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Welcome, my friends. And yes, this show
is in English today.
You could do it in English.
>> do it in Yiddish. I I beg your pardon,
I'm on edge. I'll translate line by line
as we go. It's going to take an hour. No
subtitles? Just at the beginning.
No subtitles. In the world of AI, who
knows?
Exactly. So, today we're sitting with a
special year today.
For those who understand Yiddish a
little bit, will understand what I'm
saying.
I I hope you have somebody else in the
room because I don't
It's not that big of a room.
The show will light up first of all.
It's good to have you on. My honor. And
I don't know if you know, but he's been
sitting behind the scenes, I would say,
for how many years now? I mean, almost a
year? More than a year? I don't know.
There was no cake, so there's no you
know. Okay, we'll celebrate. We haven't
celebrated. Yeah. So, David What's your
What's How do you call yourself?
David Wanunu. David Wanunu. David Wanunu
is the name of a spy. Sounds like a spy.
So, David Wanunu has is known to a lot
of people in the industries, I would
say, the industries and many industries,
really.
As a business coach, I would say.
Business coach. People like saying
business coach, business guide, or
Business consultant, strategist. I've
been called everything, literally
everything. Unfortunately, but I know.
And it's And it's important to note that
given given the fact that David is
sitting is sitting right in front of me
is actually an honor for me. It's a
privilege because I know he's a
councilman in Rockland, in town of
Ramapo. He doesn't really carry that
title as his main thing. He just does it
on the side as a job, really, to be
honest with you.
I mean, the David Wanunu in Ramapo,
right? Oh, Yeah. But to jump Let's
jump cut, as they say, to the main
subject of today is business coaching in
the creative field. And we'll talk a lot
about that. Why is this important?
What's the desire by everything to do?
Business coaching, consultant is right
now.
David David Wanunu is about your idea
for the cloud as someone who helped many
in the business, right? Like can them?
Can we name them here? I Better not. No,
because okay, Gershy Schwartz is one of
them. Okay, well, he's your friend.
>> on edge. And this system, the gunsa on
edge is special, I would say, in his
case, because I wouldn't have done it
had he not come to my to the rescue,
let's put it that way.
Don't you
It's my honor. I've learned more from
you than you have learned from me. That
I can tell you. This is what he says all
the time. So, this is the reason why
he's so special. As I I used to give the
shiur to the shmaya, I could say that
for myself as well, because he came. But
this is how it works. Hashem's world
works in wondrous ways.
>> Amazing. Yes. Amazing.
>> I know it's amazing, but Hashem but it
it helped. And still, no, I'm not And
listen, I haven't yet gotten to where he
wants me to be. Eventually, I will, and
I will talk about that. We'll see why.
That's for sure.
>> We'll talk about why. So, David So, Reb
Dovid No, sorry, David. I'm just
Tell us why why creatives are the most
challenging subject when it comes to
your field of consultation.
So, first of all, thank you. Okay?
Um
Can I give a little shout out to my
Dovid? Yes. You know, I know one of the
conversations that we had is who's
interviewing who. Cuz I'm not used to
being on the receiving end like this. I
usually like to be on the other side.
So, uh today, you know,
this goes to be with somebody like you,
and to somebody who's literally, I guess
what we can do deal with in today's days
of the yesh mayan, that's where really
where creativity is.
>> Yesh mayan. Yeah, something that you you
have you have an idea, you know, as a as
a somebody who's in business. Somebody
has an idea.
And you being able to take that idea and
bring it to reality, you know, so
whatever it is. So, I come to you, I
tell you I I have my business, I do
consulting, I do coaching, whatever it
is you want to call it, and I need you
to be able to translate that
to the hamaynam. Exactly.
>> Right? Exactly. So, and and bring it And
it's not just that I understand it, not
that you understand it, but the hundreds
of thousands and millions of people out
there in with the way they digest
information, enough people to be able to
grab what it is that I'm trying to
accomplish.
And you being able to put it in those
words, it is
it's just a gift from Hashem. I mean,
there's no other way of saying it. And
your puzzle piece that makes business
work, I'm a puzzle piece that makes
people work, and everybody else out
there is a puzzle piece because the
basically the world, I tell this
everybody all the time,
the world's one big puzzle, and Hashem's
created us all with a different kish to
be able to go and make the world a
better place. Okay? Um some of us have
the ability of recognizing it and
reacting. Some of us need a little bit
of a kick to put us in the right
direction.
>> And some of us, um unfortunately,
dismiss it, you know, which which is
hopefully where people like me can go
and help people out to get to that
point.
>> Creatives are unique bunch, okay?
>> Yeah.
Ultimately, what I find with a lot of
creatives, one of my greatest challenges
with creatives,
especially ones that are in the
business,
are less focused on the business and
more on the art. Okay. You know, they
they they think more emotionally. That's
exactly my point, yeah. You know,
nothing wrong with that, but it's just
bringing it under control. And that's
really where my role comes in with a lot
of them is you're great at what you do,
okay? Now we have to monetize it.
>> You know why we have to? Why? You want
to put a roof over your head. Yeah.
You're some people are crazy and they
want to put food on their table, okay?
>> You know, I don't know why, you know?
But but but ultimately,
>> No figure. ultimately, you could be the
greatest at what you do. And by the way,
the the term creative, you could be a
creative plumber, you could be a
creative electrician, you could be a
creative wholesaler.
It it's easy to
>> a creative and you still get lost in
creative
>> When you get lost in your business
>> Yes. and not you know in in what it is
that your business does as opposed to
the holistic the whole piece of what the
business is. Right. I do something and
be able to make a parnassa. If you can't
marry those two
you you fall into that same pocket of
the creative problem.
I could say this is wow this is
It I'm the honest truth is for you
listening everyone that anyone listening
if you ever want to contact how can we
contact Like you David do you still
accept clients after me? I'm not sure.
I have no more time.
Um it's my cell phone is usually
LinkedIn if people are on LinkedIn I'm
easy to find. I'm assuming you have the
spelling of my name over there.
>> it there yeah I'm going to put it in the
link You can put both of my my cell
phone also.
>> Something like but say the number just
in case people are 201-446-5795
or
[email protected]
Dot com. Now the truth is David didn't
ask me to advertise him and I know
because his phones keep it goes off the
hook and I don't even know how he has
the time to sit here with me now but he
always answers his phone which is
amazing. No really I return calls. You
return calls.
That's a better insight I always return
calls. I think we're going to ask you
soon how you do that. But first of all I
realized one very important thing um
we're talking about politics a lot in
the news right? Um you know Donald Trump
is going to meet with Mondani now. So
things fall together so it's
interesting.
>> What did Donald Trump do wrong? I don't
know.
