Daf Yomi Zevachim Daf 3 by R' Eli Stefansky

[Music] Good morning Ra boy. Welcome welcome to all the guests. Got to catch up a little bit on theim. So here is some lutakov. These are the satellite locations. We have 24 different locations. This is in >> Nia >> Nira inia. Their their mam is racking over there. >> This is Oh, Kabad. This is on the same block as 770 and um it's out of order here, but Schlim Klein went and gave everybody his own. He hijacked our logo, made it Kabad style. Kabad. That's old old news. >> This is in >> here. B&H rebai. B&H new location launched. They're in one of their uh rooms there in the morning between 8 and 8:50. I don't know how they're going to get the whole shear in >> without without the emails. My shear watch launch night 10 attended at launch night. Here it is for road every night at 9:00 p.m. gets there. Wow, look at this. MDY KJ in northern New Jersey. Sumaris and Sum in Hollywood, Florida. Sheer watch location. They have a watch location in Hollywood, Florida. Gald godam London sem unbelievable the Manchester Isaac Weinberg you remember him you don't remember him >> says bar mitzvah voice says bar mitzu today our daily zoom kav from the five towns my 15-year-old son has not opened up for the last few years and he was convinced by his yeshiva friends to join him di now he's making a seem on haras Congratulations Moshi Getter from Yeshivas Mikato in London on making your first seal from mayor Arya Blau mayor Blanco from Toronto. Check this out. This is the CM they made tonight was truly inspiring. We had over 90 people including Yishi Norris who drove more than 2 hours from Buffalo, New York to be part of the celebration Ravi Bag whose 11-year-old grandson learns the D of MDY uplifted the entire crowd with powerful bra. His words brought a special warmth and to the evening in true MDY fashion. The scene brought together people from across the city uniting both longtime participants and many first- timers. The atmosphere in the room was filled with excitement and genuine sense of atos beautiful strength and reach of the daffin MDY. See pictures attached including pictures of special MDY placeholder bookmarks made for the seal. Check this out. MDY Toronto reps. Beautiful nice leather different colors and Isrady sign in the background. We have a kabad group of about 20 guys mostly from New York. Some are from LA learning the daf. Some started sanhedrin some hyas. Tonight we celebrated a seme 13 guys came together including these names right here. The scene was led by Shua Levenberg sponsored by many farash and host by Israel Junik right here in Crown Heights on the same block of 770. May we go. Thank you for your amazing shar. Big shout out to Klein who gave yamakas and showed us showed up as well. These are the two brand new locations in our just started yesterday and this is we did this. Oh this I felt I should send an email since defense encourages them. I just finished with MDI over 10 years ago. Musa and I wanted to do see we picked due to it shorter length and interesting sounding subject. However, we were in for a long trek due to the difficulty. When I heard about Rab was given for this, I thought it was a good way to see how he teaches. I was pleasantly surprised how clear he made it seem. Thank you very much for enjoyable learning. Adam. Oh, Maztov to Mayor Samberg gave birth yesterday to a beautiful baby girl and just wanted to share this photo with you to finish him today. Look at this. Oops. What did I do here? I don't know. Okay. Basically, he's using the one and only the MDY Gamaro, which got a lot of raving reviews for its clarity, its ease of use, ease of shot. We have time for any others? No. Let's jump in. Sponsored by David Salomon. Dedicated memory of sponsor. We have four sponsors. Whoa. Anonymous. sponsored by Skybrook Capital in honor of our friends Mary Kovac Taki Shamshi Slafra for their devotion the tire of study and cheer >> meny do me a favor maybe can I get a I need a >> yeah I'm I made one at home and I forgot to bring it just give me a cup >> yeah is there is there any uh honey over there or something like that the voice yesterday I got a bra from now I didn't get one trust my Father Jackadelia anonymous [Music] cheetah man is still back. Look at him >> just catching up. >> Sponsors monthly anonymous from London. No, listen. He used it up now. It's better than during this year. That's it. You're done. Your one comment done. Oh >> sponsors cheating. No, no, it's okay. Monthly, let's get it out boys. Anybody else from London business monthly sponsors TCS Israel power by talking in honor of the marriage of my son and my daughter and the relocating and my relocating to Eden gardens in Orlando of Florida anonymous from London. I don't want to be but I didn't have a prayer here from London in honor of my father's six cycle of the da your big heart and giving to the community is an inspiration for all of us weekly sponsors anonymous as for success in parasa and to be able to support and those in need daily sponsors Aaron Trowing is my mother Beverly Trowing Bas on her 20th yard site Jacob Lavine and Indic families in honor of the yard sites of our grandmother and great-grandmother Shirley Lavine and Rose Lavine. Arnon Arnov in honor of my nephew Shalom Mazleton Mazleton Sum of Aar and Hus with Rebelli. Daily sponsors Ariel Jerry Gans Maz