Do Litvaks still hate Chabad? What’s it like being a Frum truck driver?

Hey guys, welcome to the fifth edition of the Clappy and Frank. It's a little crazy to say fifth already and it's been a really amazing, incredible journey. Fifth episode, uh the last episode got almost 8,000 views. We're asking everybody to please like and subscribe. It doesn't cost you any money. Hit the like button on the bottom. Subscribe. you'll get notifications on all our future videos and podcasts. It's very important. It's important that we reach a thousand um subscribers right away that we can be monetized and make the t-ching. >> Today we have the great honor of having Yitsy Shvitz uh longtime truck driver in the food business and our my other channel is ex everyday people and we want to know what is a good Jewish boy driving a truck? What is a Jewish bookm? It's a It's a honor to be here. It's an honor to be here. But uh I I got uh this all started during co I was working a regular job >> during what >> for a company that sold nursing home supplies and we got laid off everybody and it just turned out that other doors opened up. No one was willing to work at that time and I said to myself, I cannot sit at home all day and do nothing. It's not possible. I said, "God, I'll try to do the best that I can to help people." And I got involved with desserts. I got involved with catering, helping everyone, doing these kasas in their backyards. And that led to a whole different uh avenue. And driving a truck is one of them. And it's fun. I get to go around places that I would never ever go on a regular basis. >> Y if you went on your first date and you told your wife that you're gonna become a truck driver, how would that uh play itself out? >> It'd be one and done. >> One and done. >> I just wanted to mention you mentioned something interesting that a lot of your success happened because of co. >> Yes. >> Which is something that happened in my personal life. That's when I bumped into Mishi Frank and I started my art career and my Judeica career. to him on co >> and it's just very very interesting what I'm finding out now from interviewing many people is that Barak Hashem many people that were laid off from their jobs and they thought oh my god how am I going to support my family a lot of my friends went back to school they were in their mid-30s they went back to school they got their master's degree and they're doing really well financially now education accounting business one or two in medicine but I'm finding that it was a reset button on a lot of people Hashem works in mysterious ways got laid off from their job and their new careers are way way better than they ever imagined with what they worked in until then. So, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you? >> I am 42. >> 42 years old. And you worked different jobs until CO happened. And then when CO happened, you went into catering and to trucking. >> Yes. >> Because you wanted to feed your family. >> It wasn't just that. It also I cannot sit at home. I was a a little bit of a skeptic on CO to begin with. That's from the beginning. And I'm not going to hide that. I was very skeptical on it. And I just couldn't sit at home. I couldn't be locked up and not be outside, not not going anywhere. It I had no direction. I had nothing. It was just like get up and like watch TV or sit on the computer and watch YouTube all day. I can't do that. And I just I couldn't and I people were calling can you can you do this? Can you do that? Can you do this? >> So how did it go from sitting on the couch not knowing where you're gonna get your next $5 from to driving a truck? >> So it went like this. I they were doing in the backyards of people and a a friend of mine who's a caterer called me up. I need someone to do pickups in Williamsburg for me and in Monroe. Monroe. I came for the first time there and it was like I left New York. It was >> picking up what? >> Picking up kalas food trays of uh of of of sesame chicken chan trays all these kind of things. And I walked in and >> you were never in the food business until then. >> I was in the food business. I grew up in the food business. my p my my my my my my my my uncle owned the bakery and I grew up in it and I worked there in in the bakery but after I got married I did I was not in the food business and I knew the people I knew all the the caterers and I knew all these people but it wasn't like my life my life was not I worked for a company that did nursing home supplies and we we did nothing to do with food >> but what was what was your job in the nursing home Well, we did we sold clothing to residents. Private residents ordered clothing and uniforms for staffing and we took the orders. We packed it and we were running uh we were running uh sales at facilities. That was my job. >> So Y as I start open the question, what's a good Jewish boy driving a truck? Um, first of all, could driving create a viable living for a front person with a bunch of kids in uh private school in in Yeshiva. >> Uh, it's very difficult. You have to have side hustle. You have to have I have several side hustles and I got involved in catering and and I consult for them all the time and that really without that I I couldn't survive. But it can make a living. But obviously there's limits because there's a lot of guys who are doing now uh you know random driving like car service type of driving. And sometimes it's more convenient to just send four or five deliveries than paying a guy you know full-time salary and then he's working maybe only 30 hours a week. So people end up hiring the guy for the day. There's a lot of competition in that. You you own a truck? No. So you drive a truck for a food company? >> For a food company. >> And you get paid by the delivery route or by a weekly salary. >> I get paid a weekly salary and and I do some sales so I get a little bit of commission and I get and I get around and I do also some catering so I get a lot I I do a lot of consulting for that. So I get a salary from that too. In 2011 17 I was looking for a career change and I interviewed with like a lot of Jewish companies. >> Yeah. and two Hisha companies. One's a salad company and one's like a dry good nuts company. Nobody's getting any free advertisements, so I'm not going to say their name, but na names and brands that everybody heard of. Okay. I sat down for interviews and they were telling me like, "If you drive one of our trucks and you have a couple of guys that help you on the truck, but you'll be the driver." They wanted me to be the driver. I guess the trucks are hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah. >> They said, "But you're not just a driver." Like the Jackie Mason jokes, you know, you're not a driver. You're a producer. You're a mover. You're a shaker. They basically they contract out with the grocery stores that you come and you take out the old supplies, you put in the new supplies, and then you manage the bookkeeping. >> So salesish. >> They said it's salesish. So let's say they were offering between $800 to $1,200 a week. I think these were real numbers depending on the days and the routes, but they said that if you're aggressive and you really roll up your sleeves, you could push new items into the stores. And they made it sound like you can make like a lot more of your salary based on how hard you want to do it. When the guys are loading and unloading, if you're pushy and conniving, you can make a lot more money every week. Is that real? >> Is that a real? So the numbers, can you tell us some estimate numbers? >> That is not 100% true because you have to understand you have a company there are there are there are certain salads and type of things that move and that's built in. It's guaranteed. You know, tuna and salads. We'll use salads. Tuna, a couple other things. How many new items that you introducing that are not out there already? And you know, based on where you are in the neighborhood you are, those items move and they're going to move no matter what. But but I sorry for interrupting but I think that's also a little bit being close-minded because if you would have told me growing up in the 80s and 90s and the 2000s thousands and thousands of Shabas meals always having water and egg for $4 that it's going to come a time in Claudius that if you don't have a $21 sourdough bread every single Shambas under your >> happens to be I'm so not into that. >> I'm crazy into the sourdough. I'm so not >> I my Shambas meal is ruined without a $20 sourdough. It's a staple. It's more important than the steak and the gapilta fish. I'll give I'll give up my gapilta fish any day for a $20 sourdough. >> I can't believe it. >> But no, what I'm saying is that is the idea that oh, I have to drive the truck. I shouldn't be really be pushing because everybody wants the on the egg salad and I shouldn't be pushing the new frozen lasagna that they're offering, let's say, from one of these companies. I don't want to say their names. Could it be that a guy could drive a truck for the highish companies? There's hundreds of guys doing it, but instead of making the 80,000 a year, he could be pushing 140 if he had a new change of heart and change of mind on how to be more of aggressive salesman. Well, I think to be a a re to get real good money in sales, especially in the food industry, you can the truck takes up a lot of your time and the guys who are really doing well out in the industry are not on a truck. That's a fact. So they were trying. >> So the hybrid model is not a great model. >> Not a great model because you cannot focus. You cannot build long-term