Daf Yomi Shevuos Daf 39 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] Good [Music] morning. What's your name? Sage from where? And remote. And you guys, what's your names? And you? I saw you already. Yeah. Shalom, guys. So we had over here my kus's son-in-law Piltz the grandson of the famous rebar of he wants to say thank you to a special Jew Yonitsur from Givatv last night he was discharged from the hospital with his baby girl and he discovered he had a flat tire so he called you and who showed up really who's the head guy invites he had he runs the live shar so he fixed the tire and he he went from one part of your line to the other part all the way from remote you hear from remote to shar how far is that 20 minutes 20 minutes in line so he took it he went from remote to to fix somebody's tire and then from there to benbra MDY is not about to die. MDY's family. Thank you so much. He's with pills. Every Shabas I try to get a head start shabas. Oh, I love this email. You guys are going to love it from Goldstein. This week when I learned the dam, I got so confused. I couldn't wrap my head around the suga. The only thing that was going through my head was a song from night. We couldn't come up with one niggan that that anybody was masking to last night. Does anybody have What's the niggan? What is it? No. Are you see? Yeah, I got it now. Here. Here comes the niggan. Here it is. I can't do it now. Ley, you're not being able to do it. How's it go? That's the main song. The main one. Okay. Everybody said they had the main one, but nobody agreed on anyone. I don't know that main one. Okay. All right. So, thank you of course Bosshi for well illustrating great deliverance of the sh I'm feeling last night. I was learning the about the tale of pigle. Okay. Kids are fine. Next spirit son making a se on Sanhedrin as bariti. You hear this sweet spirit does the d with us. His son does the da with us. His son-in-law Izzy does the daas on the right. kids sir and here's a kid making a on the entire it's unbelievable so to remind 10 days from now starts of a desire it happens to be that today one and a half the first and real ag not not fake real agit says he found this spotted in bar park yesterday we had mdy mdy now this Daff MDY dear Belli just wanted just I was just by the yearly my fire department dinner where they honored my younger brother Mosha few members of the fire department came over and wanted you to be aware they're still doing the D strong I love regards and here's a good one regards from your friend oh Jackson ambassador Aron Aronov Aronov Um, oh, I'm sorry to say the Mercy Wiseman wise men that we have a team. Somebody, some people sponsored the team. Uh, they lost the playoff game and the season is over. Maybe we should stick to learning. I hope you enjoyed the jersey as a momento from our season. Shalom Efim Ree, MDY athletic director. Now, I got to tell you, Le going to your mom's going to have not such a from this. My son Yo, he's almost 15. He plays in one of the the fast ball, you know, baseball. It's big part of his hard ball, big part of his life. And all the all the the games are during Sheer on uh Friday afternoon. So, I haven't been to a single game. I really wanted to see, but there was the last game of the season here. Last game of the season, he's up and they're down. gets a he what basically some I don't know if they he was able to win the game. He's on third base. He finally makes it to third base. He steals home and he's safe. He stole home. They called him out cuz he didn't slide even though he beat the ball. That's the rule. That's the rule. You see, you don't even know the rule. You said you played pitcher and shortstop and you didn't know the rule. I said the rule is the rule. He beat it and he was going to win the game for them. Game's over. season over. That's That's tough. And he beat them. Stoleh Hope. So, we lost for them. Yeah. He's not my only kid that has to go through life like that. When I was when I was the uh I was a coach for my my son who's he was like only like I don't know eight nine years old at Kea and he was he was up with bases loaded. Last last pitch of the game struck out. Ay there went the season. Okay, they could explain a lot of stuff. Monthly sponsors actualize in honor of David Mkin of Eastern Univerka. TCS Israel powered by Talk and Save. Weekly sponsors anonymous in honor of rebellious family and the whole MDY staff to continue to spread. Daily sponsor anonymous. Mayor my cousin may today's learning be source of comfort for the family anonymous in honor of our son that he should continue to learn with as much energy as possible and the white kids monthly LLC did I say LCations for art of the month for rebelling the holy staff to continue to make so many in honor of Yi Klein and Marish Kazi for all the work they [Music] do. As promised, we have a a big DA of and afterwards. Here's the question. Everybody knows that means somebody admits. What are you sitting over there? Mayor Maz. So changes the whole dynamic of the sh the double di combo over here. It's very so we know that if a person denies part of the claim somebody says you owe $100 and he says no I only owe $1. He is what is the minimum that he must deny? What is the minimum of did anybody ever think of that? He admits to a pr that we said everybody agrees. Is there a minimum of what he must deny? Let's say he denies one pa and admits to one. Does he have? Is there a minimal a minimum of denial? Huh? You say yes. So I'm going to say that for that you're going to have to wait unfortunately till we're done with the answer is that's what we're going to see. That's