to my father grandfather and brother on completing with rebell summers for Ben anonymous help me out over here. >> Thank you that I know. Thank you for the grape and bakos for very good mas in the movie in everything. Thank you, Rebelli. My last dollar is 4 MDY. >> So many characters. >> I get it. I much rather have Thank you. I much rather have longer and then break my teeth like this. Whoa. We got more time. >> Get there somehow. Longer. >> No. If you pay double, you get double. Yes. Mayor Ben is today. His efforts to promote the learning of widely bear fruit through Vabi and MDYK. Anonymous in honor of my parents who you catered their wedding. >> In honor of my parents who you catered their wedding. Whoa. I catered somebody's parents and he has he's old enough to sponsor. Yeah, I guess it was 20 something years ago. Unbelievable. Scary stuff. MDR monthly voice. I'll tell you here first. We're starting. We want to do something a push. Thought about everybody takes on cabalis. Almost everybody takes on cabal. Sometimes you get to kiper, you're stuck like what kabalas should I take on this year? Last year my cabala I took didn't work. The year before didn't work. Well, something that's not too hard, not too easy, just right and hits it in the spot. Here we go. Everybody together is going to be we'll do it as a as a group. At least during Kadesh. You want to during I'm not going to bother you this year. This year, this year we're going for Kadesh. One thing at a time probably the most important thing all of Israel the whole sch is giving praise to ye all giving praise and you're standing there on the side blah blah blah blah blah it's a tremendous biz to the and we'll take up one thing we have to be bigim all of one thing you know why he's shaking his head I'll tell you why I'm thinking now there's a back in the day me and him were smoozing This is 11 years ago. And a woman came over to us and she said, "How dare you talk during Davin?" And from that day on >> Shu is known as the shu that talks during Dav. And he stopped on the spot and never said a word in all of David. So he's thinking why why just but let's let's go for something small. Something that's attainable. >> Something that's attainable. Not during kadesh. Okay. Let's see if anybody has ideas how to promote it and how to we'll give $1,000 per person per week. Whatever. We'll make it work per word. [Music] What's your name? Sadiki. >> From where? >> From Israel. >> From where? Where in Israel? >> Four. >> You're hiding. I could What's your name? >> Well, from Baltimore. Nice to meet you. All right. Here we go. Stuff today. We're holding seven lines from the B. Yesterday we had a little bit of a we're finishing up that part of it. And that is we discussed in the mish. If somebody has a bad thought, he thinks that instead of it being a he's bringing a carbon instead of an isah, he said he's bringing Did I do the rest? No. Yeah. Instead of he said he's going to bring a [Music] so that's a negative a negative instead of so we asked the question what happens if it's not a negative it's a neutral neutral thought zero zero thought is zero neutral is okay but by a get neutral is not okay that's what we established yesterday. How do we know this? How do we know that by get typical fashion classic? We're going to go through five possible sources. Four of them we're going to knock off and the final one as usual is the right one. We got the stool. How do we know by get that a neutral thought writing a get out without adding the intent for a specific woman is not good. Not good perhaps because it says in the Mishna. So we're going to have some very cool cases here. He happened to be walking down the street and he hears out of the window he hears them announcing that so and so is divorcing so and so. Something like this maybe. Marov table. [Music] Oh, so what just happened there? We're talking about Rashi says even in the beginning of the suki, we're talking about a place that teaches people how to write Saffros. So they're saying, oh, he's teaching you. So that's a stamat and it just happened to be his name. There's some very popular names out there. For instance, uh in maybe the Cohen probably the most popular name in David Cohen, Moisha Cohen and they take Sara divorcing S. Perfect. And they're just writing and he happens to be listening. He wants to use it. Is that a good get? This is Wow. Kiss from Hashem. Unbelievable boy. No, it's not a good get. So what do you see that a get that was written without any intent a neutral intent is possible says no what's the what's the big over here is we knew that we're talking about she says we're talking about a place that they're writing gan to learn but the point the is making is that it's not written for a get it's written for a joke if it's written for a get just It's neutral. There's no person in mind. Okay, it's written for a get just it doesn't have the intent for Sara, but it's written for a getus. It's nothing people practicing writing third graders. So definitely that's not a good get. A couple things I two there's just for throwing it out there. Why not? The easiest thing for a to write in the beginning is a >> migill because the of cassidra and all sorts of don't apply to migillah. So a guy was taught that there's not a lot of involved. Go ahead and write. He wrote a bunch of migillas as a beginner