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Daf Yomi Nedarim Daf 68 by R’ Eli Stefansky

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I want to start off this year welcoming all the new guys that started the daf with us from kesar navshi here's a picture again I'm gonna show the same picture we showed last night because now it's more relevant first time Levine wrote to me this morning and said 42 people signed up 42. so I said how'd you do it he says oh God Miller the guy running the whole function instead of being worried about what what they're serving and who's speaking running around in the lobby copping people for tyro so all these people that signed up welcome you thought you're going for a weekend of Kino and it is I was there and I gained tremendously and I actually is it I took some of the stuff I learned there and put it in my life cavali I didn't have this 30 years ago but not only are you going there for a week it might actually change your life for the better bringing in more Torah enlarging your family the circle of friends so basil Hashem we can finish shots together yeah all right welcome if they're on live now you know in question actually nobody Sleeps so yeah it's one in the morning that I don't know what time it is but everybody's up anyway huh what's your room oh again what yeah oh not sure you mean speeches through the night yeah speech is unbelievables of classes classes yeah just gonna show my little concussion all right hi everybody I was hoping to be able to announce that house Ezra Pollock's so as Republic yeah Ezra Pollock that's being held Sunday in Fairlawn but boys if you remember one of our khaverim lost he was on a family vacation to the Bahamas and suddenly his two-year-old got sick and was nifter tremendous tremendous loss and uh a lot of the clever went to be minakum oval so now they're doing and I think dialam if you know you go it's a beautiful thing and this is something else everybody here could do if you're in their control and around the world you could dive in for Tani and his wife especially his wife you need tremendous amount of his work it's such an unbelievable loss yes people think they don't have to dive in because they just had a kid they just had a boy just recently no that Sarah is still there still fresh so we gotta Dive In this is kaim Hirsch and my son Jake from Hollywood Florida we're at yoshir tonight it was the first time we were at mdy what an incredible experience an amazing two kisses from Hashem that I must share the very last thing you mentioned you shared tonight that we say that Hulu on Friday night the gemara Shabba says you're partner with Hashem you noted and I heard others say this as well to ask Hashem at that point for any issues he might need here comes that is Cheer in Florida and I literally said the same word over last week in my share however someone put me on the spot with a great question how can you make a request from Hashem and Shabbos there's no personal about cautious on Jarvis I was somewhat embarrassed during my own cheer because I didn't have a good answer Rebecca hear this he was embarrassed so if you have a good question keep it to yourself don't ask me don't embarrass me but today hours before you share I thought of a possible answer so he's thinking about this before this year and he came this year and he told me this answer last night we know that but there are some opinions who say you should not be asking Sadiq to talk to Hashem on your behalf I've heard Sherman where the advice is to informed that they can RV situation and then decide whether they'll ask Hashem for you but you're merely informing them over here holding and your situation based on this I thought the same concept could be applied here you're partner with Hashem at this time so it's a great opportunity to form to inform and share with him the information of how you are feeling without making a specific requests okay so anyways just an activation today before you share a kiss from Hashem the second thing is he's saying that he went on his he's got came down to stroll for a bunch of days 15 days to put on his son's filling here they are and he says that they decided to finish uh say their Maya together and decided to do the last parrot and what are the last Knights over there the learning all about filling they were at the castle they opened up their smites they started putting on film boom a mission about filling so it's a kiss for my chef for him was introduced to that from a friend of mine haven't looked back since I'm holding the Darwin with the ilum it's a pleasure to learn with the enthusiasm of the ndy program all the best in Miami ah maybe before okay I'll just say a few things here it's unbelievable Suki today we're holding it suggest suggestion our voice site today is a very very special day it started last night it goes into today is exactly three years ago we started chass Rocco's Daves exactly three years ago we moved into this mixed marriages to the day three years to the day so good morning it's an extremely Mirage how do you see Mirage in English yeah yeah I'm sorry I'm so excited so emotional that I forgot the word we this is a tremendous milestone building a building just with that view I mean we believe it's one of a kind so time flies like this it's unbelievable we we didn't have lighting then we didn't have drywall we was just we didn't have Windows it was dark and dreary remember that first day projector shining on the tables those were the days we didn't have windows Yep so three years and bar Hashem look at this place we didn't have Benny we didn't have a lot of guys and we had a lot of guys and I don't know where they are now I'm looking here I've always had Michael bunch of truth I forgot to mention I was on the phone the refry him Shapiro from North Miami Beach the famous Rob over the famous speaker and he told me he's like I don't know he knows a lot about this year and he said you know you got Michael Venture Twitter in Miami those all the sumim he's the the leader so even Rabbi Shapiro knows about it and we want to thank you you're here sitting here guest from Miami thank you for everything you've done in Miami and everything you're doing now for the