relationships. You're basically talking to the people in the stock room and the fridge guy and you're restocking shelves and yeah, you could push in an item. He'll say, "Listen, give me five cases." You say, "Oh, here's six cases. Try this new." But to get out there and be there and to really move numbers, you have to go >> just on sales. >> On sales. Yes. Y what does it from truck driver it can make 60 70 >> about about 70 >> Y how does it socially feel you go to shul one guy's an accountant one's a lawyer one's a doctor one's kyo whatever it is and then there's you're the truck driver does that do you have a chip on your shoulder because of that and >> at the beginning yes but now no I sort of at the beginning realized that you know when this happened and COVID came. I committed to I will, you know, whatever happens happens and I will make peace with whatever happened because I I was left basically fired, you know, I was out and I was very upset and I was hurt and but then they called back like a month later, you know, because they got the PP loans, so they wanted to take you back, but we were already done. But uh then they backed out from that. But I was a little hurt. But I said I said, you know, I'll be honest. I had like this spiritual moment and I don't have too many of them. But you know, I said, "God, protect me." And I promise you, I'm making peace with the world. And I want to tell you, I never wore a mask. I never got vaccinated. I never got sick. I never ever got co. I'm telling you, I made and since that time, I just don't look at what other people are. Yes, there are people are more successful, lawyers, doctors, but in some ways I'm I'm I'm very successful. I'm doing ways I'm doing things that other people haven't and I'm making money. And I see the other side also. So many people who are not making money who are who are paying tremendous amount of taxes on income and they're working very hard 80 90 hours a week and they're coming home after their salary and their tuition. What are they left with? So there there's there's a certain uh side to it. You have to look the other way also. You have to look on the other side. Not always do you have a guy who's an accountant. He's making $80,000. He's working a lot more hours than me. Especially they're starting. They're working taxis and these guys 11 12:00 at night. I don't have to work. >> At least you're around food all the day. So it's not >> around food. But we're already on the topic and I'm sure a lot of people are wondering when you go into like a popular kosher supermarket, the huge 10 aloe kosher supermarkets and you see millions of products. There's the sodas, there's the seltzers, there's the the yiddisha companies, all the all their stuff >> of course. >> Who how much of it are companies calling up distributors by quality and saying just give me this, this, and that. And how much of it is reps, aggressive reps, which I respect. I'm a hustling salesman myself coming into the stores and pushing products and getting high margins and and commissions on those products. What's the ratio? >> Well, it it it works it's it works different. Depends on what like like the standard frozen items that you see in in >> the bode frozen broccoli and all these have reps. >> It's it's not for a big company to have a distributor is also it cuts them out. So they hire their own trucks, their own their own people, their own sales reps to go in and aggressively push their items. >> But do they say the popular items that stores are going to buy anyways, they're going to buy our frozen French fries, but if you could push some some niche item, then we'll give you a higher sales commission. How does that work? >> Not always. They'll say to you like this, we we're giving you guaranteed money makers, so we'll pay a lower rate of commission. And on the on the new items and the items we want to push, we'll pay a higher rate of commission. For example, like, you know, let's say grape juice. Grape juice is a staple in every Jewish home. So, they're going to not look at it as a way to pay a high commission on grape juice because you walk into any supermarket, whatever brand it is, there's grape juice, and that's that's a standard. They're not going to pay that. But if you push the new cranberry apple juice or whatever it is, that's that they'll pay a higher rate of commission. >> You see, when people ask you, "What do you do for a living?" What's your response? >> Well, >> when someone asks, "What do you do for a living?" What do you tell them? >> Too many things. >> I I tell them, "I do catering. I do consulting. And I do I do I >> like Jackie Mason, you see. >> And I do sales. I do everything." Jesse, did you lose any friends when you told people started telling people you drive a truck or was you didn't lose any friends? >> I didn't lose any friends. >> You didn't lose. Clappy before you became famous and rich and you told people you do a customer service sales on the phone job. >> I I'm going to say, >> did you lose or gain any more friends? >> I'm going to I'm going to say it for the record. I'm going to say it right now. When I only had a 9 to5, which Havaii was only 9 to5, it was a 9 to7 9 to6 10 to 7. And my only job was doing sales, electronic sales. >> Inbound, inbound, >> inbound, whatever. It was it was intimidating and I did have a little bit of a discomfort, but I want to say something. >> When someone said, "What do you do for them?" What do you tell them? >> I said, "I'm a salesman." >> I I I I I said it the way it was, but I had a little bit of a chip on my shoulder. But I'm looking at the audience, everybody in the world from all walks of life. There is nothing to be embarrassed of. If you get up in the morning, you put your right foot in front of your left foot, and you go out and have a job to support your family. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm so honored to have Yity on the show because he went from sitting on the couch in CO, not having a job to hustling on a truck, delivering food products to doing many things to support his family. I think anybody that gets up in the morning and works hard has something so much to be proud of. So you have do you have I'm sorry Izzy clappy do you have do you feel more comfortable now telling people oh I'm an art dealer >> now that I have a marketing company I have a I have a successful podcast and I have >> what's the pitch in that one so what do you do for is it >> so I'm a salesman and I want to say something everybody in the world is selling 24 hours a day you go into the restaurant and you want the guy to reheat the pizza and he says it's hot you're like oh come on throw it back in the oven you want the extra cup of ice cubes you know you want your wife to go on the vacation that you want. You want your kids to go to bed on time and clean the room. We're all selling 24 hours a day and we all have to have a better pitch and work on our sales skills. >> So, you feel prouder now telling people what you do now >> pre art world podcaster celebrity. Now I'm more in demand. Now I have more people seeking me for my wisdom and my specialty in fine arts in Judea and in marketing. So I'm also but I'm again there's nothing to be embarrassed of. >> I understand. But you said, "Do you feel prouder?" Someone says, "What do you do?" >> Of course I feel. Of course I feel. When you have money in the bank and you you get up in the morning, you're not checking to move from the checking to the saving from this card to that card. It's a little bit easier. You're able to feel a little bit better about yourselves. But my point is is that I want everybody to be very proud of what you do. As long as you're putting in a hard day's work and you're getting up and you're doing the hustle, I'm super proud. So I think we should get to little know a little bit more about the guest. What was his upbringing? Oh, >> go for it. And also, just want to make a plug. Yitz is food Instagram. Check out his great food reviews. >> Um, I think there's maybe 50 food reviews right now. It's Instagram.com/yitz food. He has great reviews. Since he does drive around, one of the perks is everyone likes him. Very lovable, likable guy. So, everyone gives him samples and he gets to travel tri-state tasting every single food that you could dream of. I do a lot of a lot of catering and I work for caterers. I consult to them and I get a chance to taste a lot of unique foods and that's something I enjoy also. It's a great perk. >> It's clear quite clear. >> Quite clear. We met during co remember >> buff bun. He came to the gallery. >> Buff bun. Tell me a little bit about this consulting for caterers. I'm a caterer. I do bar mitzv a guy not me. Somebody's a caterer. They do bar mitzvah. They do kas. They do chevraas. What can you offer? They do paper goods. They do china. They work out of this kitchen that kitchen. this hole, that hole. How could you help caterers with your background in food now? >> So, I help people just getting the purchasing of the items. I know the the field very well. I know all the the so to speak players on the market >> and I help them and I help them try to get >> their cost down in a way that doesn't look like they got the cost down. That's what I come in. Guys, come help me out. Let's take care of it. Let's get I have to put a sweet table out there. $5,000. That's what I'm charging. Let's get it down that I can make money on it. I'm using these numbers. They're not >> easy. Where you Where you from? >> I'm from Brooklyn, New York. >> Where'd you go to Yeshiva? >> I went to Yeshiva Elementary. >> Kazde Torah >> high school. >> High school. I