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positivity
and
we spoke already a while ago and then
recently it surfaced a new video
mentioned uh
and um moderated by uh Tritel
Tritel
And I said, "Okay,
figured maybe you're not the most
popular person out there, but I'm sure
many people know you and I'm sure that
relationships
is
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2025, but not too many people are
willing to share. you know episode
because
again I think it's going to do well but
I'm just saying meaning as like
popular
views are the sponsors whatever bution
so
um I'll start with the beginning how did
you get into helping excuse me people
and tell me what you do now like
So yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. Thank you so
much.
And
>> thank you.
>> I appreciate it. I want to thank you
and the panel
moderated byel and panel basically.
>> Yeah. and
the original meaning.
>> Okay.
Okay. So in the panel,
right?
>> Yeah.
>> So
involved in marriage counseling. So
couples
enhance relationship
We have a lot of success
>> in this area.
health and kinder emotional issues
and
problem.
What's behind it? What's what's the
underlying issue?
private
difficulty in relationship
and usually
99%
marriage relationship
meaning
problems problems exception
emotional issue
I can feel insecure.
Usually
marriage
officially health relationships.
>> Wow. and is basically
couples
relationship was it's hard to understand
why it happened. It shouldn't happen in
the first place.
>> Yeah.
So
organization was asked was helped
parents helped you gave him guidance how
to do in a proper way.
>> Right.
Beautiful. Impressive. I love the how
you came around that this is Zion.
Um
I'm going to be humble but also say that
one of the reasons why people like me is
they often say
they say you have either the same amount
or more knowledge than the person you're
interviewing and I'm very very proud of
that like
I I believe I am a smart person but more
than that is
I always say and I'm willing to learn
every day
and I just want to learn and so
just to get the knowledge and
perspective I I'll read a book even or
listen to even that I don't agree on
because I want perspective and when I
started reading about books about life
or about relationships and marriage
like it was eye opening like
but like I was like wow
people do these things. So was
successful relationship was relationship
I was very very amazed and I think
mentioned
crisis I always used to say a
selfawareness crisis my status followers
vice a lot of the podcast listeners know
this
self-awareness crisis and the results
show the facts show in mention the 27 28
or the 30 that's the average people are
getting married in
the numbers and you can attest to that
that the
are usually the ones who are having I
think better relationships
friends like my friend circle the ones
getting married a little bit later even
for the second time are more successful
than the ones who got married 18 19 20
without any experience or knowledge and
they just didn't know they were just
stumbling so my point that I'm trying to
make is that I noticed that information
is so important. Studying
okay and I can do this. No, that's not
being smart business. I learned it for
myself. I think the number one reason
for successful my company
media clients and just business doing
close to a million dollars in revenue
like it's is because what else can I
learn?
when I take on a new client in an
industry that I've never done. This is
my first time doing this. Just being
very humble and real applied to
relationships
that you can learn for parents
experience. But how do you know for your
kid what's best?
>> Right. Right. Absolutely. Do you see
that to be a trend viment mentioned with
the dealith su and the chairs couples
mention parents that they just have a
lack of knowledge?
So it's a good question.
Right.
Albert Einstein's the definition of
stupidity is doing the same thing over
and over and respect and expecting
different results.
>> Right. Right.
>> So yeah
focused of marriage like
relationship
successful. So I'm not sure about it. So
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Yeah.
>> Um I strongly believe as
successful meaning I myself
successful marriages community
>> and I do so so this is my point. My
point is
smart and the educated
um is the the chance
is huge.
>> Mhm.
>> Right.
Right.
>> But I personally don't believe us.
Correct. Because you grow together
basically
>> grow together. So again
meaning
Right.
So
like how about
like think about it. It's not only
financially like
what are you talking about like
yeah 100%
at least
We have to think about it, right?
>> So
relationships
especially
in the community
you don't see anything else.
like
what are we doing? Beautiful, beautiful,
but what are we doing here?
>> Yeah.
