Daf Yomi Shevuos Daf 18 by R’ Eli Stefansky

[Music] Good morning boys live from Nairobi Kenya say to a different country Nairobi Kenya. So, what happened was this morning, probably maybe the earliest year ever in MDY history, 5:30 a.m. Nice amount of people came. I don't know, I want to say 1520 more. Nice. Look, 20:30 at 5:30 in the morning. Even a bunch of guests that were never at MDY before. We had the guy from Lebanon and uh the son, they made a they made a short out of it. So we we we had sheer 5:30 at 6:30 we had chakras 7:00 we were done with chakras we went into the van went to the airport 14 hours later we're we got to Kenya so we're in Kenya in Nairobi we got to the hotel and we went straight to the conference room we rented this beautiful conference room uh we got water and an hour later somebody came and delivered food So, we're eating during Shir. Gave us Shir in Hebrew. And now we're on to Shir number two in English. By the way, the rule is you could just get up and go. You could leave now. Everybody's welcome to go besides Dave. Dave, you're not welcome to go anywhere. Everybody could go. Um, it's a it's a big here and we're still waiting. The only people that are here in Kenya are the guys that left for stroll. All the Americans are on a flight now. I think they're already flying. No, they're on the way here. They're doing a direct flight from New York to here. There's one guy Esterson from Wilmington, North Carolina. Who's in a hotel somewhere around here? I don't know. He should have came this year. No. Okay. We had a big to hear Ellie Silver speak and um because this mic I don't have the mic on me because of this device. The mic doesn't work on this one. So you got to be careful. All noises are going to be picked up. This guy I don't know what his name is but I was moved by him. I literally cried when he spoke to me. He's a and he has a hard time getting up for diving in the morning and he said he told his he wants to make a deal some sort of incentive. He needs an incentive and the said okay I'll do an incentive. What do you want to do? So he says I want to be able to go to MDY once a week. He's in the regime said deal. So he comes once a week. So if you see him in the give say hello to him. But that's his his mus. He doesn't want a PlayStation. He doesn't want a $1,000. He wants to be able to go to Shir. It's a beautiful thing and call to the for agreeing to it. It shows godless. What else do we have here? I'm 11year-old at in Los Angeles. Thank you for all the time spent to make such a wonderful shir. I've been doing it with MDY since San Hedrin 105 and hope to finish the cycle in a few years. Thank you. You're tell Abram Sanderan. You know this name Sander Vani? No. Both of you from Los Angeles. Okay. Going straight into the sponsors. Monthly sponsors Jeff Los Angeles. It is uh 7 minutes to 12 a.m. So the island is getting a little tired. 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MDY kids and still going and the whole staff continue to make so many all the work they do otherwise there's a warning for parents and children that today's sug uh has an adult um theme to it and then B starts we have a nice size uh ag we're dealing with a woman who's in need find out she's in need while she's having relations with her husband and is that the husband must wait where he has less because if he doesn't wait then he's pish and he separates right away has more than he's if he doesn't know so it says like this we're holding six lines from the top of that oh I got to share with you my my that I had we we flew to Dubai from Dubai to Kenya and as I was flying over Dubai I looked out the window and I saw what everybody else saw. I saw a bunch of dirt from hundreds of miles. It looked like a desert. It is a desert. And then Dubai comes into view and it continues to be a desert. You don't see any grass. It's all like this. You ever been to Ben Rock? Like that brown, dark brown, like a brownish sand, just sand. No, not a blade of grass. Not a single flower inside, not a tree, nothing. Just flat land. A real desert. And out of the desert, they built one of the most modern cities in the world. Maybe the most modern city. One of the some of the nicest buildings. I think it's six-star hotel. How many stars is that hotel? The only the only six sevenstar hotel in the world. Gorge. Everything's beautiful. They they they basically basic what they did is they took a midbarama and they made it into a beautiful place. And you can learn a big sorry that no matter what you're dealt with, you can make lemonade out of lemons and whether it's your personality or your family or the community you're in, you can always make something beautiful out of it. If you just try, put the effort in, you can be beautiful. the [Music] bike. The Dubai Dubai Dubai Dubai Dubai Dubai. It's already there from the time of these two of the beginning of the act and the end of the act. They're both we learned innovative and then she tells him that she has hero. She can feel that she has d and she's so he's doesn't know what to do. Oh, I I must separate myself immediately. Then okay, so that's in our and the start of the act is also in a that says so there's a a time when people would check themselves with a bigger cloth, a white cloth to see if they have any doubt. So if the man used aika and he saw that he has d. So it's obvious where it came from. He doesn't have a wound. So how does he have d it's obvious it happened from relations and therefore they're both was obvious that he's with so they're both and therefore they both have to bring