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[chant]
>> GOOD
MORNING BOYS,
>> [screaming]
>> I
WOW.
THERE'S SUCH ENERGY IN THE ROOM. It's
unbelievable. It's Koiach.
I needed to wake up. You know what I
mean? I'm like half asleep these days.
Unbelievable. All right.
Live
from Lakewood, New Jersey, the city that
I was born in.
My father is a Zang Azunt. Learn to read
in Yeshiva.
It's unbelievable.
I'm coming from my sister's house. And
she's making a house in the now.
That's why I'm wearing a much of Shabbos
tie.
It's not much of Shabbos. That's why my
hat's here.
I don't want anybody to be cautious of
the shalom.
I'm not going to go off yet. Don't
worry.
So, I do have to go back. I snuck out.
Just made that family picture, you know
what I mean? And then
out.
So, thank you so much for having me.
It's amazing. My mom is amazing. Such a
530 people signed up to come tonight. To
sign up. And that's in Lakewood when the
people don't sign up. They just show up.
Who here
actually signed up?
It's like uh 3/4. The rest?
Very good. Wow. We got talking in the
house. Unbelievable.
A lot of a lot of the have very nice
here.
Koiach. First of all, I want to say
thank you to Aaron Hirsch for putting
this all together. He's right over here.
>> [applause]
>> And Yos- Yossi
Krone, right? Yossi Krone. Who else?
Who else am I supposed to say thank you
to?
To this guy. What's your name?
This is Liner.
Simcha's brother?
No, for real?
Let's go. Let's hear a nigan. You must
have a good voice.
You must have a beautiful voice.
Has to be.
Who's the one over there, by the way?
The father or the mother?
Both have a good voice. That's what
makes it. Ah.
Okay.
You should say we have a voice that we
have in the house. We have Yossi Klein,
our CEO.
Unbelievable.
Shulman, right? I like him.
Maier?
>> [laughter]
>> Not Maier. Maier.
Yeah, I didn't know. But you should tell
me, no.
It's in the slides. Let's see.
But I remember the name. That's That's
wow. Here we go. Tonight's event is
sponsored by Maier and Chaya Rifka
Fischel.
Wow. Thank you. I didn't see this. In
honor of Reb Velvel that occasion of his
serious neffish to giving the daf every
single day.
Wow. Thank you so much.
You know, I scared the oil on last
night. It wasn't so nice. I wanted to
drive home a point. I said something
about you know the machla, whatever.
But I I didn't say I told the oil on
afterwards and I told the guys in in the
English here that
even though it was a very Thursday
night, it's going to go down as one of
the
top hardest days.
But I saw a mom and she had a sham in so
many different things. I One day I'll go
into it. The what We got a sham Did I
tell you about my suit?
No, I didn't tell you about my suit.
When I I had to buy I thought I had to
buy a hat. This is the new hat.
I bought this tie.
I thought I had to buy a suit. My suit
wasn't
I come to the fur coat. I open up my
my uh
trolley, whatever it's called. You know,
the carry-on luggage
that I have all my camera stuff in the
and my
my suit pants are in there.
For I've never put my suit pants ever in
my thing. But this time it was like
flying around in the big suitcase. So, I
wanted it to not get wrinkled. So, I
folded it up, put it in my trolley. And
my
weekday jacket I sent to the cleaners.
So, I had to wear the Shabbos So, I had
a suit. It was mom and
It's like a kiss for a little little
kiss from a sham even the ace aura. But
I'm telling you, it's not an aura. For
me, I take it as literally one of the
best days of my life. Be honest.
I'm not just saying it to
I really feel it.
When I could you spoke it gives you a
zetz, a real zetz.
But it's not It's not It's not health
related. And it's not your children. And
it's not It's mom and she brought her.
Cuz you have to get a zetz. Everybody
gets zetzes. So, the question is how
we're but I saw that I was able I could
you spoke it gave me koiach to go
through the night and give a sheer in
the morning
to sheer in the middle of the night.
Everybody can do it. Be honest,
everybody can do it. And it's just a
mussar haskel for everybody.
So, I just thought I would share that.
Reb boys, I
um
Who
Who drove very far to get here? Anybody?
Where do you guys come from?
New Square. I like that one. That's
good.
How far away is New Square?
Hour 45. Passaic is how far away?
Hour. Who else?
Brooklyn.
Very cool. You in the back?
How far away is that?
2 hours. You?
Monsey. Vanoch?
Monsey Monsey. You guys?
Monsey. Oh, where are the guys from
Mountaindale? Anybody in Mountaindale?
What's the name of the Yeshiva? Where?
Who?
You're in the Yeshiva there?
The Yeshiva just came over to me at the
house in the now.
You guys are actually doing the daf?
Every day? Stand up a second.
Wow. Oh, MDY swag.
>> [applause]
>> So, you're in Yeshiva and you do the
daf. Very proud of you.
Tell Mr. Yeshiva to put a screen up. It
should be official for the whole
Yeshiva. They should all enjoy, not only
you guys.
Shmack. Who else?
Staten Island's in the house.
Wow.
Okay, everybody that's watching this
sheer at home, you just got a little
dizzy.
That's Simcha Liner's brother on the
on the video. It's his fault.
All right. Vanoch?
Who else?
Where are you guys from?
Williamsburg. STAND UP, WILLIAMSBURG.
>> [laughter]
>> SHMACK.
MAIER, where do you live?
You live in Lakewood? Wow. You didn't
always live in Lakewood, right?
Okay. Schmack.
Fine. What's noch?
Anything else you want to talk about?
Hold on. I know you love sponsorships.
We'll get there in a second.
All the lunishmas of Rashi Rashi
Mordechai. Check this out. This is a
picture. So, somebody came to the sheer
last night. Oh, it was unbelievable.
But you guys sing it better than them.
But last night was amazing. The energy.
So, this this individual has this
hanging on his wall. And who is it? This
is my Zayde.
Right over here. Oops. The one with the
black hat, the shiny black velvet hat.
The maiseh was ganz key. He has a hydrus
point of my Zayde. And that right next
to him is Reb Yisroel Belsky, the famous
Reb Yisroel Belsky.
Um what else I want I wanted to show you
this last night in the sheer. The
chassidus I learned from a hekesh. And
then I take a hekesh and I learn from
the chassidus to oilam. That's too far
away. The oilam is over here.
Hekesh to the chassidus. And from the
chassidus to the oilam. I just saw one
of the editors go like this.
It's going to be tomorrow be'ezras
Hashem and they're thinking, "Okay."
We'll let them worry about it.
Schmack. What else do we have here?
How incredible this guy is going around
every day all over New York to making
sure
uh Yiddish kinder have an essen in
prison. On the way he's doing the daf.
You could see the prison in the
background, actually.
That's a prison, I guess. What?
Fishkill. That's a terrible name for a
prison.
Fishkill Correctional Facility.
Uh
It was great seeing you last night and
five times I've been talking to you.