the whole suga. Basically, how much denial is there? We never thought about it. You have denied. Maybe you have to deny a certain amount. Rav says you have to deny a large amount. It can't be a prud is not enough. Has to be a two of denial and a one admission. Okay. So, that we're going to see here comes that. Oh, okay. Sorry, didn't get there yet. We're talking about 10 lines from the bottom talking about which means somebody admits to part of the claim. He has to swear. How does it work? We're going to give him the said in the made in the name of this go. You need the the main name of hemut. Did I tell you this? The grandfather. I don't think I said it yesterday. This is to the whole I'll say it over here. The Beneskai's grandfather, he had a guy come in for a shua and we'll see. Rashi says, "We don't do shua anymore. He comes in for the shah and the menkai saw that this guy is he's about to swear falsely. So he told him, "Listen, I'm not going to I'm not going to make you swear grandfather's grandfather." He says, "I'm not going to make you swear like everybody else. I'm going to step it up. I'm going to make you swear with the two the two." He tells this guy, "Listen, go to the mikvah to 10 times and come back with two." He says, "I have the power of bringing the two here and you're going to have to swear in the two." Guy says, "No, no, I'm not going to the two." Truth is, I didn't, you know, I owe the money. That's the truth. But Rabbi, since I admitted, I want you to show me the two. I want to see the two loas. He says, "Ah, you want to see the tulas?" pulls out here. the safer of the show says you don't need even one of the nicknames of it's interesting a lot of him say and this is like wow thatu he had he had alzar naked You have to hold now have he didn't have filling him with anything. They say the only thing he grabbed was the he says but a lot says no it means under the thigh it's close enough it doesn't have to be. So we have to be is you have to hold on to we have you know I didn't put the I didn't put the here something like this don't even show this this is for you know what we'll use it why not here you have to hold while you're saying the the you have to be holding on to now is feeling good enough or not if And and over here you have to insert with your pencil and not with the if somebody if a Dian tells the guy say Hashem's name while you say the but he forgot to tell him all the it's as if he messed up on a and therefore the whole thing you have to repeat the entire what's the Rav said that you have to hold on to to it's the mitzvah but ra is not a tana rav is a t in a way So Ravan Paul in a way he has a but okay it's close enough to being a Mishna and it's as if you didn't know and if you don't know you're and you don't know straight out the Mishna you have to repeat we don't pass like this but says that if you swear within is not enough you need to save a there are people that are very m not to talk with the fillin on we have a guy here at night gives money in a has all these incentives he shouldn't talk within so one of the reasons is because let's say you lie with your fillin it's a lie it's as if you have an it's as if you lied with saying hem's name because you're wearing the fill you're holding on to the you have to hold on to the fillin is enough. It's better to use a but if you use fill in it's not the end of the world that if you don't hold anything it's no good you have to take it back at the end of the day you're holding on to that's enough when you say the you have to be standing [Music] sits should [Music] So Rashi says over here I don't have it I had the the editor take it from the other from the before even though we don't in other words is enough says yeah it's like seven lines from the battle it seems like there used to be the in the time of just the said no more why that's today's that's what we're going to learn on the terrible it is to swear falsely that the whole family gets punished the whole gets punished everybody gets punished with your simple it's not so simple so what do you do instead of so they said there's a curse no with Hashem's name but if you if you owe money you don't pay you get a curse with in front of 10 says and if person then it's not even to use you can even use filling because the the combination of is plus the is good enough right so hold on we got to go quick here we're talking about the you can even say it in English you can say it She can say it in any language. You should know when said in the part of the whole world shook. A lot of people might not realize, but it says on. Yeah, that's the whole mountain literally literally shook. We saw him say whoever thinks it wasn't literal. It's just a a muscle. It doesn't always it literally shook. But anyway, the whole world shook. is going to explain why and all says I will clean you off. There's a way to get cleansed. There's no way to be cleansed. Says that even if you do that's not enough. A person will suffer a [Music] punishment and all exacts punishment to himself. and from his family as well with family as well. Says your your flesh and flesh means your family. Oh, reminds me. Who was it? You you'll remember. Oh, I think it was told a big to go collect money for his relative. So, so the relative said but I'm I'm you know I'm I'm going to go from door to door. So he said that when it says in the uh doesn't have to return something about when it's your your relative you do have to when when it comes to your relative there's no such thing as and you have to go from door to door and he made this go from door to door collect money listen to the takes will give the a