Daf Yomi Pesachim Daf 30 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning everybody sai louis elizabeth rossi good morning rob boyce mordecai today's share is being sponsored by j malki specter from lawrence new york in honor of the eating day outside of our beloved grandmother buna basiaco valve grieger elizabeth schwartz she was a helicopter survivor something like that she was a helicopter survivor embodied tremendous moon and strength and lived her life in a manner in that manner one of the greatest gifts she passed down to us for grandchildren was a tremendous love and appreciation for the state of israel she is buried in haremnuchas and this is the first year that none of her children or grandchildren could travel to israel on her yard side yep machver has never missed a yard site for his mother father and schwerin schweger all four and this year nobody's came nobody came all right um dear barely i thoroughly enjoy your share and it's the perfect way to start the day the sponsorship and emails at the beginning are great as it allows a small buffer zone so that even after hitting the snooze button at five a.m i can still get onto the shear on time for the start of the daf this is shloimi lightner from golders green london they have to get up f5 after the inspiration of the scene of shots there were some helpers in many different online showroom and daf apps i subscribed to a number of them and joined numerous whatsapp groups mdy included it got the point where my phone didn't stop buzzing with that material at the startup stockholm had enough and exited some of the groups that i wasn't using within minutes one of the magidishu messaged me asking if something he had said in sheer had been offensive i reassured him it was nothing personal just really was better suited for me every magazine has a different style and something else to offer whether it's through different visual drawings or just simply the way the gemara is explained immediately after listening to your morning share and then the eight minutes somewhere on the way to work the gemara is still something that's not clear in my head and even i often listen to another sheer to better understand the daf surely the goal of every magazine is to collectively make the shame from mine by increasing the tire learning globally ensuring that the daf is accessible to the entire client's role with one shared aim there can't be any rivalry and when a member of the mdy family listens to a different chair to clarify that that day's death rather than being the case of being a traitor it should be commended kind regard slay me lightner gold is green london this is something you might not understand ever this is american sarcastic humor i wasn't talking to libby by the way i was talking to levy levy freeman they sit next to each other so libya is from london from england and i was i was just kidding around because levy friedman had the audacity he knew i wouldn't be making so he had he put it on loud right in front of me then i said something vaharaya that he knew i wasn't joking that i was joking because yesterday he did the same thing again so anyways i sometimes even mentioned it's really boring my share say if anybody wants to hear guccifer on the daf go to his sheer a hundred percent masking this is from benjamin i can't i don't even know m-e-h-d-i-z-a-d-e-h again in ponovich we only went up to seven letters this is based on your kids that first hashem gives you a warning by i'm reading this today because you just said it the other day first hashem gives you a warning by burning your tongue and then puts you in jail and then if you still don't listen death covet also corona is the same way no smell and taste burn tongue then be dude quarantine jail and if you don't listen death has become all right kevaldik you enjoy that yeah why we not here today rabbi sai is daf lamed and we are holding on the top top word we're in middle of the sugiya of tarevis so you know what before do we have a you have another minute i just want to say that everybody knows but we have to reiterate that the team goes so much out of the way to bring the torah out there so i want to show you something very interesting joseph billiard is in charge of getting the share he uploads this year he used to do it at home but the upload speeds at home are slow and he was worried that it would take a couple of extra hours so what does he do he travels all the way to ikea and he sits in ikea because they have 10 times the speed gary he needs 10 times the speed we have to get him cable or something here and there's a troll you're limited i don't know what he needs he goes here every single day i said i need a picture of it all right huh yet that's the problem but they have it over there by ikea which is outside one day they won't have to travel every day to ikea so yesterday we were discussing tyrovis a mixture the difference between min if it's the same item flour and flour or flour and chocolate we know that according to raven schmuel mimbino is very problematic so even if you add a small amount a mashup of that into the mixture it makes it comments no good so says rava finally after we learned the sugar yesterday omarova hilkosa bismanov is on pesach whether it's the one that's geyser and he says even which is more