No let me say
Donald Trump is the most busiest man on
the planet right? He has jobs like from
here to Ghana so I would say he's
everywhere every all the time he never
takes a vacation he tries to at least
but it doesn't work
because people follow him wherever he
goes. So I feel like you're in a similar
position.
Oh boy.
So that's why I came to it. I only
mentioned it because of that you know I
always have to you know you have to take
the parsha of the week and try to find
yourself in the parsha of the week.
Actually it's amazing this week I found
us I found ourselves in the week I'll
tell tell how.
>> Really why? Yeah it's an amazing one. I
actually started something like that
last week with my Caruso. Yeah. I have a
Caruso, long story in its own right. Um
we we learn in Yona and Bitachon. So
right right now we're actually doing uh
Hakama um a book of Sera's safer on how
to have Emunah and Bitachon. It's an
incredible It's an incredible safer. Oh
my gosh.
>> read it yet, but it's incredible.
>> It's one of the best ones that I I've
been learning. Uh I we have gone through
I've been doing this now for a few
years.
>> Okay. Um so I just started a new project
with my with my Caruso. It was It's easy
to read. Right. Right. But now how do we
Language is easy, you're saying? No, you
you start learning it, you go and you
you get the theory. But you know, I I
was trying to get find a new way to how
do I open my eyes to it? Right. Okay.
>> So I literally this is my second parsha
that we're doing it. But I what I asked
my Caruso is that he and I started every
parsha we're picking out of a parsha
examples of Bitachon and Emunah that we
can learn from today. But it's not just
in Bereshit it's much easier say that
safer is much easier to do. I I I'm more
nervous when we get to the Yikra, I
think it's going to be a little bit more
challenging.
>> I know because of all the Halachas and
stuff, right? But here you see Like like
the like the Eira
and the Rotza and the
It's just Yeah, so How do you see it
today? I see it today. So but but but
the but the concept is it starts making
me apply it in real life so that even
when I'm walking in the streets and
things are happening, I it's it's
actually training me to pull out the the
the lesson of of
basically Bitachon and Emunah like
things are not accidents. Right. And
this and and I have to say this if if I
had to say those two people have to know
that um when you talk about business
coaching, business coaching is uh
it's a terminology used by many people.
Right. Everyone uses it. Consulting like
we said before. And I hear many
consultants. And I've I've sat with many
consultants happens to be I have. But
one of them the key elements I feel like
the key the foundation of of of a
consultant is his Bitachon, his faith.
100%. Because you can say No, people say
to me, Think realistically, be real.
This is real. That's the point and this
is ripped off of it. And I'll tell you I
I think you could say this that I start
off with this. Mhm. Hashem's running the
world. He's made the decision Rosh
Hashanah
is what was determined what you're going
to be making.
>> you call that? We are working in a world
of teva and hishtadlus. Okay?
We can't sit here with scratch tickets
from lotto and and hope for the best,
you know, for It works for some people.
There was somebody somebody just won I
think won $980 million in lotto.
>> I know. I know. Wasn't me. You know. Not
yet. So, but Never know. But the bottom
line is that
how do I how do I apply my hishtadlus?
With your skill set, somebody would come
over and say I want you to be a
bricklayer. Okay, you're not using your
hishtadlus properly.
>> Right. Right. Okay? You're a creative
genius. Okay? How do we take that
creativity
>> take it. No.
It's true. How do we take that and how
do we apply it? So, if you remember how
we first got started and then how this
evolved, you know? Yes. You have What is
your underlying skill? Now, how do I
take that underlying skill and where can
we apply that to make you successful?
>> out of it. Successful means money? Well,
you're asking a great question. Success
to different people means different
things. It could be translated.
Ultimately,
we we have to get some people out of
parnassah level. But
if you remember my first meeting, this
is where I start off with everybody. I
start off with what's the goal? Yes, I
remember that.
>> What's success?
>> I still don't know. I didn't I didn't
know. No, but I know the goal. No, but
thanks to you I know the goal. I didn't
know. I didn't know. And a lot of people
don't. Because you know what? If if you
are if you didn't understand that
hypothetically, let's let's call it you
want to make a million dollars.
I have guys that are making million
dollars and still
they didn't do anything cuz they they
didn't
So now, okay, now what?
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> It doesn't It doesn't satisfy them cuz
money is only What's money good for?
Money's to buy things.
>> For
If I wanted to get If I wanted to go buy
a fancy car, yes, I have enough money, I
can get that fancy car. It it's it's a
means to an end. But if you don't
understand what the end is,
Then you're then you're lost in
>> spinning. You're just spinning. Spinning
the edge, that's what we call it.
And you're never going to see success,
man.
>> it in. Okay.
You're never going to see success, and
you're never going to be happy.
That's a That's a That's a phenomenal
point. And also for those I mean for
those who don't understand in English,
it's a shame because I I would get this
a minute. I would I would explain this
to you, but it's very simple. It's very
simple. Um it is it is
Okay. Please. You have the column.
Column.
I'm not going to go through this now,
but the point is understand English.
Maybe he'll teach you something. He
doesn't teach English, but there's
there's plenty people out there. There's
AI. Anyway, so Oh, there's there's this
new system now that it it changes
accents. And somebody just told spoke to
me this morning about this, asked me if
there's a possibility to also change the
language while he's talking live, and
there is. There is such a thing. So, I
can speak English.
>> give me your voice? The way you present
yourself, yes.
How would you get that? I'm always in
awe how you I'm I love you. It's always
something you can always teach Maybe
it's something you can even teach me how
to present and how to talk like you. The
way you change your octave, is that is
the right way?
>> You're a gambler, that's sure. You
should know that. I'm a gambler.
He should know that. I'm just here for
complaints. I'm not here for anything
else.
Like everybody in the fancy says
complaints at What's it called again? He
has a special email for complaints.
Yeah, you know that one. Okay, so
So, here is So, So, moving on to the
subject of of creatives and obviously
building them and making something out
bringing the best out of them to
monetize whatever they have hidden. So,
making gold from creatives, that's the
idea. Um
I I have a a certain areas in this field
a lot and it happens mainly I know it
happens everywhere in in the non let's
say non creative field, but you said
everyone's creative so to speak in this
business. But let's put it that way, not
the not the the the you know, the fund
the the bonds and the and the trades and
all that. Like I'm talking about
creative. Right. There's competition.
And this is the word that scares
everyone. Yes. Especially creatives.
Yeah, especially exactly, especially.
So, how do you approach that? So,
I will tell you the creative space, just
in general, has changed dramatically in
the last few years.
>> Yes. Okay? Um there were even certain
some creative spaces of people who I've
helped that I
I get a lot of career coaching also that
I do where I have people coming in,
they're either at a midlife crisis where
they they want to change, you know, they
they feel they've maxed out and they
they're looking for an idea, or kids
coming out of school who are looking,
you know, what should I do? Mhm. Okay?
