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Does One Make a Bracha on Shiluach HaKen? (Sending Away the Mother Bird) by Rav Aschi Dick
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testing so I I uh I didn't feel well on
Tuesday I made a short I made a short
death
um yeah I made a short one this I made a
short one this year the truth I didn't
even finish this uh this referen we're
going to be done in 20 minutes we're
going to have a lot of you guys can
start
so so what's the what's the so here this
is basically came today this morning
from myi abramov he has he had a a
chicken made a nest on his on his
porch so it's exciting you get to do the
Mitzvah
so right right
so right so the basically things like
this normally
if you have a dove coat in
your is so first of all is only with a
kosher animal the pigeons pigeons are
Kosher koser Birds kosher Birds kosher
Birds is only for kosher Birds you if
you have an eagle or an owl setting up
aest there
no
um any kosher
bird doesn't have to be a a chicken but
there is a din
of according to the
r you mentioned this to me every once
about the rim right that the r has a
interesting opinion he holds that you're
not supposed to do unless you really
want the
eggs that's thein of he says otherwise
it's that's the opinion of the r
although most hold not that way hold
that
it's wres that if you're on your way to
and you pass by Nest you have to do
before going to that's a big most can
agree with
that
he
yeah why not you should be able to do
there's no reason why you should not be
the only they don't
do
another how what's the best way to do
according to the ram you're supposed to
push its wings so you might have an
issue of M so then maybe you shouldn't
do it on CH you I didn't even think of
that child Murray this is not the first
time you got me thinking about a good
question the egg is M egg is M so you
have to do it after shabas because you
can't take the eggs you can't take
the you've done you've done it
one
yeah
yeah so you send away the mother you
know according to the the
Zohar oh so that's today's that's the
discussion of today's sh no no so the
truth is so basically the according to
Ram you're supposed to move by the wings
or you can CH you can do with a
broomstick too it's also okay you can
also do with a broomstick the big
question is do you make you need to make
a
br so the Raam hold you shouldn't do it
unless you really want the eggs or the I
think I think you mentioned that Rabbi
slifkin had an article about this when
and he
mentioned because the reason is because
the Z says that there's a reason to do M
again the mother comes back back she
sees her eggs are not there or her
chicks are not there so she cries and
when Hashem sees how the chick is crying
for her babies hasem has on his babies
this would be that's the Z
so so here the tah gave you the
instructive not to be concerned about
here the Torah told you to do
the what would be the Tois according to
the Zar the Tois would be
that egg or chick either of the two
either one of the
two because it's cruel it's cruel
yeah right so the Torah is saying
here that's the r that's the
r very good like Rabbi where the calf
came writing to him and
said right that's the according to the
ra it's unless you need the egg unless
you need the
chick according to the Z and
that's know there's
a but we don't
pass we don't pass
either there are I'll give you some
examples we passing according to the zor
for example in of right at the beginning
there are a lot of
about that are based in the Zar for
example not to go four not to go four
cubits before
doing so that only comes from the
Z because of
the very good the
the very good so there was there was
a
okay okay so you become you become holl
you become Dutch
tonight I think Theos says 1 hour Theos
say the go to one
hour there's no we don't find in the
three
hours because they used to have tea they
used to have tea in the afternoon so
what's the times are was six hours but
in the in Holland used have tea in the
afternoon was three hours they couldn't
give up on their tea
so the Dutch kept three hours the r says
the is
in R says the Dutch three hours the r
says that the minute was to keep one
hour you you have a Dutch
M my very close D
yeah
yeah one
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hour it was but you can't have the same
sud that you have to bench that's there
is a even in the that says that once you
bench after you're meeting meal you can
already move on to the mil okay she have
to
bench we first have and
then so in
you're you can't no if you have F first
and you have it in the same meal then
it's if you bench then it depends on
minog according to one Min gets an hour
get three hours ACC gets five in a bit
or six but to have first fling and then
milk in the same meal that's that's
also
yeah
yeah correct
exactly but that M me and M it's even
poultry that's the way we
