Daf Yomi Succah Daf 04 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] to welcome all the new listeners and in particular the new participants from across london we are looking forward to welcoming 150 plus new members please email mdy london gmail.com to receive news of local events and to be added to the local whatsapp group with thanks mdy london by jakob wagner the cousin also welcoming all the new listeners participants a good few of his friends just joined in honor of rebellion for all amazing education entertaining shurim and for helping me be messiah my first masseter in years and in honor of stephen sakaloa zach karzai for introducing me to your belly the sheer and for pushing me to join the sheer in the nby family by the way right now in that tereshloymi on 29 2905 ave uk the some of the new york trevor gathered to have some of the most amazing my favorite what's my favorite pizza or boise piece of time that's right he's nine thank you thank you jude cohen's sponsoring yeah yeah right it's a pizza time uh you know that i don't know i 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general hearing go through gamora's quickly to the point of slowly but surely healing my postpartum post ppsd what is it post not pardon paul's uh traumatic it was what's expressed did i say postpartum yeah yeah she's not watching and for that i am forever grateful on a completely separate note is true is it true that you are a pilot the reason i ask is because i've been thinking for years about getting a private pilot's license and even got gotten some lessons but i have absolutely no idea why i do not understand what is what's driving me the reason i'm so intrigued is that my mother's maiden name is stefanski and i'm wondering if it may be it's a genetic thing looking forward to hearing back from you i thought everybody wants to be a pilot what is this genetic thing it happens to be a guy knocked on my door right when i moved here to stroll here he says his name is stefanski oh nice to meet you all the fans are related and he tells me that his father was a pilot and it's a famous story this is fantasy that was nifter as a pilot he flew a plane turns out i remember speaking to him you know you know son so that that's the guy okay i don't remember the exact details about basically i was born just a few months after this person was lifter so i was thinking one pilot stefanski was nifty the other one was born no rabbi said everybody wants to be a pilot i know it sam says we just made a cm with three generations on vacation smith mountain lake virginia first team on record in bedford county virginia my father-in-law loves to listen to the daft on the way to taking the garbage to the dump and while kayaking sam here's the mesh pacha in case you don't believe it's three generations beautiful okay wow adam lobato derebelli and the incredible mdy team i just got home it's around midnight and there's no way i can't sleep buzzing too much from the phenomenal seal we just had in london some photos attached we had between 35 and 40 people schmoozing connecting uniting 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our resources together so everybody doing the same thing over and over like the bobble head thing you can just push button print it about okay this is adam about her boyzai and this is ellie i believe adam okay i think i'm not sure who this is you guys know this baldarshin is at the sim who have elon okay and finally a picture of the guys at the seam nice lever base of shem next team is going to double up they got 150 more people they said and finally one last one i know we have to go dairy valley london uk is now a truly active daft hayoyemi hub the scene was highly inspirational dignified singing aiming to rectify the very cause of exile and isolation you're sure your share is really the american original presentation and assistance and underly an understanding complex torah of our sages an interactive matter purifying the ear we breathe purifying the air we breathe jonathan's third okay i can't do this one it's too long okay next avrom zoro from curious safer we'll get to you a different time zog the halo gemara today is daf dalid and we are holding the last last lines two lines from the bottom so we learned through the mystery according to a sugar that's above 20 ammo is also what happened he tried to make the circle less than 20 ammo by filling the inside with pillows and blankets mattresses loi have a meal that's not considered reducing the height why because it's going to be a loss for him it's not a meal you cannot reduce the height of sukkot with something that you're going to take out soon it's valuables and valuables don't reduce the size of the sucker top of the ramune even though he himself said i want this bottle i don't want this i want it nullified it should be part of the sukkot the kulu maybe mishom the butler itself there's a concept that if a person does or says acts in a way that most human beings don't then his dad is bothell even though he said so i want to be with bottle i don't care about my blankets and my pillows but 99 of the human beings do care therefore that's not considered a bitter in general we have a concept wrath from chicago time towards you always used to say how do you know if somebody is firmer than you you look take a look at him