Um there are things I've stopped people
recommending for people to get into. You
know, a classic when you get into the
creatives, yeah, um would be um
graphic design. So, what do you tell
them?
>> Okay, so graphic design, it used to be
that we used to compete primarily with
offshore people. Right. You know? So,
>> Fiverr, are you talking about? Fiverr,
right.
Fiverr, yeah, that's basically most of
the Fiverr guys are coming overseas,
right? How do you compete with someone
who's going to do something for $5?
Exactly. $10. How are you going to
compete with that? Quality. So, quality?
So, now you're getting into the point
where my conversation with them is
what are you bringing to the table?
Exactly. Okay? How Are you better than
them? Then you could then Right. Now
you're getting AI in. AI has completely
transformed everything. in in ways that
you may be able to understand, but
probably a lot of your listeners and
viewers may not fully appreciate. Yeah.
Because one of the the the elements of
AI that's changing is the speed in which
it's happening. Yes. You look at AI 6
months ago versus what AI could do now?
>> Yesterday to today, like a major jump
today. It's It's wild. It's wild what's
going on. And with every announcement,
with everything that's going on,
>> Weapons Weapons are made with AI. Rafael
just announced, you know, there's a
ready tech firm, they made a new a new
missile that stays in the air for 25
minutes, uses AI, it doesn't need GPS
anymore because it remember crazy like
the target.
>> So, you're going to see and and I'm
seeing this because one of the things I
also do is I I help people um getting
jobs. Okay?
I'm seeing companies right now that have
eliminated positions because of this.
Really? Yeah, they've eliminated
>> just cut 13,000 jobs. Do you think that
has to do with that? I'm sure that I'm
sure there are elements of it. And if
not, you are going to see I I saw
actually a business forum. I don't
remember who was it that I was listening
to where they were debating
um self-driving vehicles. And you know
the argument was?
>> What was the argument? Is that they were
nervous that there were so many people
who relied people who were like can't
get a high school diploma that were
becoming truckers Mhm. that that niche
of people who could not be employed in
certain ways that that whole employment
space would be knocked out.
>> Yes. Then what are you going to do with
these people? Yes. This is this is
crazy. Whether true or not true, where
do you fall on the debate? It's not the
point, but the way people are thinking
right now is that there are sectors that
think Could you imagine doing carpool by
putting your kid in the car and on your
cell phone watching them go to the car
and coming back and you're still at home
drinking your coffee. I have no choice,
but yes.
No, but it's wild. Just think about
that.
The way we are evolving as a as a as a
people
>> a race, let's put it that way.
>> But it's everybody. This is not an
American thing, European thing.
>> race. The human race, the way it's
evolving is So now throw back your
question. Yes. So how how do you how do
How do I start thinking about it? Okay?
>> Competition. Listen, Hashem created us
for a reason. And and we are going to be
able to help. Okay? We have to be able
to evolve with technology. Mhm. Okay?
Computers, when they first came out, I
mean the first time that first mainframe
took up rooms and rooms. Today, you
know, my phone probably has more
technology in it today than what those
rooms all had in in the capabilities.
Right. And yet we're still here and yet
we're still able to be in business.
Okay?
>> yeah. So now you're that creative,
what's your skill? Yes. What problem are
you able to solve? Right.
>> Okay? Yes. Then working with my clients,
Yes. we find that right home for them.
Mhm. Similar to the way watch your your
business how it evolved. Right.
>> You're doing the voice-overs and you
were doing the videos and and now
I could we say numbers of how many
people you're touching?
>> I your list count is we're like you 60
to 80,000 people who
>> says it. So I I
No, but in how many months? This is a
wild concept that finding your schnitt
Schnitz. That schnitt, right?
>> One word here. I'm joking.
>> There you go. Okay. Scores. All right.
>> getting that one finding that home and
being able to to to make that schidduch
between the right person with the right
role,
>> Mhm. it probably is hard as Krias Yam
Suf, you know, no different. That's what
I say, yeah.
>> And then helping them monetize it.
Making money, I guess. So So I
So before you go with that, I just want
to ask you a question. First of all, sit
a little back because I feel the light
the the lights Oh, perfect. Now you can
see it. I mean, you can I was seeing the
whole time, but I I I have Sephardi
blood, so there's a little bit of tan.
So if I'm a little darker, it's natural.
Perfect. No, no, it's good. We're
natural here. This again, this system is
not really about the the what it's the
it's the how it's the what. Okay, so
going going back to that that part that
we just touched on, right? So yes, a lot
of people are worried about this.
Standing be I mean, you you Are you
suggesting that people should go and
like do certain things to control the
AI? Like to like what would you say?
Like how could you? Because yeah, the
fact is 13,000 people are losing their
jobs today because of Verizon, right?
There's a We don't know why, but this is
not might have been the reason. So what
would you say to high mission companies
that deal with this exact struggle? So
from the You're talking about from the
employee side or the company side?
>> side. From the company side.
>> Yeah, not a bad place to start cuz it
starts there, I think. I believe. Um
You'd be surprised how many companies
are are so
back the the their their technology
where they're standing they some people
have plenty of time to worry about it.
Especially now industry. Uh you know, um
I don't need to say anything. I can say
that. I'm getting calls from a lot of
these people. I I I can't I got a phone
call this week. Mhm. Literally this week
from an industry, let's call a
professional, let's call them a law firm
for the purposes
>> Yeah, sure. of this conversation, okay?
Um Lawyers. Lawyers. You think that
they're more experts? They went to
school for a long time, educated people
better than that. They're still using
pen and paper.
Amazing.
Handwritten.
Handwritten paper.
>> Handwritten and the person called me up
and said I I need you
>> papers, desks.
>> You know? Wow. I said you have scanners.
He laughed. I asked him, "So, they
started with a little bit of Excel, you
know?"
What's Excel? I know. I know.
>> No, but you know, that is a unique
situation.
>> I don't know. I I think they don't have
electricity.
So, you know, somebody's outside with a
with a kite and a key, you know? At
least they can light candles or
something special about that. No, but
you'd be surprised how many people have
have not taken those steps. Um
And and that
you know, I get phone calls like that as
well, you know? I but
most of the people for companies, it's
very hard to stay with the technology,
okay?
You're in a technology space. So, you
are by being in it you're watching it. I
mean, my my job is the technology.
>> Exactly. And you have to evolve with the
technology. So, you're you what you stay
current with, you may not be staying
current with other things that are not
important to you, okay? And that's a big
challenge with businesses. So, if I am
making up a electrician, okay?
I don't know all the new let's say
financial packages that are helping my
industry get better. I may not know all
the new AI appointment setting tools
that come out there.