and then he decided to sell them. So he sells them. Five years later he wakes up he realizes he heard somewhere that you have to write a migillah. similar to this you have to have intent that it's for migill not just to learn how to write and he did not have intent he thought oh I don't have to have any it's nothing it's not a sra just writing writing writing had to go track down the people he sold it to that's one ma another misa I thought it was a cool misa there's a guy his very f it's true story his very first migilla that he wrote looked horrible large letter small letter off the line crooked the whole But he really he really wanted he wanted to make so he started dabbing he even added there's a news going around that if you eat a lot of kulish from it also some mikiter he had a lot of kougal a lot of tim and at the end of the day the guy the the went around in America to all these gir showing migillas so one of the gir says let me see he said wait a minute what's that thing sticking out of your pocket he says no no that one you don't he no I want to see you're hiding something from me. He takes a look at he says, "Oh, this is what I'm looking for." The rest of them just looked like, you know, coming out of a press. It looked like too perfect. This I could see it's authentic. You know, somebody wrote it, paid $3,000 for it. My favorite word. No. Oh, cloud is zero intent. Forget that's why it doesn't work. Oh, we're holding an hour daff today. [Music] >> Another case. Yes, sir. Even more so. Now, we have a case of he did have intent for a get. It was a real get, but he didn't divorce her. Oh, we have another one. Rabbi say, we're loading the mountain right in the beginning of year. Don't worry, it's not going to be like that for the rest. >> Oh, it's in English. Hold on. Maybe there's one in Hebrew. In I mean in there's only in Hebrew. Okay. Sorry. You're going to have to We're teaching you Hebrew today. >> Why you going to If [Applause] you learned that you're a great husband, so she made up with him. >> We have the same names. >> Okay. So that's what basically that's what happened. If you want to know what happened, that's what happened. husband went to the you know what I'll tell the I want to tell the new guys all the new guys there's a few thousand new guys I want to tell them this ma that just happened that brain told us told me the ma say it real quickly cuz you guys know it but for the new guys there was a couple still around this happened just a few months ago 3 months ago maybe they went to is where a place where they try to convince people and prove people yiddish kite and everything a very highpowered couple very famous, very to the left, very wealthy and the husband was getting into it and the wife was going crazy to the point where she threatened her husband that if he continues with it, she's going to get divorced and he continued with it. So she went to the rabban and she filed for divorce in the Rabban. She opened up a file and they came to Bravers for Brain was a big fan of the Shia and spoke in the Shabbaton and he said unbelievable. He convinced them to watch the shear. Why? He doesn't know. He just said, "Listen, there's no other choice. Just watch the shear together." So, it happened to be that we the she was at the safari. Then we were on a safari. And the first she opens up and she sees the fari. So, she said, "What you could be from and go on a safari and this and the whole thing." She said, "Oh, if you want to be like that, I thought you're going to grow a big beard and you're going to it's fine. As long as you take me on a safari, I'm good to go." And she went no serious she canceled the get. >> So you see people write gon >> babies marriages >> everything everything. I sent these guys a email. I should I should actually read it. Guy's name is Pelle. What's the guy's name? >> Pelleg. There's a guy Pelleg in a university unaffiliated but watches this year four times a week in Rutgers right. So says good morning. How you doing? boy. It's you cannot use that as a get. Why? Because it was written for a different woman. So you see that you need So why can't they why can't I use it? It's not like the case over there with the kids learning how to write says the reason why you can't use it in it was disconnected already. It went to another couple. That's why because it was a negative. I'm I'm looking for a case where there's a neutral get. Where's their neutral? Oh, here's the case. Another even more so. >> Where's this? Oh sh. Wow. It's growing. It's growing. There's more people. Beautiful. Keep on going, boys. I'm telling you, keep on coming. Even if you don't want it, even if you hate the shear, come to the next guy. They'll like it. >> Where's the snapple, boys? Hello. Yes, Ra. That's how it always is. You start off with a lot of food, nice snapple, and then you go down to Coke and then to this. You start with sushi and then goes to pizza. >> All right, let's go. Let's go. Elmo, we have a new case. Okay. Here we're filling in all the stuff. He has two wives. So, it's the get is written for for a get. It's written for the same names. He married. That's Listen, my boys. If you're going to marry two women, make sure they're not the same name. It's impossible. I used to call one, they both come. It's not they have the same name. If you had in mind, the husband is for sure