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Rabbi Binyamin Yuhanan Parenting Class 41 What is the goal of Parenting 2
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could not uh teach their children either
because they didn't possess the
knowledge or because they were just not
physically there. It could be that
father passed away
or was was uh killed in war. There were
many orphans at that time.
the rabbis um instituted that for those
that don't have parents who can teach
them, we will create a yeshiva. And they
created as a substitute, as a second
best, not the best, the second best, a
yeshiva for poor kids, for kids from
families that are not educated and and
and for kids who are orphans.
So the yeshiva is
um a substitute, an alternative, a
second best alternative to what it's
really supposed to be. As it says in in
Schma in in
um
and you should teach the Torah to your
children. It doesn't say you should
teach the Torah to your students, but
rather you should teach the Torah to
your children because the main teacher
in a child's life should be his father
and his mother.
That is the best.
This mistake is very widespread. Many
people think that the problem with the
school system is that it engages mainly
in theoretical academics rather than in
real life instruction and guidance.
It may be true, but that's not the main
reason. In reality, the real reason is
that the school system does not fill the
need because it cannot fill the need
to begin with. It was created as a
substitute when the real thing is not
available.
And um
unfortunately
even among um
best schools not every teacher is
on the same level. You might have nine
out of 10 teachers and rabbim the best
but you might have one that is not the
best and you're taking this risk.
Whereas if you take the main educational
responsibility in your hands, then you
can make sure that no matter what
happens outside of the home, the child
will still be strong. Even if
one year the teacher is not the best,
the rebi is not the best, the motor is
not the best, friends are not the best,
principal is not the best, it's not the
end of the world. The child will still
feel secure, will still have positive
influence from his home, which is the
main positive influence.
School is not the natural realm of real
life. Even if [snorts] the school system
would place its main focus on real life
lessons, it would still not suffice to
achieve our hinuk goals and get the
child to implement these lessons in his
day-to-day life. The following quote
shows how even very real life
instruction
directly addressing practical behavior
remains far removed from real life and
[snorts] it was not because the teaching
was not done right.
This was a case of a very capable
teacher who did a fine job teaching the
lesson and the girl involved was a
highly successful student [snorts]
who learned the lesson well in the
academic sense. But although the
educational process was the best it
could be, it did not connect with real
life. That is because the educational
structure is simply not a real life
setting and does not naturally connect
to real life. Again, it's only talking
about real life, but it's not living
real life.
On page 280, we quote a long um letter.
After teaching in high school for many
years, I retired and went into
counseling. One day a former student of
mine came for counseling. [snorts] This
woman had specifically looked me up
since we had had a wonderful
relationship. He had fond memory she had
find fond memories of my class and I
remembered her as an excellent student
and a very pleasant and easygoing
person. When we began discussing the
difficulties she was experiencing,
I had a strange feeling. The issue she
needed help with was was something I had
dedicated a lot of time to in class as a
teacher. I was even more confused when I
remembered that this very girl had
submitted an excellent project on the
subject.
She should have been thoroughly familiar
with the issue, but she spoke about it
as though she had never heard of the
concept and was encountering it now for
the very first time. This was so strange
that at first I thought that she was
kidding or trying to lead me on in some
way. But as the discussion continued, I
realized that she was expressing herself
innocently and sincerely.
Once I realized that, I decided to
completely disregard any premises from
the past and discussed the issue from
scratch. I introduced some basics,
explained some principles and suggested
some practical ideas. We concluded
setting up a schedule for further
sessions. Our sessions were very
successful
and after [clears throat] about 2 and
1/2 months, we felt that we could sum
things up and conclude. At our last
session, I prepared a surprise for her,
but she preempted me with a surprise of
her own. "I have a question for you,"
she said. "It's been bothering me since
we began. [snorts]
Why did you never teach this in school?
It's such a critical subject, and you
have so much to offer. Why did I have to
suffer with it in real life in order to
discover all of this?
Instead of answering, I pulled out my
own surprise, the project she had done
on this very subject. I handed it to her
and said, "And this is what I wanted to
ask you."
She looked through the papers, shaking
her head in confusion. Finally, she
looked up and said, "I don't know what
to say. This is shocking."
I didn't know what to say either. I was
also shocked. But I had learned
something important. The fundamental
rule that learning must be internalized
and put into practice is also a rule
that must be internalized and put into
practice.
This report illustrates that the
educational system by nature is
disconnected from real life.
Even when the subject is very relevant
and practical, most of the students will
not naturally translate it into real
life. Material that a student learns,
including guidance on how to live and
behave, remains in the realm of academic
knowledge.
It isn't much more than material that
has to be mastered and memorized
for exams.
The student summarizes lessons
about the importance of good character
traits
and the fact that Australia is a
continent in the same compartment in her
mind. It might have been well taught and
well understood but there is no
guarantee that it will be internalized
in the students personality and
integrated as a part of her natural
behavior. Now this reminds me of um
therapy that I do as well. Often um
patients come and after the therapy they
tell me rabbi this is uh very strange.
