Daf Yomi Yevamos Daf 17 by R’ Eli Stefansky

we're going straight to the videotape it's still in the shiva so another murder thinking video it's only five seconds or ten seconds long and there he talks put raise the volume really loud and the guy with the coffee maybe we could stop for a second and here we go ready to learn daffy me now i want to show you you know let me just i have to read this email we have something very interesting today three pictures from the same kind of thing but it's a long email i'm i cannot read the whole thing i read it the whole thing twice but i'm going to read to you just parts and pieces it's from elliot mattingly from boston massachusetts he says that he went to harvard business school and having spent two years in harvard business school i feel qualified to say that a business school case is intellectual finger painting relative to what one experiences on a daily basis when doing the death and then he goes on to say because he didn't have a background a yeshiva background and he goes back to that and he says tragedy struck our family when our first child the beautiful baby girl was diagnosed with a rare form of leukemia he spent 222 consecutive nights in boston children's hospital and he says that it's enough to batter the mental health of the strongest of people but he was able to accomplish something positive every day by doing the daf that benefited not just myself but also my i'm skipping around there but also my family the camaraderie of mdy appealed to me and i could feel the energy in the sheer and then he says that mdy is saying to him for his daughter alicia vacano aviva early there's still fair mountain sheer that flies over my head but if i'm able to take away something new each day i'm confident i will eventually be able to fully learn with the rest of the community to those like myself who didn't receive a jewish education growing up but want to learn gemara you're not alone do not let the language barrier intimidate you and get on and get on the bandwagon you'll be glad you did then he says in closing i want to share the event which prompted me to reach out to maisha hersh in the first place mr hirsch runs the organ mercaz which i think is over 2000 people on it or so it's the weekly um newsletter of mdy last week we were blessed with a son whose bris was this past tuesday attaches a picture with me uh of me with little hayim oren catching up on the daf when he's just a few days old and we're still in the hospital it's my hope but grow up with the access to all jewish educational opportunities i lacked so he will not face the same challenges i do as you can see below we're starting him off early thanks again for all you do ellie mattingly boston massachusetts so i want to show you here go to this picture right over here this elliot and his son which do you see it you don't have anything oh you know why maybe hold on yeah i got to go here hold on how about this that's better what's up with you today having everything upstater okay because i hear more of you than myself hold on now the next picture oh yeah it's going too quick here he is abby a little quieter today thanks thank you so much never thought i'd be learning with my newborn instead of doing nonsense here's another father who is doing the daf it's it's flickering we need that thing and now a third father sent in all in one day rabbi's eye danny gruner i don't know i i forgot the guy's name i apologize maybe also he put it on the screen barak hashem just had a new baby boy thank you learning the daf and adasa hospital three in one day learning torah in the hospital they're all boys all boys um so real quickly maybe i'll show you this because we're on a roll here can we go to the next screen here this one i don't know if you see this or not and i'm going to a video garrosh and everything beside her up there maybe avi factor could help you out abby why don't you go upstairs and help him out a little bit instead of getting away don't ask i told you to go over there go over there you'll be the first one kicked out of the middle of a shirt on me everything to say there okay so this is a group of guys from here he goes again avi do me a favor help him out there's 14 guys israeli guys the cool guys that don't want to come to our cium and they're too cool for us to human but they learned the myself with us and they were promised by what's his name kitov what's his last name sun ray sunrise thank you you said you're somebody sorry just terrible names he said to these 14 guys that if you go if you learn the messerta with us i am going to take you to you remember this here we go look at this video [Music] and he took all 14. this is not hosed this is a real video right here on the bus that's why i love this video they're all learning the daf on the bus [Music] it's a little long maybe we can skip ahead [Music] they went for four [Music] look at their faces crying [Music] [Applause] [Music] right bottom corner you raised thousands of dollars to get these guys to learn this after and they went in they went to the camera came right back there and stalled they like stayed just for i don't know less than 24 hours they wanted some soy for a meal tonight look at that look that's jinji that's my barber the guy on the left [Music] talk about here we are we are a couple lines down in the future that's today's dav sponsors we're not there yet the anonymous sponsor of the koilo somebody else is surely rosenfeld the memory of my dear friend you dog also that 19 year old kid who donated twenty six hundred dollars for his in honor of his friend parents but the lack of lubbock families lakewood as a squarespare families jonathan davidov remind me joseph please i need to read a very important email that has to do with something