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Ep. 2: The Rebbe's Mission with Rabbi Yosef Greenberg
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In this powerful episode, Rabbi Yosef Greenberg, a Shliach in Anchorage, Alaska explores: • Shlichus in far-flung places • The Rebbe’s long-term plan for bringing Moshiach • The sicha of 28 Nissan and the tekufa that followed • Gimmel Tammuz: Living through it, and beyond • A bochur in 770: First encounters with the Rebbe, the seforim saga, and unforgettable moments • The story behind Yemei Bereishis and the Sichos Kodesh set • Hiskashrus in the post-Gimmel Tammuz era • The Rebbe’s message to Anash • Why Chassidus and Moshiach are inseparable An honest, heartfelt conversation about being a part of the Rebbe’s mission—and what that means today.
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The entire competition was give me a
moment of the
Reb, give me a a ko from the Reb, give
me a a give me a nonb. That was the
whole
competition. People went to end the
world just for to get that one moment
for the reb cuz that one is is
is there's nothing in the world like
that. There's nothing there's nothing
than that. There's nothing like that.
I'm Yasi Cayman. Welcome to
among an ongoing fabin about life as
aid. Our vibrant connection with the
rebba and inspired living shaped by the
way he teaches us each and every
day. Okay. Rabi Greenberg
was hashem. How are you?
Hashem, I got a report that uh Alaska
this year was um the warmest winter. I
know the Reb told you to unvan him in
Alaska. I think uh you you did it
already. The Reb told me more than once.
No. Well, the Reb said it twice. The
first time the Reb said it actually to
Balabos, not to me directly. I mean, I
was with the Balabos. I came with with a
couple and she was Jewish and he was um
convert and he converted in Khan Heights
and there is a whole story I don't know
if we should repeat that story um if you
want to talk about that story there's a
whole story about this Balabos which is
an amazing um an amazing
uh example of the Reb's vision 50 years
ahead of the game I think you have to
say it because I heard the story but I I
don't understand the whole that story is
amazing story because um here you have
two
bimulam who going to Alaska in 19 in
1970 to lammed that was the first time
the rebb sentim to Alaska and was trying
to go to Alaska before that and the
rebba didn't give permission could see
everything
is no he asked for said
Now came out of the Reb's room and he
said, "Lo is going to Alaska." The Reb
gave permission and um and they went to
Alaska and uh it's amazing. They were
here for three weeks. One week in
Anchorage in the big city, one week in
Juno, one week in Fairbanks and they
wrote to the Reb for those three weeks.
And when you read the Duke today, 55
years
later, it's like as if it was written
today because they describe to the
Reb what is the matter of Yiddish in
Alaska. It's just
unbelievable. Anyway, and
um I wish I would have the D when I went
on, but anyway, I didn't even know about
this D. You know how it goes in Kabad
that bim went and they gave the d into
me and it was laying somewhere in and
but what's so important about the d what
does it say in the d so in the d they
tell the rebba how they came to to
anchorage and they went to the Jewish
center in Anchorage the only Jewish
center there was and there was this this
person this balabos he was the the
president of the temple but he wasn't
Jewish He wasn't Jewish. His wife was
Jewish because nobody else wanted to be
the president because who wants the the
pain to run to run the whole place. So
he was the president of of that Jewish
center. It wasn't even yet associated
with a certain movement. It was just the
place of Jews to
come. And and what's interesting, what's
unique about this because he was not
Jewish, he opened the center for them.
He said you could do whatever you want.
You could put on film, do whatever you
want. And the other balabos was Perry
Green who opened the home for
them. Now after a week in Anchorage they
went to Fairbanks. This Balabos wrote to
the Reb, beautiful letter, a tight
letter and I have the letter in he
writes to the Reb how impressed he was
with the Bim, how they represent the
values of Judaism, how proud he was with
them. And he wishes one day he could be
part of this. And then he quotes to the
Reb all kinds of lines from the Mishnas
that you know that he knew that would
represent the values of Jadim
represented those values that they it
was just an amazing letter thanking the
Reb for sending them all the way from
New York to
Alaska. Now the Bim have no idea that he
sent a letter to the Reb. They come back
three weeks later from from Alaska to
New York. Shulangam is a relative of of
Binyamin Klein because he's from the
same um Abishusman's family. Forgot
exactly how but he's from the family. So
Binyamin tells them come into the
office. The Reb wrote something for you
guys. So he comes into the office and
shows him the envelope of this Balabos
who wrote a letter to the Reb. And his
name was a very strong non-Jewish name.
His name was Erling Kushesen.
Doesn't get more dangerous than that.
And under his name, the Reb wrote one
word,
Yehoodi. So now they So says to to Biam,
I will we will write to the Rebel report
that he's not Jewish, but he wants to be
Jewish and his wife is Jewish and has a
Jewish child and so on and on. And then
later they of course they wrote to the
Rebel report. The Reb didn't say
anything about this. That was the only
thing that the Reb wrote about the old
D, the old visit in
Alaska. And then what was interesting is
that 21 years later, this is Lammed
Lammed. I was 5 years
old. I'm finally going. We went here to
to check out this place in the summer of
and the Reb gave us we we asked the
Reb if we
have in Seattle to go to Alaska and
should we be should we look into it?
Should we go to Alaska? And the reb
wrote and we asked the reb should be
signing that the reb made a line a
little line under the wood and label
showed me the line and we knew that we
going. So we went to we went to Alaska
to check it out for a week. We came back
and then eventually we went on like
seven eight months later we went
in and we come here
this is only we came here like two days
before por to Alaska there was a poor
party waiting for us and there was a
whole the whole community was waiting
and um the only person who said to me
shalom was this Balabas and I saw
something unusual with him because
everyone said hi Hi. Hi. You know, I'm
American. The only person said,
"Shalom." He said the words. Okay. Yeah.
He said the word shalom. And I was like,
"Oh, what is this all about?" And of
course, a few days later, he said he
came to my office. He sat me down to my
house and he said um told me the whole
life story how he was he's from Denmark
and during the during the Holocaust, he
was a he was a sailor and he saw what
the Nazis did to the Jews. He was so
angry. When he came to New York, he
jumped the border. He said, "I'll never
go back to Europe." And he started to
hang out with some Jew with some, you
know, Europeans and Jewish kids. And she
was she was a she was a a daughter of a
Orthodox rabbi who passed away young.
She was a she was an orphan. And um
somehow they got involved and they got
married and they ran away as far as they
can from New York because the family was
upset that he she married out and then
they had a baby. with a baby. He said to
her, "Well, the baby is Jewish, so I'm
going to become Jewish. We're going to
raise the kids Jewish." And he started
to study and he he had he's the only
person that when I came to Alaska, he
had a shas in English and a mission in
English. Even get the Jewish press. They
will read it from cover to cover very he
was a very knowledgeable person, very
interesting person. And um so he sits me
down and he tells me, you know, for 20
years I'm begging people to convert me
and you're going to convert me. And I
said, I just came, you know, yesterday
from Yeshiva. I'm not converting
anybody. Not happening. And he was like
putting pressure on me every week after
week after week. And finally, um, I
called brother Milo and I told him the
whole story. And I said to him, "What
should I do?" You know, so Milo said,
"If he knows everything and he really
wants it, bring him. I'll do the
conversion." I don't even know if Marlo
ever did any conversions beside his
conversion. And we actually we we the
conversion we made on on King you know
the old Mika on Kingston and Montgomery
then we do the conversion there if you
remember that old Mika. So, so um going
back to the story when I come to I come
to New York, I come to to Sandy with
this Balabos. By the way, there was a
whole story related to that visit which
maybe I'll tell you later with the Reb.
So, but I wrote a Reb letter from the
airport that I'm bringing the Balabos
for for Sunday for dollars and that he's
coming with me for the conversion. What
you mean? What do you mean you wrote it
from the airport? You fax it? I forgot.
I forgot. I forgot. If I got to I forgot
to write to the Reb before I left and
I'm bringing him and I want I know I'm
going to come for Shabas and I'm going
to come for I'm going to come with him
for I want to write to the Reb. So on
the way either it was in Utah or it was
in Minnesota we found a fax machine and
I wrote to the Reb and this was a few
weeks after the
Mhm. So I'll come back to that story
that the famous story you know I don't
know but you I'll come back to anyway.
So, so I come to to I've come to New
York and I go on Kingston Avenue with
Bella Buzz and Schmoozer comes by and he
sees me and he looks at me. He knew I
went to Alaska. Everyone know about it.
N he looks at him. He says, "Oh my gosh,
that's him." I said, "What do you mean
that's him? What are you talking about?
I had no idea what he's talking about."
Oh my god, that's him. So, he takes me
aside. He said, "Listen, he's the person
the Reb wrote about him in 21 years ago.
And now he's coming to the Rebel and
he's becoming a full-fledged because he
asked I kept I kept pushing him off. So
he said I said I'm not doing conversion.
Then I said to him we only do
conversions in New York. So I'll find
New York. I'll take the whole with me.
So I didn't know what to do. So I said
you know what I only do Kabad
conversions. So he said what is a kabad?
I said with a hat and I took I'll do
it. So you weren't expecting that, huh?
I didn't expect that. Of course not. And
and finally and finally um so we we came
to the Reb. So first so the that morning
we came like a few days before Shabas.
So I I I took him into 77 used to come
those days every every day ding. So I
put him with the beamer with the beamer.
When the river comes
in the middle of the middle of sh came
in I was hiding but I put him there
himself and the reb came in and the reb
like looked him up up and down and then
came by dollars. So the
reb so so I came by and I told the rebba
that he's that he is the person from
Alaska that I brought
here and uh and the reb said the reb
responded
with and then and then I said he helps
after that I said he helps us a lot he
really helps support the so the said in
Yiddish he should continue supporting
more and then when I finished what I
said to The Reb, the Reb gave him a the
Reb gave him a dollar and then the Reb
turned to his wife and the Reb started
all in English and the was then was um
Alb said like this Alaska is very far
from here. They pointed out very far
like to denote but Alaska is very far
from here and Alaska has a Alaska has a
name or gives a cold attention but
people hear them with Alaska.
It calls attention. No, it gives it
gives a cold attention. Ah okay. It
makes people think of coldness. When you
say the word Alaska you think of
coldness. But the Reb said but to spread
Yiddish kite you have to have a stronger
temperature. Which meant that to live in
Alaska you're in the homes you have to
have a stronger temperature to live
here. So when it comes to Yiddish kite
don't think of coldness but the opposite
to spreadsh even with stronger
temperature with stronger vine. That was
the first thing the Reba said the first
time and we saw the Reb with this
balabos and that was in English and I've
explained the message of Alaska to the
world but the Reb's message of Alaska is
to have a stronger temperature in order
to overcome the the coldness that was
the one thing and then later because of
this balabos typically when you go on
you don't come back three months later
to 770 with your whole family you're not
typical no and so but because of this
story is that this story brought me to
the
rabb. So first we had a conversion and
according to according to the ultimate
according to a conversion yeah you have
to wait three months between the
conversion and the and the wedding.
Okay. So typically today there are that
with such a age with people he was
already in his 60s that you could make
it the day after but we did with Marlo
we did it the real way the way the
ultimate way so it took three months. So
after three months we came back for his
wedding and the entire family her whole
family from New York came to the wedding
because and they were all judges and
lawyers and they were all secular and he
the non-Jews
become and they are all the Jews they
are all the secular Jews they all came
and we were supposed to have a beautiful
in the in the in the yard between the 77
between the 770 and the library, you
know, in the backyard in the courtyard
where where usually the suk is. But that
an hour before the we heard that the
chief rabbi of Israel is coming to the
Reb. The Reb is going to the library to
this is this is yeah the Reb is going to
to welcome him in his in his in his
office in the library and not in the
Reb's room because Reb's room had a bed.
It couldn't couldn't accept guest. So we
had to move the entire kopa and fold all
the chairs because the reb is going to
walk there and we went back to have the
kopa in front of the reb's room you know
so bish bash bish the reb had in his
office and the entire anash and all the
bim were there with a huge crowd we had
at the time and we had the same exact
time and you know the microphones are
you hear the older and we and and all of
the guests from New York came from
family, all the secular Jews who all
came and said, "Well, of course, they
also they all crowd. He told everyone
came for this wedding and um and it was
really and that Shabas before the
wedding, we we went to the Reb to to get
a battle of Mashk for the wedding and
the wedding he went he went up or you
went I went with him together. That was
the only time I went for battle of
Mashk." You know, you made the made the
announcement and actually it happened
that Shabbat there were like 50
Bashka and there was like all and and it
took time to get his B was he was in his
60s. He was not used to climbing a
benches in 70. So it was took time to
get him there but we finally got him
there and the reb was almost to a point
the reb was waiting for us but everyone
already got and he's still shleing
taking him from from you know from table
to table jumping people's heads till we
got to to the but it was and the
reba and then and then we also g by
dollars that Sunday and and he gave the
reba album from our activities and the
reb said dying for the album and again
the Reb gave us a very strong at that
time. The Reb said to me
that was a very special at the time the
second time. Then the third time we went
was the same
year we went for because it was
the and somehow we decided to go the
whole family and we went for that was
our heres. We didn't know why we decided
to do it. We just were here the whole
family twice already. Was there saying
there's a fourth yard site, right? It
was a fourth yard site and but I don't
know we decided to go the whole family
and this was the last time we saw the
reb
uh we didn't of course we had no balabos
with us. We didn't plan to you know to
talk to the reb special but the reb
stopped us. When the reb is by dollars
or by the Sunday by dollars by dollar by
Sunday the reb stopped us and um and and
there was every time we went with our
children the rebba asked of every one of
the children in Alaska Alaska and even
asked and he gave a to my
wife a very special and then we left
already and behind us was was Jacobson
um our cousin um Borl Jacobson's wife
with his with Bor Jacobson's wife with
his she's Rabov's daughter and and she
and they had a they had a little child
of Sheresh and they were behind us and
and the Reb already started to give her
a dollar and then the Reb stopped and
the Reb like the way the Reb would turn
and the Reb screamed loud because we
were riding the Reb screamed
loud. So we turn around, we ran back and
the Reb smiled. The whole room filled up
with the Reb smile and the Reb
said we were standing frozen because
like it was such an unusual uh it was
like a real like like called Yi that day
after after Dallas and he said to him,
"Oh, the Reb is like Alaska has a
special."
