Daf Yomi Succah Daf 17 by R’ Eli Stefansky

does your brother watch you think really that one time i'll tell you in a second um today's share i said this by my schwere i uh did a little bit of uh like i said it's that course i played for myself because nassanal ganz who did the whole 1800 gamora he was behind the scenes with yossi klein he's doing a huge thing this sunday and he did not ask me and did not hint to me so because he didn't ask him or hint to me i am going to plug his thing because of that karsa the ms he has no idea that i'm doing this and he never asked me and i'm not he's he runs and because of our campaign he was negligent for you i think i shouldn't say this and i tried reaching him to swing he's like i can't talk i can't talk does this thing of they go they they go to kevarim anyways check it out i don't even know what the website is they do for free you can give them names they go to the forum for you for free and everything is gewaldex so as a karsa type to him i'm letting the islam know and today's share is sponsored in his course in the source of nissan algaze and everything that he's done for the sheer today i went to a local uh hangout heir of chavezenga great chicago and as i walk in there a gentleman with a great beard shows up and says you know i go i watch a sheer i said new so why don't you come live and then another guy and then another guy and it turns out one of the guys that that came there is one of my original tell me them tell you what i was in in rabbit tourist show used to daven and i was moving with some of the 13 year olds there and i had this hunch and i take these kids i go the 13 years old i said rabbi say who's the god al-hadar and they look at me and they say one guy says i said no no no i'm talking about alive right now so another ham says rabbi twersky not referring to zalman over here he's also he's from the daughter and i got dark so i i realized we're we're we're in some big soros over here the the these kids are a maratsim so i said does anybody know maiden that was my first group and i said listen if you guys learn xyz z maidem and alameda what was it marty these things so some of these tell me them not the marathon part but some of them were the triplets the dower triplets and sure enough who's in the restaurant one of the triplets y'all saved how old is he today 31 today today's is but wow i didn't know that i even said today that's funny interesting so his birthday is today 31 years old and he's watching his share and his father is here in the audience but he doesn't come either they're like what's with you guys and all of a sudden mrs philip smith she turn she screams and i watch to share also okay i thought that was hilarious yeah so that's that's the story from great chicago but there are people watching this year it's it's almost like a design to come here some of my best two of my best friends here in chicago they watch this year but they won't come so we got it we got to make it like something that's a little cooler than what it is and it's out of shabbos i really appreciate the doyle came out i know it's it's difficult to come out during shabbos um here let's read some emails here this is from simon gabzi hi rebelli here sitting on hadrian's wall learning the dove is that how you pronounce it and guess what you're explaining about walls and what constitutes them is this a coincidence no thanks your inspirational share even though i don't understand everything i get the concepts koltov simon gabzi from edgeware i don't know how to grab this off a video he sent me of him on the wall venezuelan i think it's very very close of guys on venus mine i'm on trips here's another one in banasamanam in iraq this is the real deal this is yosemite learning the daft behind woodburn shoal in ghanaian there he is beautiful picture with the trees and the whole thing staggering away it would burn what else do we have here i from landsman when i saw you with chakras the other day i thought maybe i should ask if you're giving sheer for the chicago i live in person but i didn't anyway i would appreciate if you can let me know your chicago schedule somebody knows from landsman so let them know where we are mutsy shop is here at 10 30 and then sunday we're going to uh what is it called today rabbi uh eichenstein on khadrov yeah not kobe sushi anymore khadrov from sunday on we're going to be in khadr i think by michal rendler ellie love to share thanks and uh yeah over there love to share thanks are due to you and everyone working behind the scenes if you sure ago when the haystack case came first came up you were looking for the right word for empty space in the middle of the haystack new guy came up with void i admit that it's pretty good word but something about it bothers me it's not quite the proper word what do you guys think when you hide it bugattish we said void what's a better word he has a pretty good word here oh yeah cavity he's having a cavity it's not correct the probability i think much better word the word you're reeling for is cavity or perhaps the word hollow ps i love this i too left your share for another share a couple weeks ago due to all the jokes and lights on us but like a drunk i returned to your sheer several days ago what can i do i'm hooked nicole rendler fire rockaway listen if you're a really serious serious guy and jokes are not your thing then clock a vote you know when i learn with my caruso we put money on the table and if we say one word during saturday the money goes to zucker we hate that's how it works so i don't like talking during saturn