>> That come out there, right. Exactly.
>> So,
you know, it it it shouldn't be you
shouldn't be fearful of this, but I I
think everybody who wants to be smart to
some degree needs to go whether they go
to um shows, you know, uh exhibitions
exhibitions, they they do owe
responsibility themselves and their
business to stay somewhat current and
opening themselves up, talking to
competitors. I'm in touch with my
competitors all the time. Yeah, so I I
actually thanks to you I do that a lot
now. It seems so important. It's so
important.
>> together.
But the right people, you have to be
careful. You have to know how to play
nicely with each other. You got to have
boundaries. Right. But be careful who
you who you do this with, you know? But
I'm a huge advocate of people having
relationships with their with their
competitors.
>> I wouldn't be sharing any business ideas
with them because that's not the point.
>> Exactly. There's a limit, okay? You
know, but
if you want to talk about how you do
billing, that's not really affecting
your business. Oh, you use QuickBooks, I
use whatever it is.
>> Right, right. That's not the
>> You know, I wouldn't mind if you were a
friend of mine, I wouldn't mind sharing
that kind of dialogue with you, okay? I
may not share with you editors, Right.
>> you know? I may not share with you who
takes great videos, Right. Because
you'll find yourself here. Exactly. But
because that is really
I'm getting too close. That's those are
my secret sauces, okay?
But I think we actually got off cuz you
asked me another question. In the
beginning, I remember.
>> the question. And that is, you know, I
we always get There's so much to talk
about that Right. Let's go. I know. You
know, I I I love this. We could be here
for hours, you know?
Yeah, you know, um The train is moving
on.
Creatives Yes. are their own unique
breed. They're real creative, okay? And
I throw into that artists, Sounded a bit
weird as you put it. Okay. Breathe,
breathe, breathe, breathe.
>> artists, um
graphic artists, sometimes even web
designers, people who are in the space
of
of I you see I because there is an
element of creative like I told you in
these other lines of work, but the the
more emotional type businesses. You
know,
with a lot of them feelings it's it's
feeling based businesses, okay?
Their greatest challenges are
I'll tell you like I tell this to people
all the time.
No. No, I'm actually not a creative.
No, I I don't I don't I don't see that
about myself. I have feelings for people
cuz I want to see them successful and it
hurts me when
I am happier than my than my client is.
When when they're successful. I'm like
it's like you know, and when my client
and when my client falls, I'm hurt more
than them. I was on the phone this
morning with a client of mine that's
going through a real sorrow.
You know, it's like okay, how can I do
what what can I do? How do we help you?
You know what?
So, it's just
I take that and that element I'm very
emotional I guess if that is really what
you're looking for,
but but the the business unfortunately
business
you know, I guess it's one of the
reasons they they a man could be a dying
and a woman can't be a dying if you're
thinking with your mind versus your
heart. It's not like oh, you don't think
with your brain. It's nothing like that.
It's more from the standpoint
in my by me feeling bad for somebody
who's not having
a success as opposed to telling him
you're not successful because you're I
just had this with a client literally 2
weeks ago. I called him up very very
difficult conversation. He was a
creative in his thing
and he starts his day at 11:00.
Okay.
You know, and he looks at I I look at
him. He's in sales by the way, but he's
a creative
and I'm looking at him and he calls me
up at 11:00 and tells me, "Okay, what
should I do today?"
Really?
>> I'm like
What are you you eating what what where
are you holding right now?
You know, I just finished davening and
I'm ready to get going. I said, "What
time do your clients open up?" This
guy's clients start at 7:30 8:00 during
the office and they shut at 4:00.
Really? I said, "You just lost half your
day." So, that's the type of client he
services, I guess.
>> right no, but he services, right? And
but his
Whatever whatever challenges he has that
we're trying to help him get over,
when you're starting your day and half
the day is gone you know? He loses
>> That is where my head and no heart goes
in cuz at some point I can't go
it's 11:00 talk to let's see how we're
going to do this. Right. You know what?
>> my conversation by the way?
>> He got a good he got good pitch on that
phone over there. Don't call me at
11:00. And you know what I start doing
with a guy like him? Every morning at
7:00 he gets a phone call. Really? You
get out of bed and go daven. Wow.
>> I can't be radical.
>> mom is like a mashgiach. I can't I in
Yeshiva I was a backer. Very dangerous
job. I I got more more people gave me
curses at that
I
That's a new line. That's a new type of
Jew I didn't imagine that. Okay. It fell
on me by accident. I was like yeah I was
the backer. I barked Shema Shema gave me
>> Which Yeshiva did you go to? That time I
was in Denver. Oh, wow. Okay.
Interesting.
So,
so interesting I think it has some a
point there because I remember the
conversation I had with you cuz I I
literally transitioned from my my day
when you came. Because the beginning I
remember you started ditching my
appointments because of it. I was
actually it was good. You started you
changed around our whole schedule
because you changed your whole morning,
yeah. No, but not just that. I'm going
to a point what you just said, waking up
at 11:00 and starting your day at 11:00.
My life was like this because I just saw
this funny meme yesterday. So, a guy
says he they sell that he calls that he
He to say He "So, I used to wake up 7:00
in the morning every day. Then I saw a I
woke up and I see my friend Nelson was
up at 7:00. I said, 'Nope, I got to do
better than that.' So, I started waking
up at 6:00. And then I wake up at 6:00
and I say and I see my friend Haim is
learning in shul already. I said, 'Nope,
I got to wake up earlier.' So, he
started waking up at 5:00. But at 5:00,
you know, he sees three people in the
street. He says, 'No, no, no, come on. I
have to wake up earlier.' So, he started
waking up at 3:00. And then he went back
and back, he says, "Until he realized
that time has come that he has to wake
up at 1:00 in the morning. So, fine,
1:00 in the morning, great. Okay, he's
waking up at 1:00, but he sees that the
people that work night jobs are up then.
He says, "No, that's not going to work
for me. I need to wake up much earlier."
So, he started waking up at 4:00 p.m. in
the afternoon.
That's the sign. Before anyone, before
the day could start. So, my point is I
Yes, my my life. That was That was my
life. Was, was, in past tense. But the I
just want to finish my point. My point
is you get You came in, but
the the the real challenge that most of
us in my industry, not this one
specifically, but the industry, let's
say I'm kind of slowing down in.
I'm not slowing down because you told me
not to, but I am because it's the
musicians. They're up at night. It's
night job for them. And I'm a studio
engineer. When do they come to the
studio? Are you available, Gershy, to
come? So, he calls me at the I'm I'm
going to stop 4:00 in the afternoon.
Because this is what their life is. I I
don't blame them because when else are
they going to go to sleep, right?
