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the minute is to cover up
the written part with a handkerchief
with a cloth between one man and another
between one Ali and another.
in Armadino is that it should be rolled.
So the says the is to cover it up
and the Ramos says the min is to roll
it.
Now the mahaba had said previously
that the way you get aliyah is you open
up the safer before your mavar in order
to see the p that you're starting then
you make the bra
and after you read you close it and your
mavar so there's a little bit of a stra
the already told you you need to close
the safer tora after the aliyah so why
is he saying here you should cover it
it's closed
So that's what the is bothered by.
What do you mean you have to cover it?
No, you don't have to cover it. You have
to close it. That's what the said in
the we don't close it.
And instead of closing,
however, the says no.
The minute goes,
now many,
you don't have to tell me if you're a
Gabby.
Um but many gabam have a vend have like
this vendetta that they as soon as Ali
is over they run they cover the safer
where they get that from well who asked
them to cover it it's either you cover
the kav or you roll it but to roll it
and cover where they where they make
that one up from so the says
um because of the feminis
doesn't need to be covered
you're not allowed to cover it. It's an
extra
only where they say those then you're
finished reading. Or if there are mish
or if they're making a blessing for the
queen of England
in some countries they're thousands of
miles away from England they're still
making they're still blessing the queen
of England.
you know, they're worried about the
queen that's thousands miles away and
they're also worried about, you know, a
certain country in middle of the Middle
East, you know, but in certain countries
they make Misha. They're very busy
making then you need to cover the safer
otherwise you're not allowed to cover
it. It's the
So all you gabam there that get cover
happy, you know, you think your main job
is to stand there taking the mant and
covering it. Stop it. Stop it.
Just stand there. Stand there quietly,
respectfully. Stop covering the safety.
What
>> if have the different theras when they
talk about closing it and rolling it?
Were they dealing with those type of
Toras that we that the maybe there's did
they or did they recognize it as part of
this?
>> Yeah. What what what factor is there
whether it's horizontal or
>> could if you if you covering it standing
horizontal versus when they say close it
versus rolling it maybe maybe these cars
has a different idea of that because
they're not really rolling it. They're
not agle it. They just really just close
the the the case.
I hear that's what the do today. Um I
can't tell you what Koy did. He says the
word goal. You know he says the word
goyal. That implies they
they rolled it. Or maybe that was
synonymous with closing it.
By the way,
by the way, what does the mean
either they sing for the or
what does
you know the guy when he gets aliyah
he's he comes prepared with his card.
You know, you ever see the guy with the
card? He has the names all the way from
Rashi
through to back to Sandler
Katanogen.
He has the whole family there. So you
know now just to um I'm not going to I'm
not giving today forget it. Um I'll tell
you after
what about in a place where they're not
marak like that. What if they just make
a m one mish do not cover it. But if you
make two for the and the mishb then you
cover it. Okay. So the bottom line is go
over to your gabi. The gabish I think he
feels I think he feels that he's
contributing enough to the world. I
don't think usually the gabayish has
this you know urge to constantly cover
the safer. It's more the gabay sheni
who's one he has this existential
question. What is his role in this
world? He he I'm sure he can make many
contributions to the world. It should
not be jumping to cover the safer. In
fact, he's it is user to cover the
safer. It's
you say really it's only 0001 second.
That's also
that's also fine.
Why don't you leave it open?
It's not cover that should be open
and wait for someone else to come.
Okay.
Some say he would have to make it again.
So is saying you say
and you say the and you say it loud. If
you say it quietly you're making a
mistake. Some say you would have to
repeat it out loud.
Look in the
first let's see the
explains what the reason for is
and why you have to say it out loud
have to be out loud
the lush
of
implies you would have to actually go
back and say the again. If you're if
you're a mumbler, you know, then you
would have to repeat the again. How
could that be? Isn't that isn't that
from all the proofs? It's only you have
to say again if you say it quietly
on top the Ram's reason is only for
even though from the
it's you say the out loud but but the
evidence not
and even the reason of the if you say
quietly your goal as it's true you did
an isser but you have to say the braha
again
however even though the macar the says
that the b brings you could push it away
like the rabba asks however
fundamentally
maybe In fact, you do have to make the
bra again. In other words, says even
though I agree the proof the brought is
not conclusive, but logically if you
said the quietly, shouldn't you have to
repeat them? What's the reason they were
massing the for
so it's you get up there and go,
you know what? Huh? What? What are you
saying? We don't know if you're reciting
the, you know, the telephone book or
you're saying
or you're saying, I don't know. Maybe
you pulled out your from, you know,
you've been busy with that the whole
morning. Maybe you did it again now. So,
we don't know what you're doing. That's
not maybe you have to do it again. Who's
that?
Also the says he found the
he says
the whole reason you say it is for the
latecomers that they should hear it. So
if they're going to hear it, if the
whole reason we're messing is for people
to hear it and they came late and they
didn't hear it, so you didn't fulfill
the ta.
So it says in conclusion even though if
you said it quietly we're not going to
make you go back
but nevertheless you make it your
business to say the loud enough that the
people who came late now this guy who
came late he has ear he still has his
earbuds in so do you have to say it so
late that even he could hear it no you
don't I don't think so but you should
say it loud enough that people who are
conducting themselves in a normative
manner will be able to hear the bra.
Okay, we'll hold it over here.
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