe all those are different types of the Israeli army should all go to the hakafa. Then the Reb said again in other words he was for that but the Reb didn't go to the middle was on his place they didn't know what niggan to sing so after the finished so started singing um wasn't here whatever I mean was I think they were the special ones. >> I think your hakama was I think your hakama was very important. Give the context. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um I should I say mdalad was a very interesting um night. Usually is like a little contained. The simka is not all the way as big as usual. Knight Tashin Malad there was like so such there was almost bent over double yeah his hands stretched out for bending and his hands stretched all the way forward like so afraid of the the hakas and the next night the Reb spoke about it and the Reb said that with that with um with the alterb when when there was a who should win the war. >> Yeah. the altar if um Napoleon or or um >> and uh it was the sign of Shim whoever blows Kas first and they told the story didn't say the name who was the other just wanted to stress he was a person a person so it's says like >> stressing and he says um so the other this he told his people right away to get there the fast and and when he got to he picked the in his hand and he said I remember there was saying this like loud I the like he did it first >> did it already was called and he he blew for what did I say the the chaer should be before ding just like lulv is before ding then later you take it in dinging again so same thing should be right in the way in the middle then you blow again in Mos but they stopped there was tako because the Romans or whoever it was was getting nervous >> I think I was reading I think it says you're not supposed to do it that early >> not supposed to do that early okay the main reason >> right whatever you do it later yeah >> yeah but the main reason is the said not to because the the go were afraid of making an uprising >> right >> but once you do it in the middle of dinging you see it's part of a ceremony It's not a an uprising. It's not a rebellion. Anyway, that was the main reason. But that went back to the original thing and he blew first. So you see from this says there, but sometimes you have to be in before the actual time. So here we will mock them before the actual time of the so like weirdly thing and to the end of this says because the time before hakus so every ye is able to to bench another ye so everyone should bench and then at the end says to to be um to to say's And then he said and said didn't say name said the next day they don't explain why he didn't say the whole only said has to do more of the bentures everybody it was after between hakoffus between forang and hakoffus everybody's going around benching each other it was like and this kiddish outside you know everybody's eating there but people going to each other and everybody's benching benching each other was at se I mean they were just benching they were hugging each other also >> there was like that's one thing I saw >> it's an interesting thing that I'm noticing from your And everyone talks about the but I two things you mentioned I mean the story of the and also the way you started that everyone felt like one >> so it's like the type of the feeling of brought out you know the like it's it's altogether had this feeling which is Yeah, >> you're saying a mus that you saw. >> I saw a mif. It was the night of >> and uh it was before around time, you know, the the the reb moved out >> for place. There was two benches in there >> and I saw somebody suddenly scream wasn't there yet. >> So the the space for the skin was in the front m >> um no um the right side. I'd say Dorham. >> Mhm. >> And it was called Natsawa Lab of the head of he was um cuz he had something maybe a heart attack whatever it was something something was going on. I remember as they were taking him out to the kids all came they took him on a stretcher and as he passed by them then I was standing like towards the front of the sh o I would say opposite was ding in a sense to the left side of kesh but near the first beam so came out opposite and as as they took him out and I see Robert Lio's face he was on the stretcher face white like a what should I say like a white tablecloth like a white shirt is white get oxygen on you know any next part I didn't see obviously but they say that they took him into the ambulance and they reb that he's not well and they have to take him to the hospital the said don't take him to hospital cuz I won't be able to take care of him leave him here should be by every deting every office everything that night they didn't see him I don't think he they brought him to office that But from the next day, Davening Fabangan everything he was there by the Fabangan before hakus they pushed aside two benches where the sky would sit behind the rebba and he was on there on a wheelchair behind the rabbi by um hakas he's on the reba on a wheelchair. Now the rabbis bimma would be I say wasn't packed it was full of people you know anybody who felt he had a excuse to be there would be on the rabbis bimma they would bend down so not to block everyone it' be full like whatever and he's on a wheelchair a little past the not to block the he's on a wheelchair in middle one of the nigunim and I see there was like looking through the people catch his eyes and there starts clapping towards him and some he was is his hands were hanging over the edges of the of the arms of the wheelchair. You know, it's like on his face is white and there was looking for like clapping towards him and somebody pokes him like look there was looking at you. So he looks up and there was no so he starts clapping. I remember my eyes popping out. I see part of his face which is white starts to get red. He starts to come back to himself. A day after I saw him walking around very saw this with your own eyes. >> Yeah, I saw only I'd say the only time I saw a mus with my own eyes. I like there was making a mifus in front of everybody. Most people I talk to don't remember it. >> Yeah, I never had this. >> There's if you look in there's a yan of that house story. And they don't have the whole story. They just mention he was seen reference asked about him. Yeah. One thing anyway. Um M is actually the first time I saw the Reb showing to whistle on Y. There was somebody the whole coffers was whistling on the on the left side of you. I mean >> it happened before >> the bleachers. See, so the first time you only I saw the rabb >> but here at the end after it was after already the end I said yet they return to the wall they were show to whistle that was like on I remember I was talking to somebody on the phone after yontiff I told them they were said to whistle wow because in the famous not so here it's said to whistling okay some was a big >> the same thing as clamping. >> Yeah, I don't know. It happened even more than that base. There was one time they were set to whistle on Shabasadesh. It wasn't here then. Anyway, um was there told turned over the cup was also scene middle of a coffus and that's also the mishb of the was like looming in the background you know >> I can't say your mom was thinking of it the whole time but in the middle of the middle of fangan there was suddenly turned over his cup I can't say mish noticed this somebody told me he sw like that to take out every up but