Yeah, I was about to say.
There's something about Alaska that uh I
mean it's always like is all over the
world from Alaska. It's always part of
the actually it's interesting that inim
um you know that came out so there is
the hagd the introduction to
in the for some reason in English they
wrote they wrote from El Paso to
Anchorage that was the media that paid a
few ago that happens to be your
brother's
in but you know the the reb has a
special co in in in but the the for
there's a few ago on that very same page
like a line after that where it
says that the
reb saw it and um so the
reb to
toim in the far far corners of the
world and there's a very famous
for where the reb talks about it in in
length of of the famous story which muer
the old story so the rebuer
the old story which mufer that he um was
the was the head of the head of the bisk
in Israel the and he was a member of our
sh inbak he lived where I lived I grew
up as a child with him and he was a one
of the biggest he lived in all his life
and he was a speaker he was he was one
of the greatest speakers of kabad if in
kabad events or out events he he was one
of
of in Israel and we grew up as children
you know with him in his in his
presence. So he always told the story
about how
infur to New York to be by the reb he
couldn't go he couldn't go for t because
t is when school starts and he has to do
registration and the whole thing in the
classrooms but what so anyway so he
decided he'll he to go for he comes
for he comes for he comes
for calls him inv said to him you have a
special from the what's the going to
travel to Minnesota for purim. He came
to the Reb for Purum. You're going to
travel to Minnesota for Purim and then
you'll meet
Mashella and with him together you'll
travel to to Iowa that little town in
Iowa and there is a Jew there. There's a
Russian Jew there who became F and he
asked for that someone should come to
read the migilla and he'll call all the
Jews in in Iowa to come to the McGill
reading. So you will read the migilla
for that and you'll go with myella and
you'll read the migilla my fellow will
translate in English and he'll explain
and he's like I came to New York to the
rabbit the rabbi is sending me away to a
little town and he went there and of
course the rabbit said he went he went
there and he said he was shocked because
two Israelis walked over to him as they
were married to non-Jews and um and
there was a he he always says how they
told him yes they're very into Judaism
so I said they're into Jews or they into
Judaism anyway and and and after that so
he said every one of them was like
intermarried there was nobody there was
both of them were Jewish small community
now there is a there Jacobson there is
our campus city but it's even today it's
a small town compared you know and
anyway so so he comes he comes back so
the next morning he had to fly back to
New York so he had no minion you I had
no minion to come to, you know, and he
flies back to New York and um half a
day. So he comes he comes to New York,
it's already the afternoon. He didn't
hear the migill yet. He goes to his
brother's house in Williamsburg and
someone read the migill for him and
finally he ran to the Fabang. He came to
he thinking to himself the whole
day why was I punished I came to New
from Israel. You know those days to fly
from Israel to you know what that meant
to fly from Israel to New York. It's a
big deal. It's huge. And I'm coming to
the Reb. And the Reb sends me away to a
little town. I mean, the Reb could have
sent to Baham there, right? Me and my
need to go to a little town, a little
and then comes from after the Reb old
and the Reb start explain that what
spoke about that
may that he had to show his in all the
27 countries.
And and you have to and when when do we
know that the is running the world? When
you see it in every one of the 127
countries and that speak about about the
in the small towns in the kat table and
the rabbit speak about the people could
ask the question why put so much effort
in going to small towns in eve where
there is maybe one family three families
when the same money the same energy you
could do in a big city and affect more
Jews beautiful about Rebbit has to give
several answers says first of all in a
big city there are all the Jews who
could help them. So
here because nobody else will go to the
small town and there is if you heard
about this town need you have to go you
have to go and do it and then after all
the explanations the says in a big city
there are many Jews who going to help
him but in this place if not you who's
going to help them then
and then the end the reb says which
seems like the ultimate answer the reb
says that this is That year when the
rebal in that year after the six day war
theb explained that
that say
inash one
is that's one post and then there's
another post of that it says that there
be there be a
which god will be ston so the reb said
that the one apostle spoke speaks about
what the aisha will do the bigish will
waken up the nations of the world that's
world war I world war ii that was the
for after after the six day war that was
spoken and
then is about the six day war that what
what happened during the six day war
that many many Jews all over the world
were awakened to
So
there says that when do you know that
you're getting ready for
Mashiach when when you deal with the and
the
when you those who are
and when you deal with the then you know
but the
first but there were to to big cities no
in the beginning of course Of course
there was there was I mean the first was
to Morocco which is in a certain you
know in a certain way at the time when
most Jews left Morocco as they were left
with without everything. thought from
Morocco was definitely a mochid to a
certain degree. You see um
want everywhere. No question about it. I
saw this also as a hit from the Reb at
least then I remember once um as I was
in Miami they um I think I think I heard
from Rabbi Shapiro from Shapiro that um
they asked the about opening of the
Ga and the Reb said I don't remember the
lion but that tonight that there is no
other yeshiva that exists already in
Miami and there wasn't so that
So you see this
thing but there is one there already.
Let's open up a place that doesn't have
you know I think that's
connected. So the Reb said at the end
the Reb said at the end of that said to
everyone said like this as it
says said who has what to
give and they will give to all the are
sitting here and do not want to move and
go out of here and go to and go to so
will give them to the and then the said
all the and then he turned around and he
showed him to stay in a big
felt that said to him
like even though he was aided from bene
who was always going to sh with a migill
in his hand you know like the
boss to feel the feeling of being in a
little town and and dealing with Jews
are intermarried and giving being given
there
the says when do you know the Messiah is
coming when the when the when you start
to deal with
and you find them and you bring them
back. I have a question. I think those
years it's very about those years in the
end of
the you don't see it so much in the
llamas. Why do you think? Well, it
depends if I think in the mess when
you're I think the Reb starts speaking
it again a lot, right? What the what
when the Reb spoke in my in my years for
example when the Reb
said when was singing very strong and
after that the Reb
said what is the tellsum you're singing
you should know what
is go conquer every every corner in the
world so the did start again to speak
about in a in a very strong way in an
unusual way from from the mems it
started started speaking about right
after after the after the immediately
after a whole campaign a whole huge
campaign of kabad established that was
the the shabas started speaking about in
a very strong way
about the two and spoke one shabas about
about the new step to build by building
and the next is that we spoke about what
is that
the are with us that that's the can go
so the reb you don't know why you don't
have any from the upon him or something
that you think why the didn't speak
about it so much in the lament well I
don't know what does that mean so much
the spoke the l the lb spoke more about
which is another form of that's how the
rebb got All an involved
in is all other form tank the tank of
the that's where the reb got the so it's
a different it's another form of that
the reb started in addition
to the reb like the rebb almost like
took a new a new initiative how to
mobilize every one of an men and
children into into the work of a by the
way they brought the kabad when was
speaking strong
about also tied it in and it
means but also the whole was on making
every home a bas and making every room a
bas that's in the mess. Yes. I'm saying
even when the is speaking about he's
making it
applicable like the said you could be
one of the
says but then way gets into the whole
well he does the
opposite speaking about the concept of
negate to anybody to everybody in the
end says those that
are so and and you could and you could
see it you could see that And if you if
you familiar yourself with the work of
the Reb that there were many many
accomplishments that Kabad accomplished
through people who were
not I I saw there's a book I forgot what
the book is called like it's like an
encyclopedia of like about Judaism. I
picked it up. I found it somewhere from
the lammed and it has a so there's like
a bunch of pages about labavich bunch of
pictures of the
rabbi those that were I forgot the name
of it but I have it at home but um they
have a list of all of the allab around
the world there's a Dr. Lucans is on
there.
There's people that have worked in a man
that are on that are on there like MK
and there's this this representative
that representative not necessarily I
think today we it would be you know
later the the greatest accomplishments
major accomplishments for Kabad were
done through people who did not you
would never believe that they are
connected to Lavage and they they they
were able to be in such places that no
Lubava and no was able to be that. The
reb there are countless stories of
people who have been in positions where
they was spo for example I give you one
example I want to I want to first tell
you the story about my settle from that
visit from from here I told you before
so when I wrote to the reb from from the
airport that I'm going this was three
weeks after the
famous spoke
about in 200
Again at that time there was among to
that all theim should write the rebel
letter that they all accept the rebal
and uh and of course we all signed and
we were looking for ways what what what
we didn't know what the Reb meant with
that s I remember I remember when I when
when I heard about the sik it was a
surprise and uh my brother Scholam was
now in China called me you heard the I
said what happened. He said, "Go listen
to the so I ran to to call and you
didn't have a you didn't have a I had a
hooker but didn't have the ch at the
time yet to call everyone because it was
a surprise." Okay. So So anyway, either
I was in a meeting I was in already. So
I I I listened to the I heard the I was
the all night with my friends on the
phone waiting till the morning till
morning in New York which were me 6:00
in the morning but you 10:00 to see if
the Reb came down to Davin because it
was such a shock that you say you
thought that the Reb that's it
I didn't know what to think because that
you thought you you thought that I was
afraid that the Reb is like making here
major changes because like
And I'll tell you why. Because because
because five years before when I was a
Yeah. There was a very similar to to
that was basically basically similar to
that. The Reb said that now is the time
that he's going to give over from the
the mission from the leader from the Reb
to occur to the generation the
generation. And then nobody understood
what it meant because it was a very long
an hour and a half and many that about
different science in the world and
everything two weeks later.
Is that the same?
What talk about the Adam bomb? The
same. Yeah. Yeah. So, so two weeks
later, the
Reb started speaking in such a sharp
way. Why nobody understood and nobody
did anything. Nobody reacted to what he
said. And the
reboke very similar to the of
and and but was about himself the why
should he come downstairs and for with
he could lock himself up in his room and
he could better do better things learn
for himself d for himself anyway doesn't
affect anyone with this thing there's no
results so when I heard that I was like
I said oh my gosh who knows what's going
to happen here and it's interesting so I
thought the Reb is not going coming
going coming going coming going coming
going down when I heard the Reb is
coming down I went to sleep and it's
funny I just saw a talle from the Reb
that the Reb writes to someone I just
saw it a few weeks ago came out of
settle and and someone wrote to the
rabbi that people are very confused and
I'm very scared and this and the Reb
said and oh it's um either it's either
it's something that Rabbon the Reb and
the Reb said I came down the next day to
Davin I continued everything so the
interesting was like
because I was literally afraid that the
Reb would not come down and the Reb said
the words I came down the next morning
to D. So what happened what happened to
the you wrote you signed this letter
about the So I wrote to
the mush because we already I felt to
myself if I if I signed it already. So
when I'm writing the to the letter I
have to write with that. Yeah. And when
I came to I came to New York I didn't
expect to get an answer. So I came to
New York and Mesh Shabas I went into
label Goner to arrange that we should go
by dollars not with the regular line we
should go the whole family together
because I have a balos with his wife so
Rabos was sitting in the office so label
tells me I need to tell you something go
out with me
he didn't want to hear that so he comes
out with me to another room and he says
listen the reb saw you settle he turn it
over and he wrote
down and will come let him
like when the Mashiah will come you dear
like you you let him know so I was I was
in total shock and I said to label me
I'm not even involved what
happened I know I could tell you stories
from today to tomorrow but what happened
was but now I'm not even involved you
send me maybe you did things you
shouldn't whatever
But now you're just you're just
following the I'm like so said don't
worry every one of the people involved
got this so this week. So but one second
but there were people that wrote like
that that the didn't uh write anything
about it. No he said this week that
week. So anyway so so later on so when I
came but I was afraid the next morning
to go to Dallas I didn't know what's
going to happen with Dallas. I thought
such a like oh my
god. the Reb was in such an amazing way.
So that's known.
So that's what were the Bakam saying
when the Reb
said about the why do I come down? What
were the Bakam saying then? Oh, actually
there was a very strong reaction to
this. Um
um very very strong reaction when the
Rebel left the the sh um we made an
announcement a few and we spoke about it
very strongly that um all was still
sitting at the top. Well, you made an
announcement what like like that we are
so disappointed and we are have to do a
noad to do to to to make what the reb
wants and nobody is doing whatever wants
like we were like and um and the next
morning we made
a just came down from Israel made a
miach that's the that's the mimos no no
that's different that's different what's
mim was before that that's a bad special
for mashia in to bring mashia. The
reb that we have to do things to bring
mashia. So anyway, so we went we went
all over all the went all over the and
we raised money at that time. We raised
$10,000 with a lot of money. Lot of lot
of money for Baka, young Bak. And
um and of course we wrote a letter to
the Reb and Moses signed the letter that
we're going to make a new vad to the
Mashia. And anyway, Kamu someone in
didn't like it that it's already a
second vad we are making. That's one
thing the mim what's the story of the
mimos. What's we'll come we'll come to a
second. Yeah. So, so, so they were they
were very upset and
um and they wrote to the Reban of course
and it came out a very sharp settle from
the Reban very sharp against that. The
Reb said if you want to do things there
are existing organizations just join the
existing organization and help them but
there is no need to do and the Reb wrote
a line very interesting line you know
every time when the Reb um the Reb comes
up with Gurus in the there is the the
Gill in that old settle very sharp
settle very very sharp settle that some
part will show it to me that's how sharp
it
Um so one line was there an interesting
line. The reb writes in 1987 this is
like 37 years from the rebes
The Reb is just starting to
build in the
future. You guys want to build. So says
from making from taking away someone
else's
thing. You want to do it, do it the
right way. But I took from it is
the he's building just like the Reb said
to to to Prime Minister Netanyahu when
he came to the
Rebin on the Reb's house. They came to
the Reb. The Reb said to him, he said to
the Reb, "Thank you for all the years
that you helped me." Yeah. The Reb said
to him, "I'm just now in the beginning."
He thinks the Reb said, "I'm just in the
beginning of my project." And he says to
the Reb, "I'm also in the beginning of
my mission." And he said, "I'm coming.
I'm in the beginning of mission. I'm a
person in the beginning of his mission."
And the Reb kept saying, "I'm just
beginning now." Right?
So the reb is just building this I'm
saying it's related to what's you know
where we are
now saying you're saying he's saying
this is the this is the plan the whole
time that was the reb's plan it's to him
he's starting and the truth is anybody
who had a to be by the rebba I mean I
had a to be with the reb like almost 10
years when it was when I was a 17y old
ber till I went to I was 26 I was like
10 years by the reb by theans the Reb
every
thean would come down with such a fire
and would speak about a such a fire as
if it's the first time he said it ever.
