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Okay, without any other introductions,
please help me welcome our next [music]
speaker, Dr. Mark Wenberg.
[applause]
All right. Um,
>> ready?
>> No,
you're on.
>> Didn't [snorts] make a difference, did
it? Uh, how many people here know the
story of Honyagio?
>> Honyi Hamagio. Just raise your hand if
you know the story. All right. A lot of
people don't know the story. So honaki
was a sage who lived at the time bay
sheni toward the end of bayasheni and
there was a drought and [music] it was a
very bad drought and we lived by the
rain in Israel. Um, so Hony Mag goes
outside and he puts a circle
hon. He makes a circle around himself.
[music] He draws a chalk around himself
and he says, "Hashem, I'm not leaving
this circle until it rains."
Nothing happens. Says a louder, "Hashem,
I'm not leaving the circle till it
rains." It starts to rain a little bit.
No, not that kind of rain. A real rain
pours.
Um,
Rabbi Shiman Chhatak said to his wife,
"You know, I could stand outside, put a
circle around myself and cry all day
long when rain had to drop." His wife
said, "Does that mean Konamago is bigger
than you?" Said, "No, it's [music] just
different. It's like I'm an adviser to
the king. He has a he has this board of
adviserss, you know, his part his his
cabinet, and they decide what to do, and
I say this, and someone says something
else, whatever." Um, and while this is
going on, the king's seven-year-old,
5-year-old son climbs on his lap and
says, "Aba, give me a chocolate." Now,
that's honest.
I'm one of the advisers of the king. He
may or may not listen to me. Point is,
that's one way of looking at this. But
there's a much deeper way of looking at
it. It doesn't mean he was being
childish. It means he was immediate. So,
we have to to understand that we have to
go to his grandson. his grandson um was
um Aban Hilkia. Uh so this is a very
remarkable family. The Hon the Hamagio
family honag family very remarkable.
[music] His grandson the sages sent his
um three people to his grandson because
there was another there was another u
drought and so we need you to pray for
his grand his grandfather passed away.
We need you to pray for rain. Um so they
would they [music]
he wasn't clear he didn't he didn't
address to them quickly the go there in
Tanis 23 goes into the gimmel goes into
this whole thing it's very interesting
he he did certain things that were
strange and he w it doesn't matter but
the point is finally goes into his house
goes to his wife he says let's go up on
the roof so she go they go on the roof
he his wife goes in one corner he goes
in the other corner and they pray for
rain and it rains and and the the sages
who came to recruit him noticed that it
rained on his wife's corner [music] much
earlier than it rained on his corner. So
he asked him why is that? He said
something very interesting. Um and he
said that I
give her the money. I bring the money
into the system. That's my job. I set up
the structure. [music] But she's the one
who sees the poor people. She hears
their stories. She knows what's going on
with them. She's at the front door. I I
just fund the operation. She's a
hands-on direct connection to the
operation. Hashem listens to that.
That's the immediacy. That's why Hony
that she wasn't. By the way, we think
that Abhukia [music] was a son of a
daughter of Honyagago. This is
Abhilukia's wife. This is not a
descendant, direct descendant. This is
through marriage. But the but the
concept was transmitted [music] that
it's a direct connection.
So the before should we talk about this
in connection something very very
important which is where did this all
come from [music] and Rifka Yutsuk and
Rifka are praying for a child they don't
have a child yet um and the puss says
[music]
the says that um
is an old word for prayer
and prayed to Hashemishto
Oh,
what does that mean? Luna, it means
[music] in in in Hebrew means like
opposite, but not really opposite like
in in in in um a good English word for
it um in juxiposition with they they
they they relate to each other [music]
but they're separate. They're separate.
He's in one corner just like Abahilkia
one corner of the roof, the other corner
of the roof over here by Yetska. He is
in one corner of the room, she's in the
other corner. Why?
So before I go into this, it says men
and women operate differently. [music]
They pray differently. And there's a
fascinating thing I just said. If I had
another half a second, which I don't, I
would tell you that this Why do you
think we have a mita? You think it's
because of steers? That's a 19th century
idea. There are always two reasons. One
was the other one is that men [music]
and women pray differently. And why do
people go to a Giants game? It's much
better to watch the football game on TV.
You're comfortable. You're not freezing.
You're what off? You're you're able to
hear a commentary. Why did they go?
Because the environment gives them
co-ak. Everyone else is cheering next to
you. That doesn't happen in your living
room, right? In Shul the [music] people
who dive in next to you, they reflect
off of you. And so [music] women and men
have a different path. The nie talks
about it. the sardic the the uh Abu Abu
Janeer talks about it. It's a it's
[music] it's we separate not just for
sneers. It's another reason we separate
because we want to be with people who
pray like us and women have a different
prayer. You guys are a corporation. You
fund it. She does it. That's it.
[applause]