cal and typically isurum in the torah you don't answer them with the mashup you need noise and tam with above without avov na pernat whatever you need you need a you need something substantial nevertheless when it comes to pesach he we asked her your passing is like rob we should make xero why did we say because rav holds that pesach is different pesach is karis pesach look the deal people are not so careful they don't know how to how to be careful so we have to help them out what do we do then all of a sudden we pass can now if you remember so we had the macholicus i changed it for today yapchik we got the the the final food in yeah every peso so according to your view though that comments is also before pesach after pages before meaning from midday all the way through pesach and even after pesach then says rava let's switch it up to rub shimon that what shalom is but after pesach is not a problem what's the worst the worst of the worst flower and flower but it's after pesach when we passed all of your shiman that hummus after pesach was motherboard asks thinking about a question that we already addressed yesterday um so this check mark right over here is supposed to be an x repsimen holds that even after pesach he can't use comments why because we have to penalize him it's a knass he's over in value of baliamoto we can't go in and sell it after pesach don't get nervous from this word that's the name of the suggest anyway what rather said in rib shemin that we give him a knack and he cancelled the comments is when it's a whole donut but if it's in a mixture then we add coins when the seven days of pesach eight days of peso depends where you are omalon puku us vino camiro de venezhelo go ahead and buy bread from the the soldiers who bake the bread on pesach it's not a problem like ruby shimon and that's it now why does it say la i don't know i was a little bothered by it my cabrusa reminded me that on the family base it says that rava said make sure you get rid of the hummus of the soldiers the story of the comets but in the jewish homes so get rid of it so maybe that's what he's saying you get rid of it you give it back to them and then go back and buy it from them so to speak go they have it you know they have it from pesach you'll buy it maybe it has something to do with that omarov i'm just saying it's good to do hazara another thing i was doing yesterday and i i was learning another sugar that we had in the beginning and we learned over there and yesterday was like oh brand new lockhart we never learned before in our life what he just learned two weeks ago everybody said oh says rav that all your dishes all your pots that are made out of earthenware i guess in those days a lot of them were made out of earthenware you have to break them there's nothing you can do with them why rav is of the opinion that what that even a mashup that mixes with your food ruins it even meanwhile you know it doesn't matter even so you have absorbed in this hairs so now that's it it's so what are you going to do with this pot exactly you want to use it again you're going to you want to make your oatmeal after pesach you can't because it has hummus inside the walls of this path even a mashup you don't even see it that's enough to make it us or even we'll see in a second can't do anything can't have enough from it [Music] is of the opinion that after pesach we're not geyser there's nothing to be geyser so after pesach only in bimena is osterba mashup if you're making chocolate in that pot and before that you had hum it's flower in the pack it's okay after basa it's only an pesach zero shillobino but we're talking about after pesach so why did rav say you must break these pots break them all there's nothing you can do with them i have a very good use for it i can use it for something i haven't cooked in that pap before says the gimbal okay maybe you'll come to you'll forget so before pesach you you mixed in some flour hummus flour and the flour got into the walls of the thing and then after pesto you're going to forget you need to do something with flour and that's a problem but what's the mars question for a second just uh if we have a second here you are asked what's the problem you have in the walls of the pot you have comets so go ahead and use something else with it use use it for chocolate but that's a problem you're using and you try to be me is says that in the second third that if we require you to break it that's already a bit the evidence it turns it into the david it's not like oh i'm doing this on purpose i'm being a vatilla is on purpose i have no choice otherwise my other choice is to throw it out in the garbage that's not that's already omar smack in the middle of the us you don't break the path why because he holds like rip shimon that what that is so what's the problem no problem at all you can use it after pesach you can do whatever you want after pesach he could even do biminoi it's no problem even its own men you could do why was so very interesting story shmuel was witnessing how people were selling pots after pesach what's the hottest item especially in rav's town pots because raph says all your paths have to be broken on pesos every pace so they go ahead and they break all the cliches all the earthenware paths if you didn't splurge on