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Desperate Measures, Behind the scenes with Boruch Perlowitz
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Go behind the scenes with Director Boruch Perlowitz and follow the production of Desperate Measures. In this interview, Boruch will go through what inspired him to film this story, the challenges of production and how the film ended up being the amazing success that it has become. https://www.boruchperlowitz.com/
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fbi raid 2.
barack hashem we finished this amazing
journey called desperate measures and
the final product bar hashem
is amazing this journey was crazy we had
the best cast and crew for this
and we all turned into a beautiful
family but let's go back to the
beginning
when this story all began it actually
began in yeshiva smith i was sitting
over there learning barbados and
kathleen we're going through the suggest
of
anyone is allowed to save themselves
with
anything besides the shrimp of course
and we're going through the studio over
there whether or not you're allowed to
steal fippy kuachna
and
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you're allowed to steal from because
again before doing anything ask your off
you have to pay it back but you're
allowed to steal and we were talking
about we were going through the
cigarette over there whether or not
you're allowed to force a doctor to do a
procedure in a case of picoaching fish
and you have to paint his mambatala
whatever it is but you could force a
doctor
so i remember going to my sherlock
meshev and i said
but wait even at gunpoint of course you
know how to kill him
but
forcing means forcing
and he said
and then i said this would be kind of a
crazy story for a movie
and he actually said i was too young to
remember but he said there was it's true
story like that that happened and they
actually made a film out of it
and i said
this would great make a great
film
i thought about a number of times
but although all of my films all my
productions are for entertainment
purposes only i make them for
entertainment that there should be
good
kosher high level entertainment for the
firm community i always want that there
should be a lesson in there something
people can take out of it there should
be a connection you should go
after watching a film of mine and be
like okay we just wasted two hours i
want that there should be a lesson in
there
and i always felt that could be halal
clea this is permitted
but i always wanted
that
there should be something more i never
felt if we just do a sad story that ends
up being very violent with a lot of
action
i never felt that that's something that
i want to produce
some time later i moved back to america
and i went into the field of working
with teenagers
backroom that are struggling we could
say and
in their lives i've seen so many
struggles whether it's between a father
and a son
and then very often there's
they're so
not understood and they're so judged
and there's always there's always
something over there that they're going
through be like our story over here
where yankee's mother is in a psychiatri
psychiatric facility
be it somebody sick in the family be it
some sort of trauma
they're always so misunderstood
and working with these bachram for a
number of years i always wanted to make
a film
so that we can understand the struggles
and we can understand
that between a father and a son a parent
and their child there is that true love
but sometimes it's it's just covered up
but at desperate times
that's when you see the true love
and i really wanted to make such a story
and then it occurred to me if i take the
story
of desperate measures i already called
the desperate measures way back then in
my days of meristem if i take that story
and instead of having it with your
typical mainstream bucker father and son
i would have
that merge with the story of a
struggling teen somebody that's going
through real hardships in life that we
could take a lesson out of it everybody
from desperate measures took their own
lesson out of it but we see that
struggle and we see that connection we
see that love we see to what measures
the sun is going is going to go to help
his father and we see how much love a
father actually has to his son and and
unfortunately
it doesn't
those two connections
they don't always meet
but when there's a real struggle that's
when they meet
and i decided
we're gonna go ahead and we are going to
make
desperate measures
now that we had the story in place it
was time to get everything moving
during the skull of a genius i had the
most talented makeup artist out there
mushy groomfeld and i realized that
besides for doing makeup
and being a very professional
photographer he was extremely keen
in
art he was able to tell when something
was pleasing to the eye he was able to
tell
how things
looked aesthetically and he was
extremely artsy
soon after the skull of a genius i
launched the jewish platform and i
bought him on his producer and i decided