pasing that's right mean the rice that's
only it's cooked
together all we Heap one Dr on the other
the other we he many Dr on
sorry so uh yeah definitely came
okay
yeah
okay in
West even in the Muslim
countries
okay
mdodo
yeah
okay having right
it's an amazing piece of he says
manag Liv a
lot
basis us okay reminds me one time that
uh there was
a 203% I don't I I think that the fact
that we have that it's only 230% that's
the everywhere I mean logically they
have a retention rate of 80% is I think
way better than most estimates that were
made 20 or 80 years
ago 23 230% is sad we're not happy that
20 30% are not keeping shabas but but
overall 80% is still better than what it
could have been they're not saying
they're not keeping shabas they're not
staying or the
Army okay
right in in in North America it's
probably 80 or
90%
70%
conis kids for us it's an interesting
thing it's another it reminds me there
was a g that was giving a a a lecture at
aim seminar soim is organization that
reaches out to to make them from so he
had a seminar so then the abortion
debate was raging and the were in the
theet were pushing for tighter abortion
laws and the were very upset about it so
one woman stood up and she challenged
this kir worker about the trying to to
restrict to restrict abortion he says
how can you tell us about when we're
supposed to abort he's going okay okay
fine I hear what you're saying I just
want to give you a fresh perspective you
may have never thought about right who
would who would consider
abortion not most woman would never even
consider abortion save if it's a case of
down or or some illness whatever so
who's considering abortion secular
families right so we're doing you a
favor right the 70 or 80,000 people that
we would that we convinc not to abort
through it was this Dr um ephrat what's
his name is it sadic this he was a Dutch
doctor I think from or from Switzerland
forgot his name he set up this
organization of frat he said that he
ready he gives a financial incentives to
women not to abort provide social work
or whatever else he says I already
convince 70 80,000 women not to abort so
he brought 70 80,000 I'm sure percentage
a larger percentage of them are not
voting for the parties they're probably
voting for The he say you should thank
us okay I don't know if that's exactly
so true but that was just something that
your story reminded me
of
because
uhuh it's very poor it's the poor sector
it's the poor sector Society they don't
know how to take the morning they don't
know how to use Excuse me they don't
know how to use the condoms or they
don't know how
to right take the
pills to the pills
yeah
yeah crisis don't know what to
do aging whereas like Israel maintaining
four whatever they'll be able
supportes I know it's a major crisis
I remember right here in this
room so I remember that it was in this
room Rabbi Kowski who was the head of
the ukash he held to see him over here
in this room he invited the staff and
they were doing packages for the
soldiers so I came here I sat with RAB
gold shider and RAB shimel we sat there
at the corner and then um RAB AI Burman
invited rabm who is his rebi to come
speak here so somebody asked him he says
there was a news piece going around that
your son
aahu who is one of the ministers in the
government there was the her Heritage
Minister I think Nel fired him or not
because he said something about dropping
an Adam mom or whatever so they asked so
he I heard right here in this room he
told the whole crowd here he said my son
of was approached by the foreign
minister of Italy and the foreign
minister of it wrote him a letter and
saying that I better be careful because
this is is going on
uh but he wrote him a letter and he says
basically we have no future in Italy
because we have an aging population and
we're not having enough kids to replace
the mortality rate says you have the
future right so have to you come and you
get back some of your National
Treasures
the Italy Italy apparently has some of
the National Treasures of ours somewhere
in the basement in the Vatican so there
were some rumors that aai eliahu was
offered by the Italian forign Minister
if they want to come and get back some
of the National
Treasures I don't know I'm not sure the
last piece I'm not sure if it's accurate
or not but he said an entire letter
where the
foreign there is anything there exactly
but what what we have the gumar says
that I was in Rome and I saw the tit
the yeah
yeah I mean what happened they they
brought listen I don't know what they
have I don't want I don't know what they
have but when then they destroyed the
Bas M they took a lot of treasures I
don't know what probably a lot of they
may have some of the maybe I mean even
when they dig in uh in ear in in in ear
Yuda they are finding all sorts of
things you go there it's fascinating you
find coins that have the inscription or