I mean a a a person who was not involved
in a fatza like a a like a person from
Khan Heights who just came from his job
and came to probably his would turn
because the reb is speaking like it's
the first time he's going to conquer the
world the wasn't like oh we worked
already for 35 years now we could enjoy
a little bit second but I have I don't I
don't I have a question this is
Now, now it's happening,
right? How does that fit with the
whole
that I mean the way most people I mean I
was alive but I was not with all my
faculties
but and my own family and many others.
What do you mean nift
whatever it was it was the end it was
the height that that
that's coming so there's no there's no
no plan for 30 years you're saying it
now well how does this fit I I'll tell
you it's true it's true to a certain
degree but it's not true meaning for
example when I when I passed the
Rebal and the Reb told me
he didn't tell
close the kabad house because mashia is
coming in a second and you're left to
sell the kabad house. He gave you a
mission for a long time. He gave me a
mission. So what does that
mean? And not only to me like like for
example when David came by to the
dollars and he gave the
after and he gave the an idea what was
the idea the rebb should go to the d
with all the from and the rebb reacted
very strongly. said, "I said that now
it's I'm asking you for ideas. Don't
give me ideas. You should find ideas
what to do." And he was got scared and
he said, "No, no, no. I didn't mean it.
I didn't mean it." And the Reb said, "I
I met him once, by the way, and I spoke
to him about this, but yeah, whatever.
Keep it off record." Yeah. So the Reb
said I don't mind people giving me ideas
but
says people are using the all those
ideas to go to the way wanted to make a
fast and have
sist what do you mean
epist to do is the reb's work that will
bring mashia only that there's no other
gimmicks but the the
old and the old from what the meaning of
the is really that means the saying 35
years I'm begging you to participate in
my work
of and to understand that each person
must take upon himself the
responsibility the to the world upside
down and bring Mashiach and that's the
only way there's no shortcuts and the
Reb said inshin that he wants They have
everywhere in the
world. There is no shortcuts here. One
second. But one second. But the rabbit
did say
rightb said before was that 100%. What
what it means is just like you know the
famous the famous line that that goes
around that said that uh that um he said
that he was there to see but he was not
what does that mean when the when the
reb started the day that was the new the
said the said about
that that means the started
For
example, the
rebates of open and if all
the
go would come already. What does that
mean? That means like this that there is
the there
is there is the potential of Msiah
coming every day from the
start and every year became more and
more and not only that the process
the process of BS has begun and the Reb
spoke in Toshi noon about the connect
the dots. You remember that ad in the
New York Times with connecting the debts
the simony. What does that mean? It was
a mashiach, right? And like a tracing
with connecting all the all the all
the seed the fall of
the behind that. So what's called the
Kai foundation Kai foundation right and
Rabnik sponsored that. Yeah. So, so this
this whole idea meant that Mashiach is
already we we already see the pulas of
Mashiach in the world. The world is
changing. So not when when we say
Mashiach is coming it's not something
that happens overnight. It's a process
that's happening. Of course there will
be the B of Mashia that will be the Gus
but this generation and especially from
the Reb started in such a strong way to
speak about it and meant that that
Mashiach the world is starting to change
towards Mashiach like we see the last 30
years things that we never saw before in
in in any level if
it's I mean things today that happened
happen in in our in our days that didn't
happen before could not have happened
The rabbis spoke also about worldly
things, right? The fall of communism. Is
is the world still progressing
positively that way or absolutely
absolutely you could see for example
let's talk about about the in
okay when the said 50 years ago I was a
child was when when Sadat came to Israel
from the president of of and president
of Egypt came to Israel the first time I
was a kid in the laf I was 13 years
You have to understand that from the
airport in Lud and Tilosim the Israelis
Jewish the Jewish people were standing
in line to welcome him. There was a line
of human from Lud till and our yeshiva
came also out the yeshiva came. Yeah.
Yeah. They didn't know that doesn't like
this. Everyone knew the yeshiva came.
Yeah. Everyone we we we stood right
outside the yeshiva. We didn't have to
go anywhere. We won the main on the main
road. It was like a human chain. a
human. It was such an excitement as as
if is coming. Why pieces came to the
world? I remember as a kid was in the in
the synagogue and he was singing from
the from the on the
radio everyone and you were embarrassed
to say that the reb is against the
peace. You were embarrassed to say that
because what do you mean? Mubarak wants
to make peace with us. Why not? What's
wrong? How could you how could you speak
against
that? And now fast forward 50 years,
October
7. Now the whole world admits, where do
you think the weapon came in? From
Egypt. From Egypt. Not only that, the
the son of the president of Egypt, Aisi
son. He is the one who made who made a
certain tax certain amount of money on
every shipment that came in the tunnels
to Gaza.
So Kilo the people who made peace with
us are the people who brought all the
weapon for us to kill us until today
they are considered now there are many
people who say that they are planning a
war against Israel now cuz they broke
every rule of the peace process and and
it's all over the newspapers but it took
50 years but the Reb saw 50 years ago it
took 50 years for the whole world to
admit it today from the Turkart to to
Shimmer
from reform to the most orthodox
everyone admits that the Reb's truth is
the only truth. So this this is a part
this a process of the of Giles to see
the truth of that when people can see.
So you're saying
that says and everyone's feeling that is
coming
today should have come today because
that's what the rebba says that every
day doesn't come there's no beer at the
same time had a plan for the next 30
years I would call it like a back
plan that the reb had two plans and how
what do I base it on there's a famous
letter from the
rebinud 19 in in 1952 the Reb writes a
letter to Israel to Kabad everyone
understands what Israel was in Tin B a
little country just started off and the
Reb is writing to Kabad the Reb said I
have a plan I have a plan to conquer
Israel to conquer Israel with
that's
the however I need to know if Anash and
Israel are willing to join me or
Not. And the Reb says, "If they're
willing to join me, I could do my plan.
If not, that means we are not yet and
we'll have to wait for later."
And then the Reb writes, then the Reb
writes, I want to have an answer from
every one of Anash to write in a closed
envelope, in a closed letter that nobody
else should see it and they shouldn't
come complaining like the way they
did
before when they said there was a peer
pressure. So when the rebanded from
somebody why didn't you do what was so
he said oh I'm not I'm not a real I
signed it was pressure from others you
know everyone is signing should he say
not sign is good so the said this time I
want a personal letter from each person
are you willing to participate in my
work or not and whoever is not going to
answer the says you I I will count him
as he doesn't want to so you can't say
I'm not answering either you say if it's
a yes it's a no if you don't answer it's
a
no and mish we could only imagine I mean
when I was a bak when the kesh came to
Israel so the biggest the biggest
accomplishment was
all the from the you know Rabbi Galitzki
Rabbi and their groups they came to
Israel the biggest everyone talked about
there's a famous letter from the rabbi
rabbi said them the first priority is to
be raonim if they can't be raonim there
should be
and mosski was involved with with the
chief rabbi rabbi goran to get
them you have to
understand if if the anash would do
whatever wants you could have made him
all over Israel nobody wanted to be
anywhere who wanted to be you could have
alash in every city in Israel you didn't
have to beg in in dem from chief rabbi
to give you a position of
arov could have conquered Israel could
have Let me see in he's
saying the rabbi says we're ready now
right still waiting is still waiting for
us it's like the letter you know the
letter that came out the letter that
came out from that the rebes I don't
want to say the name doesn't matter the
name the rebes to in in
California and the rebesites are all
letter to him and to two letters that
came out so one letter the reb writes to
said, "I I heard a person came from from
California saying that you and your wife
are complaining there's no Jews for
which there's no Jews in California.
There's no Jews. There's no Jews.
There's no money. There's nothing to do.
You can't do anything. And the only
thing that you could do is you have a
plan to buy a synagogue for $40,000. You
have to understand
Lavich passed away in so there was a gir
in Chicago who gave the $10,000 of the
mortgage of 770."
Robin Robinson Robinson here the little
wants to wants the reb should give him
$40,000 to build that to buy a shul in
in in Los Angeles 770 doesn't have money
for 10,000 770 after 10 years of 770 to
buy a and so the reb gives him a old
letter the reb gives him ideas this
letter if we were hiding this letter
because it's it's personal right but if
we would see this letter 30 years ago
the Reb gives ideas to him you you are
in Los Angeles it's now summer make a
day camp the balabat team will love to
give you the kids they have nothing to
do with them after after the summer make
a day camp you could make money from it
you could become a leader then the says
them there's a university go and offer
yourself to be a lecturer onidism you
speak English well speak aboutism then
ask rabbis who don't have they would
love to use then the says make make
services forashim announce take our
hotel announced that you'll do with
speeches in English and you'll have
you'll sell seeds you'll make money. The
Reb gives them ideas how and the end the
Reb says but if you are not going to be
happy to be in there's no point in you
being a you know suffer and and baker
about it just come home. So either you
are taking it and you are happy with it
if you're complaining we don't need it.
The po came back took another another 20
years for the rebun
27 year so theb so the has a plan and
the rebb's needb wants buy in from from
exactly so I was discussing on a
different conversation we had over here
I think that's what theb is
saying
that I'm I'm serious about this this is
literal so do something. Do it.
that the Reb means business and and
therefore all the famous that the Reb
said about the fourth level of where the
is a responsible person on his own and
he makes decisions on his own meant that
you take it remember the Reb said and
the Reb smiled the Reb said that uh
about started a project said he doesn't
want people to start writing him letters
what to do and then said he's like noi
said I'm willing to go but so
even to jump into the water. He didn't
want he wanted them. They should pick
him up and they should throw him into
the water. The Reb says he come guy
comes say I'm running to but the should
do everything for me. The should pick me
up. The Reb should tell me to do right
or to the left. Reb says you take
responsibility. You figure out yourself
and be happy with your work. At at a
certain point in the first first few
years theb told people to go on after a
certain point the never told anyone to
go. You have to ask, right? Right. And
the and the Reb said clearly in the Reb
said he's not going to say anymore what
who to go and people will have to ask
themselves and and they should want to
go because the Reb wanted that people
should feel partners in that that they
that they that they feel the to go not
that the Reb tells them to go and not
that he goes only because he's going to
get a compliment from the Reb that he
the Reb wanted the people should buy
into the idea what says what is the
Reb's work in the world that you are
that's that goes all all the way back to
the
famous when the Reb finally accepted
the Reb accepted
when saying when the Reb accepted it as
a date as a as an official because the
Reb you know the first three years you
know no one knew that the Reb came to
America came out and all of a sudden we
we saw there is a letter from the Reb
from the Fikb telling uh one of the
lawyers who helped bring the Reb to
America that today the Reb came to
America that my my son-in-law came my
daughter came to America and nobody knew
about this nobody made a big deal even
the was hiding it the right of didn't
say a date of and nobody ever told him
make a big date even though the Reb
never made an official for on Tess but
every time it was Shabas around Tess or
Shabas he spoke talk about every time,
but he never made a special date.
Whatever the reason is, we don't know
yet. But the Reb didn't never made a
date of right. There wasn't like an
official
fab just uh we just we just published
now a safer that it's come it's on the
way now from from China a safer of all
the goes through all of the dates the
history what happened what happened on
the date and also there's like
um what the said about the date so
there's how do you know what a date is
how do we know how when we're compiling
it whatever the spoke
the spoke about So we know it's a date
of course the rabbis's brother we know
it's a date because the spoke about
it also right
so the rabbi didn't speak about in the
early years and
then came out and there was a young man
from Israel his name was Rabbi Solomon
and he went around 770 showing everyone
the kesh and saying why we don't make a
big deal about it but we still didn't do
anything about it then the next
year And if you think about it, it was
like was like two days before the
famous of the of the about the man.
Yeah. But this was two days before. We
we didn't even know about the meeting
then. You had no idea that the whole was
happening there. We knew there was a we
knew ones that there was a meeting with
Kabad. Nobody is allowed to know what
it's about, but the Reb will speak about
it in BAM. That's all we know. Everyone
knew that. Okay, that came out somehow
because you know when seven people go
into the Reb's room in Toshim hey for a
meeting that didn't happen in many many
years and a never was an active
organization in that way having meetings
with the Reb. Yeah. Yes. So, so, so it
was it had to make waves. So, it became
known but nobody knew what it is. But
two days before with the Bim 770 was my
first year as the Baham 770 we decided
myself as Liberov and a few other we
decided together that we are going to
make a foren and when the reb came in uh
to to my we decided we going to sing a
song at those days the reb used to come
in
upstairs there was no singing nothing
there was it was still the waste of even
when even when Zafi was there there was
no singing only when he was Salman Jaffy
even in the middle of the week he
wouldn't sing. Only if there was a pag
or something downstairs if there was a
pag. Yeah. But singing is downstairs.
Upstairs is Yeah. It was like the Reb
comes in comes out. There was a very
um I mean we'll later describe Min
upstairs very very special. The Reb was
sitting at that table was very unique.
It's very special. But anyway, so so
there so we decided what what what
niggan do to we sing which niggan should
we sing for we decid the same of because
that became the became so this was rel
was redeemed from from the holocaust and
was saved
from that's I thought about anyway the
reb comes in he started singing and you
know it's it's seconds the reb comes out
of his room and he gives da to the kids
it's seconds the Reb heard the singing.
He came in, he made his hand. The Reb
could have ignored us right away. I
mean, it's like the Reb out of the
ordinary. Yeah, it's middle out of
nowhere. And made with the hand very
strongly and uh that was enough for us.
And that night was a fab. You know how
big the fora was sheni in upstairs.
That's how big the fora was. And we fab
all night. And the next day by we sang
and again maybe the hand and that was
the beginning. And then
the bakim or there was a big just the
bakim and then
tim um that this is the first year we
decided to make a really big deal we got
together we are going to make a big
faban a real big you know a huge event
just
like and it happened to be that that was
shabas of shabas and it was also a yl it
was 45 years from when the from the
rebbitson came to America
from a mamish Friday afternoon. And I
decided to make a
ch and uh what was the ch was just a few
letters for
the about the and also the rebal test
order the year before a about the coming
America but he connected it to the
new that started in America not just
about about the saving him you know but
this so I took that put it in and uh and
the was a very special for the Reb and
the Rebbitson were coming to America and
we gave it into the Reb. I ran upstairs
to Shagalov. It was he had a print shop
there from
and he immediately immediately agreed
and um and we worked together. We put
those you had to put the letters, you
know, it was not the computer everything
was and we put the aash and we printed.