i don't like making jokes during say there but sometimes you have to be too lazukima if you want to be serious and not hear one word of light saunas there's a thousand she room out there online go there gevalde if you want to have fun while you're learning and this is your thing it's not for everybody listen it's not for everybody [Applause] okay we're starting a brand new mishna brand new parikh in the sector it's sukadafiz let's get all the charts ready here and there are a lot of them today think that that is the sponsor the sponsor is you have avoid a cavity it's not at the right word neither is hollow a right word here anyways you have some sort of gap a three traffic gap sula why is it puzzle because what's happening here is you lose a wall since you only have three walls in this case and you have a cave you have a gap here so the shock is not connected to the wall you lost this entire wall so you're left with two walls now obviously if you have four walls like a like our circus usually have so you'll have one two three this wall over here would be a good wall so it wouldn't be an issue we're talking about in a situation where this gap causes that you lose a wall and if you lose one wall you're down to two walls now it's possible when we were talking about doif and akuma everybody loves the concept of different akuma what does david akuma mean does david akuma mean a crooked wall so right over here i have some bad stuff going on so i make my wall crooked like this that's one way of looking at it live in akuma it's a crooked wall or daivan akuma is crooked this way it goes up and takes a left turn but it's using my bad ska it's a big enough gamino is it cutting out the bad sky it's going on an angle or it's using my bad stuff this is my bad scar it's using my bad squat it's just a crooked wall how do you understand living anybody you want to guess sure for you anything who's that mark okay 75 people in zoom most of them are from new york five o'clock who knows what time they're doing shabbos amazing stuff okay me i have to be here you guys i don't understand why you're here i don't but it's a tremendous kid of shashank so listen to this rashi says from here is mukha that doif in akuma is not a crooked wall like this doif and akuma is like this why because if different akuma is cutting out the bad stuff then why can't i just cut out the three falcon who cares how many how much ear i have ignore it just cut into it but since i have to use that three tepha gap that proves to me that i must use it in the dive in akuma and if i'm using it three tepha actually ruins the wall and three tapa you cannot do you could do diver akuma for four amis eight feet of dho even akuma but if there's three of a gap of air you can't do it anymore but why not let's just pretend the air isn't there i'm doing a crooked wall it says rashi from here you see that akuma is not a crooked wall like we thought though if an akuma is a crooked wall like this the guy was really drunk when he built the wall he went up and then went 100 he went 90 degrees that way and you cannot include air if that's what he tried to do if this puzzle he could do it but not with here now the mission is going to give us three identical cases basically of doif and akuma this is the typical case of deutsche akuma here you have a giant skylight in the middle of your house there's a either a house in muncie or again the builder did a terrible job and the ceiling came in we said you know what let's make the best of it let's use let's make this into ahsoka so if the the the ceiling is less than four amis in all four directions even but if it's more than four ammos puzzle now second case of deuteronokuma identical exagger is the overhang in front of a store in front of whatever it is and you have three overhangs and you put this in the center so it's the same idea of doing akuma just instead of it being inside a house it's outside of the house and think about it says this is there now in america today what gets you more jail time than murder i'll tell you fear housing if you don't accept someone of a different color race or whatever into your property go to jail for 65 years minimum that's how it they're crazy about fair housing we have to train the people over and every two months train them and train them and we have undercover shoppers and try to slip them up and what kind of people live here unfortunately in energy stroll they will tell you straight out in this city from people are not allowed to move in they say they say straight out they advertise on tv we don't allow from people here what do they do in order that from people shouldn't move into a city you know they build high rises with many floors so you can't a lot of fruit people don't use the shabbos elevator and they build buildings without circus they put this the porch is one on top of the other so an interesting question arises and the front people buy it anyways in betchamesh they try to build a whole neighbor like that and it just became from whatever so now a bunch of people without sukkahs but let's say they give you like a tiny little sukkah a sugar that's sixth fuchem you have a little porsche sixth fakhem and then you have the rest of your porch is underneath your neighbor's porch what do you do so it's very interesting if you have six fachem and you add one type of hustle it's kosher so you can have like cement on top of you and it's kosher the problem is that there's an issue of saliva remember we added just the other day you have to take the entire piece of concrete that's 25 feet long and add that