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Daf Yomi Pesachim Daf 116 by R’ Eli Stefansky

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thank you dr joey especially for the doctor's wife shirabat varalaya and anina malka badhila hinda also sponsored by diane rubinoff in loving memory of my father-in-law avraham shmuel benari labs alex klein on the occasion of his first yard site the show should have been a leo sponsoring anonymously common five towns for a four his father is a cardiologist no one is immune a very close friend of mine is very upsetting to our family and i'm sure the whole community in which they are loved that they have to cancel the upcoming bar mitzvah for his younger brother shabbas should only have simchas and sponsored by official rhino basin devoro the matriarch of our family and fifth sponsor and miri rosa swag storm the heavens please wow we're running out of time here i have a few really good emails this one is from our very good friend aaron joseph otherwise known as harry shalom from los angeles dear belly i need to thank you this time one year ago i was sitting shiva alone with just my wife and two small children in our apartment los angeles was the big kova deal when you read the email i wrote about the whole situation i was in my inbox was flooded with messages from the mdy members across the globe reflecting on this past year i need to tell you how much my life has changed for the better of course since joining the mdy mishpache when i was trapped at home mourning the loss of my sister without even a shield that goes to kalashnik i had people calling me that i've never met or spoken to me before offering to say kaddish on my behalf when the shows closed together around the time my father's outside i was panicking not knowing if i'd be able to say cathage or make a serum a simple message in the mdy group chad got me several offers within minutes to say cash for my father a family of complete and total strangers and now after this past year i cannot imagine going forward in life without this new family to share life with i'm not i can't believe it's a year it's a full year first of all it seems like it was a lifetime ago but it it's just harry is such a part of the family that it's like wow it's only a year but it's like yeah it's confusing here it's truly humbling to be part of it so i want to say thank you to you and all the mdy guys especially the yosef billiard who has become a great friend with love and gratitude love and gratitude sincerely a true stefanski josed joseph harry shalom from los angeles a.k.a ponovich maths i know we're running late and it's a long daf but we got to do this one more let's see if i can get in here to my old phone um where was this it's called bananas for carpass because yesterday we're talking about strawberries for carabas and i really think i'm going to do this here don't tell my children i want to do strawberries for chiropas and on the side i'm going to do bananas for carpets as well good morning rebelli hope your stage is pleasant i've been listening to your death on youtube since the beginning of kobe last year i'm a dentist in lakewood and commute from highland park new jersey i listened to the pre-game show in the car and watched that on my 16-inch tv each evening with great anticipation i appreciate everything you do along with the mdy staff to make the dive so enjoyable two of my children my and 16 year old both listen every day on the bus to high school as well and are enthusiastically keeping up with the duff netflix and amazon prime are no match for the ellie stevenski show it reminds me of the ma of the muppet show a bit is it embarrassing to say i don't know what that is i know what it is i i've never watched it my son said he's looking forward it's that isn't that that green frog thing guy i i i have no idea my son said he's looking forward to next season's episode i see him sometimes even viewing previous exciting episodes of bragas he seems to know all the supporting characters by name in the show gary seltzer yossi klein nonfix oh yeah bottom line is that the daf has become a central pillar in our family and i have a lot of our karsa toys to you for that we look forward to meeting you in person with chemist when we can visit or be it i'm going to be in new york next week hashem um i think there's like maybe 10 spots left that's it we're almost there we're almost full to capacity um i'm looking forward to meeting the islam it's going to be an amazing experience i believe we have some guest people coming in uh of maybe even a few of the supporting cast members hopefully more than one so it's going to be a great time so if you haven't signed up there's only 10 spots available um what else ps my wife's great grandfather well i'm not telling people from lakewood to come that's a little hot spider but i think it's closer than flying into the chamesh my wife's great grandfather lazar mayor prell this is had the minute to use a banana for carpas so the children would know the brochures his son-in-law is tight of elizabeth pesach ravens of canada highland park continue this middle and pass it down to the grandchildren have a wonderful day you see he started off good morning rebellion he finishes off have a wonderful day evan abrams dmd ish beautiful email i had to get to him because of yesterday that we didn't do in the day before we i still don't have a printer normally but okay voice i today is def tess zion we're holding three lines down in kufta's eye and i have to finish before i could say what good morning by the way because it is morning here in america it's past 12 a.m and yesterday towards the end this year two minutes before then this year the lights went out here the automatic saw well let's try to go before let's try to finish it up before 8 o'clock and i just roll so the lights don't don't go