went to Kazde Torah for two years. >> Does that place still exist? >> It does not exist. >> Everyone I think everyone is not in this world anymore. We're not going to speak about them anymore. >> Now we can say the truth though. >> We don't want to speak of the dead, you know, about them. >> And uh we then I went to a place called Mikdash Malik that was a place, but they doesn't have a reputation of kids that dropped out of the system. They all ended up in Mikdash. A bunch of kids in my grade. >> Rabbi Shalom. >> Rabbi Shalom. Very good. This is Mikdash still exists. No, it's long gone. >> Let's Let's be honest. What type of kid were you growing up? >> I was like I I didn't know. I was naive in some way, but I was always looking to find something that was not there. >> You were behaving in Yeshiva. >> Wasn't it wasn't not behaving, but I never followed the rules. >> It wasn't I wasn't loud about it. Like I can relate. I can relate. People said you have to do this. Why? I remember I that they made a rule you had to clean up the room and and after school we made a mess or something and uh and it was in the winter and it was a Sunday and I you cannot go home until you clean the room. I sat there for three hours. >> You didn't clean it. >> I didn't clean it but I knew the rebi had to go because it was and he was a real litakia. So I knew that I was going to be out no matter what. that I'm not cleaning the room. And I never ever like he just didn't talk to me. He didn't didn't acknowledge my existence because I already I I uh broke the bubble, so to speak. >> You beat him at his own game. >> Yeah. So, that that was that was it. >> I was I never I didn't come out of my shell till much into my early 20s. >> So, you were quieter when you were younger. >> I was quieter. I didn't make trouble like like >> cuz now you're pretty popular, you see. >> Yes. But this is a new this is >> so after two years they kicked you out and then you went to Mikdash >> and they were closing and then I had like nowhere to go. So we went there because if you were you didn't have a place to go that was the only place that >> is that the reputation till today? >> I think so. There were a bunch of >> Syrians. >> It wasn't Syrians. It was like random people >> in Flapush. >> In Flapush Rabbi Shalom is Syrian >> Kabad. He was a Syrian guy. He had a partner, Rabbi Wallerstein. >> Zakaria Wallerstein, >> his uncle. >> Is he alive? >> He's still around. His uncle's still around. >> Zakaria was a good guy. >> Zakario was my substitute >> for his uncle for one week and he took us to a Yankee game. >> See, when you went to Yeshiva, what was your vision of what Yity Shitz is going to be? You had what was your >> When I was in like 17, 18, I was going to be a stock broker. That was the >> You were passing high school like secular studies. You were getting good grades. >> I was I was making it, you know. >> You got a high school diploma. >> I got a high school diploma. >> And then you were you finished high school mash at 18 years old. >> At 18 years old. And then I was like I didn't know what I was going to do. So I ended up in yeshiva my >> post post high school. >> Post high school. I ended up in Shiva Muny, which I did. I I sat and listened to the Yankee game and Mike and the Mad Dog the whole day instead of being anything to do with >> You were in the dorm instead of being in the yeshiva. >> I wasn't even in the dorm. I was outside with the Radio Shack radio listening to Mike and the Mad Dog. >> Your family's from Burough Park. >> My family's from Flatbush. >> Flatbush. You were in Muny sitting outside the yeshiva listening to Mike and the Mad Dog all day. >> Mike and the Mad Dog. >> And where was the Rashiva? >> He would come remind me that it's yeshiva. I would come in for a few minutes, learn a few words, walk back out. >> And this went on to what age? >> This went on till I went to Israel, which is a year later. >> You're 19. >> I was 19. I went to Israel. I didn't know where I was going. I went to Yeshiva Medish. I went there. I did very well there. I learned and I developed I sort of came out in that in that those three years there. >> Was Pasha no good radio shows to listen to in >> There was there was no good radio shows. Don't forget 911 happened when I was there. I had just gotten there and all these things were happening. So like the world was changing and I met new people. I was very insulated being from Flappish or everyone I knew was like within a couple blocks of my house and we went to the same shoo and we just So you grew up litfish would be the right >> I'm litfish. I grew up in like like a lot of Flappish. Yeah, a lot of Flatbush. In my in my days, it was a lot of litfish, but I only came out and I met people from outside of my circle and outside my bubble only when I got to Israel. And that also changed a lot of how I understood life and how I understood people and helped me come out. And I was I I met people who I would never have ever met had I not been there. people from South Africa. I didn't even know where South Africa was. If you would have >> So, until you went to Eritrol at 19 years old, you never traveled out of the country. >> I never traveled. >> So, where'd you go? You got family never went to Israel. Never went to California, Florida. >> When I was 17 to Israel with my grandparents for like a week and we like never left like the old city and and and the shook >> as someone who grew up in Flappish and I grew up in Flappish actually as well. Clap clap you not. and we're kabad. What is the before? You know, I grew up in a very yeshivish block like H&H like Mir and borderline Kensington like >> Avenue H. >> I didn't know about the fancy 20s and you know that >> wasn't around back then. >> The 20s. >> It was just starting. >> The teens was No, >> the teens. >> The teens. I'm sorry. The 20. >> What's the >> What's the Kabad? I don't know 40 years ago versus the litfish the lit of kabad 40 years ago verse litfishabad view today has it changed has it not changing what did what didn't change >> let's be real when you were growing up in bar park in this terrade what was the opinion of kabad and the rebabad strafe >> wow you never came for dollars >> never it was unheard of they would you see a kabad guy kabadsker that was the >> they let them speak in your sho when you were growing up >> never never so >> it's a completely different world now so what was what happened I first of all people started to use kabad because they were traveling and you were going to middle of nowhere and what can you get in the middle of nowhere we we just people started to have more money they start to travel going to Florida, going to all these places. Kabad was much more pronounced in Florida than it was in Flapush where I grew up in my uh Dalamas. There was there was no Kabad >> quite quite a few kabad rabbis now in Flapush. >> Now it's it's like really uh there's a bunch of them, you know, in my neighborhood alone. I live in in the 30s. There's two Kabad rabbis and then there's Rabbi Vigler has a shul and and there's uh I think Rabbi Roak is a little bit on the you know borderline Kabad his wife is I I know she is >> drizzen where did become the rabbi >> in Avenue no for me personally gam kabad in a very yeshivish block when they grew up with them they sort of knew I was normal but then suddenly got old like oh my revi said kaban's this kaban's that what about this whatever that I was I was heavily questions and question and analyze cuz it's hard to not like someone that you know too well. It's easy like that guy and that you know but when you know the guy and you play basketball on the block you can't re it's you know it gets very confusing for the for the kids at my age growing up in Flapish but I knew there was this there was this unspoken animosity I don't know where it is you're crazy you're weird you're out of the box this is premish era you know what I'm saying >> so I would say that the the when I grew up how I understood it is that uh This is a very uh like you know when I asked the rebi years ago I got to be maybe I was eight nine years old they told me they take these boys who are great minds and they take them away from yeshiva and they send them to Dutill in the middle of time square that was the line that I got and that was I think it was in the subconscious of people they they saw that as an issue I don't know if that mindset exists today as it did then. >> And then what about the Mish the Messiah? Uh how did that play a role today? I mean because it's you know >> today is it it's something that I remember first of all I remember when the Reb was nifa I was there. I remember the funeral I remember see >> I did not go my father went. >> Um >> and your father never went to the Reb before that. No, but he felt that he was a he w my father never spoke about him. But my father, I think, felt that he was a that he was a special person. As my father once told me years ago, the man never took a vacation. Every Reb travels to wherever Switzerland's >> Palm Springs fly private jet. The man never took a vacation. The guy left Brooklyn besides going to to the to the to the cemetery to his father-in-law. He left Brooklyn I think three times >> in 50 years. He was there every day. And my father said, "Man, dedication can't be beat." >> Kabad today. >> That's what my father My father said to me when 1994. That's what he told me. can't man because every other leader takes a week off to go to you said Palm Springs private jets. >> It's a lot longer. It's a lot longer than one week. >> Six I would say six weeks but you're being okay. We'll give them a