Just wanted to let you know that your
article last week about satellite
locations watching your daf resonated
with me when I was in Gibraltar a few
months ago. I was there with my wife and
son and experienced how serious young
boys The maiseh they have of a
a satellite location in Gibraltar.
Um
You didn't to have a large screen.
Shkoyach for running through the screen.
Next time you do that, you got to duck.
Hope to be a maskil Russia this coming
shabbos and look forward to hearing the
daf in Ohel Yaakov community together
with a group of baalei batim committed
to daily daf thanks to your initiatives.
Harry Meyer, bas noch.
Um
I can't tell you how many people tell me
they only listen
to the emails. I'm not joking. I I hear
it at least twice a week. Like, they're
that good? Yeah, yeah, gives me a lot of
chizuk.
Yaakov Shore
I'm
a dedicated talmid learning daily since
Sanhedrin '89. I'm a yungerman in BMG.
His name is Yaakov Shore. Not a made-up
email. I'm a yungerman in BMG, but I
still manage to have time to do the daf
baruch Hashem. I would really have liked
to see you in person in Toms River.
However, I'm committed to learning
nights either in kollel. Therefore, with
a heavy heart, I'll be forced to miss
the shiur. Incidentally, I booked a
flight to Israel a few months ago,
thinking that I'd be zocheh to see you
during a live shiur. To my luck, the
dates are January 11th, the same week as
the shabbaton in the States. Oh, well.
Hopefully, I'll be zocheh sometime. Of
course, you changed my life and all that
blah blah blah blah, but I'm trying to
keep it short.
Dear yungelight, he's not the first one
from BMG that said he does the daf with
us.
It's interesting. I I think I said this
and I'm going to say it again.
In Eretz Yisrael,
it's a lot easier for talmidei chachamim
and roshei yeshivos to come over to me
and say that they do the daf with me
every day.
This uh the mashgiach from Mitzei came
over to me what what what
I do the daf it's the first thing I do.
Like, no bushah, nothing. Over here in
America, when a yeshiva watches my daf,
he tells me
I mean, once in a while, you know.
So, no no no, every day? Yeah, yeah,
every day.
Um okay.
I think that's enough for now.
This is also interesting cuz it's also
from jail or something. I don't know
what this is.
I've been trying to get my email read
for a very long time and there's no way
you won't share this. I literally rushed
home from shul after shabbos. I guess
he's not in jail.
Said and I I know what it is. It's more
like uh house arrest, I think. Said
hello to all my family, went straight to
my son's hockey practice. Being from
Chicago, you have to be impressed with
this. Rebbi, in all seriousness, I've
never been so committed to Torah the way
you've got me committed.
I was in tears just like you when you
told the story about the gentleman
playing guitar every night and
sacrificing that for Torah.
If that doesn't motivate people, then I
don't know what will. Please pray for my
freedom so I'll be with Hashem's help be
able to visit you and learn in person
with you soon. Yeshua Reuven ben Yehudit
Tamar.
I don't know if I should read his his
name. Okay.
I think it's shown.
Fine.
Rebbetzin, I we have a chasan in the
go-to. This month's sponsor by David
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When did he get married? Today?
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RH 22
Dr. Mark Dr. Mark Berkowitz in honor of
Reb Elly for making sure no matter what
challenges he may face, we never miss a
daf. Tzvi Hersh Medetsky, thank you Reb
Elly for inspiring talmidim and rabbanim
of Darchei Torah Middle School. Uh today
I had a zechus, I went to Darchei Torah.
It's a school with 3,000
Hi, shalom aleichem Dr. Weitz.
3,000 talmidim.
I went to that school when I was a kid.
Darchei Torah Rebbi Bender's uh cheder,
yeshiva, whatever they call it here in
America. And they've been asking me to
speak for a while.
As a kares haTorah, I felt I had to do
it even though I wasn't really
you know, thank you.
And
uh so I spoke to the boys. It was very
nice. Not 3,000 of them. The the older
grades, whatever.
Beautiful, beautiful stuff. Great
yeshiva.
Dovi Dembitzer might be the best yeshiva
in the world, even. I don't know. One of
them. Dovi Dembitzer l'ilui nishmas
ha'bachur Wow, ha'bachur Yisrael ben
Meir His yartzeit was this past shabbos.
Avital Akilov l'ilui nishmas my
grandfather Avraham ben Tova My birthday
falls on his yartzeit.
Mazel tov to you. L'ilui nishmas my dear
friend Boruch ben Rosa A caring soul
gone too soon. Yehi zichro baruch gan
Eden. Amen. And MDY Art
Refuah shleimah of Yonatan ben Bracha
and refuah shleimah of Rivka bas Esther
the first Ayala Daniel Zev ben Ayala
Esther Yossi, you have anything you want
me to say?
Think, think.
Shabbaton something? Gemaras? You always
have something, you know.
A lot.
Got it.
Um oh,
I'm supposed to say a lot of Zeitlin.
Not that I'm supposed to. I said I'm
going to say Where are the Zeitlin boys?
I saw them before. Get over here. Get
over here. Come, come, come.
This is gishmak stuff, Rebbetzin. You're
going to you're going to be in the
spotlight. Watch Just watch the camera.
Oh, come, come. Get over here.
Awesome. What's your name?
Hunter Zeitlin. And your name?
What? Spencer? Spencer and Hunter. What
are your Jewish names? What's your name?
Hillel?
Shalom. [snorts] Where do you guys live?
West Hempstead. And your dad's name is?
Saul? Shawn?
Shawn Tzadik Melech. And how do you How
do you How do you say refuah shleimah
for him? We daven for him. What's his
full name? Do you know?
Tzadik Melech ben Etha
Fagel.
So, your dad
is in need of refuah shleimah.
And you guys sit and you do the daf with
him? Both of you?
Every day?
Is it vachin?
Harav Zev Wachman and you?
No way.
Really?
Real good stuff. So, hold on.
>> [applause]
>> You like it? Here, come, come.
It's good? You like it?
>> [applause]
>> Uh really? So, you you must be the best
in gemara in your class, for sure.
Uh you're also
the charts help. Yeah.
And one minute, so your dad and your dad
does it every day?
Tries?
I saw you guys saw some pictures you're
doing it like 1:00 in the morning, 2:00
in the morning?
You guys hear him?
He said there's no phones in camp. He
had to do it like 1:00 in the morning,
2:00 in the morning. Unbelievable, boys.
I really applaud Thank you so much for
coming, really.
You're an inspiration. Thank you. Hey,
send regards to your dad.
Refuah shleimah.
Unbelievable.
Gave me a chizuk. Gave me a chizuk this
thing. Wow.
I'm mamish pumped. The energy is
unbelievable. Huh? How you doing?
Stand up for a second. Dah lem, we have
to give him a shkoyach. He is the Stand
up. Stand up.
Mr. Merch Man, we'll call him.
>> [applause]
>> All the merch. That sweatshirt you're
wearing is because of him. Shkoyach.
Okay.