to your sukkah and then it becomes possible so there's a trick let's say there's a piece of concrete all you want to use from this concrete is this amount one teva and it goes over your sukkah and together what this is together you have seventh falcon it's okay the problem is that this whole part is concrete so you if you make a majitsa you go like this and you show you don't want any more then they say it's okay you could use a f of this concrete together with your sixth mother but it's a message of you have tiny little suckers especially these young couples they're renting on apartments in yerushalayim and they say okay here's your porch sometimes it has seven sometimes it doesn't could you use it how could you use it if it's exactly six thousand is nothing to do but six plus a piece of somebody else's concrete might be a better sukkah than just sixth interesting stuff anyway i'm not passing i'm just pointing things out as usual says the mishnah so we have the second case of exaggerated third cases seems like the same exact case meaning you have a sukkah doesn't this and this look the same they're basically identical this is made out of uh whatever a wood and this is made out of metal stuff but it's the same thing you have four sides of metal poles that are possible and mechaboltuma and they're not good and the center is if this is less than four amis i could do a deut akuma we said like an akuma means like an l shape not a crooked wall like this fine but if it's more than four ammos no good so you have three cases that are very similar just means it's the same lotion as before if it's fur if it's distance from the wall four hours then it's no good asking call honey lonely what i need three cases each one has a little bit of at least two of them talking about a house um house is made for the inside and i'm making where am i making my sukkah inside the dining room perfect so it's a little bit of a crooked wall so i say that when i'm talking about this case right over here i want to make a sukkah outdoors in between all the houses but look at this wall these three walls they weren't built for the outside to make a circle for that they were built for the inside for the house inside so i would think listen look let's yes it's but let's use common sense david akuma the the the terrible contractor that you hired made a crooked wall but he makes a crooked wall to where you're living to the inside into your living room he doesn't make a crooked wall into your concert that's not fair to to pretend that it's a crooked wall the other way commercial on i make a crooked wall any direction i want made out of good material meaning it's made out of material that's wood how do you build a house out of mrsarim we we spoke about the other day fort falcon missouri and whatever they are they're nice planks of wood but it's kosciuszko but the case that with the poles this case right over here this is not kosher so perhaps i don't say dominakuma with something that's not kosher so those are the three cases now we go into suggyo we mentioned it before an ear the difference between the two and there's a difference if you have a void a gap in middle of your sukkah that goes from side to side it could divide your sukkah in half and if your stuck is divided in half and it starts out with three walls so guess what now you only have two walls such as puzzle how much of this passes says but nothing changes the idea is the same aveer poison if i have a gap of three fahren of ear three twelve is about a foot of plain old air then it's puzzled but if i have bad stuff then that parcels with fort falcon i thought maybe as a cute way to remember it also as a muslim if you do absolutely nothing you twiddle your thumbs let's say you're not being accomplishing at all you're sitting and staring at a screen your brain waves aren't doing anything just looking so that's average hot air that's the worst that's the worst you could possibly do that possible to soak even three but if you're doing something it's at least you're doing something with your time i don't know you're cleaning something you're you're fixing something you're not learning tire maybe but you are doing something so it might not be the best but that that takes four that's even that takes more okay it's time like so the worst thing is to do i'm very against by the way one thing that really bothers me you go and kylo and sometimes you find unfortunately they make a shamrock for a lot of people guys that have nothing to no business being kyle all they do is the whole day they go from one cup of coffee to the next couple that's the worst the worst mom is wasting valuable time that goes wrong please go ahead and make a paranosa no i i everybody thinks i'm in coyotes they come they don't know what to do open up the gemara and then 10 seconds later they're up and going worst of the worst avir ever poison that's the worst puzzle okay where how much it woman if it's possible that's it the sook is gone if this is a gap yeah even if you sit under the sucker you're not you're just talking how would you be the whole success puzzle what we're going to get i think i know what you're asking let's we'll see some of these things later you could you could sit under these things but their clown if the silk is not muscle in this case when the suk is puzzled it's possible the whole thing is bustle after the position so rabbit says and i told these tell me them so very interesting safaris here i asked a question like this in other words rabbah argues and we'll see what he says how do you know this now maybe stop