week in the Palm Springs with the private jet or Florida or you know it's cold you know uh a break you know slow time uh visit you he the man that's was my father's message. A there was a video going around last summer. This like 70-year-old guy in bar park in a hot August day. It's like 108 degrees schmvitzing putting his stuff into the bicycle wagon. There's like a wagon in front of his bike. He said all the debas are going to come back from it and swan and from the mountains and they're going to say and they're going to they're going to give usme suffering a whole summer in Brooklyn. They're going to give us about doing chuba soon. Says you guys are on vacation having a good time. Be nice to us. be nice to us. So you see currently today litfish let's say liquid what percent is still does not love the kabad what what what's your guesstimate because I know >> first of all the this is an an opinion that's held by people who are much older and were around saying the animosity >> the animosity dies because the these are political issues and and arguments that are going back into the 60s and the 50s and how many people really understand them I don't even understand a lot of it I understand a little bit of it, you know, with Shak and all that. Those arguments I understand a little bit, but this is going back to the 1970s, 50 years ago. Today, Kabad is so intertwined in our culture. First of all, if a guy lives in Flapish, the first place he's going is where am I going to a restaurant? I'm going to the Cran Heights. And it it became also I think uh there's a lot of people have told me they've gone to the oil and seen tremendous schoolers. My wife during a lot of times has always asked to go. I've gone matzah shabas many times and every time I go on matzah shabas sometimes 11 12 o'clock at night and I'm always shocked to see sometimes I could see 50 80 people from like but not just 80 people like okay I was expecting 20 20 kabadkas and and 20 not religious right I'm talking about I'm talking about I've seen yeshivish I've seen completely secular completely uh not religious And I've seen very firm people and I've seen a very wide gamut. So people have come they've they found connection to it and I personally have have you have enjoyed Kabad's hospitality in many places and I've never had a anti-abad feeling. I didn't grow up on it. My parents never spoke about it. As I said, the message that resonated to me was in 1994 was a man never took a vacation in 50 years. Imagine every single day this was there. You wanted to see him. You knew where to find him. You made an appointment. Men never took a day off. Think >> it's very interesting. There's a very wealthy guy from the Midwest. I'm gonna say his name in his town. He's officially anti-abad. when he goes to his his villa in the Caribbean, the Kabad rabbi is the official vacation planner, gets him a minion, everything. >> Okay. >> And this same guy, this liter uh wealthy, well known on every board on the planet when he comes to the Caribbean, he fully ser not by his fundraising ky whatever rashiva, you know, fundraiser, but it's fully serviced. It's just very funny. So I think in general I always see that people on vacation are more open and it's two different things and uh you know and it's interesting to see people open up their minds. Do you think people like Wii Jacobson Shalom Matashkin Chase Tab do you think they help bridge the gap between Kabad and even these singers like Aban Freed Benny Freeden Ellie Marcus normalize Kabad to some degree with social media? >> They make Kabad cool. They not only make kabat cool, but they've bridged the gap. One thing about uh about a lot of these speakers is they know how to connect nonabatarim. They always bring it up. It's like they go many different he's very diverse. >> They make it entertaining. >> They why is very entertaining. I personally I like his brother. I think he has >> sim or bur >> simmon. He has very deep content and very I enjoy him. He's very good, but he's completely different style than Y. He's very different. I don't think he opens every Thor story with 10 jokes about the sat and this and that and and all that, but he does he always has the joke, you know, uh that uh that what does why always have a joke? He always has a good joke about the you know about the old Jew and the jeul and you know all these things that people can relate to and it brings down connects people. I just want to focus as someone grew up in Flappish seeing how the big gap of and especially was you know you've seen you always but litish and kabad was like the most you know orthodox whatever the litish kabad and I would say the most per the person that made the gap the most who made impact who was validated so to say was y jacobson rabbi y jacobson just like you know the fundraiser I and tells in Cleveland brought him as a speaker the good convention or CMH >> I think he was in that good convention >> yeah so and he he had a prestigious position like that's how much it came so I really see y as you know as as the biggest person that was able to go across aisle or normalize kabad what do you think about that >> there is something to that I think y why Jacobson has a a unique ability because he brings many other swarm he's always quotes the he quotes otherwar >> quotes firms still >> yeah he quotes but he he knows how he also I think he's very aware of which audience he speaks to and how to speak to them and that's a talent within itself speaking of people who bridge the gaps I've never seen someone like Louis Shiner besides his financial success bring all these different you go to his shaw and he has a kabad rabbi shiner shaw for forche road >> forch he's such a crazy >> intense >> mix of people I mean I I think it obviously comes from his his influence but his nambra is just so open and he brings so many different people rabbi so many different walks of life and he normalizes everything >> well I I think I think he's bringing the message that we're all one nation we're being persecuted and the anti-semitism no one says say says oh he's kabad and he's sat we'll leave him alone and we'll leave the bells, the guy will only attack the litfac. It doesn't work like that. And I think we see it in that time period in our time period right now. That that that makes uh unity together. And I think that helps. I also you know the concept of minion factories is not a literature thing. It it is completely and the fact that you go to a place that you could grab a grab a m at any time has changed the lit literature perspective used to be you had a shuling was 6:15 mil was whatever time 15 minutes before there was a at 8:15 and the commercial from the rabbi that was it today we've become a culture we're always on the go people are running and you depend hand on having a minion in a in a place and to find a minion if in my I think you go into shul it's unbelievable what he's done the that he has but the fact is that you could get a minion at any time of day I'm talking about you could sh 15 minutes later go to the next and probably if you wait an hour he could hit the plate very nice I want to I want to use you as the litmus test how affected or how personally affected did you feel when Charlie Kirk was assassinated did. >> I felt very like like I I couldn't believe it when I heard about it. I didn't believe I thought it was like a little bit of a scam. >> But when you realized that he's not with >> he's not with us. He was a a very very good speaker about Israel. He was a a messenger. And the fact that he had the courage to go to these places is an unbelievable thing. >> Stood on campus with the table. Go on campus. >> Got a table on campus. >> You think he's kabad? >> He must be. >> Hey everybody, we want to welcome a new corporate sponsor to the Clappy and Frank show. My good friend, the friend of all of us, has an amazing armed guard security company. These are not guys that stand around eating, eating and drinking and smoking. These are top top trained professional armed guards to do all your corporate events, your Scholes, yeshivas, mistas. He services New York, Long Island. He has tons of happy clients I interviewed. Call my friend Yesell friend at 3479399284. We're going to link his page with all the information. Great rates. Jump is coming up. Sh services corporate event. You want top security at your events? Is this friend is your friend? I just I want to say a few stories that I still see today where the litad as as close as it came and validation and recognition. I just want to say a few things. I recently went on a vacation. I went somewhere and the kabad rabbi told me this particular city it's like a very yeshiva there. He told me he will not give aliyah to any kabad guy unless it's me because he knows me you know he knows I'm not a picar so he gives me he says other kabad guy will never ever get aliyah. Second story, this is all when this happened mamish summer. Second thing, I was once in an art show in a hotel and Benny Freedom was there and Benny's like, "By the way, Mishi, um, you're not in friendly territory." I like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Friday night the caterer put out some wine and the rasha ordered all the to be removed from the tables completely." some Russas, >> some Russas, you know. >> So, I know there's >> I want to say something about >> Pas and if you could >> as much as things got a lot better, I know these two are two recent stories that are very real. I'm going to say this about Kasherus that without in far-flung countries the uh products that are available to the Jewish population would not be on