a carbon was a they had no idea. So they have to bring a carbon. Now there's three really there's a where they wouldn't have to bring a carbon at all and that is if they had no reason to believe that this would happen. In other words, it wasn't during her vess period. It was the middle of the month sometimes. But if it's by a time that he should not be with her because it's by her every month she sees dam the same time. So he does have reason to believe that you'd be an just what he thought that he could finish before you become an okay so that's more like a car almost but it's a that you bring a carba if it's you don't bring a car and if it's amazed you knew that she was and anyways so then you're nothing to do with the ka so the only time you bring a car is if you you know you suspect it might happen but you you thought you could get away with says, "What do we learn about the start?" How is it a because it was right by her vesus? Because if it wasn't by the bees, oh, and what's the for on the start? No, we told you maybe is it's in the middle of the month. It's not next to the show and therefore he's not doesn't have to bring a carbon for the beginning part. The beginning part had no reason to believe in it. That's why on separating himself now if that's the case I don't need a for that that we learned in our that we learned we don't really need it and the reason why it's here is for something else. What do I need it for? I don't need this that the man checked himself and he found ah we don't need that's a big when we get there we'll see how much time after but when she doesn't it's possible that she saw dam that the dam occurred after the relations not during the relations and if it came after the relations then he the man is Not to you know if a person's with a need he becomes like an seven days the whole thing he's not from it he's as a because maybe the dam was from before maybe the came afterwards so it's a for that you don't bring a carbon so that's the okay so once I spoke about she finding d so I talk about him finding d even though there's zero in him finding d because You see that in our that if he finds he should he should not be purged right away. He should wait. How can you tell me this talking about that it's not by it's the month and it's talking about that he should separate himself slowly. It says that he found the where did he find it on the on the cloth. When do you find after that? Not during the act talking about how fast a person should separate himself. If you're separating that means that you knew during the act that she's no means after that it doesn't fit in. It's a good idea to listen to your is right. But how could I? Oh, you guys never heard about the you heard this myself. No, I didn't think so. All these guys said in the sh before it's admired was walking on chas with one of his men and he says tells he says you see that pen over there go pick it up says no I told you to pick it up. So the guy goes and he starts picking it up. He slaps him in the face. He says, "What are you?" So what if I told you to pick it up? It's a lesson. I mean, I don't know about the slapping in the face part. I don't know if he did or didn't. That's how the story goes. So what if I told him, you know, you know, he knows also. So So your Reb told you. So Reb told you better listen. But I can't listen to the Reb. It doesn't make sense. I gota I got to stick up for what's true. [Music] It says we have to understand how do you how do you explain the Mishna that's talking about the beginning part says now there's two parts of the act there's the beginning there's the end in the beginning I tell you don't start the act and at the end I tell you you should stay where you are don't be pish one is a and one is a when I tell you don't do this act that's So if we're talking about the beginning, so I'm telling you don't start. You just told me it's not a don't. It's a it's a positive commandment. It's yes mean if you're right that we're talking about on the beginning. That's why you bring a carbon. That's not it's not a it's a don't start. So explains to him. You're right. It's it's missing something. You're right. Exactly what you said is missing. You're right. Said don't start. So since he didn't know until afterwards when he found the dam he has to bring but if he's in the middle of relations and and she told him she's and he thought that that's a good idea to separate himself immediately. We're going to see in a second why that's the says don't start. But if you started and she tells you she's an then do not separate you should stay as is. That's okay. Now we're going to the details. His wife tells him she's and he separates himself right away. What should he do? How is he not? He puts his 10 fingers into the ground if he's there and that will help him that his a will die out and it'll be good for him. We'll get a lot of for that for controlling his we learned remembers this. Everybody remembers the famous that when had this big for so he put his 10 fingers in the middle came out of his fingers. So going over there says what's it mean? So he says it's not literal. Some say it's literal. He says it's not literal. What it means is that by by by digging his fingers into the ground he was able to control his tya. He got rid of his got rid of the through the fingers. You see from this says we have says that if a person has relations with any of the rights let's say a sister whatever it is but his is mace he's potter in fact that's how we that's how we pass it that you from he from malus why because it's not considered