Degradation of the Generations Explained: A Talmid Asks Rabbi Reuven A Tough Question

RAB sh so I was learning this morning and he had a shil and I'm figing I'm going to ask you because M were a little bothered by it talks about those who are mentioned negatively right the previous Misha gave to people who did certain improvements of the b m now we're saying those who did bad and the m is saying that says Mish goes hard on them and then the Mish right after the first G it goes into why they didn't want to teach and they said that they were afraid that people are going to learn to serar with it and then the he switched it around to to praising them so my he asked me how can this be how can the tan who were so careful with every single word they ever said off the bat say them that they're the worst people in the world and then after some digging into it all of a sudden oh no you know what they should be recalled with phrase it not much bother how can this be and it's written forever in the mishna if somebody didn't learn the gar and they just learned the mishna it would be forever that these they they're recalled negatively thank you uh so the uh main thing you have to know is that when put together the Mish he didn't take all of the uh available teachings he took the what he believe were the main ones the rest of them remain berot and uh that you know they're still learned but not in the same capacity but that meant that the people of that generation the people of the previous generation didn't need any of this they knew all of it uh orally where each person would come to the BET mid they say the uh they uh um that they learned and then everybody would go back and forth learning that mishna and all of the different things about it sort of like uh what you have in the but even more expensive uh cuz in the previous generation then it's the time of the mishna when he actually put together the mishna itself the people of that generation when they looked at that mishna they're not like us where they need commentary uh to know what's going on just from the mishna itself they were able to already get all of the different all of the different all of the different that you know we're able to get until this day uh and needless to say the uh Next Generation where you know they saw that people are no longer capable of doing that that's when they started being meim on the actual mishna to give you all of the different things that uh you would consider and have to consider in order to get to know what is the actual bottom line meaning of so it's not that the amim you know discovered the wheel no they the wheel was already there it's just that the previous generation didn't need you to clarify it uh like the later gen generation did a uh you know certain even got to that level at later generations like for example story about the is that at the end of his days he would only study two two the the and the how could be what about M everything else he already got to app point where every single and you would know exactly every single thing that it's connected to where it's mentioned in the mid where it's mentioned in the which comes from it which s comes from it every single thing just by simply looking at the PUK he no longer needed to constantly go back and forth like you know the uh the the rest of the uh learn with uh with with certain you know the the bigger that uh they are the more that you'll see that the breath of their knowledge where you could let's say for example you know read the weekly par okay then you have to read the commentary uh the uh commentary of Unos is the uh uh was the main one but uh say also commentary of Rashi is also fulfills but either way it's a that's that's what you do so now you're reading a PUK and you read let's say I don't know PUK from uh I think it was last week's par where hem says to Moshe I am AEM so you read the okay I AEM okay so a regular person looks I AEM I am AEM thank you very much for letting me know you're AEM but I already knew but then you look at the Rashi and say well Rashi says Anem means that everything that I say is is reliable I am the one that gives reward and Punishment and he has a whole thing over there about what Anem is but then you start looking at other places so that means that when Rashi would look at that PUK he already knew everything he gave the comment on because that was part of already his is M that was part of already of his of his of his uh basic knowledge what we don't have as basic knowledge to him was basic knowledge but the uh the uh um uh further more than that he would also know the different places that's in the because Rashi also gave the commentary in he would tell you also all of the different places in the that particular Pur is uh connected to uh in all the different aspects of the uh and so on and so forth so the uh the uh tah itself has always been the same uh just that at the time of Mount sa all of Isel all they needed it was just one book they just needed the the uh the tah right from the tah they were able to just simply learning theim they were able to extrapolate every single teaching that we have available today and more all of the all of the all of the mid all of the commentary everything just by simply looking at the PUK itself that was the uh the that they had that's why they're called d the generation of knowledge was not just because they were at Mount saai was because of the the the spiritual capabilities that they had was Superior to anything that we