out on us again says the mishna even though hirosius is not a mitzvah you dip the murderer in characes now before i forget to tell everybody there is a minogue and there's a gerso in the regb sorry i haven't eaten anything all day so are people that literally take teres they take earthenware they crush it to pieces and they throw it in the characes so i saw one of them says and this is i'm mortified to see this craziness and he goes on to say what do we take blood and purim out of our bodies because of zechar lahiriga so but i think there are still people that might might be doing this because of the gears of heroes so if there's no mitzvah in characters then why in the world do we use characters either it's a poisonous worm or it's the poison the sap within the vegetable and we have to we have to get rid of this danger by dunking it in harasses if a person got sick by the worm or by this sap so what does he do he eats a radish now guess what the radish also has the worm the radish also has the sap so what do you do for that so what you do the antidote for that is leak well there's a big problem leek also has the worm leak also has sap copper the cartier so if it gets you then you go to the hot water cabinet and in fact hot water works for everything will burn out that worm or sap meanwhile what you could say is and this could be based on the marshall that we had over there in guitar that many times the gemara injects different things from the safe river forest that was written by malach through el chas you just have to know where to find them so this might be one capo i remember you le and your seven daughters and to your eight mother-in-laws i remember such a suit i forgot where how when so forget that i'm saying this but it rings a bell remember there's such a thing that somebody actually had eight daughter-in-laws of course it's gonna start ringing in people will remember but maybe it has something to do with that but i have no idea what i'm talking about says the gemara review yesterday the big nays that the women who were giving birth six at a time they they gave birth under the apple tree as the possum says says that's a possibility reflecting this nice under the under the apple tree they gave birth and they gave birth without any labor pain without anything so zeker to that niece nikla we eat apples we make a a special matamar the clay the cement that they used between the the the bricks when clients froze building whatever they were building the pyramids or whatever you want to call whatever they were building over there they had to use the tit and this is a to that therefore let's take let's combine everything you have to make it taste tart like an apple so put some apples in it but sorry you have to make it thick like cement exactly and we also learned tavlin so what do you put inside the characters you put in the vinegars to put in cinnamon and ginger and for whatever reason back in the day maybe even 20 years ago the way they used to make ginger and cinnamon was a little thicker a little bit it looked like straw not as thin like we have it today so it has a zeker to test when you walk by the marketplace like they're screaming out today i don't know what they scream out loud whatever they're screaming at over there estrogen astray game so in those days when you're walking in the marketplace before pesach they would scream out boy with lulu and they would stick in the word limits so if the guy in the store is screaming out that it's a mitzvah oh apparently it's a midsole what the guy in the store doesn't know what he's talking about obviously it's a mitzvah which reminds me i was talking to a non-religious juvenile destroyer and he told me he said you know on hanukkah i'm very making to eat donuts even though i hate donuts i think they're very unhealthy and i hate them but i don't want to be over and i want to be kind in the midst of eating donuts in hanukkah so i was just thinking like if that guy he thought that's a tremendous mix of the donuts but i'm saying you're talking about sadiq that own stores in those days and they said le mitzvah so it must be a mitzvah the official mishna sponsored by official from official catering before we go into the mishnah since i'm here by myself and i don't have anybody yelling at me unfortunately i i would know what's going on maybe get out and say someone like him to me i'm very iserk what what are you saying we miss you i miss you too but from schwartz is on and yankees on all the way lemma you remember schmulie lemmer the kid from kensington he's back he has been as mad him now so he's on again 1 15 in the morning unbelievable we're almost done we're almost done with the full mastectomy for you it's amazing and one last thing i have a question for jerome cornwood how's my ankle doing so i don't know if you know nobody's listening so i could say this there's a lot of tsar going on in my house the the dog they don't call the dog we shouldn't be talking about it because like a chair with a dog it's a whole it's a bit it's a big problem but there's a certain dog going around and the dog has a dog you know about this dog he has a a a stuffed animal dog that i got from a cabrusa as a gift don't ask why my habrusa thought that if i have a stuffed dog that it's going to fool my kids and they're not going to want a real dog so you got us but the dog the real dog took a liking to this dog and when he doesn't have the dog he started crying he's crying looking all over the house for the dog kid so we looked up and down we couldn't go to america because you can't couldn't find the dog i called him i said listen remember you got me a dog from ikea yeah i needed another dog no problem he went to ikea got the dog i don't know if he gave it to you but if you haven't met him you should just know you did you crave as a big tactic he went all the way to ikea i have