>> So,
I love it. They said literally
recently he said
I love what you just said
the leap shaft often meaning
which I believe that that's okay but at
least when the skin
clear
that maybe you haven't seen this between
your own parents, but you should know
that deep inside we if they do, we do
love each other. We do we do have a
great relationship. Understand
what marriage is about?
For some because it's real, for some
because they're just trying to hide and
protect. Um, how does a
how should a parent act
um with their spouse around their kids?
What's the at least to boundary that you
think is normal?
What should be that what's the boundary?
and and
what should be the boundary that will
still give their kid a healthy
perspective but not overexpose them or
not or not be out of
allowed
>> right so
a challenging question but I don't think
it's challenging because I believe
I'm not sure Right. Right.
Correct.
Like it's not like you see it in a
second. Yeah. You
>> see it, you feel it. And and personally
like I I think
meaning
you don't have to explain them shaft you
don't have to I think automatically they
look forward for it
>> yet and the opposite is also true
meaning
like it doesn't work for him
>> so it's also important to communicate
with the kids It's totally okay.
Wow.
>> Wow. Wow.
>> Right.
Yeah.
And so
bedroom and this can't feel by the
relationship relationship
>> respect
>> and and and talk about it because if you
don't talk about it
like 2025
opinion,
>> right?
It's very tragic.
Right. Right.
>> So, it's very sad again.
Yeah.
Right.
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Wow.
Yet the fact
I feel really bad for you. Right.
>> Yeah.
subject. I feel like trauma is sometimes
a word that is thrown around. Um, but
trauma and
a disregulated nervous system meaning
at peace and there was nothing really I
could do about it. I can survive but I
couldn't live. I couldn't I really
couldn't thrive like a bad
trauma
good or bad
um
and then they live with that. So for
example
at a young age he the kid could be
literally a little baby or two three
years old and
relationships are not good
story
for the parents
You know this is the
is that the response system is yet
disrespect.
disrespect
then that's their natural instinct
was just act is is
meaning
to shrine and attack
they don't want to look guilty they
don't want to look bad so they can
sometimes Pretend as if as if
toxicity
whatever
like
>> right
>> not only you're doing something wrong
but you're also pretending that they
says okay the question is I I touched on
a But do you see that that many people
that come in here is their taka filled
with trauma with which if they would
have been aware and masber concept and
that that dictates the way they are and
the way they have a relationship in the
future would it be better for them?
>> Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot what you're
bringing up. So touching the point
um
personality mentally whatever
protect
physically whatever
protect
This is relationship relationship.
So
the advice in public, but I want you to
think about it.
Responsibility
is wrong.
Right.
>> Right.
Right.
>> Right. Meaning as human beings, right?
Massive mistake.
>> Wow. This is not okay.
>> Wow.
>> Right.
The it's very healthy
as relationship is pleasant.
Relationship is good. Relationship is
>> disrespect.
This is not okay.
disorder mental issue whatever it is but
it's very important
young age
for the protecting the spouse okay
and again respectful
is wrong
>> right right
back to your question
what was
>> think trauma do people do you see acting
out of trauma I'm sure the answer is yes
but the question is and problems
generate from problems it's not
I I what I see in the last 11 years
>> most marriages
engaged oh wow
>> most marriages
the first place so
I don't know if you want to go there
because
>> so we can go into it if you want but but
I strongly believe that
professionals. Yeah. But they believe
was the cause from the problem.
It doesn't make sense why it happened.
>> Correct.
>> And and that's why I'm so passionate
like preventing struggle.
knowledge
you can do so much.
>> Right. Right.
>> So, so the of course is always there.
I am actually the best relationships
commitment.
>> So, so
meaning
the best marriages
actually
terrible terrible experiences at home.
>> Wow.
>> I'm not going to do this.
But I'm not going to make this mistake.
But
you have to heal it. But actually a
chance the best plots,
>> right? Wow. I didn't even think about
that. Uh but I definitely do agree. um
seeing for myself
in regards to money or relationships
that just pushed me to be even better
like you know okay
you know like how how can I be more
successful how can I provide more and
better to my own uh family
um
mentioned the the idea and that people
sometimes come
But the topic of delaying having a child
in the first six months of a
relationship, is that something that you
recommend?
perspective of this, you know, it's a
little bit of a controversial topic, but
it sounds like there is a
response of them is different. I don't
know, but I'm curious to hear your
opinion.