over here for this film
i'm not only going to bring him on board
i'm going to bring him on board as
producer and cinematographer
so
we started planning the film
the first thing that i wanted is
that
we had to build the story in a way that
people really understood the struggle
both of the father that's trying to
raise his son single-handedly
with the struggles of today's days
he's
he has a son that looks different than
most kids his age and that acts
different and
he he's not your typical kid you're not
your typical from kid and he's even
getting flack from it from the neighbors
as we see
the neighbor totally comes he knocks on
the door he says the loud music and
everything
and we also see the struggle with the
son he doesn't want to fight with the
father when his father sends the kids
out the other two kids
uh jay and dovie
yankee sends them we took it a little
bit too far this time
and you guys got to go home but he's
trying to fit in so badly
so
the first thing that i did was
we started working on the amazing cast
that we have
i met jose
a couple years back
we met in the camp we were schmoozing
and
he showed a real interest in acting and
i kept up with him a couple of times
throughout the years and i realized that
he's super
super
super talented i'm not going to get much
into your saves personal life but jose
also had certain struggles as a teenager
which he was able to relate to this
story
very very well i spoke to yosef's mother
she's very very
uh talented the famous malkie ginager
and
she was in to really coach jose
throughout all this acting yosef himself
is an amazing actor
and
we cast him he was our first pick
and he did a phenomenal
phenomenal
job we'll get a little bit more to his
acting it dropped later on
in the behind the scenes he was perfect
for the role and besides his acting he
has a great voice
and he sings that beautiful song i need
you now which him and his mother
composed
of course we have to bring jacob burger
on
as
the evil doctor now the reason that we
made yaakov
into
a doctor from
jalgawa is that the country that we have
him from
um
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i didn't want people looking at
mainstream american doctors and being
like they're money hungry or whatever
even though during corona a lot of
people lose trust in the medical system
i didn't want it to be that way
therefore we decided let's turn him into
this evil doctor from some
weird evil country where dark humor is a
way of life
so we cast the eckerberg we gave him
that character
the next big pic that we had to do was
trying to find the perfect father
we decided the perfect father we wanted
somebody that's
very hasidish to kind of really really
contrast
the father and son's way of lives i
really wanted to contrast that
and it's itsy did a
superb
job with that he's he's so perfect i
know personally
um
he's
that real real loving father
but
very hasidish and that's where we see
that real conflict between the father
and son the father
is is you know calls the copays and
everything and the sons with the big
choke
and we bring out that contrast they both
did
such a phenomenal job
that when they have that scene of the
hospital
where
matas wakes up right after the heart
attack for the first time and yankee
goes over to my auntie leans over to him
and yankee is saying that he's going to
change and it feels so bad
they were both crying
matas it's sig and yankee yosef gunner
they were both crying
the entire
crew
was some of us were actually crying we
were all tearing up
where she greenfield was even over there
biting his finger
you were able to hear a pin drop
while we were filming that we all got
goosebumps they did
such a phenomenal job portraying their
characters
it's beautiful
next we bought on
salman burger
salmon burger
has been a good friend of mine for a
long time he acted in the skull of a
genius i brought him on over here for
two huge reasons first thing is i put
him on as the actor the chief of
lakewood police um the not the chief the
sergeant
and
he did a very very very good job over
there zalman happens to be a firefighter
so
yeah
i also brought him on as producer
uh not as producer as production manager
production manager and is
he he had to make sure that everything
is flying so let me explain to you we
have mushi who's cinematographer he's
the one actually holding the camera
which takes a lot of talent i'm the
director
which means usually i'm looking into my
monitor on the side over there making
sure that everything
that we see in the camera is the way i
had planned it to be
seen when i envisioned it in my head and
then we have salman berger who is making
sure that everything on set runs
smoothly
close up right now we're going to get
the very close up scene close up yeah
close close close scene you ready
rolling camera
sound speed okay scene
43a
close-ups take three
focus
beautiful focus don't move around so
much okay focus a drop a drop yeah
perfect
perfect don't move around just just do
your lines without moving
okay you hurt three