you take a look at yourself how long is your shoulder answering so if your shoulders five minutes and he dives five and a half minutes he's a format sugar the guy is nuts and how do you know who person is ashay gets you look at him if his menace is only four and a half minutes so he's a shay gets because everything's based on what you do that's how people think they go i'm like this and anybody that's a little bit to the left of me is crazy everybody right his mom is not it's like that so that's what but in this case we'll tell him no you are wrong it has to be the most people are not like you so the very interesting story is the person that came through yesterday and he told her yeah i'm getting divorced why because my wife she doesn't listen to me every i tell her every single time i had a clue i repeat it and i teach her and i talk to her nicely and i yell nothing else i'm done so ryan got annoyed at him looks like you have a very good life you're too spoiled and something like that for that effect possibly just said it the guy walked out of the house and he stumbled and he broke like a spine or something he's in the hospital and his wife took care of him for months and then the guy realized he was bothered to call him sugar you want to divorce his wife because there's some dirt in the corner and he hopped afterwards at the top that maybe after all his wife is normal he's good enough but with that heaven now if he has straw and he's my battle it and he says i don't want it anymore those days they used to use straw for cement straw for their animals and today so that is a meal the culture can offer a bitly now there's going to be a little bit of a confusion back and forth bitcoin i'm about to let so i did this very very simple mamas dumbed down green is good it becomes bottle red is not butter blue is where the macholicus is so let's just get it straight it's very very simple what it becomes bottle if you are melvaco you say this straw i don't want it anymore i'm putting it in my socket it's going to stay there forever for for seven days as rashi says then it's bottle offer it's dirt of course dirt is has less value than straw so if you're in a battle dirt there's no shiloh everybody agrees bottle now on the flip side what does everybody agree that's not bubble if he doesn't mention anything about heaven he doesn't say if if he wants to be movato the straw or not or not so automatically we're going to assume that's fusion so maleficent is here automatically you're going to say that it's not buckled because people use it they need it for the renault they need to cement afar and us if he's for sure going to use this dirt because he's doing construction his home and needs the dirt so again it's not bottle what about tevin vasile of course even offered so these are the givens having a bit like offer bitloy is for sure good heaven stam and offer so there's three categories one category is the best then there's a category of stam which is nothing and there's a category in the between the enos of the finale okay he's not going to take it up he's not me though he just said i'm not going to take it out so heaven over and over both i put them together tevin and offer which he's not going to remove or offer stam he doesn't say whether or not he's going to take out the dirt that's much longer regardless he says it's bottle let's see inside it's only a few lines i know it's like it's like a lot of information but it's not it's not difficult it says it more like this if you take straw in the vatican have a mute everybody grease since you're in a battle bottle because you can offer a bit lower you don't have to say when it comes to dirt that has zero value and you have a thought that it's bottle heaven if you have straw that you're not going to remove and off our stam nobody knows what you want you don't know what you want mach likes not by loot so here there's not a good picture in kalashan i took a tiny picture and enlarged it and threw in a cartoon here just stop to explain what's going on here this is if there's a dead man and he's even he's holding his sigh he's so dead he's only assigned to describe his status he's very dead if you are in this room right over here without straw so everything in the room becomes tommy but the tomah does not go past the roof the tomb is able the room is able to contain the tumor within it it doesn't burst through the roof but when does it burst through the roof it's called tumeritsuza to burst through if you fill up if there's no tephach tuma needs at least a tefl to hang out in if you don't give it a tap off it gets mad and it breaks through so if you fill up the entire house with straw depends if you movato the straw you say it's going to last stay here forever then it becomes part of the house then it comes out that this dead person doesn't have a tefl if it doesn't have a tough off what's going to happen is the tumor is going to go with this arrow and hit the clay that's on top of the roof and the clay is going to become tommy so it's the same idea if you battle this straw or not the battle destroyer if you take the tavern and you say it's bottle or dirt sorry stone then it becomes part of the house bitly in the light it's only if you say specifically i am a battle like rashi says for seven days they have to say with your mouth that's bitter you