no idea why first thing i thought like why would he do that why i wouldn't do it for him he went all the way to ikea to get a dog and he has it in his car so anyways look him up and get the dog all right so now that we have that we could go to the mishnah says the mishnah musgu kois shaney so now we're holding by the second cup of wine the kana benchoy love we eat comments as well and today it's only imagine all types of vegetables now this we don't say why because this is in time of the visa all nights we eat meat that's roasted shalook stewed um cooked but tonight everything is roasted now let me ask you a question we're in the time of some english on the table we have a piece of carbon pesach and we also have the khagigo so how can i say that everything is roasted if i have a khagiga on the table the answer is says tai says because it goes according to bentema that says that even the giga must be roasted remember is that extra carbon that we bring on air pesa so that we have enough meat that we can eat the carbon pesach when we're full of soybeans or let's let's be guys like this every night we dunk and again in the time of the gemara they would dunk everything they took whatever if they ate a banana they dunked it in something in saltwater and according to his iq that's how much he teaches him so this is the biggest site we we touched upon it yesterday that we start with the gnos we start from how clay stroll went through different lows either it was available or it was that we were slaves and then of course that took us out etc so just as a as another thing another thing that no one pointed out to me that the one of the most beautiful things in this world is to have a child to bring life into this world yet it comes with the most painful pain a person can experience i mean i told my wife that i'm not so sure it's true maybe all the women got together and they pretended but let's say let's go along with their scab it's the most painful experience in the world childbirth but from that childbirth comes life again the idea of you have to fall in order to get up either learn a in order to talk about mata torah and talk about that were avadham in order to talk about how we came out and we're free the doiresh it's very interesting that we we talked about love on arami avi and if you think about it for a second what would happen if there was no love and love and didn't fool yaakovino and yakovino married rahul you know where it happened so rakhalimeno would be the only one married to yakov so the bahar would be joseph there'd be no jealousy between the brothers and they wouldn't throw them into mitzrayim we'd never get them it's trying to we wouldn't have any of this so we talked about loving a ramen avi what a liar he was and how because he switched it all around it all happened but everything obviously is for and this is the reason behind it and that's the way it is i mean and then if you if you want to go even more yo he was put in a certain position and he became a king if he wasn't in jail if he didn't have the finster the jail the worst jail the the worst dungeons of of of those days then he wouldn't be king if he wouldn't be king they wouldn't be a goola they wouldn't be a kids are it's all connected if the son is smart he asks his own questions and if he doesn't have a son that's capable of sipur and what's very interesting i find that interesting is that the sipper yudhis mitsuram is in a question answer format it's not that the father gets up and says a story shalom this is how it was you must listen to me rather it's a question and an answering question and where do we see a similar thing gemara question answer question answer the good market this is how you do it finished but no the gemara maybe is based on this idea of super you'd see some trying how do you get it in how does it become clear by asking a question and by coming up with an answer so you have to have your wife ask the questions because that's how you became the super utilize and here's the fascinating one if you don't have a wife you're by yourself again you have to do it in the format of question answer you don't have the question the questioner you become the the question you say the questions yourself you ask the man standing to yourself and all this stuff inside out backside forwards short i'll just share with you a thought that went through my head and again nothing's or anything like that but i am thinking that this year i'm gonna do a little truva and i'm gonna speed up the seder a lot more than years before i think that will be a lot more beneficial to my family my personal family i'm not saying to anybody else speed it up get to the food instead of being retired them and all that that we've done years sometimes you can change change formats we'll bring a little strawberries and bananas and cut it down and whoever wants to listen at the end could listen and whoever wants to run away can run away but in terms of having an effect i think for me personally going a little shorter will have a greater effect on you have to dunk one time what if you don't dunk one time what if tonight at supper you didn't dunk you're over the middle of hanukkah you didn't dance you have to dunk what kind of lotion is it every night we dunk one time sometimes in america they don't dunk at all and there's this role they only dunk on friday nights when they have hummus but who says you have to dunk the tabla [Music] so if we finish the sentence every night of the year there's no heal but the night of pesach there is a hero ask the gemara masculine saffron what's the field you're telling me that the whole time the only reason we dunked the second time or the first time or what we do the first time if you have different vegetables is is it's only in order to to get them going so why is that health to get a kid going it's not a heel you can't