>> So, as a business, we have to learn to
adapt to our clients. Okay? Okay? But
our clients have to learn to adapt to us
in a in certain well,
these rules are not general rules. I
I'll tell you my rule of thumb, people
used to come over to me and say, "Okay,
what systems do you use?" Like people
got very familiar with EOS and and
whatever other systems I forgot what it
stands for. It They're different
business
tools that people use out there. And I
tell people, "My system is you." Okay?
Every person has their strengths and
weaknesses. Everyone. It's my job
to figure out what's Gershy's strengths,
what's Gershy's weaknesses. We all have
both, okay?
>> Yeah. Learn how to magnify those
strengths and learn how to compensate
I don't know if there's a good English
word but that may be a little bit
difficult to compensate compensation
to compensate for those weaknesses. Like
you claim make compensation. And it
could be hiring somebody. It could be,
you know what? You're just going to be
weak in that. We all have that. Now
knowing the whole picture of who Gershy
is, now take that, Bria
and make him successful. So that's your
that's your approach.
>> That is my job and that is my approach
and and Baruch Hashem Baruch Hashem I've
lived well and so on it's been very
successful. That's may it continue to be
so. Amen. But but
one thing though I want to
yeah it's your bias. One of the greatest
challenges that I find that
one of them because there are a couple
things that everybody has these unique
things but this industry of that
creative person one of the greatest
challenges they have
is that they look for perfection in
their work
by their standards. That people don't
even notice. Their clients 98% of them
will not will not there's always those
2% who are not who won't be paying for
it. No yeah so focusing on that but I'm
I'm focusing on the 98.
>> I I had a client of mine once call me
up.
Uber creative. I mean this guy greatest
guy in the world. Greatest guy in the
world. He called me up with a particular
project that he did. Mhm.
And he sent it to me. What do you think?
Nice. How much money you making on it?
No no no no you don't understand. This
is going into a museum. And he was
right. He this thing is going into a
museum.
>> Yeah.
Could be. How much you making on it?
You're frustrating me.
Don't tell me that again. I remember
exactly where I was. I was driving on
Route 59 when this phone call was going
on. Don't do that to me and this is
going on and on. I said Myishy made up
name. Myishy I don't care how it looks.
How much money you making on this thing?
And he's screaming at me. He's I'm going
to hang up on you if you ask me that
again. I said, do you understand my
point?
My point to you is
you spent days on this project, okay? If
your whole thing is because you want to
make it look like the greatest thing
that you're going to put it in some
magazine for your industry
for what reason? So that your
competitors are jealous? Exactly.
>> Who cares? You're here to put my a roof
over your over your home, okay?
The bottom line is that this is not
bringing you closer to making money. Why
did you just do this last week? Wow.
That's what we all suffer from. And and
in the creative world, it's not perfect.
It's not perfect. It's not perfect. It's
not It must be hard to work with these
people. It's it's challenging. It's not
you. Everybody else is challenging.
You're the easiest. Yes, it is a
challenge, but you know I I guess maybe
that's why you say it was far as the
heart.
>> Yes. I care. I want to see you
successful, so I have the patience to
watch that.
Yes, I do I do have the patience and I I
I
I take it personally if it doesn't work
out. You have the patience and the
patience.
But I can't give you a medication.
There's no drug for that. No drug yet.
One day, one day. AI maybe will make it.
Yeah, it's a creative syndrome. But
that's that's the that's the challenge
we are all in. But you know what? At the
end of the day, I mean, who doesn't want
to have a little bit of a challenge? I
mean, we all love challenges. That's
that's the idea. And I like it.
Absolutely I like it. It's hard for me.
>> I shouldn't have challenges. Right.
Right. No, I I like it I must say I like
the idea of it, even though I hear it
constantly from you, "Stop being such a
perfectionist." And I want to be
perfect, but then I think, "No, no, no,
no, you're right. Let me challenge
myself. Let me tell myself I'm done."
Even though I'm not done. I said it
yesterday to a client who called was on
the phone with me about a mix and a song
and everything.
The other the other part of my job,
right? So I told him
he was So I told him Split personality.
>> Yeah, so I said exactly. So, I told him
you have to understand if you're going
to say it's good then it's not going to
be good. So, you have to say it's not
good. You have to have comments. Then I
know it's fine. It's perfect.
So, he says, what do you mean to say
with that? Exactly my point. So, that's
it. The mix is done.
So, so but no, but this is this is part
of the challenge and I accept it and I
people probably people listening here
would also relate to this a lot and they
could call again. I'm going to say it
one more time. If you haven't listened
to me before focus pay attention. I know
you're creative. You have ADHD like me.
I'm joking.
I know. So, my point is that I'm going
to going to bring it up just because I
want you to to remember what I was
talking about before the Trepper plan,
okay? What's the number again? 24
446 5795.
And I'm plugging it in. He didn't ask
me. I'm saying it again. Why am I saying
it? Why am I excuse myself? But the
point is I want you guys to know that
there is people like him out there in
the in the real world in the real so
focus on reality, right? Real world who
are actually there to help. Now, yes,
he's busy and I don't know if he has
time, but he'll have time for my my
listeners to mention on edge and say to
him that we listened to your podcast on
edge to this to the thing and we want to
we want to have your services. And
don't call me from the edge though.
When you call though you can be on edge.
But afterwards he I'm probably telling
you he's going to put you on the edge
and you'll be a fine you'll be fine. You
won't be hanging off an edge. Let's put
it that way. And it's So, that's that's
the idea. So, now going back to
let's see how much time we still have. A
great 34 minutes exactly. That's
that's that's the point. That's the
idea. You want to you want to speak you
want you have something else to talk
about because No, I'd like to hear about
you.
I don't have much to say about me. You
know more than
Because you know what? If we're talking
to people who are looking to start a
business like that, we could do a whole
topic on how do I start a business,
okay?
Let's talk about that. Meaning you
started, you know, you people think oh
like an idea that's it, to be
successful. they run with an idea, and
how many times have you had to evolve
into other businesses? I can tell you
for me, do you know many different
businesses I've been in and tried and
failed at? I you you can't imagine, but
each one of them I got a lesson out of
it.
>> Right.
You started as a creative. How did you
know you were a creative? Exactly. How
did I know? I mean Because I want to say
one point with that. But I find one of
the greatest things is people when they
have a strength, they don't realize that
they can make money with that strength.
Okay. I can There are many people I
found that oh my gosh,
I'm such a handy guy. Okay, so why
aren't we doing
I don't know. No, come on, who can't who
can't change a sink? No, but It's
difficult to chew after Shakra's talk.
It it but that is.
You you did that, you know? And you made
a business out of it. You you got you
had the guts to able to hold your nose
and jump in and make that decision. For
instance, this this thing, this thing.