Uh we have a super super interesting
daf. And I mean interesting because
it's so simple,
but when you if you were to read it and
you don't have a gemara,
it it could it looks confusing, but the
whole shiur is basically 1 minute. And
then it just repeats itself 16 times.
I might be exaggerating a little bit,
but you'll see what I'm talking about.
It's
This is the daf
that tells you for the rest of shas
if you learn something, if you learn
B from A,
now you have B. You learned it from A.
Now, what do you do? Could you continue
teaching stuff with it?
There's a difference.
Here, let's do this for a second.
There's four types of limudim in the
Torah. There's hekesh.
What's a hekesh?
A hekesh is when you have
two psukim next to each other.
One pasuk says a halacha.
I'm going to lose everybody already. The
dah lem's going to What's going on?
The screen. The screen Oh, that's my
That's my thing. Okay.
Why is this screen halfway cut on mine
also?
Mhm.
Okay, whatever. Don't worry about it.
As long as you see the screen of Shava,
it's good.
Shava is stronger than a Hekesh anyway.
It doesn't matter.
Yesterday you said Hekesh is stronger,
but the question is
Let's see in a second. You're right.
Both the Hekesh and the Shava are almost
like It's like as if it said in the
Pasuk.
Then we have a Kal V'Chomer. What's
Shava? Let's go back. Shava is if you
have the same exact word in two
different They could be in different
parts of the Torah completely.
Same exact words. You can't make it up.
This comes from
directly to Rabbeinu.
Then you have a Kal V'Chomer that you
can make up. That's logic. This is Kal.
This is Chomer.
And then you have Binyan Av.
Binyan Av.
Binyan Av means Mem U'Matzil.
I find a over here.
Let's Let's use the somewhere else. Why
not?
Looks right.
No reason why not to.
Now, just to give you an example, we had
this yesterday, so let's start with that
example.
The Torah says a certain
by one particular thing, by Par Kohain
Gadol. Okay, no trauma side. No
Don't go out on me now.
If you know this, if you could listen
for 60 seconds, you know today's Daf.
The Torah says the one time by Par
Kohain Gadol.
But I learn it to another Par. A
different Par. Par Helem Davar.
How do I learn it? With the Hekesh.
They're next to each other. So, if I
have it by A, I'm going to do it by B. I
have it by the red, I'm going to do the
same by the green.
Now, once I have it by the green, by the
Hekesh, by the Par Helem Davar,
can I go on and teach something else
from it? Could I pretend that the green,
the middle one, the Par Helem Davar is
its own source?
And now I'm going to teach other things
in the Torah.
Do this. Now I'm going to learn the
Soyar of
from the Par Helem Davar.
Par Helem Davar by itself is not a
source. It's learned from something
else. You have to go all the way to the
the one on the right, the Par Kohain
Gadol. Can I learn a Hekesh from a
Hekesh?
That we said yesterday. Does anybody
remember what we learned yesterday?
You cannot learn a Hekesh from a Hekesh.
It doesn't work.
Only by Very good. What's your name?
What?
Sruly? He comes everywhere. He's here
Yesterday you also remember Sruly.
Well, you just find out where I'm going
and you follow me.
Sruly, stand up for a second. Just for a
second. Say
to the world.
So, Sruly said a very true thing that
this idea that you can't learn a Hekesh
from a Hekesh is only in
Only in Zvachim,
in Kodshim. But the rest of the Torah
and it's important that he's saying it
because we're going to actually talk
about it.
The rest of the Torah you could learn a
Hekesh from a Hekesh. Great.
Let me show you a quick video
that makes no sense to me yet.
It's just for entertainment purposes
only. I'm serious. This is
to give you guys cuz you guys behaved so
well for that minute. That's the whole
shear, by the way.
Look.
All you need to do is take this. Instead
of putting You see the two arrows?
Hekesh Hekesh. The whole shear is going
to be Shava Shava. Shava Hekesh. Hekesh
Shava. Kal V'Chomer Hekesh.
Hekesh
Binyan Av. The 16
possibilities. Why?
Cuz we have
four Limudim.
And we want to know could a When you
look at Hekesh,
on Hekesh we're going to have four
This four
possibilities with a Hekesh. What are
the four possibilities?
Learning a Hekesh from a Hekesh.
Learning a Shava from a Hekesh. Learning
a Kal V'Chomer from a Hekesh. And
learning
a Binyan Av from a Hekesh. And then we
go to Shava. Can you learn a Shava from
a Shava? Can you learn a Kal V'Chomer
from a Shava? Can you learn a
And you get it. It's another four. And
then we go down the line and it's going
to look something like this.
That's the whole shear today and
tomorrow.
Good luck.
You see that's the That's the whole
thing.
We're going to start with Hekesh.
And can a Hekesh Can you learn a Hekesh
from a Hekesh? What's the answer?
No. Can you learn a Shava from a Hekesh?
No. Can you learn a Kal V'Chomer from a
Hekesh?
How about a Binyan Av?
We don't know.
No.
How about Shava from a Shava? Go down to
the next line. From Shava. Can you learn
a Hekesh?
One person says yes, the other one says
I don't know.
Can you learn a Shava from a Shava?
Kal V'Chomer from a Shava?
A Binyan Av from a Shava?
I don't know.
What about a Kal V'Chomer? Could you
learn a Hekesh from a Kal V'Chomer?
A Shava from a Kal V'Chomer?
A Kal V'Chomer from a Kal V'Chomer?
And a Binyan Av from a Kal V'Chomer?
Have a wonderful day. That was the whole
shear, seriously. Okay, fine. We'll do
it inside. To be Yotzei Shain.
Doctor of the Gemara. We're holding by
Mem Tes Amud Bais. 18 lines from the
bottom. 15 lines from the bottom. 2 4 6
8 10 12 13 lines from the bottom.
Mhm.
You don't have it?
You don't have it in print? Let's skip
it.
Oh, I was about to show you this.
Okay, listen. I'll tell you what.
If all the guys that don't have it
behave nicely and you pretend you're
listening, maybe we should put it on the
screen. Is there a way to put the Daf on
the screen?
No. Zoom in on somebody's Gemara and
just then put it on the screen anyway. I
don't know.
Okay.
Hekesh U'Gzeirah Shava Kal V'Chomer
U'Binyan Av.
That's the title of today's Gemara. And
here it is. It's actually in print.
Hekesh Shava Kal V'Chomer Binyan Av.
Siman.
Davar Halomed B'Hekesh Ein Chozer
U'Melamed B'Hekesh. We said yesterday
you cannot learn a Hekesh from a Hekesh.
Eima D'Rava, Eima D'Ravina. The whole
Sugya we're going to be quoting
either Rava or Ravina. Either Abaye or
Ravina.
The Gemara is going to It's just the
name of the The that you don't learn a
Hekesh from a Hekesh is called Rava and
Ravina.
Just to remind what's Rava and Ravina.
Where's Rava? Here's Rava. This is The
one I just showed you is Rava. Right?