tell me it's a it's a mitzvah it's to get him going to make him ask a question [Music] give us something else he was matzo he was murderer to get a kid to ask a question you can't tell somebody oh you might have to put strawberries on the table the asking question that's not after them he asked him a question after the mapping play more of heroes let's say there's a master that just releases his slave beyond the casper not only does he release him he gives him gold and silver my brother may really what is the slave supposed to tell the master you should praise him he should say thank you should i have a curse if that's the case into the truth and now we don't have to stand according to twice as yesterday you don't have to say the homeland at least it gets you going but it's real to say the rest of it you have to say there's four parts of manustana according to you don't have to say anything at all that's it he did it on his own the kid doesn't know how to ask and we was we're doing it from a book so he's saying manustana but if the kid asks his own question and says the russian you don't have to say manustana [Music] here but at the end of the day he was the eye to the manistano and he went right in [Music] says delegation of the official missionary sponsor by official from official catering joe berry shalom alaikum simon bergen mark struhl avi levison let's go the father-in-law the brother buttonheim shalom alaikum i thought i saw balloon before but anyways daddy cornbloop is on cats david handler and the one and only moisture hersh works tirelessly on the aria mercaz i don't know what he's doing he didn't share with me anything about the haggadah but i'm assuming it's a lot of work anyhow god there's a lot of work oh is that harry bloom is that you that says j oh yeah it is you okay fine fine on the bottom of that rubbing i'm loyal we're all familiar with this this is all smooth sailing and tomorrow and the day after and the day after zagato mom and she got the great stuff culturally omar if you don't say these three things you're not yaita is this shyly or what it means does it mean that you're not yelling to the sipu you testaments right or you're not yo the mitzvah you have to talk about the mitzvahs so we just turned to that design on the base sponsored by ellie deichmann brochure for all the mdy team in their everyday lives we saw the two males emails spoke about the mdy team everybody talks about the mdyt in their everyday lives for all the heart of what is especially for our mdy family i i don't have the guy's name in front of me the the static that's part of our share that listens every single day and whoever sponsored for him said you have to tear the hill the himalayan tear the the shamayim so obviously he needs to reform slam us or buy side full slammer for him please consider joining the mdy to healing group tell him that wow i see him he's right in front of me he's on my screen top shelf you should have a tremendous from him from oyez from all your children only simchas also what i want to say um yeah you should just know as a side note we have a lot of sadiq in our group the this guy yossi klein you might have heard of him from superior plumbing as i mentioned before he's donating i don't know hundreds of art school gemaras from sakta suma he's giving them out to anybody that's joining this year sorry you guys that are on the show ready too late you came on for free the new guys are gonna get an article gemara sent to their house by art squirrel so it's an amazing thing i know there's other people that were mustaf bilum shem nabi lum sham a few people in if they added more they want to get hundreds of people to join this year so it's amazing thing i didn't ask him he's doing it on his own you don't understand the amount of time that guy puts into it he just thinks about it all day long i don't know how he does it you saw his father's store burnt down to the ground and he's thinking about how is he going to promote this year it's unbelievable anyway he says the gemara if you don't say these three things you're not youtube off the mat so we're going to see in the gemara why because our forefathers by the gullah shenanigans they baked the dog etc you have to envision yourself as if you were a slave and you had that gaula to me not to somebody 3000 years ago but to me myself so the village says over here that we're going to say 10 la shoi noise including hallelujah it's the representative representative of the marcus the famous maiden that we say every day which is one of the biggest things in sri lanka just to thank you thank you thank you for giving me life thank you for being here thank you for letting me learn torah does the praise exalt i don't know these words i got them from the heart scroll la hadder to honor levare to bless la lay to extol yeah that's how you say i don't even know all the calais and two hold on a clay not mine this is my brother-in-law's but they work i might have to give in i might have to go with that rat one day let me show you some ilu to the one who did to our forefathers velano once again lano because where would we be we probably erased we wouldn't it's not that we would be slaves we'd just be gone read this with me how do you understand this we say this all the time and we we seem to understand this i want to give you a new meaning to these words think about it okay that's simple took us out from and we're free keep on going what does that mean from sorrow to happiness when when when were we sorrow and when were we happy then that night why is that not included in me abduslojeros and then it goes we're in mourning why we're in mourning nobody died in mourning who's yantev what's yantev and from darkness so what we're talking about the same moment who took us out of israel it was so just say we came out of it's right and finished one lashes i never