punishment to the entire world because of your the and he and he denies it. There's parenthesis here but it's also on the bottom. So we'll say it over here says what's the because if you look at this that's what we're talking about the that you deny but it also says in the same posing there's a lot of things in this how do you know that this this uh punishment to the whole world is only on the the first two words maybe it's on the rest says no because there's another that says because of the the whole world is in mourning in aos they asked how come just go don't go straight straight to this they're trying to talk about it the other p is more talks more about the revenge so it's better the first also says this is why the whole world will be in if he has something good so Hashem doesn't take revenge right away he waits two three generations Don't swear falsely. It's a terrible, terrible thing. Exact revenge immediately. So now we're going to say this and we're going to explain all the words in it. It's two two lines here. Destroy the the all the wood and the and the stones. First word I'll take revenge right away. It's not talking about a regular somebody who steals somebody else's mind. In other words, he tricks people. He doesn't. Nobody owes him money. And he goes over to the guy says, "Listen, you owe me 100 bucks." And the guy and he sometimes people don't want to swear because of all this that's going on here. Terrible stories. I don't want to go into any detailed stories but there's stories that I read about people that there's one who made somebody swear and he was very very worried about he says I don't want to swear the owner of the he said you have to swear and at the end he they all fasted the whole thing and he still felt that his family was punished because he swore even though it's very very did I say this makes him he goes he claims money and he makes him swear somebody who swears falsely from here you see certain things that water and fire cannot destroy like stones but a false will destroy even stones destroy buildings destroy physical things that fire can if a person is very worried about the he says I don't want to swear I'm not swearing immediately they say go home don't worry about it pay up and that's it and if he says I want to swear everybody standing there says one the other get out of here from is these rash. Now, one of these people is a Russia. The guy claiming he owes $1,000. He might be saying the truth. The guy denying it might be the Russia or the or the reverse. The guy claiming $1,000 is lying. He's the Russia. The guy saying he doesn't know is a Russia. But why are both of them? Says both of them are gonna ask this. We're not making you swear on what we think that's there's a guy I love this mis there's a guy comes to a different city for and he was dancing like he's dancing like the people in the city were telling their kids look at this guy he's like he's such a so eventually they start asking for brahas He's such a guy like such a sim. And after yand was over so people came over to him and said tell us how how are you how how to dance like this he says I'll tell you the truth I haven't learned this here even one word not even one word but I love the tyra the is so unbelievable because I was holding the by when I was swearing in bezdon I was able to trick other people and I made so much money with my false swearing that I love the I have a car to the meanwhile people went for brahas and thing. Ah, love it. What? In that story. Yes. That's why I like it so much. You You're saying like before you go to somebody for check it out a little bit. Yeah. Okay. Give out. Well, you you had you had a personal experience. Okay. No, a different time. A different time. I see that you did what people see in Shay and they tell you what they see in Shay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That's we already had the we're going to make you swear based on what says you had swear then already we said it wasn't by later at the end of the I'm not making you swear based on what I'm thinking I'm combining myself with Now we're just switching gears slightly had everybody that was there by by today's after because we had the extension of until yesterday. Today we say the first mean they already said is an ext not but the idea is that that that it's not a one time thing it's every day we accept over and over so maybe only those who stood by They accepted the Tory the later generations people the maybe or the people that weren't there and and converts how do you know that they are also part of it even that aren't there whoever is not there even the certainly weren't there they also accepted upon themselves they that it goes to them as Maybe there's only the mites that were available then additional that came to for instance to read the what they already agreed to at they agreed to all the the future MS as well. If you remember the last last line on B it says He will shine in it also can be said in any language says my smack in the middle of we're holding what does it mean even that so it goes like this listen to this can you say in English can you say in English in English in English I don't think so you I don't think so. [Music] These are the things they can say in every any language. So the she goes the husband warns her not to someone they catch her they bring. So the whole parish that that we just had this week two days ago the whole par that the puts in the water could be also in English. The what? The Yeah. Well, I don't know. Yeah. The the exact of the could be in English, not only our the the all that has to be in in this is if you didn't see this