that we just read here jonathan davidov it's a it's an anonymous one the one that you forwarded to somebody john davidoff of the family paris friends and family refused bengito happy birthday to our wife and mother cyril farquhards made today's learning videos for her in the whole family i'm ron mayer zero dove and also zelda farquhars the shermans of kew garden hills nishmas our grandfather and great grandfather on the occasion of his yards mario robbie irving dropkin moisture steinberg in honor of ballerina yaya and yummy the trying competition for the zakaria to pass this driver's test where everybody's everybody together you should pass this driver okay oh we never had such come on enough for the smash not for the foolish layman's he should pass his driver's list a shout out i hope this is corpus christi from texas thank you mom and dad for a wonderful vacation love ben zak daily what i read worst it's true thanks for sticking that in there there is one more sponsor somebody sponsored for the whole month 2600 is a crazy story i don't have the wording because it went to the wrong person but basically they went to rabbi druk from benebrach cabroso reprimand connects a young guy and he said we want you to be mass speed we want you to say something villain for literally on the spot a minute later he had a massive heart attack and he's just came out of the hospital he needs a big rafu and a big hustle of his is sponsoring for his refusal emails he should i don't know his name refuse slamming for rabbit rook from a neighborhood zombie mario so we're just talking about the assailant and they're all these different cities and somebody wanted taina the mushri is muskies masculine whatever that now it's going to be that all the russians are are all jewish fine i don't i don't believe it but that's one of the guys one of the china [Music] yeah if anybody give me that say i don't know his new book for the inscription i didn't read it yet whoa from kensington from ramada around from nevermind iran if you make mistakes don't fix it from yoshif colony from the train to passage from camp moyers from pondovich from tifra and from chicago from bernie yeshivas and rbs we finally grew up to become oh who finally grew up to become i'm not going to read the rest you do this at the end of the day all these people all these ashwauton apostles so it says rasheed is something fascinating not everybody agrees with him but why are they possible says rashi not because of who they are but because of what they did afterwards because that's what they went think about it they go to america you know in the in the in the 40s what happens look what happened to the eden that came there a lot of them and that's what happened they they but even worse rash says they were marrying brothers were marrying sisters i have to stop for a second rebellions here he made a hassan last night unbelievable he's here so let's go the coolant of soul but because of this terrible things that they were doing their apostle says so for this we must go to the chart if i could get there before gary gets to be great but no yeah i can't i could i can't you there this is the chart oh so this tube sukim gimlin dalot right one after the other and it says like the skating barashi bringing is telling us do not let your son marry a non-jew don't let your daughter marry nanju then the terror goes on to say who's kiyosa who's this referring to kiosa one of the two of the puzzle before and that is that the non-jew is going to take your grandson binha your grandson and veer him off the way the zara but what does the torah call him we all know this ask anybody what what makes a jew if the mother is jewish how do we know that this positive right here kiosk is bin the guy she marries the non-jew that she marries will take him off to derek it doesn't say it about the non-jewish woman that your son marries from possible doesn't it ignores that part basic dallas is only talking about one of the two cases and that is that a kid that comes from a jewish mother even though the father is not jewish jewish is the famous uh mariel ghazi who says that it depends he says of murder he said it once in the past that depends if the mother acts like a jew or not depends how they bring up the kid if they bring him up with christmas and all that then he's a guy and if with hanukkah and it's here famous foreign if it comes from if the mother is non-jew jewish then the kid is not a jew le covered up khan kenowski and shiva maison was a guy that came to raphael kanewski and said that they need a reform for somebody so they said what's the the person's name adina something benedina sadina nina's is the the mother of lovan can't can't can can get rid of the name stu do fi so the guy that heard this he had another friend that wasn't doing well so he decided he told his friend well your name is adina benadino you got to switch the name so guys well before he says why i heard the mice of she says let me go honking he says no don't switch the name switch it to uh she said but what happened i don't understand uh you you told the other guy adina she said no then i had a i said what would put in my mouth because rocco gave me this feeling so his annika was there and he said what about me should i also say things that just come into my mouth and i want to say them so he said if you have pure mashavas you have nothing no makshava zaras in your head then what comes out of your mouth is from hashem so you learn a couple of things here you don't just stam dudes if the name is shira one thousand percent you gotta switch your name according to khan kenowski that he never made any she has to go but dina depends sometimes it's good because no i forgot to say he told the person that dina was was ruckles was