big season Miami we anticipate I'm going to be there myself and a bunch of guys are going who's going from this room anybody wow I gotta zoom out for a second Keep Your Hands Up keep your hands up how many people there's more than 10 people here wow there's Kyla you're coming you're gonna see the real sky little red boy Michael Benson street is going to be there unbelievable unbelievable woman what are the illusion you're coming unbelievable you Benny you have a ticket maybe okay hello Hill is coming avi's coming nothing not anybody want to sponsor a ticket foreign we're talking yesterday about a father being made for another of his daughter and if his daughter's engaged so he it's made for the nether he knows the nether together with her husband we call him a husband because in those days engagement wasn't just an engagement there was a real she's a anxious ish an artist will call him an artist now when the when the Father annulls the nether of his daughter does it matter what kind of nether it is does it matter if she says she's gonna not she's not gonna eat chocolate or she says whatever she says does it matter or any nether he could be made for how did you guys learn look how are we learned any any Nether and we're going to learn today that's not the case very specific in the dark they have to do things between him and her and things that could hurt her you know nephesh and Baylor which is really I love that we say by a husband and a wife that also applies to father I thought is a huge another thing the fact that a father and a husband can know the daughter's another and that's to be the day they hear of the nether but each one look here on his own no so here's a question what if a father hears a Nether on Sunday and he annulls it he's made for it the husband only hears about it on Tuesday and he's made for it do the two forests combined as one and the nether is mufur now it is a very interesting thing going on here that we learn in the sugar if a nether is weakened somehow let's say one of the two makes afore on the nether and then he dies so the other one inherits the entire nether in a weakened state is that better or worse think about a logic I have a nether that's a hundred percent one of them said it's Muffler it took off let's say 50 it's a weekend leather so the the second one that's alive he inherits the other half the 50 but it's in a weakened State it's like fifty percent only is that better for him is it easier for him to annul his 50 or it's worse so you can go both ways actually fine with that let's just say the sponsorships today the month the coil is sponsored by Anonymous from Lakewood the Mississippi sponsored also from Lakewood not Anonymous it is modified crabs are a force limited they should both have a four Slammer the art is sponsored by Anonymous for this month and that's it for today what there's something else I need to say what is this oh this is the art guy so we're gonna keep it Anonymous but a complete reform for khaimsby Ben Leia reforms okay thank you so going back to the first mission of the of the parrot naira muraso we have a girl who's not 12 and a half yet she's not a big area so you could be 11 years old 10 years old she could be a naira is that if she makes a nether she makes a vow and she says she's not going to do something or she's not going to eat something whatever The Vow is typically if she wasn't engaged she's just in her father's domain her father has the right to another Nether and be moving but since she's engaged you need both the father and the husband engaged arusa he gave her a ring she said the father and the husband once she transfers over to the husband's completely she's a complete wife why because there was hopa after those the husband doesn't need the father at all the father has nothing to do with it anymore it's only the husband how do we know this says so here's the Posse between a father and a daughter in her father's house in her in her father's house here we see the idea because they're both together it says ish it says AV you see them both together it's like a heckish it's in the same person together the red and the green ish and AV so they're both mayford together says but we had a whole city yesterday we had a hold off the baby small Ruby small learns ish now foreign a girl and her father's domain she's not engaged then there's a pirate show of a girl that's engaged then there's a parish of a girl or a woman who's married three parishes so the son the middle parish is talking about and engaged the girl and you see from there might Asia old Russia it must be how could it be that a a married man has less power than an engagement how's it possible and the answer is because the engaged man is together with the father together they have the power to know the Nethers somebody who's engaged the Hassan has more power than a married man over his Hal and wife why because he's doing a conjunction with the father so you see for me together both of them so what is done in very small do with that whole Josh says here the other rabba so what's going on here check this out by the way just I didn't show this yesterday so I'll show it real quickly today as the sikkum to the Sugi yesterday and I said it real quickly now this is just with her father in blue so it says if you you're a Russo you need both you need the father and the the husband the shama Isha is the parisha where she's completely married so we learned from there that a husband cannot be made for Christmas we can't be made for midarium that happened before he was engaged before he knew her if that's the center of parisha that's the one she's engaged from there you learn you need the father also that was we just went through it so those are the three parishes H you see it says the word I heard once a joke I I let me see if I remember it it says but I think it's let's play on words that foreign you have a father and you have a daughter the father has the right to be Mayfair his daughters this five Towner 11 year old who goes on shopping sprees he has a and she said okay I'm making that I'm never gonna shop again feels bad for he has the right to unknull it to undo it to unlock it by himself you're here by himself then she gets engaged so