Everything you said I know already. How
come
I can't say this to myself? How come you
giving me advice that I know but until I
came to you I couldn't use this advice?
And the answer is because we learned all
the good things and it remained in our
mind
deep inside our subconscious mind. We
did not learn how to access it and we
did not learn how to
command our behavior using that
knowledge. Yes, I know the knowledge
because I needed it for passing the
class, for getting a good grade.
for sounding intelligent in class,
having a discussion
with my uh friends, impressing my future
spouse,
but it's not for
uh practical use.
Practical use, I'll just go out into the
world and I'll just figure it out.
It's only when we get into trouble and
we have a real life problem that we try
to figure it out and we can't because
our knowledge is disconnected with real
from reality.
This is not a new point at all.
Um,
as um,
Torah tells us in in Devarim,
Moshe said to the Jewish people, "Apply
your hearts to everything that I am
attesting
today."
Pay attention and apply your hearts to
whatever I'm teaching you today. It's
not enough just to
learn it and to read it. That is why so
many self-help books, so many um
articles
remain just text books. They remain as
text but not real life. You have to
apply your heart. You have to bring it
into your heart, into your personality.
And the shem is explains, "Do not
suffice with just knowing it. As Hashem
said to ye,
son of man, see with your eyes and hear
with your ears and apply to your heart
to everything that I am showing you, we
see that even after seeing and hearing,
if the person does not apply the lessons
to his heart, they are worthless." Also,
we say in the Torah,
you should know today and you shall
apply it to your heart
because just knowing is not enough.
Again and again, Torah and the prophets
are telling us after you learn, you have
to internalize it and you have to put it
into practice. You have to learn how to
take the knowledge
and use your mind
to command that knowledge into action.
We're on page 282. This source shows
that even an adult
who personally saw and heard the
instruction with the full intention of
fulfilling it must still in invest
efforts to internalize the lesson.
Isn't it obvious that much more effort
is required to cause an immature child
to internalize things which he did not
choose to learn but but which we make
him learn.
Even an adult who knows the value of
knowledge after learning the knowledge
it will not be used. And certainly
what can you expect from a child who
does not want to learn and you force him
to learn, you force him to memorize, but
he doesn't want it. Of course, he's
going to be he's going to keep the
knowledge as far as possible from his
heart cuz that's not what he is
interested in.
Of course,
the educational system, be it elementary
school, high school, and so on, can and
must contribute to the process of
helping the child internalize the things
he learns.
Of course, we want the yeshiva to
participate. We want the yeshiva to be
good. We want the teachers and the
rabbim to be good. But
our point is that putting too much
stress on the educational system can
sidetrack
our focus from the main goal of hinuk
practice in real life and even cause it
to become neglected or forgotten. The
above case illustrates the gap between
knowledge and internalization.
The student had learned the subject
well.
She had even conveyed it excellently in
her project. Yet when the material
became relevant to her life, she didn't
remember at all. Not even the fact that
she had ever learned it.
However, when she learned that very
subject in a practical con context, when
she herself faced the problem and tried
to resolve it and couldn't figure it
out, couldn't bring the knowledge down
and she turned for instruction. And when
she heard the instruction, she had a
practical application.
The knowledge had the desired effect.
The following quote shows the other side
of the coin, the effect of knowledge
that is learned through the concrete
experience of real life. This
description shows the impressive impact
of what was essentially a very
unsophisticated
educational process, but one that direct
directly shaped real life behavior. By
the way, I would say just say that
following a a rabbi or a teacher in real
life is more important than sitting in
class and learning the material.
H of course you need both. But someone
who just sat in class and learned and
got good grades
is not allowed to
uh teach. He's not allowed to rule
uh Jewish law matters
until he first practiced
apprentichip
next to the rabbi in real life. Yes, he
learned everything and he got all A's,
but until he sits next to the rabbi,
when the rabbi
is answering the questions that people
present to him using the knowledge that
that the was just taught,
the student cannot apply this knowledge
in his life. He must follow the rabbi
everywhere and observe his behavior
and only then he can um
be allowed to practice it in and and and
teach others. Uh so again we have a a
long note a long um quotation. Let's see
if we can finish it today. A lecturer
in a social works school held a
discussion about the religious community
in Israel. The discussion both in terms
of the lecturers's approach and the
students input took on the expected
negative and condescending tones. people
including New York State like
to put down
education in yeshiva
because that's a natural um human
response that I want to feel good about
myself and what I do and since I am
different and I went through different
school and I represent a different
school system I want to make sure that
all other school systems and all other
ways of life are not as good as mine
because I need to feel good about
myself. And then of course uh even if
the other system is better, I [snorts]
will not notice it because I will only
look for faults.
So one student found the nature of the
discussion highly offensive. He rose,
asked for the floor and said, "I grew up
in a traditional home with very
compromised
religious standards.
Traditional means they keep the the
customs, the cultural aspect of Judaism,
but they don't keep um Jewish law in all
their details. At home, we kept a
minimal level of kashut, but outside the
house, we ate whatever we wanted and
also basically did whatever we wanted.