yet, this is my shiny I mean in the last whatever week or two. So person has fruit 1%. I got to stop for a second. I I just thought of something. So I wanna I want to bring Abi Kamyansk's son here. He's like 11 years old and he's been he's not he's not here in the room now, but he came over to me on Friday night. He told me that he does the shear now. He does MDY kids. He's there for three days. So in front of Avi, I I asked him, I said, "So tell me something that you learned." So he tells me this whole complicated case of where uh a guy is the father and he's the grandfather and he's the uncle of this kid and he starts telling me and he says he he doesn't look inside the gimar he knows it all from the diagram so he remember the diagram he tells me and he married her and then she had a kid and then with that kid he had two daughters married the daughter whole thing so what else so he tells me all the trers this in three days first he gives true 1% then he give nicer 10% then micer shi 10% to the lady m is the 10% you give to yourself and here's the thing that that applies in years 1 2 4 and five so years three and six you have to give mseri years four and seven is when you may have to make sure you don't have any miser in your house everything is gone and you say the vid say the par that para the vid could be said in any language could be in English and benching. How long does it take to bench your boy? How long does it take to bench anybody? Huh? Three and a half minutes. Around three minutes. How much are you using? Oh, I'm not talking about I'm talking about just saying the words. No, people think it takes forever. It's only two, three minutes. So that the we learned before in the says, I want you to say testimony and you swear. You don't know any testimony. That could be in English. I give you my goldfish to watch and then you don't want to give it back. You swear now. That's why he says after this entire list the also could be said could also be said in English says huh didn't say after we said we didn't talk about it even we never mentioned it in our in this first time saying you can say something in We said the whole world shuddered when hem said don't say my name because it was given at the 10 the 10 is also given because it's super it's very severe the punishment why is it so severe These are the less severe things. Typical is not in the category of where is its very severe ones are of and in that whole list put. So we have Mrs. Bzin and the question is how come the world didn't shutter when Hashem spoke about and Mrs. doesn't the reason is because everything clean you clean won't clean you won't be completely clean you will still have some sort of state all say you won't be cleansed completely you know what the commercial When Morai Weiss was gave me his his cowboy hat for Purim and I didn't realize how important this cowboy hat was to him, but it's super important. And then during the Suda and Purim, someone who was in the room spilled an entire glass of wine on his cowboy hat. Who put the wine there? And it just And it's a lighter a lighter color hat. Lighter color hat. And the sire that he had the sire you he can't imagine he then he explained it cost $350 and he goes to the special he went to the stson factory and the guy fits it on him and it's it's actually a beautiful hat and the guy he called him shave immediately and he spoke to him for over an hour on the phone how to get the stain out and the guy explained to him how to do it and he sat there for for hours then he came to sheir at like 10 11:00 he showed me the hat he wasn't out yet he said I sat there for 2 hours a week later it went it was a little bit less and a week later tas after a month and a half of him scrubbing this hat. This you could still see a very very faint. So I said so what I gave him $350. I said here but he said I'm not going to have a hat now. That's the the problem is he won't he's not going back to America. So I said here's 350 whatever. So now I have a hat. He gave me the hat. Now we know why he went back. Now he's back in America. Yeah. He went back. So now I have a beautiful cowboy hat sitting in my dining room. But the point is that that stain, the stain never came out. It's there as much ch as you do, as much scrub. You can scrub all the tanism you want. Little bit of a stain there. It's still there. If you look closely, at least for him, he noticed it. I don't notice it so much, but it's there. You can see it's a little it's different color than the rest. Okay. says, "But it says in the Tory all look and we say every tus we say with the all the stops and everybody goes and we stop where Hashem will clean." We ignore the next part. It says he won't clean. But okay, that's where it stops. No, it's different. This is how what do you do? You have a contradiction to the can't say cleans you completely because it says a second later doesn't clean you will be cleaned completely. Okay. If you do you'll have a perfectly brand new stson. If you don't do cha then there'll be a but when it comes to it stays there. There's some sort of stain. Hashem gives the person a punishment. But over here the family also gets a punishment. The family doesn't get a punishment. Hashem takes revenge on them. I don't understand why should the family get punished for a father doing a son should get punished. The answer is Let's say the father is a a tax collector. But let's use something that he's a guy that um what's the word I'm looking for? He swindles people. He maybe I I shouldn't be thinking about this word. Okay. He's a con artist. The father's a con artist. The kids know very well what's going on