the metal pots you have to break your paths so what do these guys do like typical uh you know they sell parts now they hack the prices up supply and demand so small tells them those who sell these new pads ashfuz i'm warning you make sure your prices are right i'm going to ruin your whole business i'm going to tell everybody that you don't even have to break the path forget about buying parts it's all mutter as the gemara village village shim in sphere i don't understand why did he wait he should have got up and showed and said it's a hundred percent motor you don't have to buy new pads obviously you're talking about in the city of rav everybody listen to rav and raf said you have to break your path so they all broke their paths shmuel didn't want to get up there and be on rav in his own city but he said listen if you're going to be if you're going to practice these terrible practices of raising the prices when you're not supposed to then i'm going to be forced to hooligan rav in rap city and tell everybody the truth where's the tanner tano the taco bait tikaya they smeared the inside of the oven with grease how do you make grease from an animal's tail a kosher animal kosher grease but this grease is filet shakes it's meat astro rovo barry hilloy le me le rifto afido be milko back in the day when we're in kanike i had a lot of time in my hand and we had an interesting ravas i went through the entire shots and i found 52 i think it was i forgot my list somewhere 52 right knock on how many were you're not happy with me 52 rubbers different rovers this is one of them rubber barrier yeah he said what are you wasting your time i don't remember it was a good time whatever it was it was a good time upon him rather by hillary said it's us sir to eat bread that comes out of this oven why the oven is fly chicks even if you're going to eat it with nothing just salt rashi says they never ate bread plain so it's either salt with with a with radish with relish whatever it is with a dip with even eating a plane not with a milk dip is awesome lila means you can never heat up this oven and undo the damage of this and you can never make bread in it don't worry i didn't bring it when we get to members maybe i wanna i wanna i wanna i wanna show what kutaku's i think it's geshmaq is tough no the island is nodding their head nice sour disgusting milk with moldy bread it's kishmak rabbisi you don't even understand how good this stuff is it's such a great thing i think the island deserves a package of it mdy kutak now is very very milk i don't know that's right but it's now everybody knows the narcissist role they sell berequest here and barack is a square but they also sell triangle barracusan and that's a thing in israel and i just roll that if you go to the bakery anything that's made milks is a different shape see the triangle or the circle with things in it and that i know was in hotel here in eritrea's role and they made dairy barracus square they had to throw everything out the entire thing out in the garbage why dilma ocean people might get confused you have you have a loaf of bread and it was baked in an oven that has meat oil in it you might come to dip your bread in in in in milk rice milks and flesh you can also eat lotion you can't knead your dough with milk and if you do so everything is user in other words you can't even eat that bread by itself nay hair gala that's the problem if you there's a certain standard everybody knows that this is this bread could be eaten with meat and now you have a problem this this is dairy bread big problem we're turning to the flamingo bays you're sponsoring yeshua crazy boy hey tanner about i'm so excited i think the island realizes that i was a little bit much those are those sponsorships the three sponsors this gives schmuck it's kashmir it's not even worth the money hey satan about the what gary says it is almond of the five towns you hear that hey tana value who's the third one so you don't grease up the oven with the the oil of the of the of the tale vim tosh and what does it say here we have a major problem over here it says that there's a way out of it all you need to do fire it up again we're good to go if you fire it up you heat it up again you burn out the the fat now it's ready to go for milk clicks and the story check mate we don't have a good answer for this so it's that's it god oh my gosh says revenant [Music] we have a few ravine tiravashi's the authors of shas talking to each other usually it's ravina ravage i i don't know i have to look it up don't quote me since we just schlocked them up i why can't you just there's a murder decayed why does rav tell everybody break your paths break your other take the earthenware burn it up what's the problem put enough flame and we're good to go if it's metal we could deal with it it comes out the comments when it comes to earthenware as we'll see later this the tire is made that earthenware absorbs and doesn't doesn't expel it completely by saying this or you could say no both are talking about earthenware so if we're talking about the oven the how do you heat up an oven from inside the heat is inside i'll just borrow a picture from i wanted to talk about this angola scaling place here in the ramada chambers but i'll just steal a picture here for a second