the same. the the wife's name is the same but she's the older one. He had a mind for the older one. You're not allowed to use it for the younger one. So you see that you need says again same kind of answer. It's posit answer because he said that it's going to be specifically for the older one. So he already disconnected the get from to disconnect the get was already made for special for the older one. So therefore he can't use it for the younger one. By the way I I heard something about I don't know I I think this is a great idea for somebody that doesn't want to get divorced. He wants to keep his wife in auna. You tell him like this. You you hate her that much you want to make her an auna. Guess what? If you don't get divorced and she dies, you'll be stuck with her forever. What? >> You're looking at me like I'm crazy. >> No, no, no, no, no. That's the biggest gemy could somebody don't want to. Okay, >> even though >> they like it. They like the idea. We're working on them. >> Yeah. >> Is that even though half was properly because >> I said three times it's his name, her name, just not the right one of the two. >> The next step. Correct. It's and it's one of his wives. It has everything. All it's the same city, the same his name for sure. It's even her name. Just what? There was an intent for the older one. So, this is not a good This is not a good riot. >> Who's we talking about? The cipher >> say doesn't know. Whoever Whoever's in charge of the kavana another one another even more than this. You know what you write. I have two wives with the same name. Write my name. Write one name. Sor I'm going to test them out. We're going to do a test. The better wife over the weekend is the one that stays. I can only afford one. I'll decide later. Why is the get was written without intent? You see that without intent without intent for a specific woman is possible says. So we know this concept that's called retroactive clarification in the art scroll. Basically if I decide tomorrow I I write the get on Sunday but on Monday I decide which one of my wives I'm divorcing. So retroactively it comes out that he wrote the get on Sunday for that particular wife. It it was the older wife. He wrote it on Sunday for it was retroactive clarified that it's the older wife. He doesn't hold a bra. Not everybody holds a brea. >> Okay. So then it's done. >> What? Oh, so you learned the ready. So wherever you got that kasha, go get the answer. L. Oh, so by the way, where where do we see where does retroactive clarification work? >> Where in the world does it work? >> Better better manuva. Chuva a person doesn't have on Sunday. On Monday can go back and tell I have I want to undo it. You go backwards, right? Elmo what? What about clarification that over there? It's something else. >> It's not means to retroactively clarify. >> Oh, finally. Here we go. This is it. Rabbi saying and that's the end of the you know you go to the store and you buy a readym made suba ready made so you get a template the whole get is ready and but here let me show you what a get looks like real quickly because there's a ty and a ty is the upper part with important information about the person's name the place he lives etc. The type is the blue part is what everybody uses >> boiler plane. >> So what >> boiler plane >> okay so is that something that lawyers I don't know. Okay so the ty part leave out the name of the of the wife and the and the husband. Why? Because if you put it in there, then it's a stamat and a stam get is is what he called is is possible. And that's it. That's our that if a person is writing a template, don't put in a name because the name even if you don't have any intent for anyone and you're trying to do like a like these keychains they sell in the store, right? Every lined up. You could get Noam, you can get Avi, you can get Yankeev, Mosha, whatever. So, you put you'll guess you'll guess a bunch of names. And uh maybe you'll get lucky. You won't have to write a get. No, you're not allowed to do that because then it's without and get without is okay side. I'll just tell you quickly. They say, but I have a twist to the Ysef. Somebody came to him was he who's fuming at his wife and he said I want to divorce her right now. So just have realized what's going on here that's uh you know the guy got really upset. So he told the the cipher he whispered and he says you know mess up a little bit. So he start dragging and dragging three four hours and what's your name? You sure how do you spell and this and that the whole city? How do you do? And finally he comes with produced get and he shows it to him and says it says in the motoenstein my name is not my name is Cohen. What do you kids say? Wow, what a mess. How do I do that? Okay, so they start all over again. By that time it was over. They said come back tomorrow and the mice is what a mifus that the guy never came back never came back. He calmed down. The only thing is I found out yesterday I looked into the story found the guy went to another bezdon. He said I don't want a bez that messes up. Oh, so yesterday we had that raven tells where were you image you missed one of the best ever Friday night he contra contradiction this way and he answered contradiction that way another what what what's the other contradiction so says that if you take and you as in it's pleen to this so this is