in the market. So if the rash knew all the stuff he had there were >> no one knows because no one understands it but if you ask anybody in the OU they'll tell you that the people who are the yots of all these factories are 90% of them and and a lot of people are out of town who are out of town a lot of their panosa comes from being a mashiach in factories that no one would ever go to. We're talking about going into Thailand and all these places and during China was closed. We're not talking about products and when when China was closed during CO the were the only people who were in there going in there to turn on the ovens or or change the temperatures or run the clean cycle in these factories. Who who was doing that? >> We we still got stuck in 2001. You were in Aritus and 911 happened. We're going back and you felt and you felt safer being an air. >> You want to talk about the lit command thing or it's not so interesting for you? >> It's not interesting or not interesting. I thought that boat sailed a while ago. I didn't it didn't come up. >> So that's why that's why I wanted to bring up because of recent developments >> because because one guy was a hater so he wanted to like probably didn't like the taste of that wine. >> There's always going to be one or two out there. That that's a fact. What do you think about what people think about the kabad people sing and all and the rebas you know all those that that topic how do they feel about >> it's been a sore subject that will never ever that's never going to die and I think >> it's never going to die right >> that that that's always a sore subject and and the ones who who who go out there and and are out there and all the singers or you'll never hear that song in any wedding. It's not good for business. It's not good for for for time. It's not good for anything. It's controversial. It's it's always going to be a sore subject. But I think the the bridge is >> I'm sorry we're throwing these. You're the first lit in our show. So, we're just, you know, >> he's taking one for the team. >> I'm taking I'm taking >> And you're not a rabbi, so you could see that. >> I'm not a rabbi. I can get away with anything. Did you have Did you Did people mention it to you? Did you have guilt that we all took Charlie Kirk's death so so to heart and people were saying that two days before six people were killed in the bus in the in the Jerusalem bus junction and there wasn't such a big outcry like we had for Charlie like everybody's been sh every single shul they were talking about it why were we all going so wild and so depressed that Charlie was killed but 48 hours before six yidden were killed in a terrorist attack in Jerusalem and it didn't get enough media attention or we weren't so siss about it and there was so many different opinions about But I'm wondering what what was the opinion and what do you feel and what what >> I felt that the minute Israel attacked Qatar and tried to take out those terrorists like we forgot about those six people. I literally when I heard the story of the six people I was I was in tears when I woke up in the morning. I couldn't believe it because I know exactly where that place is. I was watching on camera. I know exactly you know the videos of it. There was this video with the guy at the taxi was helping the old woman. Yeah. >> And a bullet went right over his head. You saw that video. >> Heard about it. >> It was like I was like shaken by it. >> I think we we just we live in a society that we're we're so you know they say in Yiddish what's good by the gun eventually gets into the Jewish culture. So he was such the media took it so hard especially the right wing and most a lot of the front people are very dependent on all the podcasts from the right on the right side you know I I don't know a guy in my shoe who's not listening to uh um Charlie Ben Shapiro and uh what's the the woman uh I forgot her name uh >> well she the blonde one >> the blonde uh >> me Kelly, Megan Kelly, you know, I don't think anybody >> used to be used to be Candace >> Tucker also, but uh my cousin every night Tucker was >> another like Trump would say another beauty. >> Another beauty. So, we're so integrated by him and he was so out there and he always spoke about Israel. We have this connection to him and the fact is that he was killed. He's young, 31 years old. He he has a family, a young wife. It's a very big it's a very big tragedy. He was forgiving his opinion on something that most people agree with him especially in the Orthodox community. Most people agreed with him and and sided with him. They felt it was a big blow. So that's why I think it just it just we also also terrorist attack in Israel. It's unfortunately >> it's almost like you're immune to it. >> We're a little bit immune to it. It's been going around since, you know, October 7th. When October 7th happened, >> October 7th, when I was a kid in the 93, 94, they were blowing up buses. I mean, what? >> I was I when I first got to Israel, there was a I was there when Sabaros happened. I was a few blocks away and I had just got to Israel and I fell to the floor. I was six blocks away. I was on King George Street and Raov Ben Mman, not Ben Mman. Um, Ben Yehuda. >> What were you doing there? >> I was going to get food. What else? And And I And that's two blocks away. And I was >> Were you consulting without food then? >> No, I was just looking for food. >> I had my measly to be $20. >> To be a consultant, you have to first taste all the goods. >> Yes. So I had to learn about also when I got to Israel. >> Let me ask you a question. There's a It says in the Kish that when you're when you're working with food, you're allowed to eat the food. So you're not allowed to tell the workers or whatever. >> Picking fruit. >> Yeah. Picking fruit. When you deliver the food all day, do you taste? >> I never I never taste the food that I'm delivering. I'm always looking or I'm or I'm dealing with any food that I'm involved in. I'm always looking for the other what's by the other guy. >> So you do trades. So you're delivering a few hundred apple strudles and a few eccl Noair ever goes missing. >> No egg. >> You could say under oath. No eclair ever went missing. >> I don't I don't know about that. >> I don't know about that. >> I'm always looking I'm always looking for the new item and what's doing by someone else. I've never my own my own I know already. I'm looking for new items. I constantly I'll go into cater. I'll sit down with them. They telling me I just came up with this new idea. Oh, I'll take let me taste it. I always like to see something new, something different. I'm willing to try almost anything. Some things are, you know, not my taste. >> You eat pa. >> I have every shop is >> one thing I I tasted every single kosher food in the world as one thing I never had the guts to taste. Does it taste? >> I was in a customer's house last Thursday night. He asked me if I want to taste pchai. I just I gagged. I wanted to throw up. >> Delicious. Hearing the word pacha. >> Delicious. I have a neighbor who calls me up when his father-in-law makes it. We could knock out a whole thin pan. >> So after Yeshiva there 911 then. >> So I was there again after I came back here to America. I worked a couple of odd jobs. I I >> used to be a store. Odd Job. >> What? >> Remember Odd Job? >> Yeah. >> What happened? Amazing Savings Cousins. What was it? >> Yeah. Amazing Savings. There's also Jean Sons. Remember Ganric Jean. >> Do you trick the best? >> That's where I got That's where I got my school supplies. >> That's where I got Mechanica gifts. I remember such good memories upstairs. They had a Game Boy Display. You >> to buy Toro cards. Toro cards. >> Toro cards. >> Shampoo for camp. It was It was a big thing there. >> Jean Sons. >> Jean. Wow. That's where we used to get the luggage and all that kind of stuff. >> Got my sister's dollhouse when she turned five. It was a big thing. Jean Sons. >> Jean Sons. Uh, but after when I got back from Israel, I was here in America for about two or three years. I worked a bunch of odd jobs. I tried yeshiva in the morning. I did some college courses. I didn't have what I wanted to do at the time. And then I, you know, people were pressuring me. So I took a job that and I was miserable there. >> Doing what? >> I worked in electronic company. I worked there in electronics store on the low side. Remember the low side? >> My grandfather had a huge store on the lower side an hour and broom. >> So I was on Essex and I think uh Hester >> could be. >> Okay. If I remember it's a long time ago. Remember the there was a pickle guy. >> Goss. Yeah. I was getting pickles. I I became friendly with him and I bought him coffee. I used to get unlimited pickles >> for $1 coffee. You could get unlimited pickles. >> Oh, a business. >> Bring him a coffee in the morning. I used to get myself a coffee. I used to bring him a coffee. >> So, you're always around Fujetti. >> Yes. I I grew up >> electronic store in the lower side. And then >> and then once I got I I was there for a while. I happened to have left because I just had enough. And I was looking for something. I started to help a friend of mine who had a jewelry company and we were making some deals and I was >> deals on 47th Street. >> No, we were selling watches. >> What type of watches? >> So that that was that we he was selling high-end watches. >> Rolex Pate Phips. >> No, not that high. A little bit lower. >> Raymond. >> No. Bam. Masier. >> Basine. He had a deal on them. he could get he and he would he would get built in I think a commission was if we would push these design