in the family. The wife knows. The wife knows that the husband's a con artist. This is the father. That's his business. No, no, no, no, no. You You are in the family. You're a just like the father. You're going to take You have to say something. You have to stick up for other people. If there's a family that has somebody in there that's a that's a everybody in the family knows why. Now, obviously, if you don't have the power and you don't know, and this is Hashem won't punish you. We're talking about in a situation where you know what's going on, you can't say, "Oh, I have nothing to do. This is my father." No, you're in there. You know the situation. Do something about it. Call the police. I don't know what says good. So there's a difference in the punishment when it comes to the family will get the same punishment as the father but when it comes to uh a con artist then the family get a lesser punishment. We see by this is person bringing his son through fire forever. Say I will destroy I will give him carus. Maybe the entire family gets only he gets carus. We're going to explain this. All he himself gets the entire world is going to suffer a little bit. The entire the entire world is going to sit in morning. We had this before. Maybe it's referring to the no because of this because of this the world is going to sit in mourning. Everybody, the whole world suffers because of what you do over here. Listen to this. What does that mean, Rabbi? What's the simple of that? First of all, that we learn from here that I could be inh even even if I wasn't even if I was y already, I could be you. That's a tremendous. Now they discuss women at night and the rises versus the rabons. Okay. But the fact that I can be what's you have to make a I'm going to say the you're all one family. Now says a little bit different than what everybody thinks. He says means that if somebody's shabas over there then your shabas is missing. It's not that you have to make sure that everybody keeps the mitzvah, whatever. No. When he doesn't keep it, your shabas is missing a little bit. It should hurt you because your shabas is not full because he's not keeping. We're all What does that have to do with us? We're starting out in 10 days. Rabbi said, it should hurt you. And you should know that your daff is not the same if he's not doing the daf. Ah, it's a new now. It's a new It's a new Make sure start thinking who you going to who needs to do the DA. Huh? What? We got to get some more guys. We got to get more guys otherwise your D is going to be missing. Bman, you know what? It's the perfect time because starts right before Ben is maybe I should come to and talk to them. I speak to Rabi B. It's right before Ben is. It's going to end right, you know, right around it's perfect for Ben. It's like 60 days. How How long is your Bman? It's about two months, right? Let's go. Tell him to All right. Turning the Davations in honor of Israeli global going global on the east coast. See you there anonymous in honor of all the holy sadik that work so hard to bring us to daf every day with no credit given. Enough said. All right. Awesome. Oh, this is when do you suffer? When you see somebody doing something wrong and you don't make a again, let's not be so American and so polite. You can if you could if you have the you're sitting there, you're sitting and you see somebody doing something, you have the responsibility to be to protest and say what you're doing is wrong. Now even if you don't have that ability, you also get huh? Cuz of the of the I don't know. I hear I don't know for your own sensitivity. Even if you don't know about no not you don't know. You don't have the ability to regardless. It's everyone regardless. Yeah. Right. What about what about the neighbor down the block? What does he know about it? Why does he suffer? The whole world suffers. What the whole world? At the end of the day, we're all but we're the closer we are, the more maybe what's the difference between the of the world and of So look, he did a little train over here. [Music] You know the famous story they say that there's a breast and a and aid you'll have to help me out here and a lit in oh breast and inim and uh comes and asks the guy what are you doing here he says I don't know this he says he pulls him out by his pri what are you doing here he says he says you put him to pull pulls him out the shows up he says you see I told you get. Okay. Anyway, so here's the ganim train that the Rash was talking about. If you do an Ara, you get a tremendous that says in the Tory. If you're a Russia and you're part of the family, you get a little bit less. If you're a Russia but not part of the family, you get even less than you get a dim. And what about a saddic? Sadic gets nothing. But when it comes to shak everything moves up a little bit. It's a shame you didn't I I would like to see it side by side but okay both of these guys get the in the they move up. So therefore everybody moves up one thing. The before of the world that got a now they get a theim which got zero now they get a dal. So everybody moved up one. [Music] of the family and of the world completely when it comes to other aairs of his family. They go together in the same class or and the of the world they get a a very high level with and whether the family or not they they still get punished we continue with that if he says I don't want to swear they let him lose. So he says stay away from these says the one swearing who's lying he's he's a Russ but the person causing him to swear he's owed money what's the big deal what did he do says okay both of them are responsible says You hear this? A