I came I gave it I gave it to to
Mosquito. I gave it to give it to the
Reb's room and I put in the tables. So
the old shabas was already uh you know
beginning of a and then but if I bring
it so we we gave in a bottle of mashk to
label and we told label the miralik will
come up for us we're not going to go to
the reb for this so we asked alik so he
said yeah no yeah no he couldn't make up
his mind then shabas by day he start to
get cold feet he's not sure he's not
sure maybe the reb will not be happy
with that he's not sure the first the
first the reb started all s about
because so always spoke
of about going out of of jail you
know but here the reb took a
turn because of the came out of Russia
because he came out of Russia he came to
America and then he started all about
the coming to America it was very clear
that was about this so m turn around he
said I'm going to go up no worries and
then when he went up the famous story
that he went up and he gave the battle
and the Reb said to him to announce it.
So he had to announce what it is. So he
said
that we we invite all the to come to in
honor of the Reb coming to America. So
the reb raised his hand with a smile and
he said issue. So he thought he thought
Reb meant that he should invite men and
women to come. So he said again all
invited. So they were very laughing and
finally Yale told him that I meant so he
stood up again and he said that the
island invited the Reb and the Rebbits
insh came to America was a big so we
right away saw there's a huge Kov and
then the Reb gave an answer every year
but the Reb to speak officially about
that he didn't speak
about it was again
Shabas and then the Reb spoke about it
and the Reb started from with the Reb
said that uh since it's already three
years and uh it was already many many
many have done this celebrated this day
of even and we saw good and said it'll
be it'll be a ham a big ham from those
so so therefore the
reb was accepted and it was done and it
was good so the is going to speak about
it started also bringing on this and one
of The spoke about is that we spoke
about just now about this whole idea
what the Reb wanted from what the Reb
meant in the
meant spoke about what
is the word is what is the what is the
strength of what
is gives and what
is and they even start to work with the
is the day that ends of the end the
gives you to start your work. So
is gave you the and you start
working you start to do something with
the and the said but everything is
so is the day when
the were sent to to check out Israel. So
the reb all about this part said the
famous
question
says if you want send if you don't want
the as the
question was
used everything was
commanded said if you want s if you
don't like oh my god says something is
not right
here things didn't go right so why did
he do it and then the said by Yeshua
said the again if failed what is he
doing it again and the reb gave the
answer which is a very very powerful
answer but the
oldb said that was very very happy when
the told
him because it was a new till now it
was commandment the first time says I
want you to choose
it and the
reb there's two there's battle
commandment you have to follow listen
what me tell you and
the but the most the very dear
is you choose
it in theb said a similar thing that we
should want and ask
for not not because I said right so it's
a the same so you're you're saying
basically
that said things that he already
said just chose to say it
clear it was shocking no there was a
line that the reb never said that line
is I know the line that I I did
everything I can.
Yeah. That
that line he never said and that I and I
that I completed my
work
like I'm
done that everything my mission is
complete and now I need I need you.
That's what's left is you have to jump
in. What you didn't do for 40 years, you
have to do now because you what you have
to do, I can do for you. You have to do
it. So you're saying in in in the
lane is already the is already there in
that I mean to a certain degree of
course. I mean nobody didn't think that
then. Oh, nobody thought about it. Of
course not. To us, it was 100% sure 100%
sure that Gimmel Towns will never
happen.
100%. Never. But because and and it's
and it's an attack didn't
happen because what whatever as the Reb
explains in the famous the
famous that you know the famous story
brings from from the from the famous
story the brings to about that when all
the Eden went to for
for only a few Eden were left and they
didn't attend to the minion came and uh
and then he Then it disappeared and then
and then eventually he came by on his
dream to the ro in the town and he said
I was au I just couldn't handle to see
the pain that you have no minion so I
came the asked the question how could
you minion all the it's very nice came
but it's not there is you know like the
way the rebin the rebb was doing
a
pin the did before the did a yeah people
asked him so you say the rebba is here
and there is a place for the and there
is a and everything sobbs
yeah so it's like there
is so we have to do it so so the
question is
said and the same thing asked about he
used to come every Friday night to to
make kish to family. How could you might
say it's all good and nice, but it's not
an Islamic goof. How could you? So the
Reb answered that question that when it
comes to the Nim, they came to the world
only for their generation, only for
their people. They didn't come for their
mission, their is not for themselves.
And therefore when when they have
anos, they continue their mission. There
is a there is a separate reason why they
needed to why their goofi needed to they
get to get another so but they are still
continuing. So when they come in a goof
they are part of the minions they are
considered as
if you you knew this giml
what do you mean if I knew this? What
are you telling me now? something that
this is you knew this right away or giml
giml we were broken to pieces. We were
in total
shock and uh when we when I was in
Alaska and I heard of gimlamos I took my
whole family we were supposed to have a
a day camp that that next Monday we were
supposed to have a day camp. It was our
first day camp for our preschool. We
left a a note on the door that we left
in New
York. Sorry. And we took the whole
family went to the airport mat shabas.
We bought tickets on the spot and we
went the whole family to New York and we
did not know if we will ever come back.
We went to New
York. We were in total shock, total
broken. We we had no we couldn't think
the whole the whole flight to New York.
I didn't eat anything. I didn't d I
didn't do anything. I was like I was in
total shock. And every airport we
stopped in two airports. every airport
the all the screens all the television
screens CNN were all about the Reb
non-stop non-stop there was no WhatsApp
in those days no cell phones the the all
the screens were the rebbit and I
couldn't believe that the that the sun
is shining and that people are eating in
the plane I just couldn't believe that
that the world is still going on to us
the world stopped and I came to New York
they told me don't go to 770 the the
Levi is already going to the oil I came
I I went I from the airport in a taxi
the entire the entire highway from
Kennedy to to the oil was was blocked.
You couldn't move. We were standing like
an hour and a half couldn't move
anywhere. It was packed with cars for
all and Jews and from Jews and finally
we made it. They they we couldn't go to
with the cars. They wouldn't let any car
in the all the exit to the area. We had
to stop by the main by the main road. We
had to walk all the way. And I had a
suitcase with me. There were two uh male
bim who came to the funeral and they
come over to me. They said to me, "I'll
slap the suitcase for you." Cuz they saw
I was like slapping. I had two children.
My wife was we were like we were like
mention we didn't sleep the whole night
because we were we were up already from
the night before. We didn't know what's
We heard the smoo already. The rumors
were coming and uh we were just walking
all the way up. I came there. We
everything was locked up. You couldn't
even go in. We were standing outside and
uh we were standing there and I must
tell you there was a very um when I came
finally to the oil and I was standing
there I
remember standing next to me. We all the
sukas. We all made ka. And
somehow there was like a little bit of a
a feeling of the reb's presence that
that gave us the c to to all done. I I
don't know what it is. And um I mean
later that the moment when these talos
there is
the t the rebb's name was all over the
world that day all over the news we
spoke about the
reblo and uh and then we I came in there
was a line to go in everyone passed by
the oil and then there are two options
you could have had one option to go
behind the oil and sit there or go
outside. So I went behind the oil and I
sat there and then and then I stayed
there for seven days. I stayed I stayed
on there was no there was no there was
no house there was no tent there was
nothing. We were standing there under
the trees. There was other bim and
there's other people there also. Yeah
there was a bunch of bahim and people
and no in the night there was a whole
the whole night people came. First I was
I was I was uh I was I was sitting
somewhere next to the next next to the
oil but then I was already three in the
morning and people came out people and
five people and it didn't look good. So
I I moved backwards nobody should see us
people don't understand but what are you
laying here anyway? So, so we were we
were going back we went to back and we
were staying there and I remember the
next morning after after the stalkers
someone came with a with a copy of the
Reb's letter from Tshin that uh it's
only and that's only so and the reb is
really with us and not to be spo and I
remember this was gave us a lot of and
the you guys were talking to each other
the next day we started talking to each
other yeah And uh we were sitting there
in groups, you know, and uh and we were
there the the whole week uh sitting
there and so we didn't know what
um but uh but you know as uh as we sat
there next to the we got the strength
back and Shabas I went back to New York
to Kites and there was a form of all the
on Shabas and some people some people
stayed by the shabas. So yeah, I was
supposed to stay with the shower there,
but I was pressure on me that I should
go back after seven days being there.
And um so I went back and um and I was
there and uh and were talking and uh and
I remember my saying he said that u he
saidim that the elidim had a hard time
after his talas to move on to the next.
So he said you know we theim we went to
to to to mas to see Shiva theim the
young was staying at the oil said so we
made a mistake we have to go to the
oil and that's when he understood he
switched that it took him a week to
understand that he has to he has to go
to the you know that that's the place to
go that's where the reb is and uh and
then we went back and we had a big event
for for a tribute for the Reb and so on
and that gave us the credit to to
continue but this
was you know we were sure that will
never happen. You have to understand
when you anybody who saw the
Reb anybody who had to see the Reb and I
saw the Reb the first time and I was 11
years old. Anybody who saw the Reb, you
saw
a a
presence that you knew that this is not
human. you knew that what you're seeing
is nonhuman and and everybody like when
I was a little kid and I came the first
time to the Reb and I was my my father
used to go every year to the Reb and we
had the Reb's pictures and everything
but when I saw the Reb the first time
was worth t-shirt of the first time I
saw the Reb was
like it's like I was in shock in shock.
How old are you? You I was 11 years old,
but I wasn't I wasn't probably a typical
11, but I was 11 years old. And I mean,
and I come from, you know, from
from saw the Reb, I was in shock. I
couldn't believe it. And the whole month
of the Reb like, you know, the
expression, we go for the market, the
Reb like like a like a vacuum. I was I
was I was I was hypnotized to the Reb,
glued to the Reb. I you have no idea. I
mean I was I couldn't and I was standing
right behind the Reb. My father had a
place in the first line behind the reb.
Your father came every year
most I mean some I mean in the early
years he start then he started he didn't
come in the beginning of year but can I
interrupt you for a second? Hold your
thoughts. I just I'm very curious. your
father didn't wasn't
born
right but he he seemed to have this
like but he never even grew up with he
came from Russia howass
well in two in in two words to say my
father became aassid at a very young age
at 13 years old and and the reason why
he became aid because when He ran away
from the Holocaust with his
family. The only place they were able to
run away to be safe from the Nazis was
to Tashkanta Samakand and in those
cities in in
in those cities in Beakistan in those
cities the only organized Yiddish
underground was Kabad. So any FJ Jew
like my great my grandfather was a FJ.
He wasn't but he was a very very
dedicated from Jew like he was a he was
aid like a
general he was a my question my question
is not how he became there's the is more
there's many stories like that there's
more like that than than than whatever
that's not my point my question my
question
is this uh this like deep this is this
because because he was a snashin my
father So when he was when he was in
jail, he was from the very few people
who did not eat and he did not book on
Shabas. Most people couldn't stand the
pressure and my father was so when he
went to the
Reb for t that the Reb said that all the
Russian Jews should stand around him. So
my father you could see the famous
picture of Raelki bringing a balabos to
the reb this picture
it's like a New York Times picture there
are three pictures there and each one of
those pictures is like a painting it's
such an unusual picture and you see my
father is standing between Ben and
Futafas and he's standing literally one
one foot away from the Reb like
literally one person away from the Reb
and you could see how he's watching the
Reb became glued to the Reb so you could
see that he's and the first time he saw
the Reb he
became like fire but he was of the also
in Russia without seeing the just by
learning
from of the he had was and other people
right right all the way there in ink
in all those were he was a kid who grew
up on there he was when the rabbis are
saying
that at Paris. My father is one of those
parents because he was not in the Phil
was already in America for was already
in America and he grew up he grew up
raised
by and he became and he be and he had it
was I always say about him that he is
aided that the was him. Mhm. So because
when you go through 8 years in jail and
you go through my father went through
you.
So didn't speak to him at all. I didn't
mean anything to him. So he wasn't
exposed from anything anymore. Okay. The
reboot. So let's go back to tough. Yeah.
Literally I was
um I was literally taken by the Reb's
presence. Like I became aid. The Reb
made me aid that second when I saw him
the first time. I remember we came to
New York was for and I was lucky that my
uncle I kazan was a baka in 770 the in
Rome Italy now lost his son um and um he
he started the whole he created the
whole empire
of in Rome and he had made a so anyway
so um when I came to New York I was
11-year-old kid and he was my uncle Bak
in 770 and he came to the airport to
pick us up and he pulled us a 770 and
first memory for 770 was all the bam
standing outside green the grass
beautiful grass outside and I asked
where's the rebre went home I was so
disappointed the reb used to go home
after m for for lunch
with and they said don't worry the reb
is coming back the reb went twice by
lunch and by supper no the used to go
only by lunch and then at night he used
to go very late at night like uh you
know didn't go home didn't go home uh
like supper. No, no, no such a thing.
Only the rabbi used to come so in the
summer to go home at 12:00 at night. In
the in the winter, the rabbi used to go
home after after like after after mim
about like 10:00 or something like that.
But the Reb used to go in middle of the
day in the summer to for for lunch after
Mah a little bit after Mik sometimes
5:00 depends on the times but the to go
once once a day will go back home and
come back to 770. So thatish went home
after after Mina and we came and the Reb
came back like an hour later and uh at
those days the Reb used to come from 7
to 770 if it was middle of the Seder
nobody was outside and even not the
middle of Seda the Reb used to come in
and come out nobody was allowed to be in
the old park so people used to hide by
the behind the trees but nobody was
allowed to be like in in front of the
reb so the Reb came the Reb's car came
he was standing And inside the door was
open and came with the Reb and uh the
Reb came out. I went up the steps only
me and my father. There was nobody
there. And as the Reb came in, the Reb
took out money from his pocket. Reb like
the Reb stood so
strong before the before the heart
attack. The Reb looked like mish like a
king. The way he walked it was
unbelievable. And he like Reb has strong
movements. He took out he like moved
this little tok took out money from his
pocket and he gave it to me in my hand
and I felt the reb's finger you know get
me like strong and he waited for me to
give it to and then he started dying
thank you and every day the would give
me da and say to me thank you the reb
would say to you thank you. Yeah. Every
day as if as if the Rebi would say thank
you to every kid that he told him to
give money to Zak because that was that
was a seda then that was a sed kilo
thanked you for giving him for doing for
him the of the mitzvah to give.