now we said that that Torah not far has to go together with the the arrows together with the husband then what happened [Music] how's it go it goes like this I think hold on no oh it's a little bit out of order I'll go upon him the husband dies this guy dies with the credit card bills let's kill them that the father although in step one he re he returns to step one now even though there's a half stick in between the father was able to do it all by himself then came a situation where he could only be made for his daughters in the Durham with somebody else but that's somebody else just kick the bucket so now he goes back to step one where he could do it by himself I went bye bye even though I don't know why you need step six okay he got married she got engaged again to another guy shimmons okay somebody else but the father has the right to annul her nether by himself before she gets engaged you think that he loses his rights his right of doing it all by himself was ruined by the fact that it was a Hassan involved but once you removed she gets engaged twice that's why there's a number six here there's a two she got married twice and what is what correct the word is that right before that he's allowed tell me what you find and why is okay the run just okay one second so you learn from this possible that we use yesterday to teach us that you need a shortlist of a father and a husband he learns another the father is the right to continue doing his thing and Ruby small also learns he learned you can learn to Dina from the says the Run okay the word the husband doesn't have the power to be made with the first husband doesn't have the power to be maker than a darn Accord name yeah so to now this second husband can't be made for the Dharma Clubman before he married her even though the father will be able to I mean the father still has more strength than this second okay so it's aside because you're saying that about uh Ataris nadaram Kleinman but in terms of our sugar what's important is is the fact that she he's not even there she didn't even exist step six didn't even happen but the father could return this thing okay now just to point out if you go back here and this the round says we have to go all the way back here sorry so we learn from here says the run an amazing thing that just like and that's what I asked in the beginning and to me is a big college that's why I made it into a question as we'll see later on the sugios there's a concept of internet fish we'll talk about it soon Indonesia there's different types in the dark there's another where a woman says I'm not going to eat chocolate that's Indonesia she's hurting herself coming also that she's not gonna put on makeup she's not gonna she's not gonna dress nicely so that affects the husband directly some say we're talking about matter relations okay whatever it is we'll see what it is it doesn't have to go that far it could be just things that affect the husband foreign says that according to this that we're learning business we we also learned this that when it comes to a father and a daughter when the father knows the nether of his own daughter it's dafka in those specific types in the dharim like a husband only things that affect the father in other words if she makes a nether I will never give you water I'll never serve you I'll never cook for you that's another between him and his daughter he can a null it and if she says I'm making a net there that I can't eat chocolate anymore you could also because that affects her Indianapolis but has to be similar to nadarium that I have to do like like a husband okay no it's right here boyley oh hot Italian what does he do with um that the husband could be Mayfair in the Durham the afghanistar will see like we with the just explained things that I have to do between the husband and a wife being ish so that's the lotion bin ish look look at the thing for a second nether has to do with uh husband and a wife those are the things that he could be Mayfair I just want to share with you this beautiful remote here I thought it's give out they have to read this sorry I'm putting this over here check this out I thought it's gavali because this has to do with varm shebane Isha you know like we know that when a woman gets married she usually takes on her husband's been hug him I thought it's a fascinating Maisha what if a husband's minute is that his wife shouldn't wear a shayto and she wants to wear a shade though does she have to take on her husband's minute fascinating emotion especially the last part of it says you can't tell your wife [Music] foreign you can't tell her not to now listen to this I thought this get velvetic being foreign I'm saying you can take this to all different places you're such a great exotic you do XYZ you know that various you do or someone comes to your wife you so much better listen this and that be quiet stop being back on your wife when you yourself no okay now we go fighter so here this is just I control it now I could show later net there in enough and share here in the possible is something that hurts you your body is the husband he could be me you could say it's a good you should be foreign now davarius as it says over here in the past together fine here we have a murder the Columbus in Shiloh literally this geological stuff how does it work you have a partnership between two people and the two people together have to come and a null and nether they have to say this nether is no good we'll say about Pat is the shot that each person removes 50 percent of the nether so you have a big Nether and comes the husband and he knows his part he removes 50 now you're left with 50 or what happens is you have the nether comes one of them in the nulls another the Whole Thing Remains just it's weaker so I did a little bit thing based on Judah David he told me to do this here you have a hamburger with all the trimmings it's a full thing a guy came and ate half the hamburger you have a nether it's a nether one guy removed half what are you left with a half a hamburger or the shot as he took that hamburger that had all the lettuce and tomatoes it's still there but you made it you made it weaker it's a full hamburger but it's weaker if that makes any