just so for illustrative purposes over here the heat is from the outside and therefore it doesn't expel the comments completely and if you'll say okay so what's the problem take the earthenware and put the flame inside the other way why do you have to burn it from the outside says a person is careful he doesn't want to do so why because it's going to burst sometimes it's going to pop there goes his earthenware so says rashi murdik says rashid then he's therefore i can't allow him even to do it on the outside right in the inside i can't allow him to the inside what if he says i don't care no because tomorrow he's going to go along and he's going to do it on the outside it's going to be murrah hatter what's the biggest problem and you described mario nobody wants to do an average straight out says natori you can't do it i'll do it doesn't care about this situation he would have wanted to me you have all sorts of excuses that's mario hector so mario had the person once he has a head there to do to do it on the inside then all of a sudden he starts making excuses and he says you know what you think this boho is so small with me he's gonna he's gonna make me do it and break my path not that much so let me do it on the outside oh that's already a problem so therefore we said no no outside no inside nothing look at rasheed what is booking does anybody see what rashi says here shuhu mir of him mirafim shakiram what's the next word raboisei tiles very good tiles that's what she says it's a sin not a shin in fact my my guy put a sin here tiles these are afim these are the the roof tiles and they have some sort of inside so you could put a flame underneath and cook on top of the cup on top of the tile look at so since the flame is underneath it's us if you fill it up with coals shop your dummy then it's okay because not in the then the coals get rid of it from from from inside in other words this is a stronger material so we could we're not concerned that's going to pop mma law if you put coals on the where you put the comments then it gets rid of the comments and it's good over there says revenant is what do we do with our knives our knives that we cut comments with all year long how do i use it on pesach i buy brand new ones you're rich you're wealthy what are all the poor people supposed to do i'm laying i don't buy new ones i'm talking about i take my hummus knives and i make them new now we have a concept called kaboylo as it absorbs that's how you have to expel it so if you were to take a knife and put it on the flame with hummus with hummus meat whatever it is you put it on the flame like that so the only way to get rid of the comets is by putting on the flame if you took the knife and you stirred up a pot so then the only way to get rid of the comments a fire for sure is good but then you just put it in a boiling pot what if you don't know so you have to put it on the flame you have to do number one you have to do the the best one omar lei ano camino bettina what do i do i need to protect the handle i don't want the handle to burn so i i cover it with tinna with clay up as the lag then i take the blade and i put in the the fire the hodder my linoleum and then i take the the i take off the clay and then i put the handle into boiling water why because at the end of the day hummus touches the handle now i'm not going to put the handle on the fire ever i don't ever use it as a skewer on the fire i use the blade on the fire but the comets drips back if you have a look at your handle it's always dirty a little bit so it has some hummus in it so that i need to do berate him with boiling water i just wanted to tell you guys i mean you guys know all about this but anybody in the world this made a tremendous impression on me when i moved to a map of chemist they set up right across the street from my house there's a giant parking lot and they set up an enormous hagalis caleb thing it's all free and the volunteers come with their pots and their things and they have i guess they have all the equipment and you can bring anything you want and people sit there with screwdrivers for you and they remove the handles and then they clean it for you and they they burn the comments off and they have torches and it's unbelievable what they do here no it's free they pay you to do it they pay you to do this no it's free big signs say free free free it says big signs little i i didn't take the i don't know i have the picture at all i didn't have time maybe in one of these it's free push it free well there's nothing free in this world there's big signs they say pata but uh it's free ask where does he throw my assignment doesn't he come by the way just as an update for some of the guys here there are two guys from this room that we started out that were exposed to corona i just want to say just saying why i wasn't crazy about coming back or two in two different situations and they're not here today all right here's some pictures of the guys they have everything's unbelievable why am i excited about this because when i was a bulker i opened up a place right across me from climb berlin and i did hagals caleb and then i had one of these gloves here's a great picture of it i had one of these gloves on and i stuck my hand and now somebody's back or fell to the bottom of the