a beautiful check this out the gumar does something fascinating here the takes an idea that that's by a carbon in the b mikdash and uses it for other other things what's the idea idea is if it's not we had in uh in hyius was it I don't even remember anymoreinoi So, right there never is is easy. If you take two things that are not the same, they're not the same family. So, they don't they don't ruin each other. They have no connection. So, for instance, if if a a takes a carbon in the B mdash and he says uh this is a car talking so it remains. But if he says this is, he ruined it because it's within the family. It has a connection. You say is, you ruined it. You say anah is just foring and selling in a store for a barbecue, it doesn't ruin it. Why? It's a different a different family. So is whatever we today in is there's no B mikdash today. Everything is so if somebody brings a carbon to to the B mikdash he says I want you to sh this as as a as a katas and he says okay thank you and he says I'm I'm shucking it for Benny's meat store so people could have steaks. He did zero because it's a katas. The guy made it. He has to be. So he didn't do. Now here's the question. Now takes it. I'm just saying. So we get basically to the bottom of the says what about if somebody writes a get for a G is not an hour. They have no to get. They're not in the par get. So if they're not in the par get, it should be a good get. You should be able to use it. If she happens to have your wife's name, Christina, whatever it is, you could you could use it. Yeah, no, get is different. What's fascinating is that the Gmorra takes this concept and brings it all the way to tum and tyra and that is if you take two ka I'm just going to say it quickly and then we'll I'll show you and beautiful stuff. If you have a cle that has tum in it and everything in the cle becomes to if I put another vessel in it one inside the other and this tum inside over here it won't become t this blocks it. Why? because it's another min. But wait a minute, another min doesn't destroy. You see the top thing. We're coming with this concept that if it's another family, if it's another thing and now the takes it from a carbon all the way from all the way to if you have two different things, one is earnware, one is wood, it shouldn't make a we should count pretend it's not even there and everything should become it. That's the it's a beautiful let's see it inside and you'll I'm just giving you a quick overview not to be understood now just to see the overview you take and you make it that's the same family but if you say you take it and you it in mind to eat steaks on a barbecue nothing to do with the why the if it's the same family it's like so to speak not a good m but interesting uh similarity same min destroys it it's terrible the if I say when I'm talking about a carbon it's not the same uh how do you say min in English >> category category >> species but category we'll use category it's a much better word it's not the same category it doesn't do anything to it So let me ask you a question. If I write a get this is not important to us without the intent to this woman it's possible. Now this is what we're looking for. Even if the get was written to a goya she's a different m she's a different category possible. It's possible why it's a different category. You just told me if it's a different category it doesn't ruin anything. So it should be kosher vishani. Simple answer. If you remove you pretend the G isn't here. She's not here. It's not the same. You're right. It's not the same. Okay. Not the same. And therefore what? She doesn't exist. Doesn't exist. So then it's a then it's a simple get without intent. And we just established to ple forget the Goya. You're right. The Goya is is different. But even if you pretend she's not here and I don't care about her, then you have a get that wasn't written. And again, there wasn't religion was possible. But if you're going to ignore the fact that this is for stakes then then it's a neutral and a neutral is just throwing it out there. By the way, this peric it's interesting. This paric is three times in this exact per three. Stop nothing to do with what I just said. Now it's really say that if I one carbon and I had intent for another carbon it's possible yet if I for different category completely not for carbon for just regular use it's just to remember what it says here not doesn't destroy Roy. Let me show you real quickly. This pretend is earnware. This is a sher. This is a mouse. If the mouse touches right over here, touches the cle it's dead. Touches over here. Tommy or not to >> not. Why? Because the says it has to be inside. It could be even hanging. It doesn't even doesn't have to touch. If it's in the air space of this, >> then everything in that is tummy. So if I have an apple in here and the mouse is hanging, the apple is tummy. Now what the is doing here is what if I take another type of cle. Let's pretend this is wood. This is even it could be glass. It could be glass. Fine. But this is ferris. >> I put it in here and it's sticking up. That's not important to us. Now, it has to be sticking up above the top because if it's below the top, then the ear is the bad air. It's like dirty water will flow into this clay. So, it's sticking up. Okay. The ear the the dirty ear. Why is it dirty? Because there's