thought about it until i saw something um what's this talking about we already said we went from abuse to hyrule so why are we saying again is referring to the next step we are in sorrow when we face the yamsev when we face death certain death the enemy is behind us with all the chariots and their swords and we have nothing and we have a ocean in front of us and then the simcha it opened up and we had kris is talking about the ego the mesa ego we were in avelos the torah and it gives a whole different meaning just instead of repeating the same words he's saying the same thing over it's talking about different kufus and clyde israel hallelujah now what's interesting is that we all know this but it gives us a better understanding that we split the hollow into two parts this part a and then we go into eating and then this part b why because in the time of the migdash when we were eating the carbon pesach it had to be sandwiched in hollow you start off with hal and you finish off with halo eat you don't just say the whole hell and then eat the curry pasta or eat the curry paste and say the whole so there's a sandwich so we also do sandwich today how much do you say though which is the first chapter that we say in our how today just one chapter one parrot which is already the gula maybe that's why makes xiaomi don't want to say it but you say two parts two pieces and bashami say you say one explains you finish off the ghoula but that's what the machete's verb reptile fenugreek is coming up right now what's this mug it's a very short hassimo and since this is a very short hashimoto's retirement there's no need for extra bar hashem because it's a it's a it's a birkish mitzvah you just say it's a short thing any time it's short you don't say you don't start and close with parkhantasha so i should go lanu because have you seen me and finished hold on i'm back beautiful yeah you're off great toilet is on their toes okay we don't need this listen how many people already get to this part of this year is it ready oh it is one minute to okay i should have been done already that's what they're saying okay and tomorrow if you take a peek at how many words forget about raid forget about anything just just to read it is [Music] and to other yamato and you're saying in peace happy with the building of your city we should be able to sprinkle the blood you spoke about now since it's so long and intense and it has kosha so therefore you say and that's what we do today it's no longer a tiny little bracha and we also had the the the ritsu in bakasha so you have to be khaisem as well you start off with the barakata shemi and with the bargain you have to say these words and he took us out you have to lift up the monster when you say matsuzu why because it gives khabibo mitzvah we love the mitzvos you have to lift it up what about we discussed yesterday the shank bone but we don't have really the shank bone of the canvas so we do a wing somebody sent me that it's the the zeke of the confinesharim you lift it up but you don't lift it up why because we don't have a carbon pesach but it's not good to lift it up if you lift it up it will seem as if you just made a carbon pesach or he made kachin outside of his amigdas in chicago in new york somewhere and that's 100 awesome someone who's blind should not see that god incredible she says [Music] that if a parent is blind they cannot bring his son to be a certain murderer we don't kill him probably sumo afghan brothers so somebody who's blind so this is child is it a real shadow or we're learning just like over there they have this idea so too over here any moment reminds charltino they're about in the bear of joseph over and over and over again not only was his revisive the one who forgot his learning and this but the isis was blind we just had it the other day rebecca is blind and not only that refusal is blind two friends they learn they both learn by rav and they both are blind why because as soon as rabbis lift her they felt that they had it they weren't controlling the shmir sanayam and that the douche was whatever the gemara says i don't remember exactly but they asked the british alum to make them blind and they became blind so if they're blind says the gemara who says that god that by rabbi joseph's say the table says who says it over there omri raviosif regards himself says it but he's blind how could a blind man say it now i want to point out because i said grug rugra so i know that slammy klein and his buddies in the crown heights are going away so i want to say i mentioned yesterday but i saw in the name of that one person should say the haggadah because of you see from this gemara right over here i don't know if lubavitch does that well here i'm sure after the shira and zoom slam is going to get on and tell us what they do but the rav the ballad says that only one person and here's this in the gemara was maduek yesterday as well who says that god did by you what do you mean who says every single person is that god the world i've got no revisive alone is the one that said that god says what is that that's it's 804. okay i got the big raft who says who says that got the bear of chase over after this okay once again obligation bonus look more answers the reason why revolution said that god does because matzo nowadays is through our body because it says that the only time you eat matador rice is when you have a carbon pacer if you don't have a current place enough you don't need matador rice's they're a bottom and the same thing would apply to secretism is right so since it's older about it anyway says of aches asking review could reversers say that god uh he obviously holds that the same man to eat massive his mana says their eyes so and that's why super seasons time is their iso and how could a blind man say it oh it has to resemble their eyes you're right today is