Rava. Rava says you cannot learn a
Hekesh from a Hekesh. Why? I It looks It
looks like you could learn a Hekesh from
a Hekesh. So, if you remember yesterday,
whoever saw shear yesterday,
there's a special Pasuk K'She Yuram
tells me that I can learn this Limud
without the special words in the Pasuk
K'She Yuram, I wouldn't be able to learn
a Hekesh from a Hekesh. So, you see
that you cannot learn a Hekesh from a
Hekesh. It's only because K'She Yuram
makes the center one Par Helem Davar
K'Ilu, as if it's a source.
That's why I could continue from the
green one and learn out because it's a
source. It's as if it says in the first
in the Torah.
What's Ravina? Same thing.
By the way, I'm going to start picking
up paces. You You know, once we get into
it, it's just repetitive almost.
Ravina says the same thing. It's just a
different type of chart. Yoshi the side
and even though this is prettier than
the previous one, it's not as clear. So,
we went with the clear.
Is a Hekesh from a Hekesh? Here we go.
The The whole Sugya about how do you
learn the Asham should be in the Tzafon.
Remember? The Asham has to be in the
north.
How do I know it? From who teaches the
who teaches the Asham. So, the Hekesh
from a Hekesh.
And that does not work.
Okay, great. So,
you put them together. You have both
Ravina and Rava both say a Hekesh to a
Hekesh doesn't work. Next.
Oh. Let me show you this video real
quickly because I I don't know where to
show it. Okay?
I got lost. You'll get lost also. We're
stuck here.
WE CAN'T GO UP.
>> [groaning]
>> I CANNOT LEARN from it.
Hold on tight.
Woohoo! Faster! Faster! I need to find a
way to balance this.
Troll.
>> [groaning]
>> It's easy. Sure, we can do it easily.
It's not easy. It's hard.
Okay. You heard Now you understood the
whole Sugya.
Says the Gemara.
Now,
Davar Halomed B'Hekesh Mashu She Ein
Melamed B'Gzeirah Shava. we're going to
go back to that chart just real quickly
cuz you did so well on it.
We're holding in the top line hekesh.
Can a hekesh
once you have a hekesh, could you learn
a gezeirah shavah from it? What's the
answer?
Gezeirah shavah from a hekesh? No.
Oh, so there are a few halachas we're
going to learn today that we never knew
about
this idea that
when you have tzaraas
on your beged, you have a nega, you have
a a blemish all of a sudden your
clothes, you're wearing a coat all of a
sudden there's a red something
that's that's a problem. But what if
your entire beged turns the same color?
tahor
You better not be listening to, you know
>> [snorts]
>> Dover Halacha B'Halacha
he sent one of his undercover guys to
upset me in the middle of a shiur.
Mainly it's an Indian.
Dover Halacha B'Halacha
A guy called my a a Rosh Yeshiva came
over to me today at the chuppah. He had
something very special to tell me. He
says, "Listen,
I was in Brooklyn and a Chassidishe guy
comes over to me and says,
You know and he and this Rosh Yeshiva
tells me, I love the way you fool your
guys.
This guy comes over to me and says,
You know Stefans Stefansky's mana rebbe,
Chaim Kanievsky's rebbe, Ezman rebbe.
You fooled him that you're an anav. So,
then how? He says, Cuz there was a guy
in the middle of a shiur that was
playing with Sruly Bornstein
and you said to him in the middle of a
shiur,
Oh, you you're probably listening to the
Get Real pshat. So, the charayah that
you're an anav. He says, Look how you
fooled him. He says, Oh, you're so good
at it.
>> [snorts]
>> You?
Get out. I'm not
All right. So, were you really listening
to them?
Somebody is some of you Okay.
He's It wasn't you. Okay, good. At least
you're here.
Where was I holding? Oh.
So, listen to this.
Minayin l'fi b'godim she'b'tahor. How do
you know if the entire beged turns
color? Like this, it goes fast. Our boys
say, "If you blink, you're going to miss
it." The guy has a little I'm just going
to tell you real quickly so you know
what to look for. He has like a red
splotch on his shoulder. That's the
tzaraas.
You see it? Oh, on his chest. Right over
there. Oh, oh, oh. Let me turn around.
That's pri tahor.
When the whole thing turns one color.
She How do you know it's tahor?
I thought about an interesting thing.
You know that by Rosh Hashanah
we had a great I thought it was a great
idea.
Dover Halacha likes to shmooze sometimes
in shul.
A little bit you know, here and there.
So, but it's very hard to to encourage
people to take upon themselves a
kabbalah not to talk in shul. You know,
the faster the rebbe like to fast. So,
the idea was
not to talk during kaddish.
Just not kaddish. How how many times
kaddishim if you if you're Ashkenazi. If
you're Sefardi, it's the whole davening.
But what if you're
if you're
Ashkenazi
three kaddishim. No, you could control
yourself for 2 minutes each kaddish.
So, we went just not during kaddish. So,
the shul in Ramat in Ramat Dalet.
It's not Ramat Ramat Dalet.
They came to tell me that because of
this initiative the entire shul accepted
upon themselves
not to talk during kaddish.
So, I told them, I said, "Listen, we
have a problem. I would recommend that
you have at least one guy that talks
during kaddish.
So, like this at least, you know, you're
not talking to the guy that talks.
But if everybody doesn't talk during
kaddish, it's not a chachma, you know
what I mean?
Oh, you guys don't get it. You're like,
what?
I was joking, yeah.
So, over here also, that I just
remembered it here.
When when you have a beged and a lot of
it is is tzaraas and tzaraas, but if the
entire thing becomes tzaraas, that's not
tzaraas. Then that's a new color. Then
it's color then it's a red red clothing
instead of Oh, you shmock. He put the
gemara up there.
You guys are unbelievable. But what? It
looks good to me.
Okay.
By what?
The recording.
Ah, okay. They know how to take it off
probably.
Zog the gemara. We're almost done with
this olam anyway.
So, let me just show you how it goes
real quickly.
Again, the details are not as important
as the the the concept. The concept is
it says in the Torah this idea that you
get the entire body gets tzaraas. We're
going to learn from there to the head.
And that's a hekesh. And then from the
head we're going to go to clothing in
gezeirah shavah.
And that works. So, what do you see from
here? That gezeirah shavah you could
learn gezeirah shavah after you do a
hekesh.
That's the whole thing.
So, let's see inside.
So, mala halon porach b'chulai tahor, if
the entire body it becomes one color,
you're tahor.
Af kan by clothing porach b'chulai tahor
the entire thing becomes one color,
you're tahor. V'as min alon. And how do
you know?
By the
whole body that it's tahor. D'chtiv me
rosho v'ad raglav. And that I learn from
a hekesh.
The Israel's rosho v'ad regel I I learn
from a head the head to the foot. Mala
halon porach b'chulai tahor, af kan
porach b'chulai tahor.
By the way, karachas, what does karachas
mean in in Hebrew, you know?
It means a bald bald head. But in in the
Torah karachas means in the back.
Gabachas means in the front. When it
comes to clothing, karachas is old like
the back. Gabachas is a new kind of
clothing. Okay.
Not important for now.