a sher sher's ear. This is Tommy. Let's put the sher nice so I can look at you guys like that. Okay. If I take this another whatever this is and I put the plum in here. This plum remains tar remains tar. Why? Because this this material blocks it. But if we're going with this idea that if it's not this category, it doesn't do anything. So here you have something that's not in the same category. It shouldn't do anything. And my tuma from the mouse should penetrate right through something that doesn't do anything. Why are you looking at this and saying this is something? This is a nothing. You said that if I think about which is something else. It's a different category. It doesn't hurt us. So this is another category. We made a tremendous jump here. >> It's a massive jump. >> But for some reason the saying there's another category. You know what the Gar is going to answer? >> We have to explain other categories. It's a different type of clay. >> Yeah, it's a different If this was the same type of clay, if it was then it's the same min and it would would it would would black would black. >> But it's because it's a different it's a different category. The gar is asking why is it blocking? It shouldn't black cuz it's another min. If it's the same min, it blocks. If it's the if it's a different min, we just said different is not m. The gumar is going to answer that this and this are the same men. It's the same category. Why? Because they're both kaleum. They're both vessels. Yeah. One is glass, one is this, but it's the same clear is going to answer. Hope this stays here. >> Let's see inside. >> Work for each one. Same type of category. >> So, get the same might touch a little bit. Let's see. Fine. Now, here we are. Not this, but not the inside of the inside. Means something you put in the mikvah like this glass, like wood, like metal. You can't be mater It saves it. It creates even though it's another category. So says the Gimara. So they answered the the language is a little interesting. But the point is that you're right. What you're saying is perfect in a different case completely. Let me show you first of all what Yoshi did cuz it's beautiful and I don't want to just waste everything he did here. Here this is what he did. Here's a cle with a dead mouse. cutaway. There's fruit in there. Here's a cutaway of the the different type of the outside is the inside is wood. What do you guys prefer? The the live or that? >> Okay. Now, here's a very similar case. Over here, you have a earthed wear oven. In those days, the ovens were and the guy decided to put a wooden in between. Over there we say says over there it makes sense to say it's a different min and we don't even cons consider the wall at all but not in this case over there yes well your your your sara works in a wooden wall in an earthenware oven and the is going to explain because nobody builds walls in ovens cuz it's going to disintegrate from the flames but if you did then I'm going to say it's a different min and it doesn't do anything it's as if it's not there it doesn't exist the wall doesn't exist And if there's a mouse on one side, a dead mouse, and there's fruit on the other side, the fruit is going to become that's in a in a in an oven. Let's see. You're right. This this uh wall does zero for us. manly cloud. So too the there's a carbon and he's trying and the K says that it's it's just ordinary meat that's a different min and it doesn't it doesn't ruin doesn't ruin but over here the the point the punch line is over here these two are the same and if it's the same why is the same because they're both Caleb same it does make a And I'll prove it to you. This case right over here that you see on the screen, you have an oven that you try to make a break it down with wood or with some sort of hide cloth whatever and is a on one side of here's the the whole list of you can watch while I'm reading. Yeah, it means this instead of that. Okay, everything's check this out. This is a nice picture you did. You have a basket that's hanging in the air. It doesn't it's hanging in the air because it's a smaller basket. So, it's hanging there. The point is that again, the rim goes above the the oven or whatever it is. And it's really in really bad shape, this basket. It has a bunch of holes. It's a holy basket. And he plugged the holes with straw. So it's not a real basket. If it was a basket, then it's a k. Then it would then it would actually create a protection for tuma from the apples inside won't become. But since it's a it's a nothing. We don't consider it. It's we don't consider it's nothing. So here's a that if it's not it's min it doesn't hurt us. It doesn't. So if you say instead of it's not it doesn't hurt it. It's a good carbon. Did I skip anything? It's hanging in the in the ear space of the oven. If there's a inside the basket, everything inside the oven is if the inventory why we have to remember this if check this out. You have a room the the concept of oil. You have a dead person in the left corner and you have a a basket of fruit in the right. What happens is the tum pops up and spreads out in the whole room. The fruit in the right side become what if you build a little makita out of wood. It works over here works. She says if a piece of wood could help shade from the mace mace if you touch a mace you for seven days he touch is just one