there a button but just like a blind man doesn't say it in the time of the eraser in the time they said the sublime man is not going to say that because he's blind so to today even if those the rabbit has to be similar to their eyes but they also should hold hawada he called doesn't fit at all she's saying oh here's here's our son what's up tell me to relax i understand he needs to dive in this second you know what every day i'm on zoom i'm in in the basement and i go all the way to 8 10 and he never says a word all of a sudden here 806 uh relax it's completely extra it doesn't make any sense what what else should it say here probably also by there it doesn't make sense to say who but over here why is it extra what what what should the tires say we're talking about that he has to point to the matso he has to point to the mother what else what other word do you want the target to say also it's it's fine and that's why uh rashes and rabbi yosef said the hagoda and they hold they don't hold like like revacci that a blind person is [Music] that's it you're done thank you thank you they're not mine they're not mine i'm thinking about it it helps a little bit i have to say it helps especially in this dim light [Music] all we finished that 806. so we would sing would be 807. which song do you want me to sing is not a song also you know let us see just like you know i eat matzah 30 days before pesach you don't you don't see the man understand the 30 days before it pays off is he still on oh here eight down how are you doing anytime what chamomile how are you doing i don't think i've ever seen you on zoom i i i rarely put my picture on i'm in houston texas when you do it ah from houston texas thanks monday you will yes you're flying in from texas just for this i i actually i live in teaneck and i work in houston so i'll be here oh you couldn't just tell me yes you're flying in and it would it wouldn't be far from the truth okay good it would have been a little name as das but okay no but ravel you met my son i heard on a friday night you brought him into your house oh that's right that's right that's right yes yes yes yes it's very interesting i have to tell you i was i was wearing my mask and i was outdoors and all of a sudden your son comes over and goes rebelli i'm like yeah like i recognize you with the mask i i thought that's incredible after he was already in israel so the only way he knew you was because of i send clips of your zoom to him so that he could be meets tara and i said look out for this guy but you know it's amazing also you know where you know where he ate by his rebbe who lives directly below my apartment i live on the fourth floor he lives on the third floor that's crazy yeah so he was going up anyways i said you know i want to show you the new the new little room the mdy room i built so i showed him i don't know if he appreciated it it was like oh wow yeah yeah yeah cause he's sitting on the table over there he goes what you guys are learning ivory soccer so the kid is holding listen the kid is holding yeah it was very nice it was very nice meeting him i'm bringing another son with me his older brother beautiful beautiful all right looking forward i'm telling you it's gonna be great times great times oh you know ellie every day you're dropping a bomb on me yesterday i heard you might be coming to the ceiling so what what are you going to do in order to stroll where are you going to go in there oh he's moving downstairs hold on a second i got it i got it here this is a good child ellie good night good night y'all i'm looking forward to seeing you hey ellie did you do you'd like to shout out from the villenegoine on mishima lagula my fellow lawyers for yo what's going on you've been there for five minutes it's not okay it's not okay ella you're always telling me you're not gonna work ready fired uh for being when he was here for two days what i didn't hear what did you fire you sure what yo y'all said that uh when your show was in chicago and he was there for two days he didn't get the radio within 48 hours you fired wow wow listen no seriously slimy slimy i'm not kidding you things are changing the world we're changing the world i would never i know you know what the valentine is different that's not true i i would quote him but i did it badafka i said i have if i'm going to quote the guardian i have to quote i have to quote the ballet quote about that i i actually said it yesterday but i said because today i saw it inside from the bellatanya gotta do it again and i know you're gonna get on my case that i said two goings in a row it's like the gun said it's the ten tanissim and this is like forget it in general very very similarly a lot of time a lot of times so what so tell me so do you really do the seder like that or no first of all there is there is also something called the pisgah which is later on in life the alter the balatanya added into his main sitter different soccer and sometimes they're not exactly like he has it's a little different yeah generally we follow that as far as to say there i can't speak full of babies because i don't know the official rules i can tell you what i grew up with i grew up with all the men said that i brought it together so the kids are not no different than everybody else no different than everybody else yeah who doesn't there's people that don't do kids themselves i never heard that somebody doesn't what here let me ask uh who should i ask what's his name that one person needs to make but they say it they say it quietly not quietly but they say they brought for themselves burnout hold on israel he's a he's a full-fledged husset what do you guys you the women say about you yeah everybody starts together right racist together no i never heard of such a thing as women not saying it they'll be very i'll be very shocked if there's a minute not too you