sense now it makes more sense now where's Judah he's not even here you want me to do something else he's going to buy Burgers okay let's see inside megas guys is the husband removing when the husband or the whoever it is one of the two the husband or the the the the the father removes the nether is he chopping it in half or he's making it weaker the whole thing remains there the entire Burger is there just a weaker Burger and we'll see a big enough Camina it's very very lovely this is what they do they try to do this in Yeshiva what's going on how does it how what's the mechanism what's what's the question Jason here you have a picture two hours in case you don't know what it looks like the heifer law so the artist came and he said I'm annulling your nether the whole thing so if you say that you chop it in half so what happened there one out of the two olives goes away there's an X it doesn't exist okay but the other Olive is whole and complete it's a full Olive 100 it's not weak at all it's very very strong and if you eat a kazais if you eat some of the food it doesn't have to be because ice it has to be the right ass it happens to be when it comes to Nether if a person says if this woman say I won't need any olive it's any olive it doesn't have to be a sheer of a Gazette it could be even a okay for whatever reason we're talking about E I mean omega's guy is lakia so she ate both of them now she has to eat both of them because we don't know which one is removed is the one on the right or the one on the left or half of the top and the or the bottom of the other we don't know what he removed exactly he removed half 50 where's that fifty percent I don't know but if she eats both of them so the 50 that's whole is definitely within the two that you ate so she ate a full kazayas she's higher she ate a full a whole it doesn't have your whole size she ate something that's complete I should say not whole complete I'll complete this or she ate here but if he I'm here let me close to college but if the two Jason look at this here look what I did here now if it's weaker you have two Jason but they're not really Jason they're 50 of what they used to be they're whole but it's not a hundred so the fact that she ate it she didn't eat a complete Issa she ate a week yes sir a weekend sir doesn't get you malcus Marcus you get by doing a completed sir over here there's no complete yes it's two but two very weak things they're missing a lot of the molecules I don't know what's going on but they're not they're not his eyes oh I like that I had that problem also in other words nothing happens zero you see you see from the circular that's not how it works it's not it's not it's not even a possibility oh that's a very good question he's asking why is there not a third possibility instead of saying it's weak or it's strong it's zero because let's say let's say uh you need I don't know what's a good example it's not a good example let's say you need to Aid them to testify about somebody that killed a murderer and only one showed up so you have nothing it's not you have 50 of a testimony you have zero testimony so he's asking why do you have a possibility that's zero that's not one of the possibilities there you see that the gamar understood that when when one of them another he accomplishes something very strong exactly how much we don't know but he accomplished that's what we see here I hear no but a lot of times the entire works like he's saying that's why I had the issue also but as always matter fine now when I'm sure would ask Akasha and punovic I don't know if you've ever been there so when the marketer has to cash I've been there a number of times where shock gives you the whole place starts screaming answers there it's like a tummel so you would say before you answer just pause for a minute and think about the beauty of this question it's a beautiful question now answer don't just jump and answer think about to get file the kakash here think pause for a second unbelievable Shiloh okay um I would just recommend I'll do it for you if you don't want go to that fine for a second see something very interesting there's a mission on the bottom of the fire and it says May so happily these circulars if the father dies then the husband doesn't regain his whatever power the the father had it's lost forever since they're both short of him one of the children died that's it no one could be Mayfair the nether if the father dies however Mesa bow if the husband dies Miss reichner versus love the striker is the Russian you take a sack you empty it out you give it to the next guy you take a battle you pour out the the soda into the other guy's cup he gets your power so if the husband dies the father regains full control over here and he could have known the nether that's the end of the mishnah what are the cases we don't know and I believe that the Gilmore doesn't explain it over here no it doesn't explain it over here all the explanations right here in this game are now before we get to the mishna now what [Music] because [Music] so you see the father is a little bit more control than the husband the father regains control the husband doesn't regain control if the father dies there's three possibilities if the husband was not Mickey moneder what are the three possibilities not to be mikaima nether either he did nothing or he didn't even hear about it or he was Mayfair Mayfair is the opposite of Makaya mafer means he unknowled it so those are the three okay it's the same idea mismatch he didn't even hear about it you have to stick in here the gears in Iran is we're switching it I'll explain in a second he heard it but he did that for her right away foreign now this last halacha of he heard it and he was quiet on that the bride says um because if a person hears something and he's quiet for a full day what happens it's as if he's mikaiman so that's why the Rand changes the vashack goes together has to be that you didn't have a 24-hour period that bye yeah all those guys the new guys are starting today you have only that one day to do that pharah you only have today to do the daf every day you have to do that it's not about the death it's about to join me every day and day goes by without doing