>> Yeah, it is controversial, but I do want
to talk about it because
>> Exactly. Right. Especially those kids.
>> Yeah. So
changes any story
it's confidential but
the engagement
So the reason
I think it's very important
it's about the awareness
>> but what I do want to say is when any
concern like this
guidance
then be careful.
>> Correct. Yeah. Because because it's very
like
Right.
Don't take any action.
That's number one. Yeah.
any concern,
any red flag,
put put it on hold
control, right?
>> Because
it's over. Fine.
You can move on.
>> Correct.
>> Is get a scam? Like there's no such a
thing like you're you're you're
basically connected forever. You're
always going to have to
>> co-arent
life because it's not comfortable like
if the if the the kids are absolutely
yes happy
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but
>> be careful basically saying
>> must be careful of course
I'm not going to
for them. I think
red flag and and there's no reason to
think. Yeah. I think I think what you
need to do as a parent is open
relationship.
I mean it's up to you right that's mine
>> basically I thinkion
which shows that there is a shift in the
and and that right now
says okay if you want to delay it if you
don't want to have a child nine months
after getting married because in some
sense to them it also makes sense that
because you shouldn't be messing up a
child's life
>> right it's not only messing up a child's
life Right.
It's very hard to get close to each
other especially in like
right so yeah but but again
any red flag right
it's control right beautifully said
thank you um
is the process when it comes to dating
how do we approach that because
He was saying again
and he was saying you know
you know
but
maybe yes go out in a dining room how
it's going to be for you your life
outside of a dining room like and that's
what they say dating the idea
You get to see
are they respectful? How do they treat
others?
Like so many things. Do they give a tip?
Are they nice to the waiter? Are they
nice to others?
The response. There's so much more you
can see when you're out there. So
dates
restaurant
the
hotel.
You sit in the hotel for 10.
We deise the parents
and whatever. But my question is what is
the right amount of dating? What is the
right approach to dating
specifically?
I get the messages from the hotline
voicemails and thank you
and
they're about to enter dating. What's
the right approach to dating? And the
controversial part today question is
that
but barely you have people especially in
the community.
Okay.
The approach and that's what why is so
helpful but
they didn't sign up yet. What do you
think is the right approach to dating or
maybe is just different for everybody?
>> Right. So, so is dating dating show I
mean whatever it's it's complicated
is the process of getting to know each
other in either way.
>> Very good. Very good. Because I I am
dealing a lot with with like dating
coach for second marriage meaning
mention was in community second marriage
date. Right. Right.
>> First marriage show second marriage
dating.
Yeah. Right. So, so I am a dating coach
for for second marriage for for whatever
singles, divorce people. So,
but but what's the proper amount? So,
the real answer before explaining it is
there's no answer.
>> I mean, the real answer is that there's
no rule to it.
>> Yeah. Like you talk about relationship,
you talk about life, there's no numbers,
there's no like
the point is you have to feel
comfortable and lectures it's not an
option
100% convinced
99%. So of course 100%
we all know that and mistakes massive
mistakes but
100%
to have the
matter.
It doesn't matter what you're doing, but
sign an agreement for life.
100% convinced that this is the right
agreement. So
there's no
webinar
question
was it the right amount one or two or
unlimited? So
one or two? Okay. So
I want to ask you a question.
She has a very good time.
100% comfortable.
I will get to know him more and I will
get more comfortable. In question of the
webinar, what would you say? Would you
say it's over or would you say of course
go out again? So Alam Gford go out again
and okay
I think
but I'm not 100%
but
so what do you think we should do?
Of course.
Right. So my point is
yeah
>> but I don't believe in numbers. I
believe
of relationship
we're not talking about numbers here.
two complications in the families
whatever.
Wow. What do you mean?