pot so i stuck in my hand really really slowly not to get the water in my glove but i missed it by some i guess i didn't see and the boiling water went into my glove and and cooked up my skin it was like uh what is it third degree is the worst it was just peeled off it was terrible stuff had a close down shop anyways here's the torch you can't really see the flame this was taken by melancholics all these pictures i took this off the video because his video uh whatever so here's the torch and this is kabalika polta here's the the burners mamash big job over there fine zak so this is fire and this is well you see the past the right hand the right one here this is right it has to be boiling water most say cli richoy means that it's still boiling whether it's on the flame or not like zucchini but it's boiling i will tell you from experience that that boil goes down really really quickly especially if you put in a single click it's done so the boil doesn't last we all know that omer avon radar yeshua eight yeah man i'm just i'm just saying if you no i'm saying that my colleagues are showing is what happens if you turn off the flame you turn off is that considered clear reshot some say it's not considered clear shine even though it's boiling it's not it's not with the flame i think that's what they say the bottom line is it has to be right and has to be boiling you have to see the bubble says you need hot water even though even the blade doesn't need fire it needs boiling water with a clear result just make sure that it's boiling so if you know for a fact then i don't know i think what the gemara is saying is that we don't know so one of these mustama you use that so uh unless we have to say yes even if you know for a fact i saw them talking about i just don't remember even if you know for a fact how does that work i don't know we're going to see it in two lines in the gemara i just forgot something about armor i'm going to be ready eights potter magiloi beretren eight spider is this a wooden spoon that you mix your dish with it's interesting you think that this absorbs a lot no right the only thing that doesn't work is cliches earthenware magiloi beroitchen will be clear and it has to be boiling what do you do with the spoon you mix a pot you're not you're not using it as a skewer so you're mixing a pot so you see we didn't go away from the poultry routine [Music] you have a vessel like today and that's why i mentioned that even some people were upset at me and they wrote me emails but it seems like today's earthenware is not really earthenware it has a glaze like a glass glaze on it so perhaps it doesn't need a mikvah we said you have to do filas kalim without a bracha so how to manipulate if you have a glazed vessel but it's glazed not with glass glazed with lead lead is metal so metal we said you could get rid of the the bliss you could get rid of the absorption mildew in other words the question is could you remove the comments from lead or do we view it a little differently it's really earthenware says says rashi look at the word over here another interesting word surashi says alam this is alam how do you pronounce it in english it's a it's a mineral not this this is from chavez it's a mineral so since it has this mineral in the clay in the uh earthenware it absorbs a lot mma law it's no good you can never get it out the black vessels and the white vessels that's the shiloh where this book are tiffany if it has what's cartoofney how do you say cartoofnet if it has cracks if it has cracks then certainly the hummus went into the cracks so what's the shiloh the shiloh is if it's very smooth doesn't have cracks we see that earthenware sweats in other words if you cook up earthenware on a flame and you have liquid inside you'll see it come out from the outside so it comes out but not completely it has a leo that never leaves no we're not talking about conversation we're talking about true true sweat like what if it has the color of the liquid that you have not a condensation pots condensate when they're hot i thought only cold hot also alma balivar siri so you see that they absorb and therefore saucer so once we know it absorbs because it goes through and through i don't know that we're familiar with these caleb these are you know earthenware who has their other words it will come out but not a hundred percent and since it's not a hundred percent you still have comets in there and it's no good says gemara nessa the darsh miramar we have the same exact case but with that if you have vessels that are glazed like we have before being ukumo all colors even green or yellow yarik is yellow maybe it's mother why is wine nessa what's maybe a guy looked at it and did something with it so you're going to tell me okay it's not real however we have a concept called the takarabara the the rabbanon of nasa should mimic the dirac and the the green yellow kingdom should be ulcer and the other ones we don't know rla i'll tell you the difference big difference i'm lay robots i'm serious every dapher we're going to come back to these and throughout the entire shots it's going to say throughout us soon incredible suit of momminess completely no childhoods one so after another call the talking about in their eyes talking maybe they'll point out to this gemara when