So he was saying by dollars by dollars
you see the kids telling the dank. Yeah.
No no no this was before before I mean
when I was a bo already you're right.
When I was a ber when I came to senity
gave his dera to everyone never said
anything. But when I was a kid, said I
dunk every time he ga and and that
t that t I became like I became the the
bre and of course the the highlight was
the of course the was the highlight
because because no typically the when
you most times when when a father came
with his son they will first speak to
the parent and then speak to the
children. It was the typical, but there
were exceptions, several exceptions. And
I was one of the exceptions when we went
into
the so first we were in the beginning of
the to be starting from 8:00 p.m. and go
all the way till 5 in the morning. Then
would have when you hear when you hear
that would have 5 a.m. I think it was
usually like time when there's so many
people, right? That was even Well, even
every 5 a.m. Yeah. Okay. 4 a.m. 5 a.m.
Because we talk about in the llamas
already there was so many people wanted
to go in. So no matter when it was it
was packed. No matter when it was. Maybe
in the youth there was short night but
in the llamas there was no such a thing.
And that when I was there with the there
was night after night after night all
week all week if you wanted you had to
stay until your appointment. Right. We
we stay we stay but not because of that.
My was my father made the ticket longer.
So, so the was the of course the
highlights but the entire tish I mean I
could sit here all night to describe
that t what
I went to so we went in so first we were
in the beginning because I was a little
child so they gave me the to be in the
beginning when we standing in our line
and all of a
sudden says that the person who was
supposed to be and didn't make it yet
and if we have if it's okay with us to
go in early so my father said sure my
father was jumping always so so some
people were not I'm not ready yet I'm
not I didn't say because day you would
go to the mikvah you would fast all day
even as a child I fasted and I put new
clothes and everything is was like a you
you prepared like the way prepares to
day that's how we prepared for all day
fasting and saying and dvening and going
to the mikvah again before the by night
the mik is to be open everyone should be
able to go to the mikvah before and and
I could tell you when we went
in I was so afraid there was such a the
Reb's the Reb's uh demeanor the Reb's
face the Reb's eyes was such mama there
was such a I was shaking till the Reb
didn't start talking to me and I calm
down I was like I was like and also that
was when you looked at the that was like
a feeling
always Whenever the Reb was in in
public, if it's Fabran or it was
Phyllis, when when they used to say the
Reb gate, there was announcement the Reb
gate, it was a room there was like can
you describe this a little bit? What?
Um, but but the Reb's presence, it's
like it was like a like I said, it's not
when when you saw the Reb, you didn't
see a a physical person. There was a
like a shine like a light that came with
him like a like a oh a that came with
him like a real pad was a real feeling
of loose that wasn't st it was like
therefore no picture and no video could
do justice to it because that's the real
thing when you saw the real thing it's
like standing by here in Libra as the
real thing it's you can't it's not a
video is is there are some good videos
that really give over a little bit of
that shine but the real thing. It's a
it's beyond beyond words. But it's a
like means like afraid
means physical afraid and spiritual
afraid are and all together. So it's not
it's not like a like a that's explained
like that's like a cover. It's like it's
like a different feeling. It's not just
it's more than that.
It's a real it was a
real I remember. So that that's why
Bakim at least maybe it changed later
but Bakim always was hiding from the
course of course because when the reb
looked on you you why why did later some
bakham start sticking their face around
the because people wanted to see the and
there was no anymore and people won't
have that closeness to the rabbi the
feeling of closeness so when you when
you stood close you felt the reb is
looking at you so you felt that that
you know what I mean so people,
everybody, everyone in Loavage and
everyone in the Jewish world wanted to
have a piece of the
Reb. The entire competition was give me
a moment of the
Reb, give me a a ko from the Reb, give
me a a give me a non the Reb. That was
the whole competition in people went to
end the world just for that one moment
for the cause cuz that one moment is is
is there's nothing in the world like
that. There's nothing there's nothing
that m there's nothing like that. So
people would do all life just for the
get one smile from the because that one
smile is more than anything. There's
nothing in the universe that could
compare to that. There's nothing, no
gold and no silver and nothing. So, so
people, so we went
into So anyways, I was very afraid and
as we walk in the Reb, the Reb buzzed,
Reb had a buzz around his table. We hear
the buzz and label run in and the Reb
shows label the list and Reb says why
there's a change in the list like and
label explain that can we make it and he
left and then we gave
the my father gave the settle then I
gave the settle then the start to
me
says can you say that you learn the day
or yesterday or the or or the day before
or or or before that and I closed my
eyes. I was so scared because the bim
prepared me because my uncle because he
was a ber he brought me into among the
bim. So I was I became within two days I
became like a benb among among the bim
among. So I felt at home in 770 and the
Baham kept telling me the reb is going
to test
you and then they also there was a one
question the Reb used to always ask all
the children about how many cities there
are and they told me what to
answer BL they prepared me the question
but they told me the is going to test
you where to prepare and I was so scared
you can't imagine I was scared from the
I was scared was going to test me and
after all I was just 11 years old anyway
I went into the I went in and so The
Reba said it. I closed my eyes and I
just thought what I'm going to say to
the Reb and I was just came to my mind a
Mishna in the time in we learned two
gears and one unit. So Makas we learned
the
youab we had a very small weas. So I
said the rebish mak was about
about the about if someone if someone if
someone if someone kills somebody what
is his and uh and if he if he kiss goes
to go if he gives me does miss whatever
book the mission we
learn and the reb start ask questions
and one of the questions I remember the
rebin in New York how do New book if
someone will kill somebody what was it
but there's no there's no bas and
there's no golus and there's
no there's no mikl and then the asked me
one other question I didn't understand
what I was
asking and the reb repeated again I
didn't understand and the reb moved on
and uh then the rebba said to me
um reb said the first thing the said
vers is
th even though it said in the talle I
think the so I was so nervous. So I said
and the Reb
said is and I didn't understand what the
Rabbi asked because what does that mean?
Like how old you are? Yeah. But I didn't
understand that. So my father explained
so I said I'm 11. The said is the name.
So I said to the rebish this was three
weeks after the
rebu and you gave his docker and I
didn't remember so I was silent in a
second p says don't revenge
shabas so you couldn't give us der like
you couldn't give us d even if you
wanted it and I was I was I was like oh
my god thank god I didn't say anything
so so the said shabas I
Arab I didn't remember. So my father
said to
the my father meant to say that I used
to get in the reb every day. So probably
I got that day also. So the Reb laughed
like not didn't smile he laughed and he
said
only laughed
like he was like laughing you know and
then and then the Reb said um the Reb
moved on and then the Reba asked the
question how many cities do you have and
I said can saw that I had already answer
And um but for some reason the asked
every child that
question and then and then I heard that
I heard that
the I think it was I don't know if
this might be wrong but I think um I
think Zev cat gave him the situs the
kiss.
I don't know maybe it's connect there
could be a connector there is also there
is also something in that famous where
the rabb spoke about the cities there is
something about cities the from the from
the when the when the when the when the
toldb
there is there is a line there about the
cities whatever is interesting there is
something about cities the cities helps
protects you from all kinds from not all
kinds of. Mhm. So anyway, so there is
something about anyway. So then the Reb
said then the Reb um Reb told me
um the Reb said to me, the Reb gave me a
dollar one to give here. No, the Reb
asked me another question. Rabbi said to
me, "Do you say tim do you say till I
said to him?" So I was like I was the
head of the inabas in our father was
running but I was running on my father.
So to me it was like a question is
asking me if I say tim so I said sure.
So the
reb like me is the shield till him every
day. That's a whole different story. I
even say to him like Shabas and the
Shabbas but the said
doctor. So I I was I already said sure.
So I didn't know what to say. So the Reb
said they are fine.
So you started Yeah, of course. So I was
fine. So then so then the reb gave me a
dollar to give him and a dollar to give
him and then the reb gave a long gave me
and the rest I didn't remember was a
long the questions I remember but the
rest of the and then the reb speaking to
my father for a very long time we were a
long time inside there was some there
was one question that my the one thing
my
reb my father didn't understand I
explained to my father what the reb said
was like a I had a relative
My father asked for him. So the
said he writes to me that means he was a
teacher and my father didn't understand.
The reb said again and again again. So I
said to my father the reb said that he
was a teacher like a a few little things
there. The looked at you and you said
yeah and I when the finished talking to
me I was trying to look the reb's room
you know I was a kid. There was chaos
and as soon as I tried to move my
eyes, the Rebel like had his eyes on me
and he locked me up and I was not I
didn't remember nothing from the Reb's
room. Only the Reb's eyes. Nothing.
Barely maybe the table. That's it. When
I came in after Gim, I didn't recognize
the room. I never remember the whole
room. I always I heard this from Kama
Vakama. That's the same thing that they
came in Africa was the first time they
saw the room. I push it and I was there
for a very long time. I push it could
even I heard I heard this even from
somebody but he was involved
medically after
and he told me the same thing that today
he sees things in he didn't notice and
he spent hours there. Really? Wow. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a it's a I mean even even
even a simple thing like like a you know
770 when the reb was in 770 or now when
the reb is not there and I never
understood what is it until I saw the
reb was there it looked huge
I coming after it looks so small I
couldn't understand what is this and the
rabbana writes
man when the Reb comes into apartment
the 10 minutes the Reb is in the
apartment the apartment looks so
big the Reb the Reb's presence it was
like a like
a a ghilly air the Reb used to come in
and everything looked like wow
everything the Reb touched was wow
everything much like I'll I'll never
forget when the Reb sent the keys to
Yank that moment that's the sent the
keys the All seven was like glued to
that second to the Reb because the Reb
did something which he never did. None
of us ever saw it. And the way he did
it, what we saw from the Reb's face
coming that second was
like anybody was there was a glue like
you you you saw something unusual. I I
still remember the Reb's face and how
the Reb does like this and he and he
sends it to him and I still remember the
Reb's hand and the Reb's face and the
Reb's lips when he did it. It was
like because it's
it's not st. So when you see that you're
like you stand like in shock and smiled
the entire like for example when the
used to say a story for Yeah. The old
770 would drop silent. How do we know
that the Reb is saying a story? Usually
before a story starts smiling, a little
smile on his face. Stop
his a lot that the Reb laughs at the
thing or smile before he says a thing,
right? And there was a there was a there
was in the second because Reb mostly
didn't tell stories. So when the rabbi
told the story they was like even even
people who didn't listen to a word of
the because they didn't understand they
were too tired they didn't have a brain
for this but a story from the reb they
were like and and it was draft like even
though the spoke it was quiet but there
was a whole different quiet when the
start telling story um back to the the
whatever in the early years you listen
to the said something that there's a
certain that whatever that that there's
a tus you hear people laughing like if
reacting to what the Reb is saying in
the later years you barely hear it and
if you hear it people are saying
sh but but still when the mood changed
right but still when there was something
really really uh unique even in our
years I mean not as much as earlier but
but still the was like there was all of
a sudden there was a cheddar and like
was like talking to each other like
people will like would talk about what
happened now like it took a moment till
everything quiet down because it was
like wow especially between the not in
the middle of a it would be totally
silent but in between the sikas if there
was something like that that would say
something loud I mean I remember for
example when Rabbi Glasman's father came
to 770 and he
decided close to the end of the niggan
he decided to sing a to sing a new
niggan his niggan
And the didn't know his and the was
like trying to and the reb said help the
other and then the reb looked down and
it said because he realized that nobody
is singing he quiet down.
So those moments when this happened in
the middle of the sikas between the
sikas people would would chat with each
other like you can you can hear it on
the recording the says um they start
singing I think he was
sing but maybe he didn't sing it with
the right tune or something so then
start singing it
says like halfway
Yeah. Yeah. But anyways, so going back
to this uh to the um so this was the
highlight but the entire tish entire t
the reb was m of me such an amazing way
like for example uh I was a little kid
but for some reason there was only a you
have to understand there were only six
seven kids from Israel
that seven kids was and the American
kids the kiters didn't come middle of
the week to 770 they had so we were
sitting in 770 all day long we had
nothing else to You didn't go to No, of
course not. I came to I came to the Reb.
So, I was sitting in the in 770. So, I
saw the Reb coming and going nonstop all
the time. I remember I'll give you a few
a little thinks that Marshall one day I
was standing in in I was standing in in
Zal upstairs and my uncle with the Bim
was sitting was not is not does not. So,
they were sitting and ching on the on
the on the Reb's table. you know the but
the table where the rabbi used to sit
the bak used to sit there
upstairs so they were chatting and I was
standing by the by the edge of the table
near the door and I'm just listening to
their jokes and whatever and all of a
sudden I feel somebody's looking at me
so I turn around I see the reb is giving
this duck and he's like looking in to
see what the b are doing so I said the
is here and everyone jumped up and the
reb heard me say like you're like like
moved out like as fast as he can and
like he disappeared you know I mean so
it's like such moments when you have
with the reb like you know what I mean
it's like you become like um within
within days you you
so when you were back when you back back
at you're the only one that experienced
the rebba amongst your friends amongst
my friends yeah actually uh in my city
my hometown there was never a child who
traveled to the rebba before I was the
first child my age. Your father didn't
bring it. I think you're the you're not
the oldest. The first I'm not the oldest
but before me um he never brought
children to the Reba. I was the first
child he brought to the Reba and and the
people in my shul the elderly people
could even understand that first it was
very expensive in those days and they
couldn't figure out where my father gets
the money to take not only to travel in
cell but to take even a child but then
they would they would tell me when I
came back the older people told me what
did you understand there what did you
heard there like they couldn't
understand why did you why did your
father took you a little kid to the to
go to with a little kid in ga and I
remember how my friends I had only a
very small group you know my friend
Matila the one who made me Melik and my
friend is Orlando from in Toronto I
would I would like give over to them and
I would even we would even imitate how
it looks the would make a table with a
with a with a stand there with a with a
be we imitate because they never saw
there was not even videos of the Reb at
the
time the first video that fre took from
the he came to Israel After that they
started to show the videos. There was no
there's no movies from the Reb. So we
never saw we only saw pictures that's
all we never saw. So I explained I would
I would tell him
what I I was sitting in you know under
the Reb's table when the Reb came to his
a and how the Reb took the children so
seriously. You see how the Reb made
children that when the Reb would reb
would hold this they would make with the
head to the all the all the par the
paramedas of the
all the bleaches and the same with the
same kite it's not like to the children
he just smiled with the
same you know the way the Reb's face
looked by a
coffer with the same atmos with the same
gilluim with the same spirituality that
he did to the to the elder he did to the
to the kids with the same and I I still
remember till today that is more than
all the I saw after because here I was
standing right next to the Reb cuz I was
a child that was under the tables and
made such a big difference if he stood
really close. Mhm. But you stood really
close to the Reb. But you didn't go back
to the Reba for years afterwards. Right.