rahul's mother it's the same person it depends how you look at it it's either lavan or rocco his wife lovan's wife rocco's mother yeah then that all the men of assassin's creed and don't count for anything because if they married gayim then the kids are going but what about that seriously and the women that were from our senator we just a lotion not of tyre it's a lot of getting ripped popping their womb um exploded or it wasn't functional anymore once they had to travel and go to gullos and by the time they got to whatever country they got to we know we have a tradition they didn't give birth don't worry about it there's no jewish women who had relations with that had children um on these people and created something that didn't exist they said again with the power of the hamam they have a power to say these people are non-jews i and future generations they are jewish if the jew the jewish woman marries an anjou her child is a yid today in that generation went and said they're all non-jews that's how we're going to pass it and that's what they are bashing these jewish women they gave birth to zarim what's a czar some of it's not part of clyde israel says us is going to be destroyed there'll be a young why because as we learned yesterday tarah has the slaves of shloima or the the women of the usherlight whatever it is it's a bunch of jewish women who had relations with either the the slaves of shleimo or and produced there what do you mean they're going to make a jantav in the future vahrehv we don't know if a yanthiv that happened yet and there are destroyed says taught me to have it what was destroyed is that turmoil it is something else no it is the same what happened was it it doubles up it you try to chop the head off from here it grows from over there they were never able to completely destroy tomorrow you know tarman whatever you want to call it they tried they destroyed one area and they started populating from the other side so melo they couldn't make a yanta horror magee so he's in my geese so they destroyed one side they popped up from the other horizon look at this unbelievable look at these questions however elabda arpano masay if not for the fact that it comes from our panel which are a bunch of moms just take a mom it's a great time with khakham a little bit of a momser ixa so you saw that was really embarrassed oh malay so he took it back he said what do you pay taxes to omale not to harp on you i give it to nahara you came in some explain from the fact that he saw that he has boucha so it's one of the simone of a yid of a kosher yid so ullah took it back and he said it goes by where you pay taxes you're not you're not from arpano you're from nahara pumnero okay you're a good guy meyer pagno why is it such a terrible place he called him a mountain like you didn't call my mom and he said look you're your apostle omar abzero shackle point if you don't have a shidduch it's going swear in shidduchim the of crisis so you go to harpanya because that's where there's a lot of people with sulim and somebody will marry over there it's easy to get a shadow if you don't know exactly what your genealogy is where you come from you go you don't know you go over there it's worse amuco there doesn't literally mean deeper it means it's not a muka where you get a sugar from you made a heck huh you know there's a lot of stuff going on there i don't know exactly he himself has issues she goes up there amuco they say it doesn't work anymore since they put up the mojito there's no more from there has a way out f name i'll i'll redeem them from gahannam look a year the maximum 12 months a lot of times as we learned a little dip the pin the belt you know flip on the on the barbecue grill for a minute and then you go into garnetin that's from gehennan so if a person is a monster is absolutely do lesotho there's no way out of it there is actually if we don't know who people are then they don't because if you think about it let's say i'm just i was thinking like if you have like ten thousand a series of shots that were my museum so by our generation we'll be in the millions right they never go away so they marry in all these so the entire russians mum said the entire whatever you want to say muskie this all of iraq but if you don't know who they are so they it becomes bottle that's that's that lack of like you don't have to be hoisted for something like generations later they physically how long they become battle but absolve doesn't have takana if you know who it is you know that they're generation after the generation i'm saying there's no tacono says the gemara suleidar pano the mom serious where did the harpani get them observers from mushrooms they're close by the mission city were very wealthy and they forced the jewish women to marry them behind doesn't matter what episode is or the measurement is it doesn't matter what it is it could be a large it could be small megan devos it rolls into sha oil um eventually works its way out to to further away cities like arpanya which is the furthest from oil and with their boys we learned about the 15 soros you see if you just started today you started yesterday brand new parrot you don't really need to know much and if you're still struggling you'll figure it out eventually so we have the 15 stars these are the 15 women the way you okay for the guy that just showed up today the tire says let's see if we even have a apostle care maybe i'm gonna go away from this no okay we have to pass a different place if a person has a sister-in-law he's not allowed to marry a sister-in-law but there's an exception to the rule if the sister-in-law becomes an almana she loses her husband and her husband your brother doesn't have children then you're allowed to marry the sister-in-law it's