an act of be it's not it's not a real act yet is that if somebody does that he This will get makers from best will punish both of them man and the woman this and he proves it say that so what about our he finds out in the middle that she's he's wait long enough he's If he's because he found a middle at any case. So let's pers right away. By the way, there's some that learn from here from this Gar that calls it a mace. It's mace, but it's not really mace. In a way, it is, but it's not mace mace. So said they learned from here that this idea that when you don't have you don't have a gishmak in something it's considered dead you have to have a in life you have to mitzvah and there's a that they say from the I'm allowed to say because I'm they ask him once why is it that after a lot of times they have they have and the tik they have they say whatever she says Because when he is such fervent with such and so it's like he's reborn. You have a new kid. You have to make a you bring you bring you bring the Oh, that's the best. You ever see those old guys right after the Yeah. And then on the on the morning maybe the had that once once too many and they decide to make a thing against it and the lit after coming from such a culted feeler it's like he died oh when you die you say that's what the said okay obviously I don't agree with that it looks like a very bad material depends where I've been to some they dive in so fast it's like you know it's like and they don't even they don't they mumble stumble they and I've been to places where they die with I've been to places where where the litfac make the look like joke they 40 minutes I've been it goes both ways says oh says loyal [Music] No, I could argue the opposite. You should know that if you use so how is this guy potter? So what if he waited? Why is he potter? Because so if he's then why is he at all even if he he separated immediately? Why is he? And here comes the big idea of the whole we told him you should have less enjoyment when he separated had too much enjoyment. In other words, you get punished for the added. He had a way to wait few minutes and have less and he didn't wait and he and he separated immediately and he had more ano. Therefore I know you bring a card. So they ask very interesting what about I hear myself talking just said this what? Yeah. You go over here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It says where is it? You want to just put it back? Yam kipper person is told by a doctor that he must eat. So he eats. What is he permitted to eat? Could he eat or should he eat just bread, plain old bread without butter or he could eat chocolate and Coca-Cola? Once he's eating, he's eating. Over here we have the same sh is maybe he should do less enjoyment. He should actually suffer while he's eating. He should eat like we're going to have a sug tomorrow. I don't know when. A few days from now. He eats off. He's eating dirt. Maybe he should eat dirt. Well, not dirt. He should eat spoiled stuff. So says when it comes to the whole rice is the that's what the that's the is enjoyment. Food is not about enjoyment. food is about the how much of a that's the problem and I think there are those who argue on [Music] it according to what you're telling me person he waits a long time until Abra then he's pottery completely if he doesn't wait then he's so it's very similar to what we said in the Mishna in fact is brought in our Mishna but our Mishna doesn't make that distinction says to remind the we're going to try 13. I'm not touching. You want to do the next one also? Do the next one. While you're watching this, a tremendous shout out to Remy who um is working hard over there in to get this new program up and running. It's going to be better for us. It's working not bad. Certainly very good for the first day. And of course I have to say too is this table shaking then the whole the whole was shaking. This is I have you know I have a tripod that we could have put on the floor. Hello. Okay. Anyway, maybe you can figure out tomorrow. Something just happened. What's going on offline? It says here it's recording went offline. No, it went back on. Now I see the picture again. Okay. What happened? It recognizes. Ah, it recognizes when you talk AI, it stops. Okay. So, what do we have here? So we have that the Mishna said both that in also there's a long way and a short way. The long way is the short way is we only spoke about so what does that mean? So, first I'll show you mine. Oh, here mikdash. If you go out in the short one, you're put if you go in the long one. So, they're not similar. They're the opposite. Yes, there's a distinction between long and short, but the opposite. In the mdash, when you go out the long way, you're neither you go the long way, you are Father, what happened? Neither right go and neither the long way the long way you the the short way. Okay. Or Yoshi's. Here's Yoshi. Yoshi. This one right here. Tell me that is good. Tell me their kuka according to is no good their is great is the problem. Okay. Oh, I have to do a uh sponsorship. No turning of the honors for learning with rebell global skill experts in international financial services. You should know we we got on the plane today and all this all these um Africans from Kenya they started they asked him for for for his signature they said he's a celebrity he was in the army magazine on lunch break they wanted they wanted his blood people in the airport wherever he's going they're running over to him for for autographs and everything selfies autographs the whole thing uh anonymous in I said