Why? Because
answer your question. I don't believe in
numbers and has mentioned especially in
the community
mention can feel uncomfortable will be
dating. So again I don't system is
actually system
it's very good if I mention this right
it's successful but
serious decision
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100% convinced as I want to do this
>> wow yeah and that
If I understand correctly what you're
saying is
you're sensitive. You're not ignorant.
The limits of of
likes of the limits of visa is
automatically
openminded and let's say even you know
that they have access or or a smartphone
something like that. Maybe tell them
if they maybe for some kids maybe it's
traumatizing that they go out on a on a
date the first time, right? So keep them
in the in the living room and and have
them feel safe. But if you are here to
understand your child,
>> then
>> there's so much more that you can
accomplish because and they trust you.
They'll share with you. They they'll
give you the real feedback. And if I'm
not mistaken, I think parents are very
very open-minded in today's days.
So while they are from a different
generation in the generations
from generation Z to X the
generation and it's true I I see it
clearly
um but understanding is automatically do
the flexibility and the comfortability
um
for a second is this a free website is
Uh does it cost money? Is it courses?
>> Is basically courses mean for now like
but courses it does cost money.
>> Okay. meaning the quarters courses which
is available online available on
telephone
>> and courses stepbystep guidance
how to go about it like
>> okay so the website is.comcourses.com
is the website
>> so kev
kh a r i mcourses
um.com and the phone number.
Okay.
So
yeah,
they never get a chance to to call.
>> Yeah.
My next question 718400
>> 7732.
So shoot them courses is k e s h a r i m
c o u r ses.com
and the phone number is 7184007732.
>> Okay. Thank you. Okay,
please.
>> Sure.
Okay. So, my next question.
Thank you. Thank you. Same here. Yeah.
Thank you.
Overall general questions
and
how do they know that they is my spouse
and the day is my spouse and
um if you can just throw out the
knowledge whatever comes to mind and
second of all how do you actually keep a
good shias or how do you elevate it from
where it is right now
>> rightas
showasis
Right. So I believe
so
well I I think it's it's very different.
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So in the show the main focus
is actually
how to ask information.
>> Oh wow. Okay.
>> So because I believe
and do the proper way.
It's fascinating because most people
think
mention
like no one wants to talk bad like kind
of negative.
Yeah. So actually um a kind of a trick
like
real information.
So so the the process from the show is
the one
in the process.
Wow.
>> Like you you're going to be the oneision
totally fine.
I'm not okay with it. I'm totally okay.
But
comfortable.
>> Yeah. Right. So
feel uncomfortable
like simple and
red flags
questions
the basics
Get again
comfortable.
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formed
different situations but
family.
Okay.
So
family.
>> Wow.
Yeah.
So
actually
Wow.
Now is your chance. Wow.
Yeah.
Right. And now is a chance.
Right. So again,
in general,
It's up to you. And that's the most
important. Yeah.
The feeling. It's your choice.
>> Yeah.
>> The marriage is hard.
They can't feel
right.
>> They can't feel it's mine.
The mistake was in the process.
It's your choice.
And what's the problem?
That's the worst
mistake.
Okay.
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Wow.
Okay. It's a compliment. You look
younger than that. Very nice.
>> Thank you. Um
this is um a lot comes up for me if this
because
sensitive topic but so much taken out of
like especially
and again discuss
and parents grow up.
Sometimes
he went back thousands of years
and
compassion compassion for
compassion. It's like wow
and that
they
We don't want to get hurt. We don't want
to.
And that's probably why parents
sometimes just they just push their kid.
It's
okay.
This is this is okay. Let it
>> Yeah. It's it's it's it's very powerful
what you're saying and and I think it's
more than that.
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the awareness and the knowledge and the
trust.
Yeah.
Right. So,
so the problem is Right.
>> For the rest of their lives. Wow.
Wow.
And it's so it's so heartbreaking
is heartbreaking about the kids
for the rest of his life. How does he
how's he supposed to face his family,
his own his own kids?