the Daft you lost out that's it it's very interesting when it comes to Torah a reminder we learned this scenario when comes to Tyra then the day and then goes the night not the night and then the day the the night goes on what's before the daytime interesting okay fine slav so this is what we learned in the mission if the husband dies everything goes to the father now if the husband was Mayfair and then he dies we're gonna see in a second so the father has to redo the her father that the husband did the husband dies doesn't it he took away 50 then he dies so he's saying the the father is in full control and what does he do he doesn't do his 50 he has to redo the husbands 50 as well has to do with 100 interesting Allah sponsored by Greg Haber for broker for his entire family and everyone learning the death and through the members of the HBA group and their families are made if the husband heard it and he said okay it's a good net there is [Music] quiet but there's a full day and that full day of him being quiet makes it a kill it's a good Nether and yeah and he dies the father cannot be made for why because it's already McQueen says the gamar like this the Bryson here are the here are the four possibilities very very simple everybody say check this out you have a father that did a pharah and then he died you have a father that did a pharah and the husband died one in four that basically it's the same case the father did aphara and the father died the father did aphara and the husband died and then you have the same thing case number two and three the husband of afarah and the husband died could the Father continue yes the husband of that pharah and the father died could you do that far no but those are the four possibilities but I just wrote it in the order of the gemara okay so we're going through it now shama V of Avila the father heard that his daughter made a Nether and he said it's a null it's a moofer Wellies and the husband didn't hear that there was another at all and then the father died the father who did aphara the father dies and now he leaves it all to the husband Lord you can't give it to the the husband can't take over why not her voice and why not we have to understand the spot over here the father did his 50 percent and then he died so let the husband do his 50 why can't the husband do his fifty percent the answer is because the moment that the father dies that's fifty percent and now the husband has to do 100 he can't do that he could only do it in a partnership he cannot do it on his own that's the Allah the husband cannot you cannot be moriken you can't pour your stuff over to the husband so the bottom the we're running out of timer the bottom line is the Durant says each thing has each one has a bigger condition than next and he says incredible stuff here basically if the father if the husband heard the the nether now he's a complete he's a complete um partner with the father the the husband heard about it so he becomes a partner look at this is that even if he didn't hear and he's a weak partner even so he can't be Mayfair because the spark will go both ways around says on the one hand you could say if the husband inherits a very weak nether he should be able to be wafer let's say he inherits 10 percent of the nether new so 10 should be easy for him to be Mayfair okay on the flip side you can say no if it's a very weak net there it doesn't go to anybody it doesn't move you can't transfer something weak you can only Transit something that has power it's almost the opposite it's like counterintuitive if it's only like 10 of the nether it doesn't move at all it's hard to move it that those are the two spars here it doesn't transfer I should say shama Bala Behavior law now we're going to the second case the husband heard about this Nether and he did our father right away and the father didn't even hear about it she didn't even hear about it he wasn't even a partner here so to speak with the husband because he didn't even hear about it and the husband died makes a balance striking Russia's lab over here the father does have the power to a knowledge so the round goes into that I would think the Daft could win the father heard about it and then it was equal to the husband then he could be made for but if he didn't hear about it then the husband is stronger and then the the father only has a little bit and you can't transfer a small amount of a nether says Iran I would think third case the husband heard about it and the the father didn't hear about it until the father died the bow was made fair but the the father died that's case three gimmel Hey bow Mayfield so the guy what happened there the one that did that pharah remained alive yeah it's a new case the one that did that for remained alive so even though the father was like not zoja in it the husband can he can't he can't be made for he doesn't get anything here anybody else okay we spoke about hold on should we go right there it's 805. we could go right there and explain the Mars Rio or just start tomorrow from here the middle what do we should do foreign [Music] and he stayed alive okay let's go back to the thing to the charts and the husband didn't hear about it and he died the husband died the father was made for the husband dies explains he doesn't have to redo his part the father already did 50 of his fifty percent hoiser over here means he goes back to do a pharah he has to do another pharah on the other 50 so listen to this real quickly what the right is this in that case there's only machoy's in the last case guys according to beshamai you could you you get rid of your part completely so what's left a full 50 a complete fifty percent and therefore since it's complete you could give it over sure the reason why we still say he can't be made for is because they hold but they still make less colors so going back to the to the original question about two olives according to be shamai of maok is why because he even though he was made for he's made for a half but he left the half that's complete and a complete you get Marcus according to Basil it's College it's weaker maybe we could go over this again tomorrow maybe not so therefore you don't get Marcus have a wonderful day [Music]