no in honor of the saddic whose name we cannot Say who shows us what it means to be a giver. That's not it. It's [Music] Mark. Oh that if I really say that a person who finishes the actus the only way to be is if it's not post like we explained before if a person has reason to believe that his wife could be today then he's not then he's a if it's a middle of the month sometime and he has zero reason to believe that she'll be then so you tell me that is talking about in a case that us now how could that be the only way a second for the beginning of the act is when it's not when it's so how come you tell me it's when the it's possible that a person who's with his wife he'd be too but over here in our he's he's saying that it's talking about where is a complete and therefore where in Kenya where do you see the to be with he took a piece of dirt and threw it in his face here like mish like this picture See brothers. Yeah, two brothers. Normal fight with each other. Yeah. Siblings. Sibling. What do you mean? What are you doing? Obviously, that's not what he meant to ask. our how do you know he's with she tells him she's he shouldn't separate himself right away how do you know that should continue being with him that what there's there's a time in a place not every time but in a in an emergency situation we find that she's in need then he should stay there in one place even though she's he should remain there until it's to separate but say of a positive commandment of an you should be with the but we're talking about to bring a bring a could only be when there's a not an so where's the You shouldn't come close. It also means you shouldn't separate yourself. Sometimes it's it's also to separate from yourself. You should warn But there are say that this is to be with your wife before she's in need of just We're almost finished. Another 10 minutes. Just you have reason to believe that she will be in need of that day. Why? Because every single month that's the day that she becomes. That's called the vess to separate yourself before that. Why it [Music] says how much you have to separate or you know according to it means one time period mean meaning that typically speaking she sees during the day. So that day that you anticipate that that whole day from the morning from till the night and if she typically sees that night. So from till the next morning if you do not you're not kind as possible. You don't even have children that are great they will die. It says first you should warn from the to right next to that they shall die. Here's it tells you how to have male children this thing to be punished. The whole world is gonna have everybody's Oh, kiss. We're here the first night in Kenya in tomorrow. We're doing one extra game drive that the Americans are not going to be going on. We're going going to Nairobi National Park. It's a smaller uh safari, but we're going. So, we're here. We're managing the first day. We're here in the hotel. It's only 10 minutes away from where we are. And we have the tells you the I'm not even joking. People think I'm joking. There is a there's a rice according to to understand the difference between Tommy animals and animals. Here's the possible. Now, some say that you could be in the mitzvah by looking at pictures, but come on. Those people would never be looking at pictures uh going to the Alpser with pictures. Reminds me I once I I remember exactly who it was many years ago like 20 years ago or so in Chicago this guy Kenny Ber remember Kenny Ber everybody does it but I just remember him he sent me a card before Porum and says in lie of Shahus I'm donating $20 to this and this organization. So I wrote him back a letter. I said in lie of I'm gonna donate my the midst to give. What do you mean in lie of? You better give me shakman right now. I don't know if he appreciated it, but I do remember writing him a letter back. I did back in the day. Put a stamp on it. Send it back to him. And I wrote I'm pretty sure I said, "What do you mean in lie of going to the safari? You cheapkate. You don't want to go safari, you're going to look at a picture book. Come on. No, you're buying. And then here's the here's the big problem that I have. I offered the the mitzvah for them for $100 and not a single person took me up. Not even [Laughter] [Music] He said people don't understand because they don't care about these mitzvah every mash only you go that they're with a magnifying glass and this and what about the you would that not [Music] it's all one be lying I'd be lying if I said you see that if you go to Oh, check out this beauty. I really think they should sell this. I'm going to Hold on. Where's the sound? It's not going on my screen. Oh, here we go. Boy, if you don't hear the sound, just look at the face here. Good morning. Something new special. Hold on. What's the new one? Where's the Oh, the the leopard moves. Okay, it kind of works with us. Galdic. Okay. Thank you, Yoshi. Just remember, I I I'm going to print it out. I'm going to put on my fridge picture for me at least. Put in the so the new What is it? These guys see. Let's see. What is it? What is it supposed to look like? Oh, that one this guy. That's not good. Oh, here's another here. Here's almost finished. Let's go. We're doing great. Oh. Oh, this button does work. Yeah. Oh, that's a man. That's a tar. Where is he showing you? That's a tar. It's one of the most dangerous animals this one. It's not a bison buffalo. It's one of the big five. I'm going to have to teach you guys though. Look at little lessons. It's uh that's the kudu and oh hyena will