Right. until I was a bo and when I came
to stay for for good because I was not
one of those bim who knew how to raise
money and knew how to how to make jobs
and I was a battle so I didn't know how
to do those things so I went and I when
I was when I was your father your father
brought other kids other kids was when I
was 16 16 and a half that's when I went
to to New York but that itself was
unusual to go 16 to to learn in New York
no well yes my my older brother my
brother Nafi did And my brother Solic
did it. So I followed their footsteps at
16.
Yeah. This came from your father. Your
father wanted my my probably my father
encouraged that. And uh but we all
wanted that and it was our dream. My my
uncle Hazan. My father, my father went
to Meask who had a and he told me that
he's going to be the guarantor that he
will give back the money and my father
sent them to to the
father your father raised
he didn't raise him but he was the uncle
and the family influence he was the
influence and he sent them to New York
and then when we came we had reb my
father was a big believer on going to
the reb being there on the stage. Yeah.
So you went al I went to I was in shima
and um I remember the first what what 16
I was 16 and a half I was I was 16 and I
almost miss I was I was in in Zal I was
in Zal learning with my my cheer was
galitzki and I understand so so whatever
I was I was younger than no I was she g
I was younger than the other kids. Yeah.
You you jump because I came from Lud. So
in Lud I already finished the shikana.
So you know I was already a year inad I
was already I was already I was already
almost 17. So I was already a year in
Kabad. So you know so I was a one year
inhiv and then I went then I went to
from Giml I went to
to
Seattle the two years and then and then
when you came back you already
yeah I was 20 I was already beginning 20
and everything shifted
because I'm saying it's Well, yeah. But
before before this forum, there was a
good portion of Tshime, which was an
amazing an amazing amazing year. And uh
Topshimme was still the Fabrangians and
the Reb, the Mina and the
whole was still like in the MEMS and the
laments and it changed with a with a
court case. What do you mean? Many many
things have changed later. Um it was
still like um like a there was a there
was a sense of peace and and joy you
know that we saw from the Reba and the
old 770 was a different 770 like this
the swore took Labage with a
storm and it changed Labavage forever.
the story of this forum that the dan not
and it did change because the all the
dan was about the future we didn't
understand it then we didn't understand
why the reb is investing so much in it
why the reb is taking it so hard to hurt
so much you know why it's worth it why
it's so much worth it to to uproot
entire labavage for this
forum like what's what's what's
happening today years later when we
listen to the sikas and we see the what
but the reaction at that time we just
felt that that there is a there is a
fight there is a kung against the reb
there is a a position to the which is
clip position and we have to fight it
and we have to win it and we won we
didn't understand the real application
what really it meant what like just like
I said before that the reb like to the
reb was 50 years ahead of the entire of
everyone
Even with this forum, the Reb was way
ahead every one of us, we didn't
understand what's behind it. Like we
see, you see now the Reb's moves, every
move the Reb like I said a story about
this this Jew in Alaska that the Reb
sees 50 years ahead what's going to be
with him and and what's going to play
out. We little people don't see it. So
when the Reb says Mashiach is coming
today and the Reb means that that that
now he's planting the seeds for the
coming Mashiach and it's going to come.
This is the process to bring. So he's
saying
so he's saying the
the like the brought out
like not just for then
but for for for right in other words the
happened because of the preparation for
the future that itself it needed it
needed it needed to happen needed to
happen because it doesn't make any sense
why it happened then it doesn't make I
mean you know from a logical point of
view the the the the nephew should have
come and demand the books in the youths
when he had when he had the balabatim on
his side the balabatim from the yeshiva
when he had say it came out of left
field what 25 years later you come
asking for it what
happened but the was it needed to happen
there is a famous from the
from where the Reb speaks about
the that the famous Moshul that a king
that he that he when he when he's
the all the all the treasures that his
parents and his grandparents had and he
doesn't show it to them but when there
is a war is and then the Reb says and if
that's not enough what else is the king
willing to do that he's willing to
give is willing to give his life away.
The Reb says that the king is willing to
give
his why because what is the
real of the king? What is the real life
of the king? What is the real of the
king
is that his will his mission should be
fulfilled. So the king is willing to go
to war in order to win the war. Even if
he gives away his glue in order that
should be his is real should be in the
sky. So we when you listen to that to
that you hear from the Reb what's going
to be the Reb says clearly that the king
is willing to go all the way and give
away
his in order that his will should be his
and and you could see the po the Reb was
begging people to go on was saying
after and when really was the pre when
was really the real storm of began
That's what I said before about
the when when is the that
when that what is the
ultimate but you do it because you want
to do it and the said
then said that it's such
a that people should have the the the
ability to choose that even if you make
a mistake it's worth
Even if the will mess up, it's still
worth it because
the nobody could do it for you. Only if
you could do itb the ultimate
is that
we choose to do it. So the reb the gave
us a
newb starting a new and what is the new
abs that when it started when is the
true started only when were not there
only by so I'm going to say I'm because
I'm thinking I'm thinking to what the
way you're
describing what it means to be in the we
always write in the presence like a
language you always in the Reb's
presence and for me I mean I I I wish I
mean I I saw the
etc but I I wish that I can
have that feeling and I obviously like
writes
that if you have to listen to those that
talk about it and you can have some type
of feeling and I've experienced that
also but you're saying something deeper
I think that in order to bring in order
to
the it's going to be in such a mat of
now like you're saying over I mean the
the famous line the says the famous line
the
said that this this could
that everyone thought
after it's over. Well, what's going to
be and it's the true opposite that Dava
I still remember the interview that that
Pak had on
CNN right was right before Danos few and
and the interviewer was also a Jew I
forgot his name a famous
Ted Ted Kappell Ted Cap that's why it
was night line Ted Kapp night and Ted CP
is asking Potak what's unique about the
Reb and Kim Pak says
It's impossible to explain it. You have
to you only if you saw it, you
understand it. And then he said, I'll
just give you a little example. I was
afraid to be alone with him in the same
room because I'm afraid I'll I'll not be
any more objective. He didn't want to
go. Yeah. And when you see the video
from you, see how when the Reb speaks
about him, how he takes his
eyesb tells me as he use his influence
of writing for and he had like a so he's
like stroking his
beard and and the reason for bringing
him before that I feel before that when
he came to the first time and the Reb
said and he says to the Reb, I learned
in he's like he's like he felt the need
to tell the Reb I learned Nisha he was a
reformed rabbi but he tells rabbi lisha
you could see that he was miser there in
such an amazing way in the present that
later by the second time he came to the
bank and he didn't want to come over to
say and to he was afraid to go because
he'll lose his objectivity he he felt
the and he tells that
couple he says that if you didn't see it
you don't I can't explain it but I could
tell you I was afraid to be with him in
the same room that I would not be
objective anymore that he felt that the
of the and he was a yeshiva kid. So why
you mentioning this that what to what
extent the rebay is to what extent that
even a reformed Jew and a writer
reformed rabbi who wrote books and
everything he when he was in the Reb's
presence he he felt that so what do you
say what are you saying after it mean it
means to say that that the true could
not be fulfilled when were there because
it was such a that affected everyone so
when you went to you went because the
Reb wanted you to go, not because you
really understood what it is it's all
about. But the Reb was saying that the
ultimate of must be that we should want
to do it that we should choose that the
Reb wanted to see a generation of who
choose the Reb who choose who choose the
the who choose the and I think I think
you see it it's still happening now
happened right but I'm saying just right
now passed away just just now saying you
see people there's like a certain I told
a few people that I was speaking to that
there's certain like changing of the
guard ever saw the changing of the guard
in the the palace in can I see it in
England I saw it in Canada they come in
the old the old the old old group leaves
and the new group is there right away
so us me and you and everyone else it's
not there's a heftick It's a direct ham.
It's different
people and it's dka the right and
no but the reason not here that the reb
is here now stronger than before even
though that we don't see the reb's
presence. So that's that's I was going
to ask you because at the end of the day
you can say okay
fine it's deeper it's right the says but
but but but you see but because because
you know then the whole mo 90% 80% of
was hanging on to this and now you could
go there you could go there you could be
here you could you could be in it you
cannot be in it so it's a so so it from
one hand it seems seems harder. It seems
harder, but in truth it's much more
easier than even was before.
Right? That's in truth. Because because
we
see that it's like whenever the takes
one thing away, he gives another thing.
Whenever the Reb takes one thing away,
he gives something else. Like we see it
about blind people that they have a very
special in in in hearing things and
smelling things.
Because we don't see the Reb physically,
the pearl mamesh, the Reb's presence is
much more big in us in a way that if we
only choose to do the right thing. You
get such such and such push from the Reb
that you never saw before.
Gims. So for example, I always give the
example about my daughter wearing
mushikas to to Zambia.
that that typical when they come to a
place it takes them a 10 years 20 years
to have a building she came to Zambia
she already had a balabos waiting for
her giving her a house and want to give
her a whole
campus those things didn't happen 50
years ago didn't happen 30 years ago
such a thing such things didn't happen
the same thing happened now in Fairbanks
where went to Fairbanks that Abalabos
bought him a building before he even set
foot in Fairbanks Those things didn't
happen times. And there's also there's
also another of the relationship of
relationship that today if you're
plugged in and if you and if you have
the slave and care about it and
you're you probably know and understand
the more than people did that were
standing by because because the mount
that you read the mount that you watched
and the mount that
saying pe people tell me when they read
the let's say the I heard from an older
probably your age. He told me I read the
what I like about it is because I I read
things that I stood by the I was at and
I didn't realize that I that that it
happened and I read it. So I'm learn I'm
learn I'm learning what happened when I
what I s I'm learning over what about
what I saw. So it's a it's a
I mean obviously obviously it's a
obviously that uh it's a it's a very
very
uh there there's no there's no need to
say that how broken we are that we don't
have the reba here with us that's the
obvious obviously that we are very
broken obviously that we are very uh
missing the reb without the
reb does not need to say that. But the
Reb is being the
Reb at the end of the day. He makes the
decisions. He is the Reb. He makes the
decisions what's going to be and how
it's going to be. And he made that
decision. So we need to accept that
decision and and and see that if the Reb
made a decision, it must be that that's
for the good of the generation and for
the good of the entire Jewish world and
for the good of the future Mashiach.
That's
thee. That's the Rebson. That's the Reb.
If the Reb says that the is going to
be says like maybe seven or eight times
and repeats it that he gives away
the for that.
So if the Reb says that that's what the
Melik needs to do to to win the war of
being Mashiach, everyone has to everyone
understands that to bring Mashiach means
that the entire universe will change.
The entire world will change. This is
not a simple thing being
Mashiach. So so if we we don't and we
don't know anything about Mashiach.
Well, what do we know? We are simple
people. Flesh can mention what do we
know about
Mashiach? And and when the Rebi is
telling us this is the day being
bringing Mashia. So the 3,000 years from
Martin from three 3,300 years the entire
Jewish world is waiting for Mashiach and
this is our generation. It's our Reb and
we are the people who
are charged with that mission to bring
Mashiach. I mean this is like crazy
stuff. This is not a simple thing. We
are we are talking about world the
greatest world event ever.
So, so obviously that that that things
unusual are happening. So this the fact
that there was a gimmos and the fact
that that that the rebi and there was no
as the rebba said in New York times to
to to Israel shanker in in tough shaman
based in 197 1972 shashim he asked the
rebba what's going to be the future he
said to the reb you and everyone could
look it up in the york times it's online
he said to the rebel you and the and the
reb have children who is going to be the
eighth reb and the reb gives four
answers the rebre says firstb starts I
have I have plans to live many more
years. Then the Reb says that um we
should leave the war is for Mashiach and
we and the word we should leave for
Mashiach.
And then the Reb says he continues and
he says that um that um that that
that why and why why should we push him
off for why should we push him off
Mashiach for tomorrow? He could come
today. And then the Reb says there is a
great deal of work to be done more than
120 years of one
person. And we are now right after the
120 years of the Reb. We're 123 and we
see what happened in the last 30 years.
You see the Reb said there is a great
deal to work of work. The Reb saw this
old plan. The Reb needed to have a in
every city in every pumam and it's
finally being fulfilled. The Reb said
the Reb said is
not it's not a
party said right it's going to be
for and finally we see
that finally we see that starting to now
we see that everybody I mean we had a
reformed rabbi my
son-in-law tells me a few years ago he
went to a funeral the reform had here
and he led the funeral from a print out
of kabad.org
I mean this is like we are reaching just
two three years ago I was doing the
corona I think for three four years ago
an aravim kipper the night the the the
day of yum kipper the night the day
before kitoim kipper there was in the
reformed temple here in ankash on the on
the Facebook there was a picture of the
reb with a quote from the reb
I mean from the reformed temple a
picture of the reb and z and z the
temple put it up I mean this is like
things that you couldn't even imagine
three years ago. If someone if someone
would tell me three years ago that the
reformed temple in Anchorage would have
a quote with a picture of the Reb
Facebook Arabium Kipper the day when
they all come to when the biggest day in
the temple when everyone comes to Kidra
they should have a quote from the Reb
with a picture of the Reb I would tell
you to you're crazy you're out of your
mind it will never happen.