two
move uh moisture you drop more to thirds
beautiful
three
two
one action
that's how you heard i want to say from
you
you move the drop any don't move your
head back forth anyway your focus is
perfect that means if you move you're
going out of focus okay three
two
one get his eye on the on the corner
perfect three two one action team
43 b
close-ups take one starting over right
no adjustments this is not possible
it's not possible
see can you see him out of the chat yeah
you're going to say shut it so pan from
each one to the next after you've got
one you want any dialogue yeah it was
that focus you can go from here to him
two
yeah look at him three two one action
it's not possible you see
wait a second a little bit
wait for a second from when he says not
possible wait for one second not too
long just so you had a second register
in your head no no so that we can move
the camera three two one action
it's not possible
you see shut it one second your gun's
blocking yourself back up and drop
perfect three two one and action it's
not possible you see
shut it yeah you gotta wait that second
okay okay
three two one action it's that possible
you see shut it
beautiful cup [ __ ] someone burger who's
making sure that everything on set runs
smoothly from the actors having their
costumes to being on time to making sure
that our sets are booked and all of that
zaman did an amazing job
oftentimes coming to my house and saying
like borrow let's go we gotta move
already because
i'm the kind of guy
that's not always on time
so salmon did a
perfect
job with that and of course a perfect
job with this acting
now
let's get back to the story over here a
little bit let's get back to the casting
over here
we have
yankee and we kept them kind of in the
center
and then we have his two friends we have
jay and we have dovie
dovey is david and guys are extremely
talented he was slowing
in the skull of a genius and he's kind
of that good friend we wanted to show
the forces of good and the forces of
evil
uh i shouldn't say evil but
the the the kind of it's a horror side
within yankee and we decided that the
best way to do that was to have his two
friends
divvy is the kid that says royal
davening for you listen bro we're all
the opening friend i'm saying yeah it
means a lot
and jay is the one
that says
um you want me to slash your uncle's
tires jay is the one that says
um
uh
guys it's literally the best thing that
could happen to us we're free now
which was not a good thing to say
but we wanted to show
the inner struggle
that yankee is having
in life and we portrayed that with his
two friends over there
jay
which is a talmud
in our yeshiva was he just graduated his
learning and heritage role now
um
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yitzy brodsky he's amazing schmack fun
and he did an amazing job portraying jay
as this
wild
crazy
want to be left alone
free
it's all good kind of guy
and he did an amazing job with that
later on we had the uncle
kerosene moscow it's the amazing garcia
moskowitz
uh garcia is just an all-around
awesome awesome person i've worked with
him
numerous times and many projects and
in this film i wanted to have an uncle a
mean uncle and that's because so many
times
teens that are struggling
have
flack not only from their
immediate family but oftentimes there's
that uncle ah throw him out of the house
i'm telling you he's going to be a bad
influence and of course
to each their own and everybody has to
ask their role their das torah
how to move ahead
how if anybody's ever going through
any power show with anybody but
we wanted to portray that not only is
yankee struggling with his own father
he has his uncle
that hates him over here and has no
interest in him when he comes to tell
him that he had a heart attack also he
finally caused your father to have a
heart attack
and he even blames him for his mother
going
crazy
so
gareshi did
an amazing job when we screened the
movie on pesach
gary she told me
he got so much hate i just want to bring
out a point
we have
we have like this we have yaakov is the
sniper that actually
shoots yankee
we have shorty stamler he does an
amazing job as tim cole the head of the
fbi
he tries he gives the order to kill
yankee we have zalman burger who
actually arrests yankee
we have the uncle
who gave yankee a thousand dollars
here you go and not another word
but there's nobody in the entire film
that is as hated
as uncle kayam
um
and we really wanted to portray that and
gareshi although he's the nicest person
in the world
he did an amazing job portraying
uncle ghayem as the mean and evil uncle
now
we had our cast we had tim cole who did
an amazing job as the head of the fbi we
had usher veter
who did an amazing job as the nurse now
people are asking
why do you have a hasidic nurse what's
going on over there first thing is yes
there are many from people that are
going for nursing today's days and there
are many from nurses believe it or not
but we wanted to show that there was
this froome nurse that was going to go