How did Why did you allow me to do this,
by the way? This show, the online
>> Oh, I loved the idea when you told it to
me. Yeah? I loved the idea.
>> think it's going to waste my time? No. I
think it does. No, it doesn't? I I've
told you other things not to go into.
Okay, fine.
>> Right?
I have. Yes. But you know what? And I'm
not telling you I'm that guy who who's
the good best filter of it, but you
know, sometimes you just feel something
like okay, here's here's where our
strengths are, here's our idea. Wow,
okay.
>> Let's put it together. There.
Everything we do, especially in
business, in sales, is like I told you,
is problem solving. Right. There is
nothing that there is no sale that is
successful that is not solving a
problem.
>> Right. And like you and I have spoken
about this. If I'm hungry, a pizza shop
is doing sales to me cuz they're solving
my problem. I'm buying Yes, you solve
Somebody has a leaky faucet, a plumber
is going to go and solve
solve their problem.
>> Yes, correct. What is the problem that
you're solving? Okay? Yes.
Getting One of the things you you're
doing this right now, you know, I would
I want to say for us because I really
want to do this for you, not so much for
me, is how do I get
me and my message out to potential
clients? Eyeballs. Same thing for you.
Eyeballs, ideas. How many people right
now saying, "You know what?
I had this idea in my head that I want
to go off on my own for so long. I know
what I need to talk to." I just had a
phone call like that today from
somebody. I get calls like this all the
time, you know?
You're going to get some more now. Help
me help me make this into a business,
okay? Wow. Do you think this is a
business? Okay. So, when you came to me
with this idea of you know what? There's
a hole in the Yiddish-speaking world.
>> Yes. They they like the news, they're on
top of the news, but there's nobody that
takes on the sensitivity of the news
where it's news, maybe certain topics
that shouldn't be spoken about, maybe
certain topics that don't get enough
airtime. Right. That that we as as
people, you know, the Yiddish-speaking
space that want to hear more about.
Don't just tell me Trump and Netanyahu
meeting.
to know what's going to go on, but on
national news, you may not see it.
Right. You have now solved a problem
Yeah. in that space and and in Yiddish.
Yes. You know? And K'nai Na'arah came
near you. Yeah, baruch Hashem. Now, you
just expanded into that. I don't know if
we were going public with that, but you
know, K'nai Na'arah, the
Yiddish-speaking community
in the last 5 years, 10 years. Just look
at the growth, K'nai Na'arah, and look
how far it's spread out. Yes. You know,
when I was growing up, you know, it was
Borough Park and Williamsburg, okay?
>> all you know. Now, Monsey Monsey's
busting out. Lakewood, which was all
Litvish, now has a tremendous
Yiddish-speaking area. And you got
Yeshivish Yiddish, you got Chassidish
Yiddish, you got It's a massive field.
>> Yes, it's got That's why I'm doing this.
I mean, the truth is because of
Lakewood. I've been I've been doing
this, and the most of the Lakewood crowd
have been requesting in English because
I guess they do want to have
They don't have to break their I I I my
teeth, but their teeth, I mean to to
listen to me. But you're touching people
worldwide right now. And and you're
doing this 5 months, 4 months? What is
More
It would be I mean I started it before,
but we didn't do it live, you remember?
>> Right. Till till you started going live.
That's what After
Do you understand that to hit the
numbers that you're here, you're just
showing the hole that exists out there.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
How did that happen? This That is
something
>> Of course. Of course. Hashem is involved
in everything, okay? And you're solving
a major problem. But the people who
should be listening and who would have
an interest in talking to a guy like me
I always like using real life
real life examples, okay? Here's a guy
had an idea.
What gave you the guts to do that? The
willpower.
But that willpower does not give you
guts. Because I I I felt there was a
lack in terms of what I do, really.
Right. And I I was I was I'm going to be
a little selfish here. Please. No,
because You should be.
>> like I had God gave me a talent.
And I use it for my business, right?
Voiceovers, ads, all day.
And I thought I I want to be meaningful.
I want to do something. But everyone's
doing podcasts. So I thought how do I
jump into the podcast world without
being a podcaster?
Okay.
>> So then I thought, wait a second, news.
But me news, I don't like politics. I
never loved me news, politics and news,
but whatever. I never loved the idea of
news because it makes me sad sometimes
to see sad things, especially yesterday.
Things that happen. It it just breaks my
heart. But then I thought, wait a
second, there are people out there that
want to hear it, but you can spin a
light a lighter you can spin it a little
bit and make it lighter for them and to
be able to take it because they want to
know it at the end of the day, but not
let them feel after they listen to me
going out there and being sad all all
day because of that. So I always leave
them off with a good note and I try my
best to twist it, to spin it into that
kind of thing. This is what made me do
it. I thought about it all the time. I
decided, you know what? I'm going to go
for it. I'm going to ask David. I'm
going to ask Dovid. And Reb Dovid told
me it's a great idea and and I actually
But one thing is very interesting. I I
asked Zalman, right? Zalman who is
basically helping me um um um launch
this obviously every single day. I'm a
leader. So he he told me the only thing
I'm worried about you is consistency, he
said. Other than that, you're great at
it, he said. And that's a big creative
problem. Right. Creatives have that
problem cuz
they get lost in themselves. Okay? And
they they start prioritizing the wrong
priorities.
>> Yes, correct. You know? And we're always
working on that. I'm working on that
with with with certain things myself.
You're working on that in certain things
of how to improve. And we're if we're
not growing, then to the to you know
Horror roots. But but
I I want to even go back with you one
step before that. Okay.
>> the entrepreneurial
bug that you got caught. What made you
go off on your own? Why not go work for
somebody? Oh, oh, you mean that? Oh,
wow. Okay. I I wanted to be I've been
told that many times, by the way. I'm
saying that, but now
if somebody's watching this and saying,
you know what? I have an idea, but I
can't do it. You know, I need that
motivation. What's that kick? There are
a lot of people when I talk to them,
they need that that not even a push,
like you know
pointing them in that direction that
yeah, you could do it. I did it. I'm the
I'm a nobody. You know, I went off on my
own. I'm nothing special, you know? And
And you know it's not for everybody. I
will tell you. I I've met I'm a very big
proponent of people going off on their
own cuz there's a lot of value, but it
really is not for everybody.
Um I don't have to tell you it comes
with a lot of challenges, right? You
know? Especially cost cost conscious.
All beginnings are hard, okay? And And a
lot of people can't handle that. And I I
will tell you there were people who I
recommended against it. You tell them to
go work for someone? Go work for
somebody. Especially in the beginning,
I'm dealing with that right now with
somebody. Younger people sometimes. I
like to see them
>> Start working for somebody, get learn
discipline. Learn understand, you know,
it's not school. You're not going to
your rebbe, your morah and saying,
"Yeah, I don't want to come in today.