these toanim that were getting married. So I was in yeshiva like half a day and I would push all the to go to the guy and every time I would get I would get a commission off the guy who pushed for these watches and he had a he had some sort of deal with that and uh ebel was the companies he was pushing. So I was doing that and then I went on vacation to Israel and I said you know what I'm going to sit and learn for a month and I'm going to take it easy. I was dating. I stopped and then I some randomly eating by by a friend of mine for Shabas and they said, "Oh, I have this girl. She's uh American Israeli, but she's from America. Should get married to her." And I said, "You're crazy. Leave me alone." And uh I said, "I'm retired and I'm I'm content with where I am right now." And he pushed and pushed and pushed and barash we got engaged. And >> how old were you when you got when you got engaged? >> I was 25. >> 25. >> 25. Yeah. >> And she thought she thought I was 22 and she was like 19. So >> it was like we we both we knew we knew nothing about each other. And and and >> now now you do >> now. >> And you got married in Brooklyn. And you >> I got married in our show >> and then you were there for a while or >> I was there for a little bit and then we came back. We moved there. >> Yeah. Do you want your kid to drive a truck or No, >> no. >> What do you want him to do? >> I want to do something that's productive. >> Driving a truck is not productive. >> Not saying not. I just I want him to uh >> What's your dream? Your dream vision for your kids. >> I want my children that I have four children in Canada and I want them all to do something that'll bring good things to the Jewish people. whatever it is, >> truck driver can bring good. >> I'm not I'm not saying that, but uh I think I think my my children are uh not that they could do better, but I think they not not do better. I think they're I don't know if one of my sons is for sure not cut out for driving a truck. And the other one I I I think he's a little too lazy. I he likes to sleep in. And one thing about all these things, catering, you have to and and truck and all these things, you have to be up early, you have to be constantly uh >> you're on the go, >> on the go. And uh the the generation today, they're on their phones all the time. And there's and when you deal with a lot of these people, you have to be very personalized and hands-on. You have to be able to answer calls. You have to be able to talk on the phone. And you have to be able to even use uh oldfashioned and pen and paper to write down things >> and not set reminders on phones and actually be organized and uh so that that takes work that you never know maybe in future they would go to it. You never know. >> One of them is trying to get a license. We'll see. >> Yes. What's the current status relation between nonad and world? Where does it stand now? There's respect, no respect. They love hate. What's that? What's that dynamic right now? >> Well, certainly I think >> and I would say litfish to them. They don't you know >> have litfish to what's their perspective like? I know all the theidum moving into Lakewood. How do the litfish people feel about that? >> You know what? >> And what do they feel about them in general? in general there used to be a very big separation and I think now first of all in general they all work it's a misnomer to say that oh they don't work they just sit you know that's for the New York Times >> but or uh MSNBC you know the fake news >> it's not true most of them are out working and we in business and 90% of the industries are involved. So our relationship has grown as as two. There's no like separate camp. Everyone's doing business. >> What was it before and was it now? That's my question. >> It was the litfish community was a small community and and the were always separate. But now in today's world, especially I'll give you an example. If you have a kid who who needs special ed and and and and things like that, the have have made it possible for you to get all these services taken care of from start to finish. The Ezra Medical Center, all these things that are done have done it. They've worked the system better than anybody else. >> Fantastic. Compliments to LDL and all these organizations. They're doing a great job. >> Do a fantastic job. We're talking about you you you need a kid who needs speech ch a child from a small age. You call up one of these agencies. They take care of all the paperwork for you. You don't have to know nothing. Somebody shows up, they write the reports and the are running these organizations. They know how to bill it. They're great. They are they're great. >> They're great at it. And and that has integrated them into in general into society. And also when come they don't just come with 20 families and they pop in. They move in 200 families, a grocery store that's cheaper than whatever grocery store that you had before, a takeout food store, at least three restaurants, and two pizza stores. >> But Mir Yeshiva always had recently more and more and more because don't have this uh chip on their shoulder that they really want to learn, they have to go to litish and therefore Mir and has a lot of >> that that chipped because there's a different derk and limud by the litfish. you know the brisker der that's always going to be by the litfish and bakim more and more are going towards that and you know you know when I was in there were bakim in in mir there's always been there's going to be by brisk also uh still literally she was the only ones that speak yiddesh they give shir in yiddesh and that allows a to come in and and and acclimate to the yeshiva >> easy. What's the current status with Syrians in Flapush and do they what's their interaction with the general from world? >> Well, it's a funny thing about Syrians because >> they they they still stick to themselves, right? >> They still stick to themselves, but their Raim >> they think they're better. They think they're better. >> I don't know. I I don't know. I think they they they're very like if if you're a Syrian and you need to buy something, you'll only shop in a Syrian store. >> Two of my cousins married Syrians. >> Top top top families. Top s the real deal. >> The real the real deal. The real deal. No, no, no. They allowed it. >> They let intermarriage. They let they were very nice to us at the wedding at all theas. The old serious people. Yeah. >> It's funny. 30 years ago when I was a kid the you never ever saw a from yeshiva Syrian now there's communities all over in Lakewood is from Syrians a lot of them go to Ashkenazi yeshivas and a lot of them at one point >> hold on one second theim if they want to really know how to learn they have to go to the to the litish and if the Syrians want to know how to learn they have to go to the >> yeah same thing >> it's like there's like >> no it was Syrians >> Syrians don't have big Man Siri big was not like Syrian Moro Egyptian what was >> Egyptian >> Egyptian I think >> Egyptian Syrian different thing >> but they're more and more they have their own Russian >> they more by the way the all but most of the Rabonim that are the Syrian raon today the the the people who are the respected members of the community are all not educated only it's now that and all these schools are starting to grow but at one point it was very small and if >> no big wish coming out Shiva. >> No, you mean >> is the least orthodox. But if you were from and you wanted you were a Syrian, you wanted to be more on the right side. You sent to Ashkanazhas. You know, in my daughter's class, she goes to regular Bakush. We have three, four Syrian girls there. >> They end up marrying Syrian or will they marry out? >> Some will marry out. Some will marry Syrian. But when I was when I was a kid, there were at least two of the Syrian rabbi sons were in Kimbalan. They were in my grade. I was playing ball with them and uh what's his name? Rabbi Habra was a big rabbi. He learned in Stan Island. >> What's the current status of Litish people? Flatbush verse Lakewood. Is everyone moving to Lakewood? Are people staying? People going Marine Park? What's the deal? >> Well, Flatbush is is definitely slowed down. Uh the schools are having hard time. Some of them are not fielding. They used to have two classes. They shrink down to one class. >> Wow. They're downsizing. >> Yeah. Mere Mirisha went down uh to from first grade I think is only one class. For years it was two tracks. So there are there is things there are schools who are doing very well and and are doing are still doing well. >> Terodas is doing well. >> Terodas is doing well. I think the is doing well and uh that's what I hear. I hear is packed. No, wellin they're they feed their own. They encourage their their own little club. >> Yeah, >> I'm just going to call it club. >> Oh, they're rashiva as party. >> Half now quarter. >> He's half. He's a son. >> Hawa Moroccan. >> It's a huge deal. But he's half because his mother is not sorry. >> His mother's not >> right. But I'm I'm saying like like the thing is Lakewood you get you get first of all you get much more bang for your buck as they say. >> Are your neighbors all following hold let's are your neighbors and flappers all following their kids in Lakewood or like a typical family flappers now what percent of the kids are moving to Lakewood? What percent are staying in Brooklyn and what percent are the parents following their kids to Lakewood? >> Well there's a lot those three questions. >> There's a lot of people the young couples are all moving to Lakewood. That's That's clear. You get a You get