So what what what do you
say first of all anyone that's listening
to our conversation and there's a ber I
think it's very clear like the says that
is to
be to be part of the mission and
go what do you say to many many people
that were not yet to to be like we said
before official how are they part of the
mission
of bringing if you're not a like if you
are you mean
I mean it's I was I was I was mocked
that anyone that's listening to this
obviously understands that the MS
had isn't and if they're or a unmarried
girl the it's time to make to do it for
the future but if you're not the answer
is very simple the Reb created for that
the Reb created tanken for that. The Reb
created the entire the the the by the
Reb there was never such a concept that
if you're not a you are you are off you
could do whatever you want. You you you
are out of you you're not part of the
mission. I mean it's like when when I
grew up in in in Benbagen as a as a
little kid right in the
laments every every purim every Kaneka
they were going a bus from Anash from
Arshul would go travel to the to to the
to to the Maknot Sabah to the to the
basis of the of the army of the of the
military to bring to read the migill to
to the soldiers to bring to bring to
bring um purim pim to migilland Kanek
light candles and every Yam I remember
as a little kid the Roshiva of Kabad he
was ashiva he lived in he would go with
my father with two other we would go to
the to the biggest hospital in Israel
tame which is right near right near Ben
we would travel there with his car was
the driver and we all slept thousands of
matzas in bags all made in bags already
and we go from room to room and give out
matz to every patient. I mean what does
that mean? There is there is so much
work to be
done could only reach to a few hundred
people. That's it. How
much leave in Kites? Let's take an
example. There are how many we have in
Manhattan? Let's say 10. Let's say 10.
There are three million Jews in
Manhattan. Two million Jews in
Manhattan. Is it possible for for the 10
kabad to reach even 30% of those Jews?
It's impossible. We for that we have our
old K heights. Every Jew in Kits is is
the meuy is mobilized to work to the
Reb's work. It comes Friday, you have to
go m and if you're about boss, you don't
have to go in Somalia Friday. M every
day you go to work, you go a half an
hour earlier or you or you go doing
lunchtime and you go all the office
around you and you put on film with and
and you and and you become the of those
in in at your work everywhere you take
them to the you take you invite them to
your house for Shabas. What does that
mean? There is so much work to be done.
It's it's it's the old concept if if I'm
not a I cannot do the Reb's work. It's
crazy. You fly to Israel, you go on the
plane, you put on film with Eden, you
tell Eden to go to the there is so much
work to be done. When I was when I was
in Gman in Kan Heights before I before I
went to I wrote the book about the
rebes. Yeah. Can you talk about that?
Why did you write? Sure. Sure. I'm
coming there. So, so I used to have a
class of of of a group of Israelis who
would come to my home and we'd have a
class once a week or I'd go to their
homes and then then I took them to the
Reb to Dallas and and you were killing
them. I it was it was right after before
I went and and I and I and I I gave Shim
I took them to the Reb. Two of them had
children because of that. Now they're
big supporters of Kabalas is their
cities where they are.
um shinon was a parade. I took them I I
passed by the Reb because I wanted to
see the Reb and uh and uh even though
even though I was not part of the groups
and I was the last group and I asked
Sherbam, can I go? He said go. So I
started to go with them and and and Yank
is asking on the microphone who is this
group and I felt bad because I didn't
tell the I I didn't get official
permission. So let me but I want my my
Eden to see the Reb. And we banned by
and I told him all to look to the Reb.
And you saw the lately what Mashin said
about the parade. You saw that
announcement he
made from the youths made announcement
that every bakar has to help with the
parade. And he said and every said what
is a parade? What is the purpose of the
parade? That all the Jewish children in
the yoke should have opportunity to see
the reb. It
says so he said
when the
seadic sees that the near poa that he he
heals the the wound that that's the
mission of what is the parade that a
little kid was not religious should s
should see a reb and that will stay with
him for the rest of his life. I was
walking home. I went to Sham Zaka here
in Stamford. And I was walking home with
the uncle, not the not the uncle of the
uncle of the whatever the baby, the the
uncle of the
father. We live near each other. So I
was walking home with him talking about
the I was about pray in the 60s. Yeah. I
saw the Yeah. It's it's not he's not the
first person I met like that. I'll tell
you in a minute a story about a gid that
told me but he saw the reb. I'll tell
him a minute. Go, go ahead. No, no, I
finished. Okay. So, because you asked me
about so we'll talk about Oh, yeah. I
want I want to know. So, you made you
write you write a book about the first
year of became lean and the whole story
which is a
accomplishment. Tasha working. Yeah. Why
do you decided to work on this book?
Like how where does that come from? So
the real story is that when I was a
little kid, I read the old
sephatildas and I was really uh I knew
the old sephatildas and um and the
sephratildas starts the alterb goes all
the goes till the
fikb and then the what is the last
chapter
the and the what was the chapter by the
it's actually a letter that wrote from
America to Israel this B's name was
Dubinski Dinski's son. He model Dinsky.
He wrote the letter. So,
so took that letter. Can I show it? And
he printed it. And when I read the
letter, it's I saw it's missing a lot of
important pieces. It just it's doesn't
sound right.
So, for it doesn't sound that there's
enough information on what really
happened there. You're saying just
reading the letter as being a writer I
felt that a lot of holes there's a lot
of holes in that letter meaning that I
don't you don't see um the reb's
presence in the letter in the in the
funeral in the the whole in there so I
knew that something is missing him I
mean he wrote just his personal
perspective what he felt needed to write
to his father he didn't think about
anyway So later on when I worked on a
skesish if you if you know that I I me
and Gian as
bim this was one of one of my
projects that as a ban70 that we we were
looking for the rebas and we couldn't
find in 770 you couldn't find the
rebikas and finally when there wasn't in
the library sitting there I saw there is
only only it was like 20 or something
books of all the from the reb from
the were coming out but no one bothered
to compile them at the proper no no no
no theas from from the mems they came
out organized but the from the previous
years they were missing because there
was no real organization like it was in
the mess so would write or they didn't
write there was a sometimes they wrote
and some were means that nobody really
made they come back in the in and the
laments until something like that there
was no real good anas. So a lot of the
anas were like just parties. So there
was not published to everyone. So only
30 bim had it and it was in the reb's
library and and that's it. So nobody if
like me wanted to read. So there was
only the 21 23 volumes and that's it.
And every every of the books miss was
missing like 10 for was missing 24 was
missing from this year from that year
from that year. So we wanted for
ourselves to collect we thought just for
me for ourselves to make for a few bim
so we could be bought a cup machine and
and we asked Ra Krinsk's
son the in
um you know Ley Krinsky asked him if he
if his father give us permission if if
father could permission to have a room
in 770 he gave us a room in 788 and we
started to copy the and then we started
to research and we saw oh my god there
is so much So we didn't realize anyway
it took us a few years to do it and we
made 50 volumes out of from the 23 we we
researched we found all the we took we
had we have 50 bim work for us one b was
typing rabbi bul was working for us
typing the rabbit secret from tape and
then and then and then printing them and
then binding them whole story and we we
we had to go to an init we promised an
we make we'll make a set if they give
$1,000 for us we will give him a set and
and like Mos Rabbi Schaefer was one of
the first people that I went to and he
agreed and um he gave us $1,000 and then
we would ra gave us more than $1,000 for
the for the project and we didn't
believe we young young kid we had no
idea how long it will take it took us
anyway so so when I did the skesh when I
worked on
tiny someone told me that Rabbi Alleg is
a human so I went to him and that
started my relationship with with with
Alleg and and with the human of and I
took some that he wrote that were not in
the skes and I put them in as an into
the but because of that I I started to
read the and I started and I realized
there is such a rich uh information what
was going on in so the idea already
started from then from that we have to
make a book about it but I never really
took it seriously but then finally in
after my wedding I decided I'll do this
as a project because I and I actually I
actually I I put some pieces of toy in
the in some of my chur that I made for
in the years
of and I also I also did I printed in
magazine some of the beautiful stories
from translated
from so I got kind of involved in So you
doing this time yourself the the book?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course to kahas
what you want to do. No, no, no, no. I I
I I started to work on the book and then
I went to Rabi Kinsky and I spoke to him
about this said I knew it's a very
sensitive issue because I can't promise
anything. You made the book if the book
is ready we'll give it to the Reban then
we'll see. But he he he couldn't promise
me first I went to the other people in
Kos they all sent me to Kinsky. Then I
went to Kinsky Kinsky I can't promise
and the book is ready if you want if
you're willing to do it. So I raised
money for the book and I Yeah, I was
going to say no one paid you to do this.
No, of course not. I raised money to to
to make the book and uh and uh but but I
felt there is a need for it and uh then
you you know the whole story how I took
also Rab Zakovski to in New Jersey to
help me. He was a young ba then I needed
help with collecting items and so on.
But the old book I wrote myself and I
was sitting on every word uh Shivaim as
we say uh to make sure because I know
it's a very sensitive issue. So every
word was because you felt you saying you
felt that that the story should be told
but doesn't mean that it doesn't mean
that we have to publish
things that are not
right things were not and and and it
turned out to be that uh when I made the
book after the book was published a lot
of people told me why didn't you come to
me to interview me but the truth is when
I tried they didn't want to so a lot of
people they they you know they didn't
want to be interviewed and I I took most
of the things that I took was not from
interviews. I mean Zamuray gave me an
interview. What was interesting with
Rabi Gurari when he gave me the
interview he said to me I will tell you
why am I even talking to you and he said
that once he
remembers the Reb told him
that there has to be a that you have to
make a safer about this
time told him that and he totally was
not understanding it totally didn't I
didn't understand what did I mean who
should make us safer, why to make us
safer and it was forgotten and when I
came to him he said to me it came back
to him had you to I didn't I I had no
idea not like I that that's what they
called so so you know I I had no idea so
that's why he said that's why I'm
talking to you he told me a lot of
things that I couldn't even put in the
book very special things but he was uh
but but he gave me a lot of information
and then David Rasin gave me a little
bit information and Raiki gave me a
little information but it's ma it's
mainly from the letters from and from
yeah mainly it's from letters and from
yeah mainly from the letters and also um
raiki gave me information but for the
churas he already passed away m but for
the churas he gave me information and
some of the chur I I reused them for
later for the book and then also um tal
who passed away lately um his mother his
mother uh um had that recording from
label when she was a youngster
infra and label gave the whole history
of tiny when he was still young it was
either was in the lament I think the
laments and uh and uh it was very very
interesting was like a whole two hours
two and a half hours so I took it down I
wrote it as if it's an interview but it
was really recording from him and so and
a and a few things that he said there a
few special things came out
later documents that actually supported
that. But the Reb himself wrote and u
anyway so later in the last the last 30
years huge material came out new
material that I did not see but all the
material that I that came out is only
supporting the the line that I took in
my book the way I did it. What's the
line? That that
um that right from the beginning,
literally from the first few weeks, the
entire majority of Anash around the
world was already glued to the
So that is the truth. We don't need to
get into the whole thing, but basically
everyone knows that that there
was so I think historians that or
whatever people that tried to they want
to say it wasn't so simple. there was
this camp and there was that camp and I
mean I read the book obviously and I
also by a lot of people myself I mean
that's a there was no
movement the only movement a real move
maybe there was a but the only movement
that existed probably from day one you
say a few weeks I'll say from day one is
that it's
for sure from day one for two example
that one example I wrote in my book but
the one example May Ali just told little
a very interesting example um you know
by the by the city there is a custom
that at the at the funeral after the
funeral they make an announcement who is
a newbad was not a custom well usually
it took a year or more but but the
concept always
says the second
right right so
is the
yardb's book that
is so the same thing happened by the
rebel a few examples I have in the book
and a few examples I heard later one
example that is for example that
um that told me that that shabas by day
the Phil passed away in the morning
shabas morning two hours later the
rashad was holding the Reb's hand and
walking with the Reb crying and saying
to the Reb, "What's going to be? What's
going to be? What's going to be?" And
the Reb calmed him down and they were
going back and forth in the hallway in
the Philic's house and the Reb down.
Everything going to be okay. Everything
going to pay will continue. And and uh
another story that happened uh that's in
the book also that uh there was a woman
from Manash who had who was supposed to
have a supposed to have party he became
a party
and he didn't know what to do what
should he do the just passed away so he
went to 770 and he saw he was the
authority he went to said what to do
said to him go to the go to the So right
from the
beginning the Reb made the decisions and
the the most interesting story that
happened by the by the came out. So one
is in the book that they took the fabba
down the Reb said loud that we're making
atai we make a condition that we are
putting you here only in that if we will
go to Israel that we will take you with
us.
That's one thing that he saw that the
rebel led everything and the second
thing that Malik told the story lately
that I never knew before that um there
is a custom that you put the sand of in
the casket and in the grave and so they
wanted to put the sand the Reb said that
the fic reb does not need Israel
send someone of the family started
screaming no bishu bishu was And the
rebbit said if my husband said we don't
need so I'm with my husband and why the
Reb and they didn't put the Reb led the
right from the first
second and why they didn't put why the
Reb didn't want to put because the Reb
says the
famous theb
explains what's the difference between
oil what's the mile of going to the oil
theb says that there soil because there
was the there so the is not there there
is the is there but it's not the essence
of is there but it's not big there and
what where the where the was the mush
that parable then you there is a wall a
big wall and falls down so the stone on
top of the wall falls the lowest so in
soul is there's no gill falls the
farthest falls the farthest so therefore
the inner to soul there's
because so that's the place where the is
so therefore the the does not need the
offer he doesn't need the send from
Israel but that's where the go is but is
not
where so that he doesn't need the sent
but you could see that that the reb led
from the first second that his nas the
reb was the ni and his decisions were
made. There was absolute and and and not
only that especially within days I mean
like Dubov that's in the book Abed Dubov
is the one Dubov from from Manchester
he's the one who asked the Reb the the
day after the stalkers or the day of
theas he asked the rebba to take over
the nas and the reb to him what do you
think the said his name is a reb and
then a week when he went back to England
and he went to's house and he together
he had a meeting with And he sent a
telegram to the reb wrote
back the
rebro I'm sure that you heard what I
told Dubov and he was here about
this. So so but anyway information that
came out you could see clearly that my
line was true. I think it's connected to
what you said before where you were
describing what it meant to
be. So after
your all the people there saw this right
away. So it's not it's not it's not a
shila. They actually they actually saw
it
before maybe I told you many years ago
um Rabbi Norman Lamb the president
university came to visit us in Alaska.
Came for a tour here. He came with his
wife and his sister and I took them uh
on a drive to a mountain here a special
place. It's called a special place here
in Alaska. And there on the way back
then we went back from the m down to the
mountain and there was a we had like a
smoke. The car was smoking so we had to
stop the car to
has a smoking car. Wait to wait to wait.
Even though it was actually a a very
nice good win, a big van. Stop it today.