This is a trauma. divorces are trauma
>> 100% and and and this has to prevent so
so that's why I'm saying
the reason
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yeah painful question
like what should we do Right.
>> Like is a struggle
>> as a black single it's it's it's a
struggle is a struggle
>> bution
of devices
prevention.
because I don't believe in it. I believe
it's a trauma and it's very hard.
Right.
>> Right. So
prevent
you can't prevent it like
manifest the attraction and doesn't go
like he's stuck right
but the point is
I think that's very important.
>> Yeah.
as I mentioned.
Okay.
Fore
possibly acceptance mind but Emma's
acceptance of
mention
and it's always good to be on the right
track but acceptance mind
And the point is
well
and I'm telling you the struggle for
100%
26 27.
Yeah.
Wow. Yeah.
>> So the point is Yeah. of course
right because the struggle is Yeah.
Well, it can have a few meaning meanings
but I think one of the main meanings is
that
mentioned a guy and his daughter the
saying dealing with second marriage is
the mistake one and the second marriage
is the real one. So it's like okay
experience
27.
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Wow.
>> Think about it. He might just be lucky
like says okay down journey
concept. I'm curious your opinion of
this is that um
enjoy the conversation.
>> Yeah. Um I'm going to go another few
minutes but um
with somebody and they see the nish in
invelt
meaning this is this is this is kita
Michael's of the ideas in divorces
um in invelt in order for you to get to
know somebody you must be married to
them in order for you to introduce this
person to your family you have to get
married to them so there is a there's
mcken z mcken vuk
Um,
exactly. Yeah, thank you.
Doesn't have to be so bad. Like, you
know, especially.
Okay. So you got into a relationship
with a person
and then
I was like
okay good point. So
I I I I want to correct or maybe not
correct maybe I just want to share my
opinion that in communities
divorces according to the secular
notes
but according%
>> exactly
divorces
I don't know I didn't take the the
numbers but in general the community Um
but the idea was these sounds
interesting out of the box
>> but um the the problem is as most
divorces and messi
how to avoid this in other words
in the ideal world
I don't know like most divorces
and
understanding
mistake most of the time it doesn't
happen this way unfortunately yeah
>> in a divorce
divorces
mention
relationship.
So whatever
>> especially when I especially when I get
my own information about it
>> it's also true. So I tried on one shot
what he's getting into
right
so
I'm saying
right So it's it's not it's not so
simple.
It's it's very complicated. It's very
complicated.
>> It's very interesting thinking now of it
different
like
masculinity and femininity is like Z
combined. It's very like
>> everything is controversial and
everything is like hack versus
>> Yeah. But let's start with this that
most people don't know what masculinity
or femininity mind
>> right and apart is the like
correct in the is
most
masculinity mind they'll tell you no.
>> Mhm. And same as with femininity, they
they do not know what it means. And they
also don't know what it means to cross
the line.
When they when they take too much
leadership with too much responsibility,
right? So like meaning
is okay sometimes
masculinity power
man you know man spouse man is to my
other half right but
as I love saying their story like the
Vegas I mentioned describes
they'll always say you know
seven kids and my husband
And then and then they wonder why
there's no intimacy. Of course there's
no intimacy because I look at you as my
child,
>> right? Again, masculinity femin.
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Why? And says why
is important,
>> right?
>> She wants to help me. Okay. So, you help
her change diapers. Like,
>> wow. So,
right how to
>> and by the way that's also I think one
of the main reasons why why sometimes
mentioned intimacy if somebody wants to
solve this problem on one second
intimacy in a relationship
is masculine feminine
playful at all is in masculine
like
like how am I supposed to respect you if
you're not taking leadership ownership
if you can't make the decisions if you
can't if you can't lead how why
>> 100% 100% says yeah so mention
okay partners 5050 like whatever it
could
But it's it's something to to explore
>> but in general marriage
question
I get the marriage. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So
most recently
therapist discussed the topic
and
uh of um gave him the recipe for a good
marriage. So
level 10 marriage the recipe is
vulnerability.
That's the recipe meaning
often
is the recipe for the best marriage.