a >> When we say Lakewood, we mean like Jackson, Tom's River. It's all Lakewood. Don't Don't Don't It's all Lakewood. Your Krenites is Brooklyn. So Lakewood's Lakewood. It's a neighborhood. The difference between Tom's River and Lakewood is like you cross the street, you're in Tom's River. It's not and and you cannot exist just being in the bubble in Jackson or whatever. You have to go into Lakewood. Your kids go to school in Lakewood. It's all one big >> area. You mentioned Lakewood. We said like stories of kabad the kabad in Tom's River. There's a guy who asari. >> Yeah. There's a guy who dins there. >> I heard this recently who asked is he allowed a diamond in the kabad in Tom's River? He says, "You're allowed to do when it comes to the druss or you have to walk out." So this guy I asked her, "All right, why don't you throw the guy out?" He comes this he's like, "Oh, cuz he thought like the community is going to grow quicker in that area." So he didn't realize he's going to have to rely on. He asked Russa. You could do in there. It's you have to leave for the Dash. Anyway, >> to be that that guy's a big >> Oh, you know what I'm talking? >> Yeah. He's missing out on a good No. >> Oh, you remember a big He's missing out on a good smoo. >> I thought you were going to say that he left to the Dasha to go to the Kdish Club. >> No, this guy is like a dieard cuz I I know a guy >> that's where I would be during the dr. >> I'm sorry. Back to cuz I grew up in Flappers for 28 years. So for me the whole drama and the trauma of litish kabad is like very real to me. He never heard >> trauma >> beside now clappy does so he knows he's became worldrenowned well versed in all the ask any who's a rasha in lakewood he was like he won't know he might know what lake he might not know what lakewood is and he for sure doesn't know who rash is >> I always knew this I always knew okay but most my father went my father went to marry yesa >> clappy most guys in cranets know who rash is >> I had to tell them about all the stuff going on yes or no >> I had to tell them So then none of them know. Clueless. >> Clueless. 100. >> So back to Lakewood. What percent is moving to Lakewood and what percent are following their kids and what percent are people staying? If they're the ones are leaving, who's are buying the houses? Are the Syrians buying it or other litish people buying it? >> Well, the if you put a house for sale in in our neighborhood, I think you're going to get the 20s and 30s, you're either going to get a Syrian or a Kimberliner to buy it. You're not getting a regular guy. First of all, for the money that you want, you could get a much better quality or more property. You could get a pool for the same money in Lakewood. And And let me tell you, you go to some of these houses in Lakewood, you you can't believe what you're seeing. It's like not normal. And >> it's a real house. >> No, I'm talking about massive acre and a half. >> It's an estate. It's an estate. >> Estate. The guy been to Lakewood and little here and there. Not enough. >> When was the last time you're in Lakewood? >> I went to at the Fish Grill on a wedding a few months ago, but I didn't go to somebody's house. Okay. >> Well, my father had me dropped. >> You never been to house in Lakewood. No, hold on. You never been? >> I didn't go inside, but you ever go into the house in Lakewood? >> I don't know. But I was I went to drop a package at a mega man. I went to drop a package at a mega mansion there. >> Didn't let you in. >> No, the guy wasn't there. I left it on the door. >> Okay. So, you select my point. Kabad people even clap is very worldly. He's worldrenowned. He's soon going to be the voice for Lakewood News and he's never been into the house in Lakewood. Anyway, continue the irony. >> Have you I was two nights ago I was in Lakewood for a bar mitzvah. My cousin made a bar mitzvah and I happened to be next door to the new takana hall in Lakewood and I walked in there and I was blown away how beautiful it is. People can make I know so many people are make are not making in Brooklyn. I make kas in Lakewood 15$20,000 for a wedding. It ends up eight $9,000 each side. It's unbelievable. But I'm we're talking about the nicest room. >> Is it a race to the bottom? You're in the catering industry and we're talking about the kind of weddings and the weddings are getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. I feel like we're going to have a drive by weddings. $27. >> $27 a chicken nugget. There's always going to be high-end weddings just by the fact that you have somebody who has a lot of money and they're going to make a wedding because they want to tell everybody that they have a lot of money or they want to make a wedding just because they want to make a party. And the Syrians make it always make high-end weddings. It's part of their culture. They believe in it, you know, and and and a lot of people have also that also by the yeshivish, they have bigger families and they're making eight weddings versus a guy who has three kids and lives in Englewood. He's making three weddings. So, this is the >> Is there still pressure to do Kyle Kyle in the litfish world? What's it like today? Is it like 10, 20 years ago? Has it changed now? Are you looked down upon if you're not learning? What's the current social waves and pushes? I think nowadays the culture is that most young couples who went to yeshiva even if they're in college or that they're expected at least the first year to be in colo that they believe that it cements the relationship that you know it's it's it's like looked out about that oh he went to work right away he didn't you know >> but the 5 years 10 years is is a thing how strong >> 5 10 years is still a thing but it's on a more yesish crowd and and they're still doing it and they they their goal is to get into and get into what they call clay kesh not necessarily they're not going to obviously some go into business but there is that that that pressure a guy says it's expected a year maybe two with usually even if he's going to school he's studying to be something he's studying to do this studying to be an accountant it's expected that they they're doing it plus they they've streamlined these programs, PCS. Uh, God has streamlined that you could get a degree in six uh, what is it a year, a year and a half, a year and six months, something like that with all your yeshiva credits and they streamlined that into and getting people and they get people jobs, high quality jobs. >> Is he wealthy people? What are they usually looking for or another rich family? >> Depends how wealthy you are. >> Explain. If you're if you're very wealthy, you want to marry someone who else who's very wealthy. >> You don't care about the Tomak thing. It's not a thing. >> It depends on the crowd, you know, because you could have a very sheish crowd and they want their son. >> What's considered the prize son-in-law at Kakim or another rich family >> to go on the Pesak hotel together with? >> Depends on the crowd. There's so many different crowds. I think in Lakewood the the very hardcore yeshivish crowd they want to sudden and if he has a couple dollars that's a great plus but it's not the most important thing >> but a typical flap push I don't know family what are they going for what's the prize for a wealthy family what else what do they want to bring in or another rich family >> I think they want both and if it's not you know you can't have uh it should be able to find both. >> Both. But if not, what's the priority? >> Both. >> Of course. >> And wealthy. >> That's the That's the top. You want the top? >> One more thing. No. Well, a lot. We'll see how this goes. What percent of the inapp are percentwise versus >> most of the shs in in their neighborhood areas. like 80%. >> I don't know about >> my grandfather. My grand >> 70 for sure. >> And how did that come to be if it's a lit neighborhood? >> Well, how many shores can you have in Burough Park? They all have children. What are they going to do? They got they got to get into the >> My grandfather lived on East 15th and he died by Tidal Bomb, which is a Saturn family or some >> tidle tidle ble East 13. I never understood it. It's a flappish crown. He used to be in Crown Heights years ago. He had a on uh on Sterling Street. I knew him. I knew I knew the old rabbi title. >> So he went from from Crown Heights to Flatbush. >> Well, Crown Heights was a neighborhood in the in this in the 60s and 70s, right? Bob was there. >> Everybody was there at one point. Yeah, >> at one point. Bab was there. Navam Minsk was there. All these guys. See who's doing this k of coloss which part of the litish world are opening coloss in St. Louis and Denver which part of that world >> has a little exclusively thing. >> Okay. >> But I think now the community call is a way of getting people who are in yeshiva who need to get paid and have salaries. I think lakewood caught on and all these yeshivas and communities caught on. It helps a grow a community bringing in 10 young families who will stay there. A lot of times they they have rules like we're bringing you in, we're paying you, we're giving you a helping you buy a house on the condition you're going to be here for 5 10 years and that helps grow a community. One of the easiest ways to grow a community, especially out of town, is to open a colo. That's easily 10 15 families >> because that for for us kabat people, that's our main competitors in the cur world where they plop down with >> my brother-in-law lived in Cincinnati and I've been to Cincinnati and Cincinnati was an example. I the shul the kabad and the