here for a second i just want to point out so i don't forget there's a tyson's here the bottom twice is possible and tyson says twice um and in both of those meals it's interesting that it's brought down the two meals have brought down one of them i have a picture here somewhere let's see if i can find it here first meal is hectic if you have two but in between you have ear pakis me gimmel and the ear is less than gimbal maybe i should say lover and connect them and styrofoam ball lift do we say that i have two plus two and the air in between is nothing it's as if i have four tap and therefore the whole sugar is puzzled the shemo kim in the maps maybe they're not mid star because this air and there's a whole different thing or ishmael keeping the aim of average solution starving or perhaps since it's less than three it's tariff so we pass in like this miu in other words he says it's a suffolk and therefore if you have nothing better sit in it without a bracha where's that other one that i said hmm i thought i had a better picture i know i have a picture here somewhere i'm showing it because first of all the picture is printed i might as well show it and it's interesting you have less than four tata of metal and less than three types of revere einhardt and connect them and say i have four types of bad stuff why beautiful and there's a picture so why not okay says the gemara so how do you know that rabbi is asking how do you know this of three three of ear you know from our mission from the first words of the mission if you distance the from the wall three two so you see that three two him is what makes a puzzle so he asked the question if so you should if you are proving your three fakim of ear from mishnah and aleph from the same mishna inside of i'm going to prove that puzzle shock is for amis not for him big big difference four amis is eight feet fourth falcon is a foot in a little bit says the gemara why this non it says in this in our mission if you have a hole a big giant skylight and you you throw on sk it says that the ceiling is for ammos then it's possible but if it's less than four armies it's kosher in other words batshach only passes with four amis varmur lee so they answered beautifully says rabba he says he's telling you what they answered him and how he countered their answer byron don't prove from our mission or anything the ravishmaul is their value the whole shot in the mission is definite akuma nothing to do with possible we're talking about it akuma now david akuma you could go even more than puzzles more than four twelve because you have a crooked wall a minute low i know and that's how much you see night so then i told them but wait a minute have a good cash possible solution mike he says like this boy so listen to this what's worse ear or metal ear because ear passes with three falcon metal passes they'll go with force she says what if you have a little less than fourth and the ear shouldn't it be my style for ford's if i have 3.9 of metal and i add another two inches of metal i ruined the sukkot so if i add another two inches of ear to that metal i should certainly ruin the sucker because ear is worse than metal i don't understand it 100 but that's what he asked i mean well if i eat uh a point almost like a zeiss of khalif and i add a little bit of blood to it am i going to be over half i mean you have to have a sheer whatever you do fine but that's what he asks the kumar is going to talk about but you hear the sparrow if ear is worse than puzzle so if i add ear to puzzle shouldn't it ruin it i should have at least four worth of something and ex the gemara is going to explain his far as soon so let's see inside and i asked them is and if i add a little bit of air shouldn't that possible the this half puzzle it should be as if i have ford's of bats why is here worse all of a sudden than metal bronze wait a minute i could ask the same question on you they told them these are not uh i don't even know what it is couple whatever the word is these are the tell me them of rav they know how to fight they put up a good fight here they said wait a minute your question asking yourself on a different case huge difference so let us ask you the same exact question what if you have 3.9 amazon it's not a puzzle suka and then you add a little bit of air to it shouldn't that be a a sukup sula would you you'd admit that it's not a sukup sula ah we got you back squad so what's the difference if i add metal to it or if i add ear to it it should also possible but you admit that if i add air to it it's not possible and rabbit keep it sound safe and i answered them beautifully hi my no connection i thought about your question and it's not it's not a question on me base when we're talking about foreign it's a special serious acoustic you don't ask any questions it's not a logical thing it's a mushroom machine without any logic bishop of life high life shiru so that three point nine that's not what the terrorists said thursday four three point nine is still kosher kyungli sin i cannot add one shear of air to another shear of metal they're not identical shiorim you can add two different types of shurim one is with three tvhem and one is with three almonds and i can't take a tefl of air and add it to the four amish of metal they don't go together the different children but you guys but you're talking about you talk about a logical reason hafloga what what's logical about it when it comes to anything it's always for him so forth what's the difference if it's fourth if i'm if i'm if my distance from the wall or i have a