can't just think in your head i'm about to have to say i am what about straw that you don't have any intent to take out harihuka for mubarak so rybje is the one that's making he says that if you don't have intent to take out this straw it's like dirt regular dirt and it becomes bottle in other words he holds dirt on him even on dirt dirt is not buckled he holds those two things on the category of bottle dirt which he has no idea what he's going to do with it and straw that he has no intent to remove but he never said specifically i want to remove i'm not going to remove it off of us and this is it this is the last line in the sugar we're done all foreign if he is going to remove the dirt because he needs the dirt to make cement with hi real quick so then it's like regular straw regular straw that he wasn't a battle doesn't become a bottle and dirt obviously if he says specifically i am going to remove it so it doesn't become part of the sookie doesn't become part of the house and it's not a bottle okay new sugar now from here on sirius easy sailing why is it a mess from ammo you have a sucker that's parcel why because it's taller than 20 am what does he do he puts half and part of the scott the leaves of the south go into the sukkot in the toy stream ammo here we go here's the picture so now if you look at this line right over here it's less than 20 ammo what's that if there's so much of these leaves down here that provide a lot of shade it by itself is kosher now we have to understand i'm not going to go into the places over here but obviously these leaves are attached to the sock on top so you think they become bottle of the thing like that no the fact is that all this stuff down here is kosher stock forget the fact that they are attached to the branches which are on top of the point that's enough mma law we're dealing with a sukkah that's less than 20 ammos now what about the reverse what right that's what i'm saying no look at this sukko you have a sugar that's tenth paul it's let's say it's it's tense falcom and you have putzin inside you have these leaves inside says i said okay you know let's use the same magic we said with a sugar that's more than 20 almost if this the sugar by itself would be cautious why because it's exactly 10 fahrenheit but now you have leaves that go into the tenth falcon and now now you only have nine so maybe it depends how many leaves you have if you have enough leaves that are kosher straw they provide more shade than sun then it's possible because now your silk is less than 10 vodka and if they're not a lot of leaves because there's a lot of sun that goes through there's just every every two inches is a leap then it's caution this is rubber beautifully you have to move out of your house and go into a house a temporary aspect has to be a house who can live in a place that has all these leaves coming down so yes you're right that it's not kosher stuff but it's a disgusting place to live in and you can't live in a disgusting place you can't have a sukkah that's disgusting we have another problem called adiras rujo it's beautiful safara so as soon as i heard the word of course i have to share with you my my uh you know in real estate there's a lot of divas and i had the the unbelievable uh skus to walk thousands of apartments is any time you buy if you're going to buy a property walk every single apartment go there there are people believe it or not many people that have let's see dogs and they leave the waist of the dog all over their house i'm my sister i've seen it many many times directly but there are people like this there's a picture of a hoarder it's a disease they they basically they save everything everything everything you can now it's a dilemma because if you're in real estate it's convulded they can never leave your property and if you raise the rents they have nothing to they can't say no because they cannot take their stuff it'll take them weeks to move out on the flip side if the fire department finds out about it this uh it's a hazard and they make you get rid of it the kids are i had a i had a guy you're having issues with it i hope you're recording okay anyways they told me to come to look at this apartment i went to look at the department i'll say after sheer there's a lot of interesting details about this uh this apartment the guy opened it up i'm not gonna say what he wasn't wearing whatever he opened up the door i walked through this apartment i couldn't believe it about 500 toothpaste and soaps and this and that adidas there's a one foot path you can walk in one room i have a picture of it there was a six inch gap by the door that you could look on top and a cat was on top and she looked the entire room from beginning to end was full of papers and stuff la maison your tumor suits huh i told the story here here come come and find me what do you think of course i told the story but whatever i'm not gonna hey come come come i wanna embarrass you grab him you asked for it here show what you did okay go back double feinberg okay anyway the bottom line is the guy committed suicide a week later and they found in his house 70 guns 70 and whatever details later but my point is that's not a that's not a dearest rule why is that not a difference through anybody know why this is not a direct rule i didn't say anything oh why is this