Al k'ponim, says the gemara. Omer Rebbi
Yochanan. And that's what What's his
name again? Sruly? What was his name?
This guy next to you.
Shulem. What was his name? Sruly? So,
what's Sruly? Gevaldig.
Omer Rebbi Yochanan b'chulai tahor kulo
l'meidin l'meidin l'meidin.
The entire Torah you could learn a
hekesh from a hekesh, gezeirah shavah
from a gezeirah shavah. It's not a
problem. Chutz min ha'kodshim. Only in
kodshim you can't say ein dolin l'meidin
l'meidin. And I'll prove it to you.
Dimkein, l'meidin l'meidin tzafona
b'asham. V'teiseiv gezeirah shavah. This
is we had yesterday. Nothing serious.
Our boys say, "Don't get excited." The
whole sugya that we had about
the northern part of the azarah. So,
here's the mizbei'ach. And the northern
part of the azarah is from the
mizbei'ach north north north here like
in the green box.
So, says the gemara.
It's not showing? Here. So, instead of
gemara, could you show? Ah, ya ya
chaval.
But they missed the whole animation.
Okay.
We're not going to show it.
No.
Dimkein
l'meidin l'meidin tzafona b'asham. It
shouldn't say they have to they have to
do the shchitah in the north by asham.
V'teiseiv gezeirah shavah, the kodshei
kodshim chatoyis. It's only a problem by
kodshim. Otherwise I could learn it. You
see that you don't you don't learn it
for asham.
But the rest of the Torah you could.
L'fi l'meimra d'Dover Halacha B'Halacha
ein chulin l'meidin gezeirah shavah.
That's
Our boys say that's only What do you
bring In other words, the gemara is
asking, "What do you bring me a raya
from tzaraas? Tzaraas is not kodshim.
Okay, very good. Since tzaraas we just
saw that you could learn a
a hekesh, I'm sorry, a gezeirah shavah
after a hekesh, yeah?
This is okay, yeah? Is it showing on the
screen?
This.
Showing?
That's because tzaraas is not kodshim.
What's kodshim? A carbon. Not tzaraas.
So, don't bring me a raya from this.
Okay.
Says the gemara.
V'dilma mishum d'chulin miprach mala
chada she'kein m'chaber l'chayavei
krisus.
But also the reason may be that we're
not learning asham from a chatas from an
oilah two steps away, even though it's
kodshim, because chatas is special that
has the power to forgive for krisus.
Says the gemara, No.
You know when you You know how when you
have a gezeirah shavah, our boys say,
"Riddle." You have a gezeirah shavah.
Are you permitted to shlug it up? Are
you allowed to say, "Well, it's not a
good gezeirah shavah because this and
this is different about it."
Huh?
You can't?
Yeah. Very good.
Some of you knew the answer, some of you
didn't. So, it's a good thing you're
here tonight.
The answer is depends. Sometimes you
could, sometimes you can't. If it's
mufna
if there's an extra word
in both both places
the the the what you're learning from
and what you're teaching from have an
extra word, then you can never break it.
But if if it doesn't have extra word,
then you could you could throw out a
a pircha. We just did a pircha. You know
what? You know why you can't learn from
chatas? Cuz chatas has a power of
forgiving a krisus.
So, says the gemara,
Oh. Kodshei kodshim ya'tir echad shivi.
No, no, no. There's extra words here.
Here, look at them. It says Kodesh
Kodashim three times.
Yeah, could I get it? Thank you.
And my mail law
since it says three times there are
extra words here. And once there's extra
words in this Shavuot, there's no I
cannot say, "Oh." And so what's the
reason I cannot learn from
an which I learned from
because in them you cannot learn a from
a word.
So I think tomorrow.
And
now we're going back to our chart. Here
we are. We number three on the list.
What is what's the third thing on the
top? We're trying to learn out if I
already have a can I learn out a
word?
What's the answer?
Yes.
How do I know?
Last words on the base and then all of
you should have the
the printout.
So you want to learn more?
With the honor of the day of
that's it. That's the end of the for
that. What does that mean? I shall show
you.
We had the
we had a from
the of
of
and so
from a
we went and we learned the
so what do you see? The ones you have a
word
you have a and I'm going to remind you
what we learned.
We learned these three
as
the what?
That if you have a boo-boo on your
finger, you have a little bit of a word
or whatever a a blister I should say
and you dunk your finger for the for the
for the
it's
it's it's fine.
For the yeah.
And then we also had the other that the
has to be full of blood enough blood.
You can't add later. It has to come
straight from the animal.
For the for the
and also you cannot smear your finger
around like this and get blood. You have
to dunk it. It has to be a dunk. As but
and that's from a
after we
uh
word.
So
what do we have left?
We have to find out
can we do a
from a word?
That's the last thing.
So here we go.
Top line on the noon.
If I learn something from a can I learn
out If I learn something from a can I go
ahead and teach a
a word? It's a very simple
the way I find out over here. Let's take
the and apply it over there.
I want to be a male.
I want to find out about some
Don't say the of let me show it to you
now again.
Why not? Here, can we show it on the
screen?
Not this.
Start from here.
Cuz in case there's somebody that's
never been to this year see the
technology that we have. This is all
done in house. Every part of this
was designed and draw drawn by one of
our guys that
we hired him just for
stuff.
And we're going to have more and more.
So this is the
the end of the word.
And this green box is from the end of
the to the end of the that's called the
northern part of the according to
everybody. According to Rebbe, it also
includes the blue box and according to
Rebbe it only includes the purple and
the green. According to Rebbe, it
includes the purple, green, and blue.
Great. I call them Why do I need a
special by we discussed it a second ago.
I
can learn from Now, how do I know
from law?
But a should be fine.
So why does the write it by they have to
be in the north? Well, maybe the
because once I learn
from
I cannot teach
something else from it.
I can't teach from cuz I got from law
from a word. Well, today has a very
simple question. Why do I have to go
like this? Why do I have to teach law to
and then to them? Just learn straight
directly to from the source.
What is law? My time
what's the reason you can't?
How could I learn? So you should do a
whole thing. It's a little bit long and
I don't know if I have time for all of
it. We'll start it.
I want to learn awesome from us.
Now I want to learn the that we're
holding here. Why would I learn from
law?
I cannot learn from law that it should
be in the north part of the of the of
the Why? Cuz it's law.
You have to burn the entire thing.
So I can't learn from law. So if you
you want to learn from us, you can't do
that. Why?
Because has something special.
She can
is very powerful. It has the power to be
to to forgive somebody that's over
I
can't learn awesome from us. I cannot
learn awesome from law. They say what is
that? Let's learn one from two. In other
words, why does the have to say
by law and by I should learn
just tell me the two and I'll know all
three. Which one? Let let me
know if you have the
The
law
should not say it by law. Just we should
learn it from us and how does it go
here? These two
and I'll learn
uh
a word.
I don't know what happened.
Which two out of the three over here
give a word?
A and what else?
Awesome. What about Does give a word?