person is responsible for his money. So a person who's swindled out of money, he should have been more careful. Should have he should have done his research. I'm talking to myself. You research who is that person? Know the person you giving the money to and then don't come crying afterwards that he swindled. You could, but you you're slightly responsible over here. And listen to this. You are responsible for causing cuz you did what medactic to see who you gave money to. A lot of people in our community get swindled for money. A lot a lot of people. You like that rashy? Okay. sometimes the whole reason why you have to find out because of this cuz then afterwards you suddenly realize it's what he is okay it's your fault you didn't find wow you can't it's it's very bad so if you do a bad you and this and that is you have no you have to do research though that's what that's it's all I know I hear what he's saying there's an element though he's over from this rash. It's a beautiful fell into that people. So, so you can make mistakes. You can make mistakes. They can make mistakes when it comes to psychiatric meds. Do they have psychiatric history? But after that though, it could happen. I know somebody talking about this. I know somebody that has a bunch of kids that are not married. A bunch. And they have a they went down. They have a 70 question list. 70 questions. And then they say, "I don't understand why my kids are not married." Rebian had come in come in to meet the girl's parents. They set him down, gave him the hair for an hour and a half. He go before he even meets the girls, the father goes, "No, what type of girl are you looking for?" He looks him in random eyes. He goes, "An orphan." Gets up [Music] and you want to be so [Laughter] This is your friend. Oh, I can see you doing it. Why do you why do you have to make him swear with Hashem's mind? The famous that a guy did a trick. Remember this this one and Yoshi just upgraded it. The guy had to make a shuah. So he said he asked the the guy suing him for the money. He says hold my stick. And he put all the money in the stick. And he swore I don't have the money. I give it back to you. And so then the guy got so upset that he swore falsely. So he broke the stick and out came the money. Then Ra realized the trick. So people shouldn't do any tricks. Tricks are not going to work. It's with Hashem's mind. You're not going to trick Hashem. Oh boy. Here it goes. We're waiting for this moment. The whole got in the way a little bit. when there's three elements. So, we're all familiar with that. Somebody admits that he owes a little bit and that's why he has to make a but what happened beforehand? This is the the guy in purple. He claims he claims something. He says you owe me. The question is how much does he claim? How much? Is there a minimum? So then step two is that the same guy says I don't owe you the full amount but I owe you part of it. So there's a denial there's a I don't owe you a certain amount and there's what we don't have any argument is the last part. So really the last part doesn't even have to be on the chart. It's there because everybody understands it and knows it and we we might need it a little a little later. In other words, he admits that he owes at least a pr in order to make awah. You have to have something substantial. So a pr is the minimum amount of money in all the pa. But does he have to? We never thought about this. He has to deny something very important. How much according to also a pruda doesn't deny brut and according to ra he has to deny a substantial amount called two two soah if he has to deny two and also admit one pa how much is the minimum tina involved two plus a pa have two pas or no no no is much more than two brutas much So as you see the bottom line is the M is going to be is the Tina two or the T is two plus one. So here we go that says in the Mishna the word he he demanded two which is a lot to prove this I don't remember the exact amount let's call it 25 24 whatever but the denial must be two it's not enough that he admits to one he also has to deny so if a guy comes to you and says you owe me two prutas and I I deny one admit to one says ra it's no You don't you don't make on that. No, I have to I have to demand two. But the denial could also be one and I admit to one where do they get it from? Because our seems like and but the seems like why does it say in our Mishna that the he demanded look at this this is what it says in the Mishna let's go back just for a second to remember there's three steps over here I demand I deny and I admit so there's three steps but what does it say in the Mishna Look what it says in the Mishna. What's missing from the Mishna? Huh? Why doesn't what he's if he's admits to he's arrest. Okay, good. I hear a minute. But but the case but it doesn't say but it should say in the Mishna what the minimum fear is. If there's a between ra and what the minimum so just say fe was with two because ra says it's necessary you understand basically if you just read it like this then it doesn't come out like rav but says like this so from here I'm going to say that it makes a lot of sense like rav why look at this because according to rav I'm going to say that the word tina actually means the the denial was two because if the denial according to is a pruda then it's missing in the Mishna it should say in the Mishna that he denied a pruda that's enough how come the Mishna doesn't talk about it the Mishna talks about two and Raph says the denial has be two so I'm just going to say that the Tina maybe it's a little bit with where is saying the Tina the is two that's what