day different a m is much more could be mama more stuff it could be etc. So certainly this this would is of the opinion that wood a should help and protect the the tuma from transferring to the other side. No, you're wrong. Why? This is a normal thing for people to build walls in their house made out of wood. But it's not normal for somebody to build a wall inside his oven or inside a doesn't make sense. Okay. Says, "Very good. So you just answered that's a great answer but says so he says you're you're right holds he agrees with the concept that we said what's the concept that if it's not it doesn't harm us we don't care it's a different category we don't care he hold like that so why in this case right over here he holds that it's because in this case he has aimer [Music] that in a cle he says oh it shouldn't be any worse than by a mace but the the logic he holds that and therefore when it comes to carbon and you thought about a carbon that should be a different category it should be it doesn't will agree it doesn't hurt by carbon it hurts by by because he has aimer as the gar so make aimer by kachim if you already have a kav make the same what and it shouldn't work according to if you think about that it should be or reverse it ruins it so certainly all of a sudden now talks about all of a sudden now you could say the reverse before we couldn't okay but we have some sort of oh no another completely the reason why if I in in if I with intent that it should be the reason why it's good not because of what you said some some other reason not because it's the same it's a different min different category and that's why it's okay and this is very very common in this we get stuck in a corner it's a pos why it doesn't make sense you're right it doesn't make sense we have a possible Yeah, but we got to get to the end of this. Don't realize it. My time is it says you shouldn't profane. You shouldn't be ruin but stakes ordinary meat cannot ruin a carbon. Sponsored by turning of the daff global specialist in international financial services. Anonymous anonymous in gratitude to rebell for promoting and oh the second location in LA from Pico. They're on Zoom. I don't know Gary if you can put them on for a second guys. Beautiful. Beautiful. Very proud of you. Keep on going each other. Keep on coming. Bring more guys. And then we're gonna make stroll look small compared to you guys. 25 guys is going to be nothing. All right. Almo. What happened? We have ribber who says that this I have aimer that if you put fruit in here, it's not protected. This is not a protection when it comes to uh but when it comes to kachum it is and the reason why it works by kachum is because I have a puk even though logically if I if I think about kin instead of a carbon it should ruin it logically what's logic is logic I can make up my own but I have a pausing against it okay great so I have the word. I have a VV here, extra VV as we're going to see. Shouldn't the break? Now, if you continue on with this logic, it goes a little deeper. Why in the world did the Tyra say? What is what do I learn from again? that in this case if I have a cle within a cle and there's a dead sher in the first cle whatever is in the middle cle is tar wait a minute said that exact thing from that what he's saying the should break it if by dead people breaks it so so too by it should break it so then why do I need a word to tell me that I already know that from says no I don't have the word available and that's why I need a in other words the word is not to tell me this the word is tell me something else you're right I don't need the word to tell me this is that I can learn from logic if I can learn from logic I don't need a ple so what do I do with this word I told him very interesting What happens if you take let's say a donut a rugula and you coat it with cement. You coat it with cement and then you touch the cement. Does the rugula become tummy? Yes or no? Anybody want to take a jab at it? What? What do you say? >> What do you say? >> Dry cement. >> No. No. No. >> Dry cement. It should be. You're not touching the thing. You touched cement. What if I take that exact rugal with cement and I put it into an oven that has a dead sher in there? >> Does the cement protect the rugula? >> Anybody? >> In theory, yes. >> The only reason why wood doesn't work is cuz wood would burn. But cement doesn't burn. >> Okay. But I'm asking Allah, does the tuma in the oven penetrate that cement? The answer is what? So, oh that's what we're learning here. That's what we're learning. But in theory, it should become tame. Why? Because it's in the oven. Lisa inside of inside of inside, it's in the oven. Anything that's in the oven. The T says anything that's inside should become. >> It doesn't help to protect. It's not It's inside the oven. You can't pretend it's not inside the oven. Touching. Yes. Inside the oven, no. So says the from this I learn how different >> it's different because at the end of the day it's in the ear. Where's the rugula? Tell me where the rug. I'm asking you where's the ruga? Where's the ruga? It's inside the ear of the oven. You can't pretend it's not inside the the oven. Where is it? It's in space. >> You didn't touch it. You never touched it. You didn't touch it. Your finger is not touching a rug. Your finger is touching uh cement. Let's keep on going. I