gap in my sukkah made out of metal that sports or it's a combination of metal and ear the bottom line is i have a gap that sports fakhim that's what i'm asking you if it's a logical thing and you're comparing sukkah to any makhan khashoggi then what's the difference what causes the gap is the gap caused with metal or the gap is caused with metal and ear yes you're right ear is worse than metal and with only three taken it's it's possible but ford's falcon for metal you agree okay so now i'm going to take the fourth valve and break it up a little bit of metal a little bit of air it should work i don't understand but you can you cannot ask the question on me because i'm talking about allah senate holy regime says [Music] you can't combine the two we just turned to design on base sponsored by them the white helm group for all those who need shidduchim refusing yeshua's and please join tillman.aimandaf.com interesting that i saw the rashford says it goes as far as a mikvah the steer of a mikvah he says that a mikvah that doesn't have stairs that are for falcon wide that you can put your foot on and people are scared they're going to fall in is a possible mikvah and the whole story with the place vine i forgot what it's called in in hungary where they made a step and eventually the water got higher and people weren't using that stuff and they're using a step that wasn't for twachem and somebody said hey they make this puzzle and people started screaming but we were using it for many years and the roughs tried to be master it and the diplohim said how can you be mature it how can you fight with the rajma and the nobody ever argued on this rashbow and you think that you're smarter than the raspberry he was very very sharp about it but anyway i thought it was interesting it's not just it's of what's considered a makhan is for him and you can apply that to many different things including a mikvah the step of a mikvah you think that it has nothing to do it's the bottom of the mikvah to this or the midfield no every step has to have a magnum question that's what the rashford says says the gemara is going to something very interesting what if i have a tiny little sucker exactly seven my seventh in that circle there's no difference between air and metal both of them are going to make the suk apostle with three tacom and therefore what says abaya murray dick since i have one case called a seven by seven sokka where ear and metal are identical in the shear then now they can be menstruative in all types of situations in in the rest of the torah because they are identical you're telling me that air and metal are different chi urim no they're the same sheer we're in a case of a small sokka says rabba incredible he's he's on a roll rather malay hassam lavish from the shop what are you talking about when you have a sucker that seventh fakhim and you put air in it the reason why the silk is possible is not because there's apostles in there the reason is because it's not kosher yeah it's a it's a very big difference it's not the shear of the puzzle that counts over here it's the lack of the kosher scrap that's here it's a big enough camino so i don't have a case that the shears is equal if you have metal and if you have ear the reason why this soak is possible is because i'm lacking guts not because i have bad sky in our mishnah it's because i have bad sky but a tiny sukkah it's because i don't have guts schmack no beautiful sparse today i don't know this look colder that's why i opened it let's see if i missed any pictures here i have a lot of stuff going on here avir poisson did we get there yet i don't know in case we didn't we'll put it over here this is all tyson's we're not going into this this could go over here what else do we have there's another thai swiss oh okay if i have different objects different things that have different children you cannot combine two different chiron that's basically what we're talking about here today we're talking about air that passes the sukkot3 and meadow or paso that passes ahsoka with four can i combine a little air to a little metal now where do we have a similar thing was not habegi hashem my printer was working today so i was able to by they please tell me yeah here we go ah imagine if i couldn't prune this it's a beautiful picture i found in i did this in shabbos i didn't have to do it again but here you have a piece of cloth that's three by three here you have a sack that's four by four here you have a piece of leather that's five by five and a map but we discussed yesterday interestingly enough six by six so to speak with this sheer the the larger it is in other words this is more and more cow you need at least six to make this tummy at least so let's see inside the three and three to the sack in other words three and three by three is enough for so if i have a sac that let's say has uh i don't know three by four it doesn't have the full shear four by four so i can add a little bit of baggad to the sack and make it four by four because beggar is even less than that becomes tommy so each one could be in style for the next so you hear the kimura's kasha over here you see that different things that have different chiron combined with each other the messiah with each other how come when it comes to metal and air you don't want to be even tired of it from zem to the larger shear this is akash we don't pretend you don't know the answer it says over there matam what's the reason however right of the time in my show each one with one tepha could be metamor could could create tomah if you sit on it