not a direct very good jose because this is nearest rule to the side there's through we're talking about the ceiling coming down a sukkah is the star creating problems not the walls being narrow okay marvel now that we have i don't what time is it gary oh man okay 40. all right [Music] goodbye man i'm sorry everybody has the picture in there gemara if you want to see a colorful picture of it he built a stage a platform made out of stone it's a permanent stage permanent platform in ahsuka from the top of the platform to the scott is less than 20 amma the sook itself is more than 20 alma but the platform is not the ej and it's the the platform is seven by seven at least shayra so it's kosher what is kosher rabbi sai the platform and the entire sukkah huh rashi the entire sukkah says rashi very good why the entire sukkah only one part of it is kosher so rashi says this is the halakhah that we're going to learn and it's called salah and that is if you look over here there's two there's there's three walls over here but the wall is very narrow this orange area doesn't have walls at all that's one wall it's not kosher and the this in the entire area covering covering the orange thing thanks it underneath even though it only has one wall why because since you have because of three walls so this is just an extension of that sukkah this khak comes out without walls it's kosher over here also the stab of the platform is kosher the rest of the shaft comes out you're right it's above 20 ammo and 20 arm is possible but over here also there's no walls it's also possible yet you let us sit without walls why this is an extension to something that's cautious um what if the platform is on the side of the sukkah in other words it's only touching two walls one two it's not it doesn't have a third wall what do we do if from this platform until here is more than four hours then it's possible how where's the third wall where's the third wall why is it kasha we know and we're going to talk about lava for a minute later on love it is that anything within 3 him tells us that it's it's as if it's attached but this is four almost this is eight feet away so we have to come on to a new concept that we never heard of from the beginning called kuma a bent wall that is that we view this not as possible but as part of the wall so it's as if the wall went like this but actually the wall is touching the end of the tstaba we go from here down like this you won't be able to sit on in this area because this area is a wall you can't you can't sit under a wall but this area the the platform has three walls we move the wall over how long am i sure you see like these are things that are not even logical this when it comes to this certain things that are not why what's enough camino depends so each one's gonna say their thing rash is talking about seventh phone because we're going according to that and that's for us is brand new you say that it's the kind of deuteronomy that you don't need you don't need to tell us over here that we learn you have a house that has a skylight smack in the middle of the roof flat roof you have a skylight so you put a bunch of scotch on it is this kosher depends if the roof that's possible the roof part is possible all around if it's less than four ammos it's kosher why because once again we're gonna say that this part of the roof is not a roof it's a it's a crooked wall they had some of these guys i don't want to say our cousins over here very good builders they build a stickle crooked crooked walls they go this way so that's how local we're going to learn later about david akuma there's no need for us to tell it over here look in this house these are perfect walls the issue is that the walls are not touching the sky so i could say but over here in our case the walls are more than 20 almonds they're not walls halal more than 20 is not a good wall emily maybe i don't invoke an akuma on a non-kosher wall commercial on even a nacho wall i say a master mammal mt also look at this case he builds a platform smack in the middle of the sukkah there's not a single wall touching his platform so this would be now we're going to say the same allah as we said in this case with the house that has i was in a guy's house in muncie beautiful house he pushed the button the whole giant sky like this is what i do in sukis all hydraulic moved off but it wasn't there's still part of the ceiling everywhere all all around you have to come on to deuteronokuma so here's the case similar to this why because over here also you don't have four walls they're not touching at all and his platform makes it that from the top of the platform to the stock has less than 20 hours so it's not possible down here it is puzzle but if i could say that there's four walls or at least three walls that are crooked and they all touch halal i look how much you see they touch his platform then it's kosher sable what's the big tradition we already said that [Music] what about this this is going to come on awful side we already said they're going to come on all four sides but over here it's all kosher over here we're doing two things we're using akuma on all four sides and all four walls are puzzled because they're more than 20 amps so that's the that's what they're showing them to speak out here huh that's like a mission i think well this