and help yankee escape from the hospital
and we wanted to show that and we
figured the best way to portray that
would be by having actually a from
high machete nurse and therefore we had
nurse shmuley
should have really been smelly but we
have nurse shmuley who should we did a
phenomenal job
over there
we move on to the sniper although it's a
tiny part we have yaakov prupus who did
a great job there
with his toothpick as a sniper
yaakov is the only one that has acted in
every one of my films and the edge he
was the terrorist right at the beginning
would
in the skull of a genius he was of
course dr skolovsky
and now
he was the sniper we have so many more
amazing cast and crew
members that we actually
recruited but let's for a second dive
into production
the first thing that we had to do was
plan and plan and plan
the second thing that we had to do
though was
how in the world are we getting a police
department how are we getting a swat
team how are we getting a hospital
so
we had lots and lots of meetings
first they had a meeting with
the lakewood
police chief head of swat head of
communications and i have to give a huge
thank you to laser heisenfeld and
bensi enzelbach
for
hooking that meeting up
the lakewood police department came
through huge giving me
um police cars the swap vehicles
tactical training and a bunch of other
stuff
for the film i do have to mention though
all the people on camera
are actually actors none of them are
real cops of course we cannot get real
cops cannot legally be
in a film
but
the lakewood police department worked
really really close with us
to help us whatever is possible also a
question a lot of people are asking
were the uniforms real were the guns
real the uniforms were real uniforms but
they were not from the lakewood police
department we got them from a uniform
store
the guns were not real guns you cannot
run around with real guns this is new
jersey not texas
but they were real replicas they were
real replica they were so crazy good
that
uh i had to actually bring them down to
the lakewood police department to get
approval to be able to use them
and when i bought it down to the police
station
uh the captain actually came out and he
looked at the guns and he said
these are real guns and i was like no
they're not and he he picked it up and
he's like this is real
and then i told him to take out the clip
the magazine is like ah
i see that it's actually not real and
same went for that sniper rifle the
barrett m82a
so it's 3 25 am
we got
the props ready
i almost got the sniper rifle there oh
my gosh
oh my gosh
what's that real
barrett
n
to
sniper rifle the scope was over there
his days initiate baskets
we had people from the actual liquid
swap on set with us they had to bring
the swat truck and everything and the
sniper for the liquid swat team said
this is the exact gun
that i have over here so
there was a lot a lot of work that went
into that tons of red tape
negotiations and everything but hashem
we were able to pull that off now we're
in the middle of a pandemic
how in the world are we getting a
hospital so
we actually got a full wing
in
kimball hospital used to be called
kimball now it has a bunch of different
names
but
in dr leibowitz's section over there and
i have to give a huge thank you to dr
leibowitz for
letting us have a ring
in the hospital
during the pandemic and right on the
other side of the door there were a lot
of patients over there we are heading
into the hospital
for our shoot today we're all messed up
because of corona
yeah what have we got here we got what
we got what do we got over here
we are all walking into the hospital for
a number of days they gave it to us and
was crazy
filming in the hospital was actually
crazy now
there was one problem
the elevators that came up two of the
elevators came right in the section that
we were filming and one of the times
that we actually had
the guns out and everything
the door of the elevator opened up and
there were two people coming out and
they didn't see the cameras and
everything all they saw was a guy
holding a gun to another guy
and for
a very short
couple of seconds
they kind of bugged out until we all
came running like no no don't worry it
is for a film
but filming in the hospital was
absolutely crazy
take two
three two one and action
one second no no no i still see a shadow
okay let's reset reset open the door
again i want this to take a little bit
longer i want it to be deeper out of the
hallway where the shack started that was
great we're going to do it one more time
what's going on over here okay you'll
see you're shutting the door a little
bit longer because i want by the time
you turn around to him i like that a lot
okay you ready
three
two
one
and action
you ready to roll
okay
three
two
one and action now now
get inside
come here one second come here
come here why she that was great come
and drive closer let's do this again
start from where you turn around guys
you got to be quiet over there it's time
now come on make it faster go