would think that like you guys are saying that in the ear it should become that it does become tom I don't need this from from from I can learn it from logic and therefore the is available to tell me that this original case of an of a plum going into inner cle does not become tot Okay. >> Oh, hold on. I have a video. You're right. Thank you. I almost didn't show this. These rugal are not baked even though they look big. Don't let the >> There's a little frog there. Ah, makes a lot of sense. This miso. Okay. >> He dipped it into cement. That was cement. Cement dip. He has it always ready over there. [Music] Here. So he has to give contradiction. We're continuing with okay till the end of the omelet here these these contradictions that what when you change from why is it different than changing from any answers what's the question oh this is a different case that we didn't have this case before if somebody ate for the this is just for the new guys as I'm talking somebody ate ka And he brought a carbon kos for his you have to bring but the messed up and he said this is not for the it's for blood they're both kos they're even the same what's the same kas in other words it's a different k what it's the same person for different reasons the kaser >> do I look like someone who drinks blood I am a religious man my grandfather was a great rabbi in Poland. >> Okay. >> In this case, he did drink the blood or he didn't but the guy the K messed up and he said this is for blood. It's a good it's a good carbon. But if he went to that's considered one min. Why? Now we're switching a little bit. Okay. Everything we learned on flies out the window here is considered one in this is considered two before in we said it's considered one relatively speaking because over there we're talking about compared to so is considered one men they're both carbonas over here we're talking about and that's literally one minute just for two different things and now we're talking about and is considered two and that would be possible like we said But the is saying a different kind of outcome. So you see from here that if it's not the same min it destroys. Now we're saying it's different. Until now we're saying not the same men doesn't destroy. Now we're saying not the same min destroys the if it's the same group same category. The problem is what if I give it I have in mind for that is terrible stuff it's possible but if I don't I go from I say you I'm going to give it to I'm going to that's saying the opposite and that's the contradiction you see that in the same category gory just different people it it ruins it. If you say instead of ru even though it's the same ruin it's the same and the answer is simple simple over there you're going to another person you're going to another from one instead of ruin that's the worst that's a forget about that says you in the first case when you do all When you sh for another person, you can't sh for another person. The reason is basically if you'reing by the way, what? >> Yeah. All of meaning it's for you. It has to be specifically for you and not for your friend. And I'll just throw in here that when it says, it means for the right there's four there's four. So we're talking about that he's having in mind that the is going not for Ruven. The Zika is going to be for Shim. Question. How do you do not for Shim? It has to be I'm doing now. How do I mess up in myita? >> Oh, you learned this myself already. Maybe. >> Do you know about pet? Maybe. So while you're doing I'm thinking to myself the is going to be for another person. >> Should we try to do this now? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But we have three minutes. Okay. Let's see what we can do in three minutes. He wants to go on to tomorrow. I agree. He has a question from changing ownership from going from room to shipment to this case right over here. And he has answer. What's the question? We just said that if he he for somebody that's but if he then it's no good if he the same but he has in mind it should be let's you see that the same same category ruins it and what about this case right over here you have two different So two different meaning it shouldn't destroy. It says we learned somewhere else that even though this is a different min the green is a different min than the it stops it stops the that we learned before right the same case ah it's not the same min it shouldn't it shouldn't it shouldn't stop it says it's the answer what's because it says four times and I learned from one of the times that that that this works you're another min shouldn't stop. But the reason why this stops is it because I have a special word in the pit called How do I have four times? because it says the word twice and has extravag so it's four times what I learned from the four things I'm sorry it says four times one teaches us that if there's food inside this becomes tummy from the mouse that I showed you to say that even if the the mouse doesn't touch the the clay becomes tummy only if this is should have used this to show you but okay if this is it works not if it's let's say made out of glass this pretend this is and from the fourth one I learned that this is a protection the center one is a protection even another min that you could put in the mikvah have a wonderful Hey, >> merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.