is allah by the way i forgot to say in the beginning rashford points out that ravashi who wrote the gemara he was giving a lock in his basement is [Music] beautiful case this is less than 10 fahrenheit what he does it's not 100 clear here but this colored area he dug down so when he dug down total he has 10 falcons let's call this top part five talk and then he dug down five so when he's on the bottom over here and the bottom that he dug out is seven by seven at least seven seven and the master rash says over here we're talking about lava so you see over here they did a nice job to show you if it's more than three it's the edge that's possible less than three's welcome then we can we bridge the gap anytime there's less than three o'clock him we bridge the gap and therefore the total height is tenth vacuum and it's kosher returning to the roman phase sponsored by the mdy hill and group for all those who need shidduchim before you show us please join film.eightmendaff.com diamond responsibilities how come in the case of akuma before you build a a stage a platform middle of the room in the middle of the sukkah we say well if it's less than four hours that's huge that's eight feet you have eight feet to play around over here also you're talking about a foot why or three hours how much is three that's uh yeah whatever yeah cause the armor they say is two feet manchester united scenario says more beautifully over here there's no wall what happened you have five below blow grade where you dug out and five talk from above with your divina coma with your bent wall you want to create a wall you can't create a wall with the doif and akuma you could you can move a wall an existing wall with a dive in akuma you can't create a wall from scratch you can say five plus five equals ten with a different akuma but if over here in in the other case we have a 20 ammo wall it's a good wall it's just in the wrong place pushes it over this little boyfriend you have a good wall [Music] it's basically the same case that we said a second ago he built a platform the only difference is that this platform this is 10 tall how about how tall does the makita have to be of us so over here he built a platform that has the height of a mojito so and this platform has a seven by seven hamster sucker plus it has ten feet ten feet tall good ah tenth tall thank you and welcome to all good asik mukhin what's good asking this we did have in aruban if you look closely at this picture they did like a yellow halo kind of thing orange these are fake walls you take the walls up these are all allah we're not going to understand it logically you take the walls of the he thought if i thought to invoke this but we don't since the wall of the of the platform is tenth for him so you continue the wall upwards why shouldn't they go upwards and he'll kashabs that works it's a good makita for shabbos so think it's good when do i say good asset when i have a little bit of a lip so that lip continues upwards or the it's hollow like like a like a sukkah the walls can continue up so over here it's a solid brick there's no heat you don't have four defined walls here what you have is a lump of cement that's a that's that's seventh fahrenheit by by ten twelve tall that's not four megas great now i saw a beautiful lavush the bush says the reason why we don't say good asking over here by sukas because when it comes to shabbos you need a machita fight so i have messenger fake you have to move into an apartment it has to be adira you can't make it deera with messina it's not a d it's you have to live in a place that you would typically live during the year typically during the year you never live in fake mechitas made up you need and therefore we don't say good asic raise up these walls without messing up because you need taisha came to do ok he took four poles doesn't say where how when but he took four poles he planted them not and he puts hak over them like uh like we do for you know four poles and a piece of fabric on top so four poles and action i hear myself is that you guys up there thank you says the homochoice is when it's on the edge of the roof just so just like this picture so it's on the edge of the roof this yellow are the imaginary walls going up here's walls and these are different than the case that we said before these are real walls because when you're inside the house they're recognizable you see the walls they're they act as walls so walls that act as walls could have logically go upwards maybe according to rabiaco i say that that it goes upwards i mean listen to this let's remember this line here for a second because the gemara is going to say something exactly opposite and it's going to be a big casual rabona but if it's smack in middle like this picture in the middle of the rooftop that it doesn't have mercitus that could go upwards there is that guy planted four poles where the mercies are going upwards they're not next to the poles according to everybody this case is puzzle now if i prove to you abrasive that says this case is mahleigh that would be a big casual revolution because he says it says no the macholic is unbelievable in this case you see what's going on here in this case where are the walls anybody see walls here no walls what do we do have we have kunduzon that are one tavern by one tefl so they act like