the is talking about the is two it says it in the Mish but according to doesn't talk fear at all and we have a problem. Why does the Mishna talk about how much the denial has to be that it only has to be approved? Another is from a Mishna the Mishna in Mits. Look what it says here. Two lines in we don't know. But it says look the second line. I'm going to give you a list of all the in the entire let's read the list. That's our Mishna. You have to admit everybody knows the first. What's missing right now? What's missing? Denial of a denial of a of a of a mix has to be audishna. It seems like that the denial of a mix is what is twof because if it was only why is it not in the list? Huh? Because it's not in the mission. The mission only talks about exactly [Music] autonom what it doesn't say. Oh, one minute. You're talking about the first the fir the first the from the Mishna our Mishna. Yeah. You're going back to the first Ray. Okay. Yeah. What's your question? If if I if I could say since the mission doesn't mention denials means that the the minimum of the time is two cas but the minimum of a of mentioned we don't know what it is. So it could be something in between. It could be, but if you were right that the that that the denial is in between, should you should mention it. You're talking about why wouldn't you mention it? You forgot a very you you missed a very important element. According to Rav, you didn't miss it. It's in there. The denial has to be two. But the seems like means silver, not money. Silver. is two or vessels plural to watch just like vessels. It says in the it has to be plural. So here we see two but how much silver has to be important that he he he only admitted the sum of it. So the puzz says like this that I denied part of the twof the start out I had twof and from that twof I denied some of it. So the denial is not too denial is less than two because I started out with two KF and then I admitted to some of that twof okay good says but so what's going to do that you start out with two but the denial is less than two it's not talking about the money it's talking about that you need to have a mix you have to admit to some of it we're not talking about two monies who you're right says but there's two words one is extra and therefore I'm from one of them I'm going to learn the idea of Q is means but who I'm going to learn that it has to that you start off with two the time is two but the the the denial doesn't have to be two from the words I'm going to learn you're right so what is he going to do there's two words he says no we don't have any extra words why that I have to admit to the same object. So if I if I claim that you owe me wheat and I admit to barley that's not here. So basically says this that it's not possible that the denial is too because I started off with two. So if I'm starting over two and from that two within the two I admit to some so automatically my denial is less than two. So you're right. There's no extra word here. So I'm going to come with from a different angle. You're right. The says two monies. Guess what? The says two monies, but we're not talking about the claim. We're talking about the denial. That's what the Torah is talking about. You have to have the denial of two. Why does it talk about money? It's just say if I gave somebody to watch two vessels and I would know from there they have to be two. You're right. The starts off talking about but I don't need it for I'm going to use it for how much does the denial have to be says. This is not a good cuz I do need the Torah to tell me the word. I think you don't need something important. Maybe two two needles that are not important are also something that I watch has to be something. Let's just do this. Yeah, I know it's a little late, but we got to do this. Should we stop here? Maybe we're because we're going to stop in. It's not not Listen rabbi if we just think loud what happened in the Mishna somebody claims he owe me two and he admitted that he owes he owes one prishna says he's potter why why is he potter so we explained it the real way but there's another way to think about it the reason is because he didn't the claim wasn't enough when I claimed two and you admit to one pr your claim wasn't strong enough because you need to give him enough room to deny two full two two full ciffs. If you start off with two KF and he denies one pr then how much was his denial twofs minus one that's not enough denial you need two full denial that's why you pot that's one way to look at it it's sounds like if a guy claims two money that's not enough for for this whole mixes business the whole wasn't enough you have to start off at least with two plus one and then we're not talking about the value. We're talking about how do you say dav in English? He claimed silver and he admitted copper. He says, "You owe me two pieces of silver." And he said, "No, I only owe you one piece of copper. It's not because there wasn't enough Tina, but there's a different type of Tina. He claimed silver and he he answered him copper same exact case I owe you but he added a to it which according to would be great and he admits that he doesn't owe him a talking about value currency I owe you you owe me two plus aut and I admit it to part of it that's why But if I if I claimed you owe me some silver and you admitted to some copper, you said it's a different day. Two lines. You're talking to this would be a typical case of if I claim that you owe me and I admit just to that is even though it's one out of two fine we'll stop over here. Have a wonderful [Music] day. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.