called igbo she falls to you there are 15 women that if they fall to you tibum you cannot marry them you cannot do ibu for instance a very obvious one is your own daughter if your daughter married her uncle your brother and that brother passes away so you're not going to be meowing your own daughter but not only that you cannot be me abhim your daughter's co-wife but sarah says the mishna one of the 15 things that we learned was keita asia's the case of a brother who was born after the death of his brother so if we look at the passage here it says kieshu this is the possible if the brothers are living they're sitting together together and one of the brothers dies and he doesn't have a child so then the puzzle goes on to say that the brother that's alive should marry the brother who's dead his wife okay but it has to be yeshvu as the kumar is going to say they have to be together you want to learn from yaktov that's your thing but the ignorance says from the word yeshua they're sitting they they they were together in the world they were alive together in the world but what happens in this case right over here this chart took a very very long time to make and bazer hashem these are the charts are going to look a little bit like a little bit more like this a lot of hell from our artist our in-house artist yoshi over here you have who did all the designs and everything besides the m and the b and that what i did later on and schneider fine you have over there reuben and shimon the two brothers the baldwin brothers the brothers because the bald and you also have the little child who's a bald kid he's also one of the brothers what happened was step number one if we go with this step number one let me see if i could turn on my laser and go over here let's see if it works no i don't got laser here so you go over here yeah over here i have laser how come i don't have laser here oh hold on did i turn it off it's on but it could be that the battery though no it's on oh here's laser here's laser okay laser who's the chocolate isn't it okay you have two brothers right here you see on top it says brothers i'm going to try to stay consistent for the rest of my sector this is the show's brothers right over here okay so you have reuven on the left he really should be on the right from now we're going to find shimmer is on the left rouvain is married to mazal right over here and we're going to call her for now richard it doesn't matter and then shimon is also married at the same time he married the bataan lady she's okay step two is that ruvain who's in dubai right now he he goes bye-bye goes to dubai dubai so that's step two now what happens after step two this little guy is born that's one way we had we already discussed this case in depth there's another way that this hebrew and then he's born but this mishna says step three is little yusaka is born so since his soccer wasn't in this world when these two guys were married he's called right over here asia's right over here you probably can't see it because i can't see it he she is a wife of a brother who wasn't around when he was a when he was alive he was born after the death of his brother therefore mazal becomes what a ereva what is she called what is her does this little guy have to marry her the original lister of marrying his sister-in-law remains the whole only time you ever had to marry the system after the brother dies is if he's alive during the brother's life but it didn't happen so these two guys you see the red arrow this red thing going here on the three that means us sir gree means mother this is awesome this little guy cannot marry but then what happens is she men is miyabe you see the green the green right over here the green four he is permitted to be miyabem mazal you see this little masala over here that's because she goes from being rubin's wife to being shimon's wife he's me avenue unfortunately he goes bye-bye step number five but shimmy was married to this lady also co-wife battalion he's married to two women so you would think that after shimon dies or bye-bye this little guy should be miyab and battalion but he can't why because look at this there's an arrow here and he bumps into the the irva he cannot marry mazal forever and ever because she was and therefore he cannot marry battalion who's a sorrow she is the coho the co-wife of the nervous says the mission inside kate said what's the case the two brothers well mesa held man there's reuben and shimon and one of them died reuben dies and afterwards little issac was born rashi calls him levy i i can't do levy because levy is a different guy he's a doctor that talks a lot before share starts whatever holds up [Music] and then vermeiz and then shimmy goes bye-bye the first one we call masala now the first one harisha you know you see i called her resharina right over here sorry china what's going on oh yeah rich i know because little guy was not in the world when she was actually married to little guy's brother rouvey then we go over here but i ladies she's the sarah she's the co-wife of mazal so the both potter when shimon dies awesome what if shimon right over here doesn't marry mazal this little mazal over here was because he gave her money he said i want to marry you fully in a year from now right now i'm going to be makatishu called what is that called rabbi say my mur he gives her money it's awesome a mighty murderer he gives her money but maybe he didn't really marry her so how logically midorizo did not marry so midori so but ayan is not a co-wife with mazal but because this is the rabbanu ki duchenne here so they are co-wife's mid-rabbit on suraban said you saw her cannot marry either one of them so what should he do we can't just let them go and marry anybody in the street because when