For the most part, we had exactly the
same lifestyle as our secular neighbors.
But we never drove on Shabbat. When my
friends drove to the beach on Shabbat,
my father never allowed me to join them.
When I had asked why
they could and I couldn't, he would
answer matter of factly because they are
secular and we are traditional. He
didn't say that there was anything wrong
with the irreligious people who drive on
Shabbat. He just stated the reality. We
are people who don't drive on Shabbat.
Period. That's who we are for no reason.
[snorts] When I entered the army, I
excelled from day one. I aspired to a
military career and I gave it my all.
But when I was ordered for the first
time to drive unnecessarily on Shabbat,
I just couldn't do it. I wanted to. I
tried to will myself to do it, but I
just couldn't. I ended up refusing the
order. That put an end to my dream of a
military career.
Why couldn't I drive on Shabbat?
Contrary to what you'd like to believe,
my parents never threatened me with
horrific punishments of ginam of hell or
anything like that. They never
brainwashed me. In fact, they hardly
spoke about religion at all. The one
thing I knew was that I am a traditional
Jew and a traditional Jew doesn't drive
on Shabbat. Even at the time when I was
ordered to drive in the army, I wasn't
busy thinking that if I drove I would
conflict with my identity or some such
thing. On the contrary, my thoughts were
mainly focused on overcoming my
instinctive feelings and just driving.
[snorts] But I couldn't do it for me.
Driving on Shabbat conflicted with
reality. In reality, in my reality,
there was no such thing. It was plain
impossible. is the same as anyone of you
not being capable I hope of stabbing
someone even if he makes you mad enough
to explode. There are others who can do
it
and who do do it but that's because they
live in a different reality from yours.
In their reality it is possible. Picture
three people losing control. One bangs
his head against the wall while crying
hysterically. Another roars in ter in a
terrible rage and the third pulls out a
knife. The difference between them is
not how upset they are. All three lost
control.
Why do they react differently? It's
because of the different realities they
live in.
Let me tell you based on both my own
experience and my familiarity with the
religious community in Israel
that your perspective on the the
religious
um people
is very off. These people were not
brainwashed nor were they raised in an
atmosphere of fear and horrible threats.
These are people who live in a reality
where it is simply impossible to
transgress God's will. And [snorts] it
is similarly a very clear part of their
reality that God's will is expressed in
the Torah.
If a religious man sins, it is not
because they didn't manage to
brainwashed him
against the sin. [snorts] Usually, it is
not because of some pathological urge
either. is because somehow that
particular act has not yet become a part
of his reality as something that is
against God's will.
He may know it. He may have learned it,
but it still hasn't really connected
with his sense of reality.
That's the only true explanation. All of
your other explanations
are just your biases, prejudices, and
imaginations.
They have no connection to reality, not
to yours, and certainly not theirs.
And this is similar to a person who
reads
um papers, research papers about danger
of smoking.
um he knows the statistics of how many
people die from um drug overdoses and he
still chooses to smoke and he still
chooses to use recreational drugs. Why?
And that's because
it did not yet become reality for him.
It did not yet hit him.
He may know it. He may have learned it.
But it still hasn't really become part
of his reality. This is the key
sentence. It captures the point that a
person's behavior is not determined by
his knowledge or academic achievement.
It is determined only by the extent to
which his knowledge, his hashkafa, his
outlook on life and his amuna, his
belief in God have connected to his real
life to the tangible reality with which
he lives each day. This therefore is the
goal of our educational process. Not
only to provide information but
primarily to lead the child to
internalize this knowledge and integrate
it into his reality. So much so that we
should not even be worried for our
children. What are they going to do?
We should be confident that when we send
our children to the world, to the
street, to friends, we should be
confident. I'm sure my child will do
everything correctly.
Our goal is not the child's mind, but
the child's personality, his inner
world, his his experience of life, his
desires, and his aspirations.
The understanding that hinuk is about
internalization was discussed earlier in
the book. The two discussions are about
the same principle but they are not the
same. Above we discussed the need to get
the child to internalize the things we
make him do meaning the control which
must then be followed within with
education. Our subject here though
similar is about getting the child to
internalize the things that we teach
him. Not the control but internalizing
the education.
And we'll read the last paragraph. A
full rounded system includes three
elements.
Number one, getting the child to do the
right thing that we call control.
Number two, getting the child to know
the right thing. That's the first step
of education,
giving the instruction, giving him the
knowledge. And number three,
getting the child to want
the right thing.
after he was forced to do it and then
taught how to do it. Now he
wants to do it himself independently.
We begin the process through two of the
three. We can make the child know by
teaching and explaining and we can make
the child do through control.
But the goal of either of these
processes,
getting the child to do and getting the
child to know is really the next step
that both processes share. Getting the
child to want the right thing.
This is the
description of what education is, what
parenting is. We want to raise a child
that wants to do the right thing. And
Bazat Hashem, that's what we are going
to discuss for the remainder of this
book. Uh thank you for joining us. Have
a great night and Shabbat shalom.