can comprehend so just by looking at the PUK they were able to extrapolate every single one of the millions of books that we have in the world today from from from our holy tah uh now in the later generations they needed it uh you know to uh uh and you know to do that with the oral Tah to put the oral to line writing but again they only started with a part of it and then a little more part of it and a little more part of it and today we're still writing more and more books to not ReDiscover the wheel but rather to show you the wheel that was always there it's just that unfortunately we forgot about it uh you know and and we need to uh now look at it in black and white in order to uh uh in order to know that it's actually there and the difference now between let's say uh you know is and then let's say a person that that's you know learning uh is is that the that has already been doing it for 10 20 30 40 50 years when he looks at the PUK he could already tell you there many different places that you'll find this p and how many different places it's connected to how it's connected to and and the and where it is in the and even tell you different places that's in the and he could even tell you uh the the the image of the page of the G and actually how the image of the page of the looks like and which line it's on and even which uh number of word it is uh depending you know again there's the level of the we have some in the world that are just like that uh and have uh merited to uh to meet a few uh and uh it's truly a sight to behold uh because it's not it's it's from the you know it's not human knowledge it's not it's not human you know it's not something that the average human being can even think is even possible until you see it firsthand so that you're going in the same exact the same exact tradition the same exact lad that will get you to those places Wow first of all thank you re so just I want to make sure I'm on the right page I even I sent the rubs answer to just to see if I'm thinking correctly the is saying that the T certainly looked at all angles and at the end of the day in the Bas measures the feeling was that they're still didn't really do the right thing and then later on theim reviewed it and they they recall their name so I I'm C I'm curious what changed and isn't aot argue Onana if the wrote in the M that this is at the end of the day what we came to this is the conclusion we came to and they did consider all angles how come the you know a few hundred years later wherever it was fli the switch and said no they actually we're going to recall them I'm thinking maybe just the popped into the head of maybe that the tan didn't see how bad the world went and so it it wasn't a practicality that a yid would divulge The Secret of of of let's say Theus or the upon him but later that saw how evil the world became that people Mish let go of everything is that am I am I on the right page I also thought today I was listening to a and he was he mentioned again how how the T doesn't hide the negative about body or anything and I've heard the say this also you see by unlike the other fake religions World they'll never post anything that seems negative about any of their so-called Heroes the T doesn't never hide anything I thought maybe that's also another reason yeah theid thank you Reby Mish thank you unbelievable thank you Reby no no I missed that part the uh the tanim certainly uh told of of what happened at the time this is didn't happen at the time of T this happened at time of the mdash so T telling you the story where you know these people were you know were were uh rebuked and gone against initially uh but the end result when people found out the reason of why uh they did what they did then you know the this uh people understood it and they accept it but they T didn't spell out the whole story they just told you this is remember this this is the story that happened you know when these people had these specific jobs of making the let's say the and they had their own way and uh they didn't want to dis disclose it to anybody else and people thought that it was because of money but they found out that it has nothing to uh to do with money it's something else uh but they didn't spill out all of this they just simply said these this is what happened uh this is what happened that was enough for people to know the rest of the story the rest of the story it's like for example when you take notes on on on you don't write every word that I say you write sometimes three four five words that's enough to remind you of the entire story that's in essence the equivalent so I'm I'm learning now on the is going through a whole bunch of about shus that people doesn't say who asked elzar you think who we talk about who's this p and then we said we have that's saying they were asking about the about and then it says we asked the shepherd the Lion's attacking who's the saving what does this mean and then it says we're talking about the lamb over here is B her husband urya is the shepherd and was the LI just if we didn't have commentary like the brother saying that that tan knew so much more than us and they they they saw the whole picture from just a small little wording and me when I'm learning this gamarra and I'm like what's going on or who's this Shepherd who's this Lon what's just this this Mish uh the fact that the r just answered the shot in this way and the gar is showing me exactly how it is unbelievable wow thank you re thank you for amen amen