>> Yeah.
>> And by the way, the time to work on it
is much much much like right in the
beginning.
They said the best marriage was was a
couple
and in general um
number one
and I'm telling them
meaning if you don't have peace with
yourself it's a guarantee you will never
have bias like it's it's not going to
happen
issues
trauma
struggle.
There's no
Yeah. So
you don't know how to be vulnerable. You
can't express yourself from a real place
from a authentic place.
Relationship spouse
>> right beautiful.
>> This is this is something that I highly
recommend everyone to work on.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And I I will give my two
cents as a as a as a somebody that's not
married yet, which I understand. So some
people ask me, they gave him advice, but
I did my fair share of information and I
learned my share of uh knowledge and
wasab and collective uh and collected
over the years is and I think that it
comes down to
information and communication.
information mind
fstein fashine the male za lines the
male body fashine the female body
um there is so much information and this
the beauty from their courses with us
because it simply gives people
information so information mind
why wouldn't you take the time
a book about what a female is.
>> I love buyers.
>> Yeah.
>> The the the guy is constant. Why why
wouldn't you take the time? Isn't that
what life is all about?
>> And and especially when you acknowledge
that marriage is about giving. It's not
about taking. So if you're about giving,
make the research. Take the time to read
the books.
Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh and the same
goes for people that are already
married. Yeah. Take the time and go to
go for help business and personal life.
The amount of help is endless. I I can't
describe how many hours and hours of
help I took and that's where how I got
to where I got help and guidance.
Don't
blend
information. Information is power
literally.
>> It's very powerful.
>> Thank you.
is communication
is communicate.
Communicate
spouse
like
concept
cheating is is plain lack of
communication. If you guys don't want to
make it work, get divorced.
I I don't I don't understand it.
So they just choose to stay in their
mistake. Communicate. Communicate.
I would appreciate differently
like don't make it about them, make it
about you. You prefer something.
Communicate mention
because maybe you'll hurt their other
person's feelings, right? Like,
>> yeah, you're basically explaining
vulnerability in a in a beautiful
like
vulnerability.
Yeah.
Massive issues.
>> Yeah.
What do you mean?
That's how you felt.
Tell me more.
Lack of information.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right.
>> Meaning besides that's all she needs.
>> Yeah.
Yeah.
She knows everything. But
>> that's how you felt. Wow. Tell me more.
>> Yeah. And and and is okay.
>> Right. Right. Yeah. You're right.
>> I don't even blame them.
I don't know.
of bias and marriage. I don't know. Do
we not honor the I'm not sure, but maybe
happy relationships
like
I I don't I don't understand it.
Mckenzich gave him simple information if
I mention but I'm glad that's changing
and and you're the first to make to do
something about it information
again
but responsibility
basic knowledge Yeah.
Down.
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Yeah.
But watch
these guys
knowledge.
Oh.
Wow
difference
for example
whatever so it's a conversation it's
something
I don't think
family life
>> yeah and many people are are they they
are stolen from their masculinity or
femininity as for
the kitchen,
right?
sensitive. What is that? You're robbing
her. Suddenly
soft and passionate.
Exactly.
Patience.
So choose important point. Beautiful.
Yeah.
>> Anyway, I feel
I also feel like this is
questions
and I have a feeling I had a really good
time with I believe that questions. I I
would really love to sit down again
because
exactly covered a bunch range of topics
that I wanted to cover but endless
any business podcast because
this is the
Exactly. Alice is life. The most
important decision in your life is who
you will marry. Like
relationships
family. So it's such a you know wide
range of topics and I can discuss then
it's something that I would love to do.
So
>> I would be more than happy like it's my
it's my honor like
like generations.
>> Yeah. So, thank you very much, man.
Thank you everybody for listening.
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>> Okay. Okay. And that's all the
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Um,
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>> Thank you. Thank you, Ellie. Pleasure.
Yeah.
It's either marriage counseling. Um, so
marriage counseling, dating coaching.
Yeah.
the number in the description and all
information.
>> Yeah, fine. Thank you.