Oh. On
it gives a word. So why why does the say
only two out of the three do a word? All
three do a word. Says Rashi, I say it's
so compared to the
stronger
of and
that's considered as if it does not
work.
I call
what I want to say now. So don't say it
by
and just say and and I'll learn all
three from from I'll learn from them.
Well, I don't know what
awesome and a
sorry and law.
Oh, time up. I don't know what law.
But they say
the awesome.
Well, I don't know. Sorry. I don't know
what happened. Don't say what happened.
What is the matter? What happened is
what is in the cave?
I don't know what happened. The other
two are
awesome and law.
I don't know what happened. Don't say by
and you should learn from and law. Well,
I don't know what happened.
Awesome is only by
law and is by both.
Great. Next year.
Now we're going down the line. What's
going on over there? Everything good?
Okay.
Now we're holding on the second line.
We're going to do the same thing all
over again. You guys are bored?
Such liars.
I [snorts] don't know what happened.
When you have
you learn something from
could it teach a I'm a papa. Remember
this cuz I'm not repeating it. The is
going to go back to this. It's going to
call it's going to be called the papa
law.
Besides the
email today
email today. The
the today from the mice. We we saw
yesterday mice and I'm not going to go
through it again. Mice and me is when
you have a bunch of produce. You take
10% of that produce. You give it to
yourself. You bring it to your you eat
it.
You could buy let's say you redeem. You
don't want to
so many fruit up to your so you redeem
it for money. With that money you could
buy a carbon today.
On condition that you specify in the
beginning that you're going to buy a
carbon today with it.
With the
how do I know this? How do I know I
could buy a carbon today with my with
the
doesn't mice. I could buy
with mice.
So just to show you the chart so make it
simple here.
We're holding with
a word.
Here we go.
You got it.
We learned the
from mice that what you could buy
sorry. Yeah, mice to
that you could buy with mice and money.
Now and from I'm going to go to today.
So how do I go to today with the
So what do you see? You see that you
could learn a after you learn a word.
I don't know what happened.
The same thing. Okay, and
I got from mice.
So I don't know what happened.
Mice and me
check this out.
Mice
is not them.
Mice and me is not them. From is not
them. What's them? Carbon is them. is
them. Today is them.
We said truly said that you could learn
if it's not them, you could learn a to a
word. So I'm learning from mice. What's
the problem?
So I'm a
law. It might be a problem. Why? Check
this out. Look at the box over here. At
the end of the day, we're shifting over
the source to and we're saying, "Can I
learn today from them?"
So that is
from You're right. The original one is
them.
But the second one is them. Is that okay
to learn
from them?
I don't know what happened. I don't know
what
happened.
I don't know what
>> So my middle of the Gamara stays
According to one man the omer this is
not okay to learn Torah from Islam and
And according to the other man the omer
it is okay. Why? Because the original
one is chulin and if the original one is
chulin I could learn I could continue
learning from it.
The one who doesn't understand tell me
to stop I'll repeat.
We're good? Going lighter?
Ah.
Yeah, but
you have to represent klal Yisrael. This
is other people are watching it. So if
I'm not if I'm not being clear you got
to tell me.
Dover al omer bigzeirah shavah ma ushi
lam bigzeirah shavah. Now can bigzeirah
shavah teach bigzeirah shavah?
Where do we say hekesh cannot teach
hekesh? But could bigzeirah shavah teach
bigzeirah shavah?
Does anybody remember what the chart
said?
That's the thing.
Let's see if you're right. Whoa, yeah.
Bigzeirah shavah teaches bigzeirah
shavah.
Omer Rebbi Meir ben Bachama Rebbi Meir
ben Bachama tanya soiles merubaches
lamano Rebbi Yochana here let me show
you the chart and then it's just poshit.
How you doing?
You know that your brother sang by my
daughter's chasunah.
Nicest he has the nicest chuppahs hands
down. No? Did he sing by your chuppah?
Or he was you
He did?
Zog die Gamara Omer Rebbi Meir ben
Bachama
Tanya soiles merubaches
Sru- Sruly Goldstein
The what's the word I'm looking for?
Photographed so many of our
get-togethers. I don't know how many.
How many do you think?
Every single one? Kimat.
Besides Lakewood last time every single
one for the last like 7 years?
How many? 6 years.
Since COVID. Unbelievable.
He's a professional photographer and
sometimes it means he has to give up a
chasunah but he doesn't care cuz he
wants to be here anyway. He gives up the
parnassah and he gives us the the
pictures for free.
Unbelievable. One day you'll make me
like some albums cuz I I sometimes I
don't even go through the pictures
there's so many.
You know what I'm talking about?
Says the Gamara like this shabbaton
dolphin. Look at this.
Do you need to make these out of soiles
soiles
fine flour?
So the Torah says it by Rebbi Yochana.
Then I have bigzeirah shavah from Rebbi
Yochana to chalois. And from chalois I
have a bigzeirah shavah to rekeekin. So
what I learn from here that what? It's
okay to make bigzeirah shavah to
bigzeirah shavah. Yossi zug mir emes.
Kenst farshtein?
Emes? Shabbos is going to go flying or
it's going to be
a headache? Huh?
No no don't tell me don't try to be nice
guy now.
This is klal Yisrael. What are you
trying?
I I see that they you're saying it's
shulchan aruch shulchan aruch.
Who here thinks Zevachim is tough?
Seriously.
Don't be embarrassed.
It's not not so bad okay.
Who thinks that chiyuris is tough?
Whoever Who did not learn chiyuris here?
That's why you don't think it's tough.
Says the Gamara yeah just so this is so
simple. Tanya soiles merubaches lamano
Rebbi Yochana shabbos soiles.
How you doing?
What's your name?
Huh?
Shmuel Yosef Gluck?
Klein. Shmuel Yosef Klein. From where
from Lakewood?
Shalom aleichem.
Lamano Rebbi Yochana soiles chalois
minayin talmud lomair chalois chalois.
We have bigzeirah shavah chalois chalois
the the same word twice. Rekeekin
minayin talmud lomair matzos matzos same
word twice. This is bigzeirah shavah
after bigzeirah shavah and it works. All
three need soiles. Omer Rebbi Nachman
ben Nachman matzos matzos chalois Gamara
dilma mafteichanu Gamara. Now if you're
just reading it it makes no sense. But
here take a look.
What he's saying is
maybe it's two separate bigzeirah
shavahs. This bigzeirah shavah chalois
from Rebbi Yochana and then we stop we
put that aside. Then there's another
bigzeirah shavah completely different.
Rekeekin from mafteichanu. We introduce
a new word mafteichanu and that's it.
Who told you that it's
bigzeirah shavah from bigzeirah shavah?
Perhaps it's two brand new bigzeirah
shavahs.
Says the Gamara
I'm just saying like lemashal if it's
your first time
doing daf yomi
it's not every daf is like this you know
what I mean? We have a lot of
This is a unique a very very unique daf.
It's once in all of shas like this this
daf.
All 16 ways and how you learn this from
this and you're supposed to remember
this by heart.