signatures or stamps from names that are
in the T like for
example's
secretary his ministers you see they
find stamps that have the
name I know I'm just getting a cup of
water look har I wouldn't consider it so
farfetch if they still hold a lot of
treasures it makes sense because what
happened I don't know if they have the
Min I don't know what they have but they
probably have a lot of Jewish National
treasur is
nicer it's still it's I don't
know it'sa you know that anything that
was part of has has a kadha and it's
GZA a good question
because you have wear rubber gloves cuz
you're Tomy so you it may
not probably anyways
Tom anyways Tom you know these are shist
that the PO have to
work I how
to I don't know if there is such a
thing so anyway so it's interesting
questions so anyway so we'll talk a
little bit about the but whether or not
to make a because it's interesting you
have a mitzah I don't know how many
other mitzah you have where the poim can
come to a consensus whether or not to
make a why would oh so that's going to
be what we're going to very good why not
make AA exactly why not make a so so
this is this is the topic of tonight J
now can you think of any other
Mitzvah it's unanimous that you don't
make a
no CU it's
to
no no so that's
why but I'm you're right we're going to
discuss why there's
no right because it's something that you
would do even if you were not commanded
it's a mitvah
yeah there's
two and there's also
another the ra listen these two mitz
that's the main
mitzah both both of these Mitzvah so
right so things that you would have done
even one of the reasons you don't make a
is things that you would have done
anyways even if you were not commanded
to do it so you don't make a but I'm
trying I'm pointing out that I can't
think of any other Mitzvah where nobody
could agree as to whether or not you
make a maybe maybe when you build a
fence around uh around the roof could be
there's also
there is a we pass make yeah we make
a that I've never seen it's an
interesting idea I've never seen
that in the of
what who's
that
okay
but but yeah but it's very interesting
even until today's day of an age even
until today's day of age you should make
a you should not make
a so the number one in the reference
sheet I didn't even finish the reference
sheet because I want oh so we'll see
that you don't make because it's not you
only make a that has a set time that
comes from time to time
and he doesn't
say I know it's very perplexing with
more I very good because it's not B man
it's interesting my friend always points
out a
guy no but there's no set time as to
when it comes my friend says how ironic
it is that you B you bake a new house
you build a new house and then you buy a
I don't know what a tie so you can make
a on the house right it's
ironic on the tie you make a to be to
the
house right because it's a yeah so when
it comes to clothing and a new fruit you
do make
a why is it's I don't have an
answer I don't have an answer to your
question it's a good
question well they make on the tal no no
that thebody say it might be it might
not be good for him it might no they say
that they say when you get married the
third one he says when you get married
you don't know if he's going to be a
successful marriage you know one of the
things there was a big controversy about
prenuptual so my grandfather about
prenuptials prenups so he said you can't
make a prenup you can already go into
the marriage and you're going to allow
for a havina that you're going to get
divorced so my uncle says my grandfather
says what is AA that's what AA is AA is
a
prap right the the says that who's a
when somebody when he marries a woman
and she had girls from a previous
marriage so normally what they would do
is the woman would have the husband sign
that he's going to support the woman's
daughters from a previous marriage so
the gor says that a that a p Miss what's
a p somebody who makes makes a
stipulation that if she dies he's going
to discontinue to support the daughters
because if she dies or get divorced he
has to continue to support the daughters
so he writes if we get divorce I'm not
supporting your daughters thear the M
says so it's that prenups there's
nothing wrong with
prenups you know they say this a school
to buy so I have a new school it's a
school for a good marriage to write
prenups okay this to offset the the the
bad thing but nothing wrong with prup so
the says that make number
one so the is from the from he says that
you
make it's also the sa from theid he says
the same thing he says that it's
like who mentioned one of you mentioned
here you don't make a because it's when
you go to the person who says that
you're doing him a favor maybe he won't
want you to visit him maybe visiting him
isn't alleviating his condition
or
right so he's saying your MIT is to go
visit him for the I take off truma he