Your car doesn't smoke. Wouldn't do
that. Yeah. Anyway, so we stopped the
car and and the two ladies were singing
with Meni with my song Meni from
Masilla. Um they were sitting with him
and telling him stories and I hear how
and I was talking to him of a lamb and I
hear as the the ladies are telling men
that um they remember they used to be
young girls in in Kan Heights in the
1940s and they remember when the Reb
came to America and they remember the
rebs of Kingston. So the two ladies, she
and her sister, two ladies, they tell my
son and how everybody came out of the
houses to look on him. He looked like a
prince.
They they just they they said the beauty
of the Reb, but it's not that. It's
exactly what the Rebana writes in how in
our memory the Rebana writes that that
the Reb was a little kid, everybody was
joined to look at him because there was
that shine that came from him that it
was inhuman. It was uh was beyond
humanity. It was a spiritual shine that
came that it caught everyone's eye. It's
like when saw the saw the the the
burning bush and but it says turned to
see what is it because he saw something
a snare. He saw something which is not
natural. He saw
non-natural scene. That was the Reb.
When you saw the Reb, you saw something
which is not normal. It's not human.
This is not a normal thing. And I still
remember how I saw the Reb Yam
Kipper by Ma the first time when I was a
little kid and I still remember Reb
sitting down and taking off his hat and
and and sitting down and then I became a
tail. I became a tan and I and I
remember like now I remember seeing the
Reb's feet and something I never you saw
it's not human. He saw something not
normal here. And I remember I I I barely
ded at him. I was holding the mer and
looking at the Reb. I couldn't take my
eyes off the Reb. And I remember when
the Reb jumped on the chair for for the
Reb was when Reb was 74 years old and
the Reb jumped on his chair and turned
around. I would not be able to do it
today. I mean it's like unbelievable. I
I remember I was like, "Oh my god, I
couldn't believe it." The jumped up on
his chair and turned around and started
jumping and he jumped and it's a soft
chair and he jumped on it and he was
making that. It's like you have to
understand it's like it's not you saw
you saw I was a little kid. That's like
like wow this is not this is not you you
you felt it in your bones this is a lus
you felt that this is I always just tell
my balabatim that anybody who saw the
rebba had no doubt that there's a
because you saw you saw that there is a
god in the world you know people who
didn't see the maybe could have doubts
but people who saw the rebba have no
doubts you know that there is a in the
world because you saw a phenomena which
is beyond on human nature. You saw this
is this is you saw this is this is the
this is this is the chain
of this
is you see the balm you push you saw you
saw the balm in our own time I remember
something about the long
forens I used to stand some years I had
my place on on the top of the of the
benches so I was very high was like the
same height of the reb but Because I was
there I was sitting I was your place was
directly across directly across the
river. Yeah. So I remember some of the
when it was long forensans it was like
getting close to the end of the fbrangan
and I was already tired and you know
you're listening for like five six hours
you you would listen to every word to
catch every word understand every word
and and sometimes I took like a second
to breathe and I and I look just on the
scene and I still remember that scene
you see the red sitting because when I
when I listen for I close my eyes to
understand but I took a second just to
watch it and I still remember that
scene. You didn't look at
the spoke. I I looked at but a lot of
times I would close my eyes to
understand and I was I was into what the
Reb is saying but sometimes I took the
moment just to watch the scene and this
was a scene like you felt you literally
felt the light on the on on the Reb on
the Rebel like there was and it says in
the Gmorrah that there was
a you felt it. It's not you you saw
something unusual. It's like that scene
of the Reb sitting there and bringing
it's like it's out of this world. So of
course of course it's a the fact that we
don't have it is a is a huge crime
against humanity. That's a huge crime
against the Jewish people. There's no
question about that. It's it's it's it's
the I mean to me
is of course it's a it's a crime. It's a
mdash. There's no question about
that.
It's there's no question about it.
But if the Reb decide to do it, if the
decided to do it, there must be a
reason. There must be a mission. And
there must be a mission. And that
mission must be fulfilled. And we are in
that mission and the Reb is with us. The
Reb is like making sure that we will
fulfill this mission and nobody is is
out of this mission. Everyone must be
part of it. And we will the Reb is going
to is and we see clearly we see if it's
about Israeli politics, if it's
about if it's about theim all over the
world, the way theim today are accepted.
It's just you can't compare the way we
are accepted today in in in Alaska in
comparison like the person who built the
the the kabalas in in in Fairbankings.
He's the person who built a reformed
temple a few years ago there 30 years
ago. The same person who built the
reformed temple. He's the one who built
the kabalas. It's like things like that
you couldn't even make them up. 30 years
ago they will never happen. The person
who built the temple build the kabalas.
You're crazy. You can't even imagine
that. But this is happening today like
there is there's a revolution in the
world and the and the shas that the of
the have today with the entire
leadership of the of the world
leadership with presidents and kings all
over the world the personal connection
that we have is is beyond words. I mean
it's not only about Israel we talk about
the United States everywhere. Look what
Ra just had the prayer in Bashan and the
president was telling he was the first
one to get the prayer. I mean things
like that happen today that never we
couldn't even imagine. Look how in in
now what they have now every year
100,000 Jews are coming to to
tokism. Things are the people are coming
to the oil. I mean I had here last
summer I had a group of ladies from from
from five towns and one of them is a
daughter of a very very famous Jewish
activist. I don't want to say the name
like one of the top top Jewish activists
in America. And she tells me that she
she and her friends they go every m
Shabas to the oil and not only that she
says to me sometimes I have a friend who
what's up so everyone I'm going to the
oil anybody wants to join we jump into
the car and we go I mean it's like I
wouldn't believe it woman I mean I
wouldn't I would never dream this is
could happen over over here I don't have
to ask people they ask me let's go
it's just like unbelievable it's like
you can't even imagine who would thought
gimmos that this will the way it will
look like today. Nobody dreamed that
this will be. Yeah. But it it shows you
that and so so obviously I mean there's
no question about it that that what we
saw of course it's it's it's a it's a
it's a crime. It's it's I mean when I
look at my grandchildren and as they go
to the oil I mean my heart is breaking.
It's I mean I mean I see bim who don't
do not have the opportunity to assemble
by the for bringing you know what it
means to be by the for bringing one for
bringing one for bringing not to not to
have that we had every shabas one for
bringing but but from the other hand I
seek I mean what you said before about
the people tell you about the I see it
myself when I listen out of the I was
there I see a whole new depth
that I never even understood was
standing there and I listened to the
first time. I see a whole new meaning. I
in in every fra I see I see how the Reb
is leading to a certain goal that I
never even saw. Then I looked I looked
at the ter question and answer I didn't
understand that there is a
whole even as much as I understood then
now it's like and I see it in all
different way. It's like a whole The Reb
has a
a mahalak that he's leading the whole
world. All of his talks and all of his
all leading to the same and in different
ways and is like ain't safe. is is
infinite in his if it's whatever burim
that he has on on if it's if it's on the
reb ain't saved there is and and all the
chewers are coming out with the letters
from the reb with the miners from the
reb it's endless it's a lifetime is not
enough to to to even to cover just to
read the reb's text not even to
understand not even in depth just to
read just to listen to you know Josh
Gordon they say that the kab by Gordon
that he listened to all the fabangas on
the down. I mean I listen to it's like
the there is nothing there is no biggest
pleasure in the world than to listen to
forever the the
the gishmak the strength the the the
amuna you get from death is like
unbelievable and it's it's such a that
the Reb gave us such a such a gift that
the Reb gave us and and the Reb actually
meant it was that that should be
recorded the Reb had a special. I I
remember not too not too long ago there
I saw the Reb said um the Reb wrote
about listening to the recording from
his foran. Yeah, there was an old plan
in that the Reb said to listen to the
also here in New York there was not
there was and the famous you know the
famous story that the Reb said by the
almost one of the last rallies you know
they should send the uh the video to
send the video to to Russia and the Reb
said but the sent to the children that
there are kids around the world who
cannot be here right but when you will
make with your hands and you'll see with
they'll see the Lev pictures and they'll
see the
they get pictures that they'll see the
picture and then they'll also have the
Reb set him to send it and there is also
the video from the from the whenever
comes into the Reb and it says to the
Reb that his business is in videos and
the Reb says have you seen the video
that we made and you saw the the Jews in
Russia were dancing together with
dancing around like so they see the Reb
was like saying to him we we know about
videos and we we in the business of
videos we we and because the Reb
emphasized The Reb put the kayak in the
video in the picture. I mean the Reb
himself wrote a famous settle about a
woman who had wrote to the Reb that she
has a the Reb looks at the Reb's
picture. Therefore he looks back on you
and that gives it the says that a
picture and told to carry a picture in
his pocket many to carry a
picture was telling people and
yeah so there is clearly that the
rebik this was very
very an uplifting conversation and
uh we already should become even bigger.
Amen. We should all be to fulfill the
and we should be to see the mash. I
think we missed one important point.
Yeah, we have one more minute. One
important point that we should talk
about it and that is the concept of what
is the for
Go ahead. Go ahead. I think it's very
very important for people to understand
that and that is that um I just want to
say one line and had a big in that line
and that
happened by the famous of Shabas after
Pes and the Reb asked to sing the of
the and the Reb asked the was in a
something unusual. The reb took a lot
out of it was in a huge
mir and the rebb said to the the gimmel
the third of the alterb to again and
again and again and it was such an
amazing that after the rebb stood to he
continued singing the ngan to himself it
was was unbelievable and then the rebba
said why is the ngan so important
because that is the
alterb and he was mamik
He was an a new soul. He was an atmos.
He was something a new from and he was m
to the das after him to the generations
after him. That this the alterb was
mamik. He brought to the world a new
gilly from to the generations after him.
And that's based on what the told that
several
times in the last years in America the
said he said to that that the alterb
came the first time to the mid the told
him that the told them that the will
come he should tell alterb that he is an
that he's a new soul and he has a
special mission to bring to special
mission for all the generations after
him until Mashia to bring
Mashiah. So what is a new soul? So
people thought that the soul never came
in a gilgal but that's not true. As the
Reb
says and also wrote it in
the in the Reb speaks
about that new soul means what is
talking but there it says that said and
the Reb said it many times by that said
that all the gimm that were
inhaz till Mosiah are all
from and Mashiach is just to say in two
words what does that mean that everyone
knows about the
esospherosphere of the what
is which
is means it's beyond above away from
everything and means it's being it's
being comes down to the to the world so
in kessa there is there is pleasure
pleasure is the highest level and there
is roson which is the will so so we have
we have intelligent and in order for us
to in order for us to do something we
want
to what do you want to learn you want to
learn something that you have a pleasure
to learn so what whatever you do in life
is because you have pleasure because you
have pleasure you want to do it and you
have when you want to do it you start
learning it and that's how it goes so
the sed goes there is there
is and then there is so the so there
said that all the in are all
from from
itself. So but when Mashiach will come
will be a Gatic and that is the Giles
because in itself
oft
so said there are two kinds of there is
which are from Mashiach then there is
which is from Msiah
that's so said to to the to tellb that
he is that he is from and therefore what
is saying that
that what is the reward
from fingers then we know that what is
what is because everything starts with
in order to have because everything
starts with so before you bring mashia
in the real world you bring the of
mashia the of mashia
And then that refineses the world to
have in the real world. So that
means so that the what I'm trying to
bring out is that the
entire the entire why is it so unique?
Why is so unique from all in the world?
Because from the alterb on and going
every because every is a malam of the
previousb and said the
said
about that is in me and the said about
himself. So all the rabbim are the same
from Mashiach and each has a different
sphere that he added to that and the Reb
which is which is the highest level and
the Reb's mission as is to bring
that to bring it in reality in so why do
you uh I'm saying why do you feel why do
you want to share this what's important
I'm sharing you because it's important
to understand what's the con what's the
what's the connection of Mashiach with
Kabad. What's the whole issue with the
Reb of Mashia? Why why is it so
important to the Mashiach and what's the
connection? Why the
Rebad? Because this is what
is what's unique. When you learn you'll
see things there that doesn't say
anywhere else
before
said JB Salvich said that the greatest
philosophy of all the philosophies
in that's what Rabbik said from all the
philosophers including Aristotle and
Kant and all of them. So that means that
the is a new thing a new that's says
will come to
be that is therefore it's so unique
therefore when you when you spread
the you refine the world you start with
and you bring the world to mashia
reality so therefore the for example the
alterb was the rebb's campaign to print
the in every city why the rebb gave a
gift the
Why he didn't give
a gay
himself gives a gift? What's the
gift
again? I have four.
Why? And what is in the Tanya? There is
the old blood from all the cities with
the Tanya. Why we have to if you want to
give a class in Tanya in Alaska, you
could take a tan from New York was
printable. We have to pick a tan in in
Alaska. But the idea the reb explained
that the idea is just like when there is
a from New York or Tanya from so
everyone knows that is a source of
that's a place where print from
vna was a city where you have a printed
so that means
vnad or New York became a source aan
where you print so the rebs every city
that the reb to bring a
lus the gashm that every city becomes
the source of tan is anchor as tan is
fab every city becomes a source of tan
that's bringing the down in the reality
of the world and that's the reb's
mission the so it's not like just
happened to be the spoke about mashiach
it's not just happened to be because
that is what the it's all the and and
also not only it happens to me it also
was it wasn't like I saw this lash and
that's like the reb's personal wish you
know it's like like gal No, no, it's not
the Reb's wish. This is what the entire
whatever the Reb's personal like you
know campaign or like yeah as if the Reb
was a and he wanted Mashiach. It's
very of
course but it's much more than that this
is what stands for to change the world
and bring in the world that is mashiach
is and the rebi his mission is to bring
it to reality so therefore what we are
after we are the dashi that brings
mashiach in reality therefore there was
a stalk because that's the final the
final makatish of us as as people who
can see the Reb that we see the Reb from
within us. That's what the whole idea
is. Not to see the Reb from the outside
of us, but see the Reb from within us to
find the Reb in us. So
that because we because we are because
we don't see the Reb, we are broken
about it. Therefore, we find the Reb.
And that's what Mashiah. It's
not the Mashiah the Reb is the Mashiach
betrayal because he is the he brings the
Mashia. So therefore it's so important
to remember that all those mashia and
especially from the last says that the
entire is to bring mashiach that's the
entire work of and all the and to teach
as I said before that when do you know
mashiach is coming when you reach the
and the lost Jews and this the far away
Jew the end of the world so everyone you
now it's coming somewhere people go
traveling you travel and you find a Jew
somewhere in a in a guest station and
you put fill with him that will bring
because this is the of the to find
the very very very good
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and that's it. Amen.
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