it says it is tremendous difference between cold and hot hot absorbs so the hummus is absorbed in the clay yeah who has hot wine it's cold wine wine doesn't get absorbed in the climate melee you're allowed to use it yellow green it doesn't matter about very cold it was cold not very cold there's no problem you could throw it you could throw mats into it i never knew what this rubber band was i found that real quickly when i moved it the other day it's there for a reason it shows you where it started and did it rise did it grow my wife oh wow it grew a lot today no no i brought this here so i'm going to try not to move this she warned me not to take it to shear again but she's still sleeping um what's in base art now what's the problem based on this this this hole now this is we know the dessert the way you think this is glass but this is really earthenware and the earthenware absorbs especially this leavening agent you put a little bit in this to dough it ferments that's the word we were looking for yesterday not rise it ferments the dough because the fermented rice it rises ferments a little bit of this that's all you need so this is this is it this is the the what is it called the no the small amount that makes a large amount the oyvey it's actually dripping again oh my gosh i guess she left it open on purpose to make sure i don't take it again it's the no like like food dye like you put a small amount and it's the concentrate thing no they say catalyst it's the concentrate so it's so strong the concentrate is very very strong so it goes into the clay says gemara caution because it's very strong omnibashi or vascarosis a clay that holds other very strong ingredients quebec like vinegar something very strong honey these vessels that they have um i risked my marriage to show you this i want to show you this and then please don't send me an email that it's not kadai to risky marriage for the sheer american sarcastic humor don't don't worry about it here wow i think i changed it it used to be bigger anyways this is this bowl that this sourdough sits in you didn't hear me said i look very nervous this is not the first time i missed my marriage but this is i don't know if you know sourdough to to these women today is like it's a it's their life it's their thing it's it's ah while i'm learning in the dining room right here bam bam it's like a whole it's malacha smacking on the on the ground every day boom 40 times you gotta know people call her up do you add a little bit the 350 to the 220 and it's a whole it's a matzah okay anyways it tastes really good though this shabbos this is not going to get anything this shabbos i looked at the bread and there's a design of a weed on it mom it's beautiful design sat there with a razor blade you buy these things they sell for salad you put it on you just cut it out exactly unbelievable stuff anyway so since it sits in this thing you can see it's set i i literally she didn't do it for me i went into the refrigerator this is how i found it like this hey i'll take it off so you can see it's good stuff don't tell her please i'm throwing it back in there she's gonna say i don't know what happened the the bread came out half the size today smosh that's i said yeah yeah yeah it's it's the oven you know these israeli ovens you never know different days they do the fine ani agar is a hollow deer la melis buchamiro okay so it sits there for a long time so therefore it's the the comets get absorbed by the way i think this is also cliches this is kind of wood but it's it just looks like what this is a cliches cheetah okay it absorbs it absorbs what's the difference in what clear it is what's in afghamino if it's in this or in this they're the same thing says the gemara tell you the differences look how wide it is so maybe the ear comes and takes away the leavening agents doesn't allow it to absorb into the clay commercial on that yes all right rabbi so we have a couple minutes here we'll go over tomorrow as well but let's start the amazing sugyo it's a really beautiful sugya of money monetary alvarez says israel khame you have a guide that lend money to a jew and the jew returned gave him his comments as collateral and the guy is holding the comments throughout pesach we consider it as if it's the guys and therefore it's why do we consider it's the guys it's the jews well it depends if the jew didn't pay back and the guy had it from the beginning of the pesach do we view it here's the lambda shakashi do we view it that the communists became the guys at the moment that the jew decided he doesn't want to pay back and that's after pesach and maybe it should be also banner or do we view it as if it the guys throughout the entire time we just retroactively realized that was the guys from the beginning of peso so these are things we're going to be discussing the israel is not reach in the same thing in reverse that the jew was the lender he owned the bank like back in europe and the guy gave the jew the comments as a collateral so the jew is holding onto the comments the whole pesach he's allowed to why we said that the the the non-jews comments in the jews house is okay [Music] should we stop here should we go right there let's stop here all right raboissai have a wonderful wonderful day [Music] foreign [Applause] is