okay and then i want you to pan back to
our space because we cannot pan
um we cannot have them pulling it down
because it doesn't actually fall down on
action you put your hand with the right
arm three go back in through three two
one action
um okay you're so good to come out yeah
three
two
one action
what was that what was happening what
was that what was that
no
one's oh
come on man come on
i want you to
the first thing that we did is
we bought equipment lots of equipment
the latest equipment that we could get
our hands on because we wanted our film
to be as professional as possible
the next step was a very interesting
step that we did we had many from eden
playing characters as if they were not
jewish for example
mark uh which was played by the amazing
aria mints who did a fabulous job we had
yakov burger playing dr nimitsky we had
zalman burger playing the chief of
police and we had of course shorty
stamler playing the part of tim cole
i did not want to have
from eden
on set without yamakos we also didn't
want that it should be cheesy where
everybody's wearing caps
or weird looking shape
so what we did is we got custom made
wigs okay so we have adi vince over here
he's playing mark now
true indoors there's attention to um
not to wear a yarmulke or whatever
but anyways over here we got a special
custom toupee we got this custom-made it
has material on the inside yeah
so
it's like a couple we got a custom-made
to blend in exactly with us here and
that's what we're gonna do
wow it's a piece of material
okay okay perfect
we'll let you take this home audio when
we're done oh yeah
yeah and now we just comb it in
wow and look at this look at this come
on can i see a picture of it
wow it looks good it looks amazing
really it looks amazing all right
perfect
smoke effect there
yeah we're going to mix them perfectly
over here very perfectly very perfectly
so we're not going to see on the video
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now those wigs
look
really really good
and
besides for the one time that it fell
off of shorty's head while we were on
set because it was extremely windy
get some footage of him
whatever you
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everybody had a good time with it
the next thing that we did is we went
ahead and we got
neal neil is our sound person
um
very professional worked on many
hollywood sets
and neil was always there neil was a
great asset other than getting crisp
crystal clear sound for the entire movie
he he's been on many really large sets
so he was very informative
he stood there
with his boom
for hours and hours and hours
and it was just a lot of fun
we're getting closer to production
production is stressful it is fun it is
tense
and it's just straight out crazy
from the time that
um david anger sir won the lottery when
i with uncle look right now and he just
won
500 bucks
um
to the time
that we got all the bloopers and every
time
kai and my brother
that played hilariously
the part of security guard
production is amazing so let's start off
with some of the craziest scenes that
we've done the largest scene obviously
we did was
the one with the police and swat a scene
like that
first of all we have to get
all the police equipment the vehicles
the swat truck happens to be the swat
truck i had to leave
in the middle of filming with that
because there was a swat emergency
so we actually couldn't get all the
ticks that we wanted to because
in the middle
the swat truck just had to leave there's
a swat emergency going on
so for every cup there is the shoes the
boots
the pants the uniform pants the shirts
the badges for the sides the vest the
wall key
um there's the belt the tactical belt
with the handcuffs there's so many
details
that go into
every
single little
um
actor i shouldn't say little actor but
into every single part of the film to be
able to sell it then they were of course
getting the actors we had actors from
all over we wanted
the kind of cops that looked really cool
that would look like they were doing
their parts
we had the cops that looked like the
cops that eat their donuts
um
we had
everything over there and when of course
when it comes to the swat team we had to
get
helmets the real swap vests there was
our real swap vests the patches that say
swat
the guns of course which we got boredom
from california we had them shipped in
because they're replica weapons
now what we do is for the actual filming
day we create a shot list
exactly what we're going to shoot what
we want to see so we'll have
the wad of the police cars coming in
first please comes out we see him
running towards the hospital second
please comes out everything in an exact
detail sheet
we had of course a nice amount of
bloopers that day
especially when one of the cops guns
fell off while he was running to the
hospital three
you ready
all right
you're not walking into the hospital
you're running into that thing all right
three two one and action
falls off
don't you think he says all this stuff
you're going to stand right there on the
computer