an l-shape sort of and that's the wall and there's a man oh my god that says that it's kosher what yeah nothing to do with the walls we're not using the walls of the house at all zero realm asking more questions it seems like that the whole macholicus is the middle of the roof meaning if i have a better case than this and i'm able to move these poles to the end of the roof and i could use the the walls of the house maybe they wouldn't be much like this that's like the real culture maybe in the case where this case right over here maybe everybody agrees according to that that it's kosher why because i say good assignment these walls go upward or dilma with your ass babies both of these cases says i don't know to figure that out now just uh what happens and it happens a lot my neighbor you see if you walk down the street you'll see people that do it you haven't been past it you have a a porch and you enclose it with windows and on circus you open the window most toys can hold that the suckers puzzle puzzle it's open there's no wall you ruined it not only that they say that on sukkah it would be us of you to close the window because if you close the window now you're creating a makita it's awesome very interesting aloha what florida ceiling i'm not talking about a little tiny window i'm talking about a he enclosed the entire thing with a floor to ceiling window he has like a merced uh you know these glass doors whatever it is and his walls are made out of if he has three walls that's great but let's say people have these rooms a sunroom that is made completely out of windows and you open i know people have these sunrooms in america you know that the glass that goes sideways you know little pieces of slats of glass and you pull down a lever all them now all of a sudden it's wide open over there you have love it okay different you take these doors these these these sliding doors and replace the door you have three sides made out of glass you always start opening up doors now you don't have mojitos fine something to think about now here comes the question oh it's all about condition bars of a secret guy bomb he did it smack in middle of of nowhere here instead of instead of on top of a rooftop he did in the middle of his parking lot he had to fork him decent rabiago over here there's zero wall here nothing forget about the it's in the middle of the roof it's on a flat surface ribyakin nevertheless says it's caution [Music] if it's the middle of a parking lot it's certainly no worse it's a lot worse but in the middle of the middle of oh look at the guys from malaysian guys in new york eating pizza time we're all jealous thanks and everybody who organized it um [Music] and over here we have a bryson mafoosh that says that according to your reactive it's not possible it's 100 percent consider this but another question been sucked up with the plighty it seems like the hallmark like this is in smack in the middle of the roof like in this in this case avalos vasagara called shera but on the edge of the roof it's kosher laminated perhaps this could be another castle i only mentioned one of the two cases but they argue in both cases even on the edge of the roof they argue they argue in this case in both of these cases there's a much like this so why did i pick this one very simple because i'm telling you that according to your biacoin even in this case where i cannot use the walls as a good isaac he still holds his caution because the terror of i'm telling you a tremendous criticism that even though this is the middle of a roof and i cannot use any walls from the building this is kosher why i'm going to use these flimsy one by one poles and create a majita out of it and that's unbelievable so what happens if instead of squares you have circles circular beams you take trees real trees and put them does that also work so it depends royin calls hakuku we're full of this this is the human in the time of a little regular klein's role came to be oily regular productive they needed to drink the trip was long and they were very thirsty and they had wells in the middle of versus you cannot draw water from a well which is interesting so what they devised is something called the duman they take two pieces of wood these are actually in amma and amma we're talking about it different but the same concept and the rabona said that logically it's as if this is enclosed the walls continue these l-shaped brackets continue and they're enclosed by four walls this turns into restriction so mela i'm gonna take my tree trunk and do something like this i'm gonna pretend i'm gonna see if i could cut it out imaginary cut and take a round and make it into a square if i could get a one by one like in this red thing wall then i have a diamond then i have l shape within the round tree and that's enough to make a wall vimlav all you need for a human in a circus humid and when it comes to sahayah then you need a hammer over it doesn't work with humid why because as you're going to see in the entire septum in order to be yikes in order to have enough walls you need two proper walls of seven by seven twelve seven twelve and seven and the third one afield the third one could be like you said in the agdama it's like that says one two and this one is a theft like a hug and a humid a beam doesn't work have a wonderful day you