doesn't want my Trum he says I don't
like to take away I
so make because theah to be the not to
give no it's the gar the gamar is the
mitah make on
the yeah the mitz is on the the mitzah
is not necessarily on the right so he
says basically
any why is there no because maybe maybe
the person won't want want to take take
it from you
so want
to so it's probably also you don't make
a if it's contingent on his agreement so
therefore he's the person that's causing
the the Mitzvah to get to its completion
so therefore there's no
yeah the name of the was um no he was a
German he was the tal of his name name
was
um I'll look it up in
Sephia he was a he was a German Sage of
the
very
interesting that's also for
interesting yeah interesting I didn't
know that I didn't know
that I would assume so yeah unless I was
interesting
would probably not it's not an AA no no
but but the procedure B the procedure
Bing yeah maybe make a
so they don't need to make
the
maybe I never
thought I think you make a br yeah
yeah
that I never
heard
okay
okay and then
all what they didn't give him they
didn't do the they didn't escort him so
that's why that's my TR so I I'll tell
you
this
and he
says okay I'm saying like this there's a
gun who he going to go
or the guy's dejected it's true it's
true that's the the person feels
dejected it makes him more
vulnerable so so basically we have the
that says you make a we have the r that
says you make a you have the that makes
and there's actually an
explicit they asked him if you make
a
says some say make so you see that the
Raj is already not so not so sure
whether or not he
says it depends on the Min so apparently
the Raj already lets us know that there
were some places that had the Min to
make some places did not have the to
make the in another place
in okay maybe because he was a
pharmacist
number five or he could have been a
maker of
incense perhaps
yeah yeah
par
yeah y y
correct okay
missa
okay so very
good all right so we have the number
five
is the Raj here the Raj doesn't say it's
t in one TR the Raj says some
say here the Raj is much more
unequivocal or I should say more yeah
she
says you know there's a Mitzvah to
return a theft there's also mitz to
return it's a but you don't make
a because it's aah it's only a Mitzvah
that you're doing because you
didn't we would have preferred that you
would have never had had he would never
needed to do this
Mitzvah right and he says the same
thing it's the same thing it's a
Mitzvah we don't say there's a Mitzvah
to do somehow he holds that doing theah
is
aah nobody understands what this mean
all the have no idea what the Raj was
talking about
why no but
the
that
Allin so it's the same thing so the T to
the
said but you can't call a if the Tera
tells you to do you can't call it a the
terce say not to be concerned about in
this
case
so that would mean that only time when
you don't want the eggs that's the only
time the
like no when the T says to do something
it's not a a if the T says to do
something
something he's making TM has to
BR
Maybe
it's a bit of a if the T says to do
again you can call that
a we'll see I think we have a better
issue I think we have a better
isue the mother if you don't e the eggs
but not all the not all the agree most
that's but if you don't learn like
the right if you learn like the Z and
other there's actually a Mitzvah to
pursue theah maybe the r learn like the
r
perhaps but what would happen if I want
the eggs I want the
chicks then I would make a or maybe
plug I think maybe the thei might say
what you're saying but I think there's
another better for the Raj but let's
number six
right so the says there's no there's no
mitvah to make very good because because
very often the husband hates the wife
and he's doing an a by hating his ex
soon to be
ex-wife so maybe they didn't have
children so it seems that since often
times the when one does GID there's an
element of a involved so that's you
don't make a
that's is there Mitzvah to write
HB yeah the also brings
from he spells Pat with a tough most of
the spell Y and Pat lived in the same
generation as the R's father-in-law and
also there was the riv of was the he had
a son-in-law the riv was the B who wrote
the glasses on the R so he was a famous
God in that period And he says also no
because it's aah if you look at the
Bold says we're not mat to take the
mother what is that supposed to mean
we're not mats if you unless you're
saying that but wants to say that he's
talking about a case where you don't
want the chicks to and he learns like
the maybe that would be the them would
fit also quotes
the and
in right the he wrote this Tru to the
rid the and the r wrote back and the r
is this makes no
sense the riv already says this doesn't
make any sense what a is there to do is
an a
so the r
is again but the T says there's no the T
says to send away the mother then
there's no
issue is there mitah I think so no