they rise they cannot so they require schneider requires uh halito but if americans might not even understand what's going on here but it's like a hippie type of woman she has a knapsack you know this they're very fruit they say a lot of tahila and they have a funny i find that whatever but that hip hippie hippie uh froome lady omar rav nachman mandatory should i call her whatever you want you want to call her in china call her china what's the difference you might explain it could fit in the language can fit in the donation miller for the learn for learning the daf you dino bass mary shawna richard illinois she is the first one to fall to ebon she when her husband rouvain went bye-bye she fell to shimon later on jimmy goes bye-bye so battalion also falls liebhome but first happened case number one if you want amanda tonight and if you want to call her schneider she had she married shimon when did she marry shimon after shimon married but ayan so she's shimon's second marriage asked him who told you why is that important to the case isn't possible also that shimon married her first and then he married battalion and they're still co-wives of each other who cannot fall to you soccer okay fine you know we're just talking about language here mila skin in the evening it's possible that he first married masala and then he married but i yeah you're right it's her second marriage first she was married to ruvei mazao and amazon married chiming so that we could call it you want to call us our mishnah happens to call her doesn't call her at all calls the the other one fine you see it on the chart or if you want to be more accurate period they sat together choice they sat together proudly but the little guy he wasn't there together and then from the next word of what we learned from that they could inherit each other prat luck of my name so over here we learn that that brothers are only brothers from a father if they only share a mother they're half brothers from a mother they don't perform even why because that brother from a mother doesn't inherit each other if there's a problem somebody dies there's no inheritance inheritance goes from the father's side if let's say there's no father then there's no children the brothers get it so they inherit each other they're called brothers and all 12 of them we know had the same father so you see that being a brother must have the same father as it says in the past so we learn look at the xerishava [Music] that says if i could find my will this is easier your brother's wife and over there it also means your brother from a mother when it comes to iraqis there's no difference between a mother and a father if you share a mother you can't marry your sister-in-law from a mother either from your brother's if your brothers from a mother you can't marry his wife the sister-in-law so why don't we learn from there to eboom that a brother from a mother could perform are those words the same no one is and over here the words are the same i much rather learn two words that are the same says gemara but what's the difference it means the same thing means a brother nanaka means brothers so what's the difference this is a very famous suggests eleven times in sas we already had it from the beginning of twice about how you know that the torah or the murder learns torah is telling us that when it comes to the saras naked saras in the house if a brick has an affliction you remove the brick you put a new brick then he comes one week two weeks we learn our lachas from the first week to the second week based on two words we do exercise they're not even the same forget about one says one means return what means to come but it means the same thing the kind is going to the house it's about a completely different word coming and returning are two different words yet i can learn xero shovel like that there's no better word so we compare two words that don't match they mean the same they don't match but over here that i have a choice of learning ahem of yibum from arias and to tell me that it's from a mother also or akhen from which the words are identical i much rather learn from the identical words if i have that option this is let's learn from life it says the exact word and what do i want to learn from light that what light was related how through father so that's exactly what we're learning no no but we want to learn that a nephew could be me by his aunt because light was a nephew so we learned many times when it comes to xerishava you need an extra word and when you have that extra word that's completely actually it tells you is so powerful you can't you can't refute it so there's an extra word by yaakov there's no there's no need to put in the word we're all from the same father meaning we're brothers so the word is completely extraordinary so that gives us extra power extra word that gives us more power towards their shovel where we don't have that really by light although the image says we might have it says because we have the amount of rabbits who comes along and says i have shava he learns of me after i learned from xerashava at the end of the day why do i need both maybe i should learn from life maybe you'll say there's no extra word by life they must over here it means a little different they both inherit the same person whereas a nephew never inherits the same person with an uncle they might inherit the same person but not they don't come from the same vantage point one is inheriting as a son one is inheriting as a as a son of a son is but never as a nephew because it maybe the only way you do eboom is if they have they share the same father and mother srikha all they need to share is one father why would i ever think that you need to share a father and a mother when it comes to look at