I'm taking a lazy day today."
>> And I work like that, by the way. It
doesn't work. That doesn't work. Cuz you
know what? It's It sets a tone.
>> Yeah. When people are relying on you and
have expectations from you,
>> Yeah.
And another classic example, we deal
with this a lot.
Um I highly recommend parents who want
to bring their kids into their family
business that they don't that they
shouldn't start with them.
Go work for somebody else first.
>> Okay, fine. So what English you saying?
What's the English of that word? Yes.
Okay.
>> Yeah. But if you're going to bring that
child into the business,
>> Yes. don't be their father and their
boss to start off with because there are
tense times, okay? And you don't want to
create your own bias issues. Also not
correct. You know? Yes. And there need
to be rules when you come into this
business. I deal with a lot of family
businesses that that But you could you
could sometimes make an exception
sometimes. It works. No.
There There's a positive and a negative
to it. There's a positive and negative.
You just have to know
with your eyes wide open, I'm making a
decision. I understand the pluses. I
understand the minuses. And I understand
how to deal with it. Okay? Especially
with family. The last thing you want is
that the
at a as between certain family members
not just between the men and the women.
Okay? And unfortunately, we've all been
to those where family members have not
showed up because they haven't spoken in
years. Yes. Okay? And it's preventable.
And it's And it's repairable. Yeah. They
should have told about that kugel
before. Yes. And or they didn't put in
noodle kugel when they wanted potato
kugel, and that's it.
That's it. It's all right. Next time.
They'll learn their lesson. I taught
them. I want to I want to bring
something up that you just brought up. I
don't know how long this can go on for,
but we probably can go for another 2
weeks, but but one very important thing
that you just brought up. And I actually
I relate to it. You said that you you
sometimes you recommend people to stick
to working for someone because it
creates a discipline.
Um I know you realize what you said, but
I don't think anyone who listened
probably figured that like that
they
they were with you on that because I
need to slow down like slow down that
word discipline for a second. It's
important to have discipline in all this
your own business I realized and I think
I got that by working for a grocery
store for like five years of my life I
think or three yeah something like that
and it really gave me patch that that
business really I mean I came late and I
was until one point my he was a tzaddik
this guy with tzitzit. I hope you makir
tov to him. 100% But but you know what?
You're unique cuz I can't tell you how
many times I've met people they they
cursed out that boy
and they didn't take it as you know
what? He put up with you and he he
trained you and you really need to have
a hakaras hatov to a guy like that.
>> he he he was very he was very tough but
with love and I liked it about him. At
the time I was like I was it's funny
like I never came to I never ever cursed
him out. I was always like appreciating
him even though it was hard for me. At
one point he he came to me so far he
used to give me he was nice. He was just
super nice.
I can mention his name because he's a
tzaddik of Yated guy. His name is Reb
Dovid Zaltsman. If he listens to this,
thank you. I want to say to you again
this is my my my guide now my business
coach and I
mamesh he reminded me of this now. It's
you mamesh reminded me of this. His name
is Dovid as well you see. Wow
>> was
he used to come to me and he used to
tell me like you know okay fine. You
know what? I'm going to give you the
responsibility to open the store. Wow
>> That's that's going to do something.
>> Beautiful. And he was right. It did.
And one point I remember and boy did I
mess up one day and never ever did I
mess up since that day. It happened to
me. You know what he tells me? I don't
know the exact words he told me but it
was good you make that mistake. It's
very very disappointing that you did
this that you came and you didn't open
up the store on time. That the other guy
had to open up instead and it was late
people were waiting outside. If I it was
the devastating moment for me.
I'm you want to I'm embarrassed at this
moment? Of course I am. But at the At
the time it's a lesson for someone else
to learn not to get lost and I didn't
get lost. He's teaching you a lesson and
believe you me, believe in me he means
your what he means your title, means
your well being. Until the very point
from then on
when I got engaged he was so upset that
I left. Right. So so I'm saying like I
had to leave right to move to to
America. But that was the point. The
point is that discipline, it taught me
discipline and that's when I felt
comfortable to go on my own. I was never
comfortable to go on my own. There is an
initiative that I've wanted to do for a
long time and I do it in a in a little
bit but if I wanted to make a real
Sudoku initiative
I I would love to expand the miser
element within within companies where
every where successful business people
will take on a person Mhm. as an
achrayis Yes. to make them into
I'm going to say a mensch. I I I don't
mean in that regard but meaning take
that guy who needs an opportunity. Make
them into a mensch.
>> I'm not firing you. You can not do
anything that I'm ever going to fire
you, okay? But you know what?
I'm going to make sure you understand
and give you the tools to be successful.
We don't have anything like that. When
you're in your Shiva again it's not
there's nobody but somebody who's going
to go put their arm around your macher.
Support of such people is hard, yeah.
>> I care about you and I want to see you
successful whether it's your learning,
whether it's your doubting. You see what
I'm going to do that with with with with
people on a hashkafic level. But you
know what?
How do we make somebody successful in
their parnassa? Sometimes they have all
the koachas of of of what what needs to
be done but they lack they lack the the
I I don't know the word that they they
it's not always skills that make you
successful. There are a lot of very
talented guys out there that are not
successful because the the the other
tools that they need are either broken
or non-existent because nobody ever took
the time out to say, "You know what?
If you're going to be a doctor, you
can't make an appointment at 9:00 in the
morning and not come to one.
You can't do that. It's not You know
what? You know why you can't do that?
Cuz this guy had a job. This guy took
off from work. This guy hired a
babysitter. This guy lost 2 hours of
work and now has to come back to you
again. And nobody ever ex- explained and
showed them "Look at the damage that you
just caused." The point being is
sometimes
we understand it in a in a higher level,
but who's that person who's going out
there and training that person?
>> Taking a kid, taking a bucker, maybe
just finished college, or you know,
or even women who are going into the
workforce. Now with all the people who
are going into the college, you have a
lot of wives that have careers over
there.
>> Yes. Who's taking Yeah, I don't know how
they do it. I I I'm telling you, Nesan,
there's no other way Nesan, I see my
wife every single day. I don't know how
she does it.
>> How they do it is beyond me. But, you
know what? So, they have limited amount
of time, you know, cuz they have to get
the kids off to yeshiva. Then they're
picking up the kids. They're going to do
the babysitter. They're juggling all
this. So, some of them have only a x
amount of hours in that day. How do we
make them as successful as possible?
>> Right.
>> Okay?
>> Yes. How do we do that? But, who's
helping them there? You know, you come
at a school School prepares you for
nothing.
>> Right. It prepares you for nothing.