because does anybody
know I case yet I don't
remember you know you know the mitzah
you to have relations with a
woman so they say theim say there that
she might not want she might not agree
it's to do she has to
agree no you're not allowed to rape a
woman no no no no no
no the is that if a person has relations
with a woman then she with his with the
wife of his late brother then they then
there is a a kadan the marriage is
consummated but you're not allowed to
forer the
is so maybe make on the
M but you don't make a you know that
have a discussion why you don't make a
because it's only it's dependent on
getting to the by the you can't really
do it it happens in
stages when you do the there's no
because you have to wait for when you
get to it's already she has
to
oh so we'll get to that we'll get to
that we'll get to that a very good point
so already the sh quotes
this he quotes the of the Raj and the
yat and palat and then he also quotes
the objection of the rid and the also
along the lines of not the that we
mentioned previously who one of the this
is the is a
Turkish so he says it doesn't make any
sense this what what kind of business is
that look at the
second he's comparing to returning a
theft he says it doesn't make any sense
how can you it's not an a the T says to
do something it's not a a the T
everybody here many of you want to say
that is an issue of the T says that here
you don't need to be concerned
about where are
you the second line on the top of the
page he
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says because that's somebody can't make
a if somebody steals a saw and then uses
it to make
mat the says it's like a disgrace
doesn't want
a after you got into this situation
because of
an
no so we say yeah but yeah but he's
not so the is that by needs to be
but the have to be the mat but the is
very we have many RS that just by eating
the mat it already becomes yours but
it's still it's it's it's it's it's a
a
I think so I think
so it so depends if you steal the flower
you go to the mat if you steal the
actual matah
then
yeah it's the same thing
even when you steal it
yeah so it's a it's it's
AA
it's
a yeah he's he doesn't make
a yes the Matas are
his but there's no doesn't
want doesn't want that praise when the
whole situation came about because of a
the you know the was everybody talks
about
the
I once had I once
had I once had two people knock at my
door for
Sedaka and uh I know what made me ask
them I said are you guys from
narta what made me something made me
think that nart they said yes we are
narta so I said are you sure you want to
take money from me I'm a and you don't
take money from
yeah okay first
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time I'm sure there was a lot of people
colle
no the the
gr to
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you all right good for them good for
them tell tell an interesting story I
have a neighbor George Lowenstein in my
building he was most for most of his
life he was a conservative Jew he was
most of his life who was a conservative
Jew at the end of his life he he joined
the ranks of mon Orthodoxy he doens in
the
D so he wants to he D in
the so on I knocked on his door and I
sat to chat with him now he has a wife
do she she has theia she's not
responsive she just sits in her chair
and just stares at the ceiling so he has
the he has the television on the whole
day with you know kids dancing and
clapping you know Children's shows but
she just sits there what to stimulate
her but she totally nonresponsive and I
always say hello how are you I smile I
sometimes get a bit of a smile from her
they're both about
90 so George he was a conservative Jew
most of his life he reads the Jerusalem
Post and he says what's the s with and
the workforce you know we're discussing
that topic bit of a sore topic so just
as we're discussing this we got a knock
at the door and the aid the Filipino Aid
opens the door and walk in that don't
speak English and they were collecting
money so he turns me say what do they
want say said they need money so just in
the midst of talking about this issue so
they said you couldn't I was tell you
couldn't have not found a better time
to so they see but these two they see
this old lady sitting on the couch
totally unresponsive and you know just
instinctively they just put their hands
and I started dancing in front of her
she literally started smiling and she
started talking she said that's amazing
she do turns to George and says that's
the best that's the and she just starts
to talk and laugh and it brought her to
life it was like a switch was turned off
a woman was like this totally
nonresponsive these twoim came in there
they were snoring for money they danced
for her and all of a sudden she came
back to life she was
talking so the thing that but the thing
is that when they walked in the first