the Reb turned over the cup and there was starts showing to both sides like what does want they say yan was the first cup and he turned over whatever was next to him then the said something about to empty the ka not to pour out but not to waste it >> then there's the the m the rabbit afterwards >> yeah then the reb um the reb held the kisama for like an hour a niggan everything and I think also they sung and there were there was holding the in his hand >> upside down >> upside down and there was waving the making there was explaining the there was what's of cup upside down so just like on the the puts all the cups upside down what's it upside down just like the windows of the mash light goes from outside. It's the same way the hashb comes from the beam of English to everywhere. That's why the cups are upside down. So is the Indian of he holding a cup upside down. Was like next to me sh is next to me as I was said. He goes, "Wow, like what a beer explanation." I remember in the middle I'm I'm saying on my place where her was more on to the reb's left closer to the back of the shaw and I see on the bleacher on the the other side the arm side I suddenly happened to notice a kid the ber maybe he's 15 years old something 15 16 around that age stop he's he's holding a cup with something in the nashka wine inside his cup. Are you standing and holding and smiling from the situation? And I think to myself, you're supposed to turn your cup over. What are you doing? There's no way I can get a message to him. The split second I thought that the like turn to him when like an emergency showing his cup showing the showing his baka to him like supposed to be upside down and the bak by the way from where I'm standing I'm standing on top of a high bench that there was no mus by um before hakus was especially there was no musk and uh I saw from down there people are bringing in bottles and bottles I figure they said to empty the bottles. It's maybe like off whatever. I saw bottles all different kind of whiskey and drumi and bent tea and saw like bottles flying in. >> So there wasn't a lot of drinking >> generally not from the you know cuz you want to see you want to know what's going on. >> Yeah. But here I think it was a little more because >> Samus was quite I say the I mean they always was always and but me say there's nothing like me was the last time I was here nothing like me >> everybody talks about >> everybody one of my wife's uncles tanum film Ali Tanam he said to me, I remember hakafas from tshin dal. I said, I remember the old years. There never was hakas like never. I mean, it's remembering enough from never was like some say that the reb I couldn't notice from where I was standing. Some say they brought down an old kapata which the threads were coming out like ready for work. All I remember is the first night but I don't remember too much on the first night but the um Rashag was complaining is was cold always gave him the second so this I was told later he was like whatever uncomic what's he want go upstairs I remember they're taking him out during a niggan between outar races And I felt bad for him as they're slapping him out and the Reb starts to be the the crowd was going like wow. And um and this is the first time usually a would be five, seven minutes. Every was 10 15 minutes. The am could not keep up with the person felt it that there was no there was eyes were burning. He was like looking to everybody and like slapping out of you the which you never knew you had. It's like it was it's unexplainable. Now the place where I was standing in later years I couldn't see the reba when he danced in the middle and mostly you know I'd seen the reb a few times dancing with rash he did have kayak later years you know dance for a minute >> yeah it ran in one of the z that basically cut it short >> the cut it short >> yeah it says like the like >> don't want to be m whatever it was hard for >> it was very hard very hard to him >> and even the first time I remember I saw His Rashag is dancing his face is white and like almost like catching his breath. >> Actually I heard from Rabbi Sodak he said joining Kipper war they um by day so the reb threw his talents over his face and it was like fake. You see the reb was not in this world and there was like yeah and and could he tried to stop the reb but there wasn't in this world. So this two guys pa went and held the rash to help him go around but generally it was very so the lady years it didn't bother me to I sort of had a place in the front so I would be able to see the reb there so I was standing as a whole bleacher I was at the bottom of a bleacher but it was like and the whole bleacher could all the way in the front on the left side we couldn't see the ribb in the middle there was no chance so we're singing we're not see you know don't see the ribb suddenly They want to say look look says what so I see over there on the one side and everybody's screaming the faces are red all the >> that's how it works the people that saw >> and then >> and then I suddenly see they were all catching their breath and the other side they're red in the face they're screaming >> as a minute minute and a half and then there was turning around see the was holding in his hand you know there was his father's name in Must I don't remember exactly but the other officer there made us work hard. I remember there was eyes like burning you know everybody said there has blue eyes I never noticed it but I mean there was like I remember black I don't know there was eyes burning but not sharp like I don't know pulling pulling a was like looking at everybody but the most which I can't forget is after the seventh and the came back instead of giving back the I remember kan was Everybody tells me I'm wrong, but I remember uh Kogan, you know, from Len >> which you just had feature article on him. >> Yeah. >> Uhhuh. So um so I remember he was standing there to take the safety from the Reba and put it back in. But the Reb came back to his place instead of giving the capoter he went up with the cifhater in his hand and he went up on his bimma and the rebas waited for the mashbakim whatever all the guys on the reb's bimma to go down bend down and the started I have never ever seen a dance like that and there was jumping. I mean the gosh push jumping. I will not forget at one point I saw the reb's shoes in the air. He was jumping so much jump. It was a long I even look at the clock but it's a long time this niggan and there was just jumping and jumping and jumping and sa to all sides and beinged then after the niggan was over so Kogan reaches forward he wants to get the label on get away get away cuz he saw there wants to sing another niggan starting yet wasn't as much as but still um Fre and then there were takes to see and he gives such a kiss. I've never seen they were kissing anything. I mean they were kissed film you don't see it that much. It was such a a I mean everybody who saw it >> you saw so you never seen a kiss in your life. He kissed the tear >> with his mouth before he gave it over to Kogan. >> I I never seen a kiss like that. It brought tears to my eyes. I've never seen anything like it. G such a kiss. It was like you see the satire. It was unbelievable. Anyways, guys told me later I was in I wasn't able to be here. The guys told me if you had to choose to be the last one. That was a good choice. Whatever. Anyway, amen. and this year. Amen. [Music]