and the and the and the and the and the rash cuddle they lived next door to each other and they their wives were best friends. It was it was an unusual thing and the rabbis got the rabbis ago rabbis got along. >> They were best friends. >> Not the rabbits the rabbis >> the rabbis got along great. In fact, the rash used to say the pavas in the kabad jeul and and you should know I my wife's grandparents live in silver spring. I've been to silver spring many times and the the the speaker on uh on Shabas afternoon. He always gave us was the rabbi of what we would say a competing. >> But yet he told me himself that when he started going to Silver Springs, his brother-in-law refused to go to the kabach. I was in the kabash. He's a top guy. >> His brother originally refused to come. I'm not going to say his name. And after a while, maybe got old and lazy cuz he told me to eat some of the kabasuals closer. He started eventually coming too. Right. True story. >> True story. >> So that this transition, >> you know why I was there? >> I was by Rabbi Vowvski in Silver Springs because Trump's first inauguration was Chavez Friday afternoon and I was not going to miss that for anything in the world. There was no way to get back to New York. So I went to Silver Springs for Chavez. Would you recommend listeners people moving to B or Kabad people moving to Baltimore? Yes or no? Why is Brooklyn better or worse? >> Baltimore is a wonderful community. Beautiful. >> Just a few shootings here and there. >> That that's true. But that's not the Jews don't live in that that part of the area. >> They say they hear the shots at night. >> That's a little bit exaggerated. >> It's also which part? >> It's which part? Baltimore. Listen, I you can buy a house for tell you to go to that that Chinese place in Baltimore. His brother chased the guy out. The guy pulled out a gun. >> Really? >> He didn't think there was a guy in the shoe. He came to steal a bush. He got so scared he chased the guy out. >> Didn't I tell you to go get that Chinese place in Baltimore? >> Why is Baltimore underrated? Overrated? Is it underrated or overrated? >> It's underrated. >> Why? >> Baltimore's got a lot to offer. It's got It's got a nice community, friendly people. It I always look down upon it as Brooklyn, Baltimore, Baltimore. >> How much How much is the house in Baltimore? Reasonable prices in mid-4s, mid fives. You get a very nice house. It's a nice community. Listen, some things are more expensive there. I'm not going to say I'm not that you need two cars. There are things, but there's some wonderful quality of life is excellent. Um, >> but the people the people there are very cheap on food. My sister has three sister-in-laws that live there, and the biggest talk on Shabas Khan there was one of the stores went up a quarter on a donut. I think it went up to like a $1.75. There was about to be a riot. $10 donuts never came to Baltimore. >> The best butcher in in the kosher world. One of the best is Lmberg. They make unbelievable stuff. It's in Baltimore. >> It's probably cheap. >> Is that the second biggest expensive? >> It is expensive. >> Is that the second biggest Lith community outside of Brooklyn, Lakewood? >> Uh, no. I think Chicago is bigger than they both they hate Kabad. There you hate I know you're SW. They hate they hate Kabad there. >> And it they hate it. I had a whole story with them. >> What do you mean? >> They had like a whole puppet show against Kabad one year. >> Yeah, but they have a they have >> they wouldn't apologize. They said that they're going to have the Russa put out an apology letter. Never happened. >> They have a lot of families. >> They guys sent me videos a few years ago. They made a whole permik, a whole mock thing about against kabad. >> And I called them up and I made them a lot of terrorists. They said they're going to put out an apology in which you called who the Russia >> I called the office and I called the principal and I called a few years ago. Big guys big guys there. >> But now you're you're doing Lakewood news clapper. You come a long way. >> No, I'm saying that that particular yeshiva needs to do a little chuva. >> I have some family in Lakewood. I once sent him some ad for one of my projects and my cousin politely did not post it cuz he was afraid. Anyway, it's yet you're the first nonabad guy on our podcast. Honor. >> So you So we're dumping everything on you. We're dumping all on you. >> Honored to be here. >> I happen to just throw Baltimore one thing. They have a nice community. It's a very it it listen getting jobs may be a little bit difficult. There is there is a lot of help there, but it definitely has its mileas. And first of all, it's you know close enough that it's not far. So in closing thoughts, >> right? Um, you still didn't tell us what do you want your kids to be? You didn't give me your final answer. >> I always say not a truck driver. >> Whatever they want to do, I want them to want to do it. I want them to do it. I want them to to do it in the right honest way, sincerely with honest and put in effort and do what it is to do good for someone. I don't want them to be, you know, just sitting around uh uh YouTube surfing and Netflix. I want them to be accomplishing. >> Unless they're watching our show, then they can stay on YouTube all day. >> After after that's at night when, you know, at the end of the day, >> follow Yity Yitz food on Instagram. Soon more follow, subscribe to Clappy and Frank. This is our fifth episode. Can't believe it. Y >> Yeah, fifth episode. >> It's insane. I thought this would just warming up. Warming up. Give me these new names. I thought this would last maybe one or two. >> Just getting started. >> I told Zev Brener, I said, "Zev, you know where this I don't number." 90% of podcasts don't get more than 20 listens. And Barack Hashem, thanks to the great support of our our followers and CO, I want to do a shout out to C. >> C's been a great help. Crown Heights Butcher has been a great help. >> Posted our our episode twice already. our friend friend from security >> friend corporate sponsor >> and many more coming fresh fizz our newest sponsor >> all thank you all for your support subscribe like now so we could actually start making money so far we're just in the in the minus so please help us and uh I want to thank my brother Manakim who's behind the cameras producing tonight's show he did such a great job earlier this week with one of my newer channels so I said we have to bring him into the studio Thank you to Greg, our engineer. We do miss I don't know if we miss Arthur. We'll see a little bit. >> We prefer I think we prefer Greg. He's younger. >> Yeah, >> he looks more like he's earning his money. >> New energy. >> New young energy. >> And thank you for show. And last but not least, our great guest Zit Levitz um for coming on to our pod. Our first shaved our shave our first shaved litak. >> You know, it's good. We made a little diversity. You know, people thought it was just a Kabad podcast. I was getting nervous. Initially, I wasn't sure if the podcast would be Jewish altogether. It happens to be that the podcast evolved into what is the Kabad voice on the current events. >> We're going to have everybody on the show >> and so YT is our first lit. So, you know, >> honored to be here. >> Hopefully, you made you lit look good with Yity. If not, I'm sorry. I do hear he's pretty popular and flappish. So, >> we'll see how many views he brings in. >> Well, we'll Y how many views you predicting? >> I predictions is not a good game to be in. >> And I hope your wife hopefully your wife will let you back in the house after this. >> He didn't say a word. He didn't say a word about her. >> About that's a good thing, right? >> My wife is Azer connectto. You know what that means? She's Asa Kto. She's the most important part. >> Without her, >> nothing happens. >> Thank you so much, Yity, our truck driver, food specialist, Yitz food on Instagram. Thank you all for listening, supporting. I just want to say on behalf of me and Clappy, the support and views we're getting is unheard of. We're shocked. Are we shocked, Clappy? >> We're very, very humbled. >> Humbled how well we're being received. I mean, podcast is a commitment. >> If one more person asks to take a selfie with me, >> I I'm not getting the selfie action. I am a little jealous, but hopefully things will come around. >> Is what it is. But uh >> maybe he's better looking >> clearly and better and well more well spoken >> 100%. >> Thank you so much for listening and following and supporting Clappy and Frank. If you want to sponsor our podcast, please send us a message >> uh on YouTube or what >> your comment whatever >> comment something private message us. We need your support. We love your support and thank you so much for your feedback seeing people on the street. You know what I just want to say? My Instagram Baram gets 10 to 40 million views a month. X everyday people. I here and there I get comments. This podcast is only getting four to 7,000 views so far. I'm getting crazy comments. So for some reason the podcast has like a deeper >> the deeper meaning. The thing is people are spending a few hours watching our podcast and every day people getting rational is an hour and 40 minutes. >> I know. I don't know why they're listening so much. >> They love it. >> So it's a much deeper >> once you pop you can't stop. happen. It's like a Pringle. >> And I want to thank Clappy for pushing this podcast. It would not happen if not for him. So, I want to thank you all. And please, when you see me, please ask for a selfie. I'm getting jealous.