response was right what do you hear to
make AEM but they did but in the end
they did him a bigger favor than he
could have ever done for them so that
was an interesting
story so he gave them yeah so so the B
also says he doesn't understand this um
this Raj he
says what's the saying the tah told you
you have to do an a the tah says you
have to do you can time with the T told
you to do very and they all come up with
all sorts of theories and the only one
who exactly so nobody understands this
by the way this Raj was a mystery they
found a the only one who figured it out
and he said the m in this RBA is number
12 is the
sa from of Kazi he was a Turkish Sage
who lived about 300 years ago it was
very impressive ismir produced a
staggering number of state of of sages
if you look at the fredberg
rambam has a lot a lot of sages from
turkey and they're all very good the
most famous of them is the
Mish yeah went through turkey but the
the marit
gazi was um I wonder maybe if gazi was
from the same family as the algazi had
the sh the Mish theak k a staggering
number of stages of sages so this
Bazi he says very nicely I didn't I
didn't write up I didn't put together
enough sources the Mish and this I'm
going to have to say because I was in a
rush I had to get I try to get they want
me to send the source sheets on Tuesday
so I try not to have it any later than
Wednesday morning at 10 I send it out at
11 I didn't get all the so the the
in brings
between it's the the end of the very end
of if somebody takes the mother if
somebody takes the chicks without
sending away the mother does he get
malus says he gets malus
right no it
says so that's the if you took the
mother there's a way to fix it how do
you fix the ver by by putting the chicks
back and sending away the mother so
anytime you have an A that the tur gives
you a way to fix it a response you don't
you don't get malus an
example you steal the T says how do you
fix the theft by giving back the money
so there's no malus for
stealing so then he'll get
Mal according he always gets according
to there's no because there's a way to
fix it says no is not telling you how to
fix
it is telling you the ideal way to go
about things the ideal is to send away
the mother and the improper way to do it
is to take the chicks when without
sending away the mother so there's
between and the how to understand
according
to is a solution for somebody who did
the who didn't do it right according to
the t is giving you the instruction has
how to do it
right oh so so
the says according to there's no to send
away the mother it's it's
preventing it's preventing there's
no according
to very good according to you would have
to make a but according to the you don't
make a because sending away the mothers
not a when the Torah
said was talking about a case for
somebody who did the wrong thing and to
fix and says if you look at the
continuation of the r there in gim gim
the Raj says the same thing there's
no to send away the
mother is a way of fixing the a so the
we know that the in the beginning
of brings
the
says that it's
not because there's no the is to
do right says the the r Accord according
to the rush and the Run he says that
when you marry a woman the
mitah is only completed when you get to
the it's too late to make a I don't
remember why I think re because it's
Tot so therefore you never make a on you
never make a a could when you let's say
eat kosher meat you make a thank youm
that you commanded us not I'm not EA I'm
not eating pork there's no such thing as
making a on a you always make a
on
so here when it comes
to yeah
exactly okay is everybody
okay okay everything
okay okay so so so very good so now so
when would you have to make a when would
you
be if you if you screwed it up you
messed it up that's a Mitzvah but
that's
the that's
the
that's there's
no it's only
avoiding when is the say when you
screwed it up to fix the fact that you
didn't send away the mother that's when
the Torah say but then
it's that's the if you read the Raj you
go through the Raj it's written in the
words even though the didn't see it but
once the explained it this way you'll
see it's m written in the words of
the is that clear am I is this so but
but not withstanding there are there's a
ritv that holds that no even according
to has a dual
meaning is a dual instructive it's an
instructive how to do things
rightly and also a way to fix it so the
other did you make
they were of the's opinion that held
that when the tah
says was even when you do it right so
therefore
there's that when you do
theah according to many the only thing
that you're doing is avoiding but you're
not doing a that fits very nicely with
the according to the there's no mitvah
to run
after if you want the mother you want
the chicks you have a say you have
negative command not to take the chicks
or the eggs without the mother there's
Noah
to it's avoiding