security footage
the sniper is going to come in over your
radio right say i have a shot
now obviously filming the hospital was
extremely difficult first of all corona
in the middle of covert
and we like to wear masks obviously get
corona tested and everything beforehand
but in general
we were in a hospital
um and although we had our own
rooms so
first thing is everything is kind of
cramped in the hospital rooms and we had
to bring in our lighting equipment and
our sound equipment we had two camera
operators we had moisture greenfield as
the lead cinematographer and we bought
on irejaimowitz as a secondary camera
um
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also
up until
we actually start filming the actors
practice almost completely on their own
so what happens is once they come in we
start to bounce over each other and then
me as the director i know exactly what i
want from them and i know how i want it
to look in the camera
so what happens is on set i'll end up
telling
many of the actors i want it like this i
want it like that i'll go through with
the cinematographer
i want this kind of vibe
so we'll end up doing all of that
or have
go ahead
he needs to stay tonight tomorrow
morning
or have the hospital
right then marcus is right i'm just
right if you come up with the payments
you're gonna say or come up say well
after he says it will come with the
paper he'll need to set the tree to
cover the payment and then he says when
do i say after he said what after he
says or have i want more determination
in your voice
sickness you're safe you're safe um or
have the surgery performed
but something like that yo
filming with a big mirror in the room so
filming with the mirror in the room
makes it again very difficult because we
don't want to see any of the pretty
large crew
in the mirror but hashem
those scenes over there were so powerful
in the hospital and the connecting
between
matas and
his son yankee is beautiful
let's
we really
upped our game
in professionalism and we implemented a
certain style of filming for this film
called shaky cam you'll see many of the
scenes including the hatsuna scene where
they're working on mates and scenes like
any of the real intense
action scenes whether it's when the fbi
is
running into the place or when he comes
out when yankee comes out with the gun
when he's jumping onto the train many of
these scenes we did what we call shaky
cam where we
purposely
shake the camera very very strong now
it's done with a purpose we know exactly
where to shake the camera what direction
and exactly how to do it
but the purpose of shaky chem is
it makes
the filming feel a lot more intense if
you were at
an action scene if you read out solo
scene if you had a shooting you're
running with somebody that's jumping on
a train
there would be a lot of shaking going on
which
we incorporated in the phone so instead
of you standing on the side as an
observer
using shaky cam actually kind of goes
and brings the audience
into
the film
once production starts like i said
previously
it is crazy you never know what to
expect
we just had such an amazing cast and
crew that it was always
so much so much fun people like yaakov
burger and mushi groomfeld together
um with their just
outright fun funniness together with
heosave ginager's
um dramatic personality which kind of
bounced off of my well at times i i was
just pressured because we got to get the
set going on but at other times i just
love having fun
so
we ended up with tons of bloopers there
was there was one thing that sticks out
of my mind
when my brother caim who's the security
guard
in the film and he did an amazing job
every time he ran in
with his gun and his donut
uh we originally we had him eat a donut
as he ran in but
we finished all the donuts by the time
we got the good take
every time he ran in
joseph ginager found it extremely funny
and jose fell down and started laughing
and when them two were laughing what
happened was that everybody else ended
up laughing so
we filmed that again and again and again
three two one action kind of very
intense
everybody calm down no panic i've been
trained for this all my life
[Laughter]
is
oh
are you
[Laughter]
waiting for this for three months four
months
since 10 o'clock in the morning
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we don't have that much people but we
can award it okay
i got my finger that didn't whatever it
was beautiful though that's the most
part of it
[Laughter]
let's continue let's continue this is
great
guys
okay let's get back
around the back like
what do we have
now it's time to release some hostages
don't you think he says all this stuff
you're gonna stand right there on the
computer you have some security footage
the sniper's gonna come in over your
radio right see i haven't rolling
57 3
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37.
57 8 take 3.
thank you all for watching and let me
tell you a secret
we're going to see you at desperate
measures 2.
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