Elo mar Rava. I got to tell you a story
I'll tell you real quickly.
My brother told me the story today. I
said it once in shul. I remember he told
it to me a while ago but his neighbor in
Rockaway it's an original story so I
thought it's geshmak.
His neighbor in Far Rockaway his name is
Kramer. I don't even remember his old
man.
I don't even know if he's still alive.
Well assume he's alive why not.
He was in World War II.
And he was drafted to World War II and
he went to the Lubavitcher Rebbe and he
asked him what should I take upon myself
going to the United States Army. What do
you think the Rebbe told him?
Tefillin.
The kid sir the guy is Jewish and nobody
knows it and he has his tefillin his
phylacteries.
So he sneaks every morning gets up 4:00
in the morning before everybody gets up
and he puts on his tefillin real
quickly.
One day
he's hiding and putting on his tefillin
and all of a sudden this guy goes "Yo
Kramer what are you doing?"
He's like I'm putting on phylacteries.
I'm Jewish.
He says "You ain't no Jew.
You got no horns."
You thought you didn't have horns?
That's what they told him.
He said "No I'm Jewish."
He said
He told this to my brother. He said
"Every day they used to chap him every
single day." One day they tied his bed
up his mattress he couldn't go to sleep.
One day they put poison in his food and
the other day this every day they did
something to them.
They were in Europe and they were in the
foxholes.
Yossi you know the foxholes?
I didn't think so.
Somebody explain to them. Anyways they
dig this hole in the ground and they go
in so when they shoot they they shoot
they shoot at I.
They shoot at I they shoot at I in the
cuff farshtaist?
Shai says I've got a kiver yo we got
that on us already.
Foxhole.
Kids say they saw it's it's over like
the the missiles are they're shooting
like not shaiyach.
All of a sudden they see
hands come into the foxhole. So they
slept the hands in
and it's a guy he says
they made a a lottery who's going to go
through the shooting
and get Kramer
to put on his phylacteries to say a
prayer for for the whole unit. They want
Kramer to put on his tefillin
and daven for them.
That's what they said. And this nebach
guy he was his he he was chosen to do
it. So he crawled all the way and he got
Kramer to put on his tefillin daven for
him.
So he put on his tefillin and he said
whatever he said
and
they were saved. And he said ad hayom
hazeh people call him up from his unit
they go "Kramer my wife is having
surgery you need to put on your
phylacteries right now and say a
prayer."
Every that's what he said.
I had to tell you the maiseh cuz it has
no shaiyach to the sugya but I heard it
today.
What what do you want me to tell you a
story about matzos chalois chalois
matzos matzos?
Omer Rebbi Nachman ben Nachman matzos
matzos chalois Gamara I don't know why
we said already. Elo mar Rava.
Where are we holding? Could you do
bigzeirah shavah from bigzeirah shavah?
We just said we don't this not a good
raya because maybe it's two separate
bigzeirah shavahs. Omer Rava tanya
vekirbo ufi shoy yotzi It says you got
to take the innards the kishkes of the
animal and the waste the tsoya inside
take it out. Melamed she tziyo sholem.
Here
I have a little stickle video for you.
And these are the pieces
pieces. Okay. So says the Gamara yochal
tzu fin sholem. Maybe I'll think they
burn it whole. No no no. You saw they
cut it up in the pieces. Nemala roisha
yochrov. Nemala
roisha yochrov. It says by the kohen
gadol roisha yochrov. It says over here
by the oila roisha yochrov. Mal lan
nituach af kan nituach. Let me just show
you the the thing real quickly. Sorry
not this one.
This one.
Okay? So the same idea that we saw
before it's over and over. By oila it
says they got to break it up in the
pieces learning bigzeirah shavah to par
kohen gadol and from par kohen gadol to
Yom Kippur so what do you see? You could
do bigzeirah shavah from bigzeirah
shavah.
Mal lan nituach af kan nituach. Imal lan
behefshed af kan behefshed. Maybe you
have to take off the skin. Talmud lomair
ufi shoy.
My Talmud what does that mean? Omer
Rebbi Shimon ben Shimon kirbo kach basar
boer. Just like you don't take out the
the waste as oy it's inside the kishkes
at least
so too the meat the flesh is inside the
skin. Betanyo Rebbi Yishmael ben Nachman
oir ubasar uferesh.
Daf nun amud beis. Vinemar al oir ubasar
>> Okay, time out. Time out. Time out. Who
says sponsors?
Okay.
All you guys that say sponsors are going
to fire you now. If you know the Sugya.
You were just waiting to say sponsors.
You had no idea what I was talking
about. You were like, "Turn the page. I
I can't wait to say it."
And now I'm going to ask you a question.
What Masechta are we learning?
So, you you break you cut it up into
pieces without skinning it.
Great. So, we just learned that Exer
Shava could teach Exer Shava sponsors.
Where are the sponsors?
Who is that? Is that Ellie? Did I just
see Ellie Yeller?
Oh, it's you. You want to say the
sponsors? Yeah, read it off the thing.
Say it nice and loud.
Turning of the Daf. Nu, schnell. Nice
and loud.
>> [snorts]
>> Amazing. Amazing.
Geweldig. Okay.
Says the Gemara, Dover Halomed be Exer
Shava
So, we're finally holding over there.
By the way, I don't know if you guys
want to see it.
It's a video I didn't show yesterday. I
didn't have the the patience, but if you
guys want to see it, I'm going to show
it here. Here you go.
>> [music]
>> I didn't like it. Okay.
I didn't want to show it last night.
Decided to do with a different Sugya.
Okay, fine. Great.
I don't know.
It has nothing to do with today's Sugya.
I don't like it. Listen, if you're a
meat lover, you could appreciate it.
Says the Gemara,
>> [sighs]
>> Kavachomer uh where are we?
We're talking about we're still holding
in the Exer Shava line. Can it teach
a Kavachomer?
So, there was a Maiseh
where
Maiseh Shkima Taya, a guy wrote a whole
Sefer on Kavachomers. He came up with
his own Kavachomers.
It's a Shluntik Sefer.
So,
he he went to some Rav to eat for
Shabbos.
And the Rav the Rebbetzin [snorts]
served him soup. So, the Rav gave him a
fork to eat the soup.
So, he says, "What is this? What is
this?" He says, "Listen,
when we served you the fish before,
we gave you a
a fork.
Now, you can't eat fish with a spoon.
So, Madach fish that you can't eat with
a spoon, you could eat with a fork. So,
soup that you could eat with a spoon, a
vadi you could eat with a fork."
Says the Gemara,
So, that's a Kavachomer.
That's not a Kavachomer.
So, the Gemara answers it with a
Kavachomer. Okay? And this is very easy
cuz we have a Gishmaka simple chart here
just to show you.
And it goes like this.
Here.
Could you learn a Hekesh from a Hekesh?
That we said everybody knows. That's the
one thing we know from this whole Sugya.
Hekesh from a Hekesh you can't learn. We
also know that Exer Shava from Exer
Shava you could learn. Okay. Those are
two things we know.