see this. Ah, this isn't masara. This isn't seri. The mount of animals here has to be serenetti. Oh, the fighting. There's the leopard. Okay. What are we doing? National Geographics here. Oh, wow. Oh, he kicks the He saw he came out of nowhere and kicked the line. Where is it? Cheetah. That's a cheetah. Fastest animal on wood. Okay. I could sit here all day. Oh, that's m sugar the leopard jumping from a tree on top of the thing. Okay, good. There's too much. You did a nice job. Okay, we said this, right? If a person is on ones then he'll have kids that will become obviously if they learn not by themselves they'll have to learn also huh yeah yeah yeah of course some of us meaning the the Before you know before a person conducts himself during relations I skipped ah I did skipd so he's having the person makes on wine not on grape juice. Anybody that went to ask him for usually that's what he would say you should make abdu or wine you should make wine has do also it's better to do on wine so those are it's maybe to take up to differentiate between the of the and the weekday And over there it also says that's why we do have because to make to differentiate that's the whole basically the whole style of gum is to learn how to differentiate between the two different to understand to differentiate between you have to have d so that's where abdah goes in it goes into the into the So since differentiation and also we saw differentiation between sons that could pass himself male children you said make yourself and you'll become just as I think there's some confusion in this I've heard from really big people that this sometimes is a is something that creates tension in a marriage when people don't know what this is and they do different things but according to What it means is something very simple not a is learning whatever it is which is completely us obviously but means person who doesn't think about another woman according to them. So just to see the Mishna real quickly it's interesting you look at the Mishna and the Mishna says the whole all them sh that we're talking about until now that a person forgot that he is and he walks in the mdish a person forget that he's eat what's the other thing he could forget he forget he can't forget that it's the he could forget that it's a carbon no says only when he forgets that he's not that he forgets about the and then says I'm forgetting he says the same exact thing What happened there? We're good. Even though I'm paused like that. Okay. So, what's going on here? They're saying the same exact words. There's a great beautiful. Let's say a person ate a rat, but he thought that he ate a cow that died without or we should say tum. Yeah, he touches the shits. He touches the is he or not? Cuz he doesn't know what the source is. He thought the source is A, but it's really B. You need to know the source. says if you don't know the source you don't bring a carbon for that says you don't need to know you the bottom line is your you don't have to know the difference that is the you need to know the difference remember you need to know the difference only then do you bring a carbon oil you bring a carbon [Music] has a contradiction between and he explains it away making a distinction between what's the distin what's the question really say person needs to know before he goes whether he touched the he and only then we What? What's going on? A person has two plates in front of him. One is and one is here. Where's the Where's the Where's the So, shout out to Betty Rodnik. Thinking about the thinking about thinking not thinking about yourself, thinking about somebody else. We got to Dubai and we were kind of hungry because we didn't have breakfast. We went straight from Shakas on a plane and D was hungry and uh everybody's looking their bags for a potato chip or whatever and then he pulls out uh 15 pounds of this. How much is 6 kilo? 13.2 13.2 multiply by two add 10%. Oh, you just made it more confusing. Multiply by 2.2. No. What? 2.2. It was 5. But 6* 2.2 is that much. Okay. Okay. Whatever. 13. 13 pounds of this stuff of this. Okay. Cuz it has right over here. Let's Let's call this This is smoked stuff. Was really really delicious. It was actually delicious. was at the right time at the right point. It was the right amount and then of course right a mill of our sandwich he said you got a board you got a board okay fine it was very very good and he brought the ketchup the whole thing everybody had one of these the women everybody so he says in this case where he doesn't know the difference between whether he ate or he doesn't need to know the difference the bottom line is why why is it different if is the person who says you have to know what you were ting when you went into was shouldn't they say you should know whether you ate whe ate so he says you're right there shouldn't be a difference but once him that makes all the difference in the world what if he doesn't know if he he knows he drove in a car it was either yesterday the day before but one of them he knows that he had relations he just doesn't know was it his wife or she happened to be in the house at the same He doesn't know if his wife or sister. But either way, it says the word when it comes to you have to know what it is. by regular says you are with everything. So then if it's true then why does the have to continue and say everything of course. So you see the reason why the continues is because over there you do need to know whether or not it was a whether or not it was a raful. Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.