if you take any of these things and you trim it out nicely take a nice scissor and you cut it out you make a beautiful square patch so much less than this even one time by one time i forget three by three six by six one third that was enough why creates now since it's so perfectly straight and beautiful it's a nice patch i could use it for a saddle if i use it on saddle and uh azov sits on the saddle so it's a my shove it's a tremendous toma okay so my melod those here once again i come up with the svara that all these things are equal in the shear remember we said before if ear and metal would be equal in a shear of one small sukkah then it'll be equal and sharing we went away with that we said over there they're not equal in the share but over here i have a situation a patch of a of of a saddle all of these products are equal in one type and then mella they could all now they have a relationship since when it comes to the saddle they're equal so now they could help each other out in other things they could they could you could add pieces and create four by four they could combine and be instead of because in one situation of a saddle they're the same surya amri lash might okay so this is how they learned it in surah babin instead of saying that it's rav this whole thing they said it's in the name shmuel or maybe here great if you have bad something that's makable toma like smackdown in the middle of the sukkah you need four tv that's all soggy and if you take a look at this picture you have two sukkahs this sukkah well this is not a good picture i don't know why he did it like this i don't like this picture because it actually has three walls here one two three this should not be here i think that's great this is a very good circle it might be a mistake i hope i may i i might be making a mistake to me it doesn't make sense right now what not the four okay good so yours is maybe more medium okay it looks cool but maybe unluckily not so good for hours the point is that if you have a piece of puzzle that goes right down the middle it divides the suck in half and if you divide a second half you don't have a kosher circle so you know what maybe there's less than seven i'm here whatever we malama suppose on this guy i'm calling because he's doing a great job and if it's just a gap of air hot air is worse than metal only threes falcon who says this in our door they said it in the name of shmuel not rav ben zappa's but if it comes from the side of the soca how much is it four atoms look how big look how it's tremendous all this eight feet because for eight feet for our bombings we say deuteronomy it doesn't matter where rav basically saying what we were learning up until now rabbo we said rabbit said this and the tambien of said the opposite and now all of a sudden it's rav saying what rabbi said what to tell me we're arguing it's actually rav actually said it babe [Music] if you take a plank of wood that's for him it's kosher bishop ram says that puzzle is for ammo it's not fourth of alcohol so it's perfect for it's falcon was a joke mushroom xavier that's why it's caution but according to shmuel it says that in the middle of the sukkah fourth pastels i might share why is this plank of wood kosher is that sad it's not in the middle of the sukkah it's on the side of the sukkah the side of the circle you have up to four almonds starfin going back to the sugiyo andaphyudalid remember we had this picture uh a sheet if i have two sheets together the mits tariff for the fourth fuchem schnein is a masterful however two pieces of wood as so another ahmed starv we said that was one she thought remain this isn't starring that we did already said we should know this if you came today and you know somebody didn't come to this year just ask him what's david akuma does mean this means this you know it's like this right he says it's like this it's not like this okay at least we learned one thing today [Music] with star famous star from according to rav it doesn't matter where this puzzle is it's for almost what does it mean it's tariff it means i'm trying to get the forams what if the hope soul is fort fachem what are we talking about with this with these what these in the sorry made this board if each plank of wood has sports fakhem loma livestar what i need two each plank is four four equals puzzle every time i put bamboo on my sukkah it's less than four falcon and of course they're not my star if i can't say all my bamboo gets together and makes one piece of scrap muscle you can't take two pieces of wood and make them one so if it has four it's for him it's possible i don't need two and if it has less than four it's welcome why are two pieces no good says and we had this gemara word for word of course we're talking about pieces planks award that have fourteen so if there's four starfin why do you need them to be mistarive they're already apostles start from the obama end of the story have a wonderful shabbos in other words we are talking about from the side which is for amis yeah i forgot sorry if you're already at the end of this year you don't care let's just finish this line we're we're not talking about the middle of the circle we're talking about the side of the sukkah the side of the sukkah is only possible with four amis now for him so a bunch of fort fahrems our mitstar if two the four amish to make a puzzle and that's what he means we'll do the rest tomorrow bazer hashem at 10 30. it looks like we have a very short on the base again have a wonderful week a wonderful shabbos wonderful shabbos rabbi sai i'll get the ball you