But, a Kavachomer you could learn from a
Hekesh.
So, says the Gemara, so Exer Shava that
you could teach you could learn a Hekesh
from Exer Shava. You see the bottom
right corner. What does it say there?
That a Hekesh you could learn from Exer
Shava.
Oh. Oh.
That's that's what the Gemara is going
to talk about in a second. But, let's
assume that it's not a Machlokes. It's
good. So, certainly you should be able
to learn a Kavachomer from Exer Shava.
Yossi Klein, please repeat.
It's 1 hour already?
Uh and I have to go back to the Chasan.
Okay. Noch a Mol.
A Hekesh from a Hekesh you can't learn.
But, a Kavachomer from a Hekesh you
could learn. So, if you could learn a
Hekesh from Exer Shava, of course you
could learn a Kavachomer from Exer
Shava.
Says the Gemara, "Wait a minute. You
It's a Machlokes. It's not so Poshut
that you can learn."
He's rewatching that video.
like we saw in the beginning of this
year that a Hekesh cannot teach a
Hekesh.
That's only if you hold Rav Papa. Elim
and the less of
but if you don't hold
Michael Maimon. Let's see. He said it's
a Machlokes. So, we're going to we're
going to change the Kavachomer very very
slightly. Look what we're going to do,
Raboisai.
Let's see. Oh.
You all time out. You just did this.
Hekesh
uh Hekesh
okay. Okay, fine.
Now, we're just we're not going to learn
from the box that says Machlokes. We're
going to learn from the box next to it.
We're going to go like this.
A Hekesh the Kavachomer. Uma Hekesh
Shein Melamed be Hekesh. The The first
part is the same thing. You cannot learn
Hekesh from Hekesh. Why? Even the Rova,
even the Ravina. Melamed be Kavachomer
yet he teaches the Kavachomer with the
Tonah of Rebbi Shmuel.
Gzeira Shava Hamal Melamed be Gzeira
Shava. Now, we're jumping. You see?
We're not doing Hekesh from Gzeira
Shava. We're doing Gzeira Shava from
Gzeira Shava. Gzeira Shava you could
learn from Gzeira Shava. So, certainly
you should be able to learn a Kavachomer
from Gzeira Shava.
Gzeira Shava Melamed be Rebbi Nachman
just likes to mix us up a little bit. He
throws in some names. Rebbi Nachman and
it did Melamed be Kavachomer. Does the
Adam get it?
You got it?
Hello, you got it?
For real?
You what?
You're rewatching it. But, I think it's
pretty
Can you explain again, please? You want
me to explain again? Yeah, please. Okay.
Starting from the top corner.
Uh
Time out. Where are we? Oh.
I'm holding the wrong thing.
Hekesh. One more time. Uma Hekesh just
ignore the names. We're going to we're
not going to do names. We're just going
to do words now.
Uma Hekesh Shein Melamed be Hekesh. That
you're Maskim that a Hekesh cannot teach
a Hekesh from the right top corner.
Melamed be Kavachomer it could teach a
Kavachomer. You could learn a Kavachomer
from a Hekesh. Top left corner.
Let me see if you did hours. Oh. You see
this red square? Hekesh cannot be taught
from Hekesh. But, a Kavachomer could
learn from a Kavachomer. It's Shvach. A
little bit. It's very Shvach.
So, a Gzeira Shava that you could learn
from Gzeira Shava.
Gzeira Shava is stronger than a Hekesh
because you cannot learn Exer Shava from
a Hekesh, but you could learn Exer Shava
from Exer Shava. So, certainly you could
learn a Kavachomer from Exer Shava.
You got it now or it's a little bit
better?
Okay.
Fine. That's the end of that. Dover
Halomed be Gzeira Shava Ma Oshilam be
Binyan Av. Now, we're on the last last
one Exer Shava line. Line number two.
Can you learn a Binyan Av from Exer
Shava? The Gemara says,
"Teiku. I don't know."
Dover Halomed be Kavachomer Ma Oshilam
be Hekesh. So, now we're on line number
three. We're talking about Kavachomers
now.
Can a Kavachomer teach a Hekesh?
There was a guy, one more Maiseh about a
Kavachomer. This is a famous Maiseh, but
it's good that you repeat.
There was a very very wealthy guy that's
the Rav of the neighborhood came to him
and said, "Listen, I need money. We have
an Almana in the neighborhood. It's Ner
Avaim."
He says, "Are you joking?
You know my brother? You know what
Tzaros he has?
I can't I can't give you any money."
Nu, but please. He says, "No, but my
mother,
she's an Almana and
Ner Avaim the Matif in her house and
this and that. I can't give you any
money."
So, the Rav goes and he goes to the
guy's brother. He says, "Well, what's
the story? Your brother tak uh gives you
money?" He says, "No, doesn't give me a
dime." "Doesn't give you a dime?"
And then he goes to the mother. She No,
the the Gvir doesn't give me a dime. My
son the Gvir. She runs back to the Gvir.
He says, "I I just went You're lying.
I went to your brother. I went to your
mother. They they both said that you
don't give them He said,
"I don't give them any money, but that's
exactly what I'm saying. Kavachomer.
Madach my own brother, my own mother I
don't give dime. So certainly I'm not
going to give you any money.
Okay.
It's another type of Kal V'chomer.
Don't use it. It's not
not recommended.
Can I go to Can I do a Kal V'chomer? Kal
V'chomer.
The words are Kal V'chomer.
Oh, you're going to love it. I'm going
to ask you to repeat it, okay? You
ready?
Not this.
Let's see if we even have it here.
No. Oh.
Yeah. No, this is a Kal V'chomer.
Something else?
Kal V'chomer. Oh, my goodness. Should we
stop the shear here? And just start
this? Cuz look I have a little surprise
for the Oh, you don't have Gemaras, but
No, no, no. This is three lines long.
Um
Let's just do one more piece, and that's
it. No, no, no. Kal V'chomer. Oh, my
goodness. So if I learn a Kal V'chomer,
I'm on row number three Kal V'chomer.
Can I learn a Hekesh? So the word says
Imagine Kal V'chomer. Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my goodness.
You cannot learn from a Hekesh.
Right? Top line. Oh, my goodness. It's
not learned from a Hekesh.
Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.
But could teach a Hekesh? Could teach a
Hekesh?
Oh, my goodness. Not everybody holds
like that. Kal V'chomer.
Oh, my goodness.
A Kal V'chomer. Top line.
Kal V'chomer, you could learn from a
Hekesh. Third thing on the top line. Oh,
my goodness.
Oh, my goodness.
So certainly
you should be able to learn a Kal
V'chomer from
uh
Oh, my goodness. Right? Certainly the
Kal V'chomer on the the third line. Kal
V'chomer.
You should be able to learn a Hekesh.
Oh, my goodness. It's a Papa. We said
it's a like this. Here. It's a like
this. Oh, my goodness. It's a Papa. Oh,
my goodness.
According to him, take all.
Should we stop here? Stop over here. Oh,
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