this and the gemara is going to tell us that it means the oldest brother should perform ibum yakuma he gets all of the brothers inheritance the one who performed zebum i mentioned i think in day one of ibamas the ramos says ramaz brings that is a a minute sort of that the one that performs khalitza he gets 50 of the inheritance makes a big difference and who gets to do it let's the guy's a gazillionaire he's worth 100 million dollars all the brothers will scroll let me just let her take off my shoe what do i care i don't have to marry her i'll get 50 million dollars the oldest brother gets to do it says the gemara boy abakar it says maybe the whole entire thing is a big hit that the torah allows you to have relations with your own sister-in-law which typically it's awesome we know you can't do it if you're just a brother from a mother you have to be a brother from a father so maybe it has to be brother from a father and a mother maybe let's go extreme it has to be a real real relationship [Music] should we start this it's a very it's a let's start this week we have no choice so here for the very first time we're going to see the idea of zika brought in the gemara before we saw it in rashi now the kumar mentions it for the very first time shimers java if we just take a simple picture like this you have two brothers reuven shimon reuben is married to rocco and ruvain goes bye-bye what does shimon do right now he he's on vacation he's busy he doesn't know he has to make up his mind she wasn't so normal that one time he met her yes but not what does she call she mercy of him she's she's dangling she's she's she can't marry anybody else is she what is what's going on right now is there a connection between the two or not now let me show you real quickly i brought my zika kit here it's not a nothing fancy i just lasaber saw asin we have over here because we're not late at all we have over here the ovum actually this is not good okay forget this but we're not gonna forget it pretend this guy didn't go buy back this is the oven so it's it's very corny but in hebrew this is called azikon so what we're gonna do here is we're gonna put this through them like this i'll show you in a second why it's not gonna give to us maybe so if he's a ovum and he's not doing anything that's it there's a zika going on you see they're connected somewhat they're bond together but the way to get this off and i don't want to do it right now because it's late if you remove your shoe there's a way to do it you could look this is impossible this is like you know this is how they arrest people right but if you put a shoe here here where's your shoe i have let me shine it let's say this is a shoe this is a shoe you take this and go like this and it comes apart that's that's how you take away zico that's one way to do it now this is shiloh whether or not there's zika mclaughlin what is zika and what does it do if there is zika what can't this guy do could this guy marry this woman's mother right now they didn't he didn't do ibum nothing all that happened is that his brother went bye-bye and now they're zoko together they have a bond could he go ahead and marry the mother or not maybe there's no zika maybe he could marry the mother maybe there's another reason why he can't marry the mother you know what that reason is the reason is that if this guy marries her mother could he ever marry her absolutely not it's a mother and a daughter and what is he doing he's mavato the mitzvah he's getting rid of the midst of evil and that's awesome you know it says if this woman who's waiting for this guy to make up his mind and do ibum if she dies mutrubima then he could perform he could marry the mother amika savar in zika you see from here that it doesn't hold that there's a bond this doesn't exist according to him why because how's if if there was a bond they're like somewhat married then how could he ever marry this woman's mother they had they were married together they they didn't finish up what they had to do they didn't do ye boom but there was a zika vitara put them together so you see from here he holds no zika villain in zika so just tell me straight out why do you have to tell me a whole case she marries you over there just say i hold ain't zika and i understand what you're talking about i understand you let him marry this this woman's mother you have a magi betrayed so if you look at this case right over here on the not on the look at the chart if there's three baldwin brothers reuben shimon and levy and his two sisters there's a case later on we're going to get to in deaf men and roe vane goes bye-bye comes lazy and for no good reason he decides to be makadish rocco's sister you see those two sisters what happens since rocco has the zika to levy rahul fell to levy you hear judah i see your mama's intent rocco should be me ladies should do something with rahul he should give her khalifa he should do ibum but there's two brothers maybe she goes to shimon not the lady how how strong is it so the mclaren is what happens with leia says the gemara i would think that whole problem is when there's two and when there's two brothers ladies and gentlemen that could take care of rocco so put it put the burden on chimin and levi could marry the sister it's not a problem maybe in that case but if levy didn't exist it's only shimon then it's so strong the bond between rahul and jimin that leia doesn't exist you can't marry her you can't do anything with her i would think that so then say so be very specific say zero zika even when there's only one brother that's so strong i think it's only when they're alive and i'm telling you that even when they're alive this doesn't exist we'll go over tomorrow a little bit more but the idea we get have a wonderful you