other to do it and it that's whether or
not you
make
yeah no if you want yeah you know that
I'm not sure about but if you want the
chicks and you want the eggs and you go
through the bother of sending away the
mother then you'll get AR
so it's a beautiful it's it's none of
the have any the riv who was on the
on the Rival was of the
opin but was of the
opin it's only avoiding that's why
there's no and when is there say when
it's aah when you did the wrong thing
and now you have to fix it up then you
have a by then it's already that's the
em
couldn't figure it out the didn't figure
it out but he got
it that's the the ones that say you
don't make a hold that the only thing
you're doing is avoiding say and the r
and the r in the beginning of say you
never make
a the ones who you do make a because
they H that you're also
being however not withstanding there are
we saw that on one side you have the
rid and
the Raj is is une the Raj is equivocal
the Raj isn't so clear one place the Raj
says no the other place the Raj says
some people have the minic some people
don't have the Min but those who are
very clear
the you don't
make said you don't
make says you don't make but he brings
another reason he says there a that
might be like what you're saying that
there's a little bit of an aspect of
because he may like the
ra but you have that say you do make a
you have say you don't make a and you
also see that throughout the you also
have the split for example the also
another um number 13 also another
Turkish Sage that lived probably a bit
after the he holds that you do make
a was very adamant that you make a and
the Misunderstood the r he didn't
understand understand the in the RBA he
thought that the Raja was saying that
only in a case where you messed it up
you don't make a you don't make a but if
you didn't mess it up you didn't make a
that's not the the r meant to say sorry
the Raj meant to say that if you mess it
up you don't make a because when you
don't mess it up you don't make a
because you're not doing
it yeah XA for example you mess it up
you
stole I no maybe I'm not sure so the by
the way the make the
ad he brought down quoted from that he
made
a but but but rash andad most they don't
make a so it's an interesting thing that
you see the began already between
the and the carries
down
make you do
make and according to most other
plac you don't I personally hold you
don't make because
it's you can make a because there's no
there's no say involved there
only and if you mess it up then it's
going to be a mitvah you'll
have so that's interesting the Raj the
Raj that you make
a but
the so there's a lot of in like
s when do you make a and when you and
it's a very difficult because every ran
gives a a CL and then they all come
along well there's this exception and
that
exception right for example one of the
things is if it's something that you
have to do right so one of the things if
you if it's something that you have to
do if it's something mandatory
compulsory then you make a of
of right so they asked what
about we
say so they see that's you see it's not
doesn't fit every reason that they give
a whole bunch of exceptions it's very
it's it's a big Su and it's so confusing
that I hate getting into the Su because
some say whether you can do it through a
some say it's totally whether it's
mandatory or not but you have according
to most reasons in fact it would be more
logical to
say
but you make
a but according to Most B we don't make
a
yeah makes the though if you if there
would be
a I don't know what do you say here you
hear his question M he's asking if I
send you to do who gets whose life gets
longer all
right
yeah you know no there there's
enough right so it's interesting that
there there's a there are there is a
sheet in the in the too it's a minority
opinion it's the sheet of the SM the
brings down interesting he says the gor
says that a son doesn't have to Shell
out money for the MIT of
but if it's a mitvah it's not we don't
pass the she of the and the by the that
if it's if you're being the MIT
of with your actual goof then you do
have to Shell out money the only time
you don't have to sh out money is if
you're just doing it but not it's
there's
correct right the end
ofes that you don't have to
sh has a draw
remember
right right so you remember it's thear
in the first
par over
there it's the in
the say and I think the G there brings
as a source why when it comes
to I don't remember the the I think the
first
yeah does anybody know I don't remember
what you
make I think he
makes yeah but there's so many
exceptions of the rule that's why I
don't know how to get into the Su
because you once you get into the sugya
you get you get all tangled up but so
that's the so therefore after all of
this back and forth as they say a lot of
say make a I won't deny that but I think
you should not make a what you can do is
you can make
a
without