Right. Honestly,
the way our school system work and what
we what we make as important that we
drive our kids crazy with is not
preparing our kids for the for this kind
of for the real world.
>> For the world. They're not prepared for
it. I would love it. You know what? To
me, I'll go so crazy. I would never give
somebody a diploma in for high school
even if they didn't have a year working
with somebody. Working working An
internship internship. Internship. You
know what? What does it mean come into
the What does it mean that I have to go
dive in shachris? Let's use now. Nates
is very late. I I haven't been a very
early riser. Right? I I don't to do it.
probably What do you do all these hours?
Yeah, so I learn about it's only time I
get a chance to do that. You know, but
now Nate's I think it's like 10 to 6 10
to
It's 10 to 7. It's very late right now.
If you have to be at work at 9:00 I
tried to get him in I couldn't get him
in any earlier than that. It's very
hard.
>> If you get If you have to be at work at
9:00, okay? Today's lightning,
tomorrow's Rosh Chodesh, okay? So
davening unless you blow
it It's you're going How do you balance
your life to allow for that, okay? I I
could be easy say
Like in Yeshiva, I come 15 minutes late
to share. Okay. You know what? If
there's somebody dependent on you in an
office, you're not getting away with it.
Shabbos is early.
>> What would you do about this?
>> So the the the concept is having
somebody in a caring way who wants to
see this person
>> You're talking about the the the the the
the the the boss.
>> This Hesed initiative of being able to
to to to to to to to to to to to to to
to
>> he is, he is that person. And you could
do it in so many different
>> him on the show. I mean it would be
great. I would love to to be here live
to watch something like that. I mean I I
>> I know.
Speak to him. There aren't many people
who who who who who who who who who who
who want to take that on. Exactly. Why
did he do it? I I'm still asking myself
why did he do it? I don't know why he
did it, but he was he's super nice.
There are There are people out there.
I'm actually looking for some people
like that right now cuz I have a few
people that I I need I I need a boss
like this. For them? Yeah, I do. There
are a lot of people No, no. If If
there's anybody out there who who'd be
interested in taking on a bucher or or
a man or you know, something I I please
please reach out to me. The idea The
idea is to be disciplined and also to to
be know how to be their rabbi. How do
you say it? Like to give Yeah, to give
them with to have the
The The The
The The makel and also the honey. Both.
Yes. Yeah. It's important. Yeah. But the
What I The first thing before I give
anybody like that, they need to be a
mekabel. Mekabel.
>> All my I will not take in a client who's
not a mekabel. You're going to fight me
the whole thing, it's not going to work.
If you you need to be in a position of
life to be able to receive but with not
just thick skin that you're always being
attacked with. You're always hitting me.
He's hitting me again. A cali, a click.
Yeah, if it was if not it's not going to
work. And maybe you're not ready at this
time. We'll get you. I don't give up on
people. Wow. So so it will get it, you
know. So It's amazing this. This is a
fascinating subject this. We can go on
and on. Um
David, you tell me it's 52 minutes in.
Do you want Do you want to end it here
for the for the tipper? I actually have
a 3:00 today.
>> We can We can do a part B and we will do
a part two.
>> Part two. I'm looking forward to it.
Yes. Mr. Shmuley Boteach, thank you so
much for coming to my show.
>> And thank you all for listening. And
again, if you want to If you want to
reach out to Reb David, he's always
available whenever you want on 201
446-5795
or david@thetrepperline.
>> At the trepper line. And the details
will be there below. And thank you again
everyone for coming on and staying with
us on Spin the Edge. And we'll see you
again next time or tomorrow on the news.
Good and holy shabbos. I get the Well,
today's good holy shabbos. I'm putting
it out on Sunday. So let's see
a good holy shabbos Wait, it doesn't
make a difference. Yes. I wanted to I
finish with one thing. I always like to
do that. I I said it already in the news
section but you find yourself in the
parsha quick thing. Yitzhak, this week's
parsha says Yitzhak was was chucked out
as Abimelech chucked him out because he
became good good good ish good on. He
became very big.
>> Right. Right. So this is us today. The
Jews are becoming very big as they say
the Yidden, right? I was afraid of that.
They're chucking us out. And but at the
end of the day Abimelech comes running
back to him and he asks him why, but you
hated me. You chucked me out. He says
because I saw Hashem in you.
>> In you. He saw Hashem in you. This is
what we need. Hashem in us. Anyway,
thank you so much. Thank you. Anything
you want to say? No. Have a great day.
Oh oh oh, very important thing. Sorry, I
know you need to go. I always ask my
listeners or my viewer my Sorry, I
always my I would say my co-hostees my
guests. I always ask my guests one
question. Usually they tell the camera
something, but I want you to tell me
what can I learn from you?
Oh my gosh. It's I'm learning from you.
I I What could you learn from me?
>> Yeah, no, it's it's an important thing.
I feel I feel like a lot of people have
this and one middle one thing one
anything really.
Oh, this is putting me on the spot for
something? You're You're like You're
I look up to you. So, like how do you
tell someone you're looking up what they
could learn from the other side?
>> Exactly. You sit a little bit
I mean
I'm
Who am I? Nobody really.
There is something, I'm sure. You have a
heart of gold. I'm just I'm going
through I see you care so much for
everybody. Do my job, right?
>> I I know I'm talking about you. Like you
know
>> what I can learn from you. Like anyone.
I'm I'm representing others.
>> maybe if there's one thing that I Again,
it's where we're working to is
more understanding scheduling.
Like in meaning? Meaning
the importance of not what you what what
works for you doesn't necessarily work
for others.
>> Okay, explain.
>> So,
your releasing let's say the news at
certain times. It's a convenient time
for you, but you may not be as
convenient as the people who are looking
for your service.
Okay.
>> So, understanding that scheduling we all
as a as people, we have a very big
misconception that we look at through us
and say, "Oh, okay, I don't like this,
so that's us. Oh, I don't need this, so
they won't want this." Mhm.
I when I train people, the first thing
is they're not allowed to look I don't
want to know their opinions. Right. What
are the people around you? What's going
to work for them? Because that's your
customer, but you are not your customer.
People mix that up.
>> right.
>> You are not your customer. You have to
look at your customer and say, "Okay,
what do my customers want from me?" And
that's what you have to work on. Wow. If
that's what you need me focused on. Yes.
I mean, that's a good lesson to learn
from you. I guess I guess it's one of
the things and it's a big thing
actually. My
major thing. And yes, we got to look out
for the other. It means don't be sure
that
but the
the other people you have to look at
them. You have to look at the other
people. What do they want? And what are
you serving them? Very good. I like
that. Okay, very good. Amazing.
How's me the week and I have to talk you
and talk on edge. See you guys later.
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