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Daf Yomi Menachos Daf 84 by R’ Eli Stefansky
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[Music]
We're live.
Great job. I didn't just hear from other
people, I I saw firsthand.
No, in 22 minutes without you know.
We're holding up paid dollar
like eight lines down two four six eight
nine lines down nine hustle. We learned
over there in the mission over there in
school and we learned
So how does it work?
On
you're not allowed you're going to ask
me what I said in a second.
Okay, yeah. Here we go.
It's not those those I have to put the
oil on back into place.
You guys who you thought you could just
take advantage now it's it's over.
Okay.
We all know you can't plant. You can't
do anything with the sudden.
What happens?
Every time you have a crop and we
learned it a bunch of times sometimes
things just grow spontaneously from the
the seeds that fell off the previous
years crop they grow. A guy walks by the
field he sees the crop he says smack
there's no fresh produce his fresh
produce and it's after he goes in and
takes it.
But we need that's called speaken. We
need some of this crop cuz we want to
bring the owner.
So how do we protect it from these
people?
Rashi says poor people it really means
anybody even rich people are desperate
for fresh crops. What do they do? They
put a a watcher and who pays them?
The pays them because it's for the
for the owner.
Says the mission
watchers knows how to call.
Special.
It was right if it was for just your own
benefit then fine but we need it for the
we need it for the owner.
It
it says show me speak but show me.
So what do you
Not by
owner it says it's forever for all the
generations there's owner
according to you once every seven years
there's no owner going to get it from
from a field but the field is only to
eat and not to burn on his
obviously the tire wasn't talking about
the owner. The owner
overrides this is of
you you're supposed to
owner every every meter.
I
will make I know but
I will I didn't say just sit idle and
not bring a owner on
lay same in the stock.
Bring it
from the year the previous year.
So bring it from
storage you have you have a
Now if you remember yesterday's morning
here
Yeah, let's see what the mission says.
Turn your attention to that
let's see the mission call
it says
not like you just said.
Okay, it's a question.
Being says the one
being Carmel the liquor.
This we had many times. It says in the
Carmel what is Carmel mean? We take the
cuff in the ratio we switch it and
becomes
it has to be soft and has to be that you
you could fetch it with your finger.
So below
that's why I can't use last year's
last year's crop. Look at real quickly
the second to last places on the bottom
it says
table.
Which
we had yesterday on the top of the page.
Where was it like three lines down it
says
owner owner owner. So as
they say
what's what's his question the cloud?
Yes.
You have
a
in
so bring from
what's the problem according to
you can bring from even on owner there's
no reason to battle
once in
the way to listen.
So it says it doesn't go according to
him.
I will follow and see back in the
morning.
Yeah, what about what about all this
stuff?
Stuff that you could eat.
Or stuff that was planted let's say
before I don't know before before before
came in before
let's say.
Anything you could eat.
[Music]
He's saying it should be because it's
because everything's up.
Okay.
No comments no comments.
Every day
I told him that you could hear as clear
as with me with my mic you hear him on a
regular I'm serious when he talks it's
unbelievable.
Yeah.
He's about ready to use this.
Okay, so we have one shot Carmel you
know Carmel probably the liquor.
Okay. Now
the owner it's my
that the fact that the owner has to be
from the new crop not from the old crop
it's my
owner.
Carmel talk with
So we have to remember these two sheets
is not what we're going to say. We say
amen.
What happened to this whole bench over
here?
Come.
Hello.
Fine.
The reason Carmel talk with
It says in the
that it should be rough.
So it has to come from the new crop has
to be and it cannot be from the ocean.
The
reason
why
It says in the
it should be first reason
don't bring from last year's last stock
has to be the beginning of the new
stock.
So what are the two we have Carmel and
we have races and it's going to ask him
these two
it seems like one of them is off.
Most of
them
The
reason
why if you remember
I once did a nice this I thought was
probably the hardest at least to
explain.
The hardest
line in the
was this
remember this chart?
Here so you have
and you plant it over here. And then
you see the the the kids are
Basically what I'm trying to say is that
everything that we're learning now we
had word for word
This is the right here.
It's it's a simple that we had.
In fact we can
make any ball.
What do you do with the barley?
Because we don't have to make any ball
owner owner owner or you ain't
ever going to keep them maybe it comes
from wheat and that the owner brings
three reasons that the owner comes from
barley and not from wheat. Reason number
one the reason why
owner
Never over the mystery.
It says by borrowed it says
of
what does it say?
The barley of it.
Okay.
And
it says word of it
for generations where by the owner
just like the
reason why
because it says the reason why it says
owner.
And the reason why
reason number one
from
reason number two
Maybe
this was interesting one we had the
problem then also it's hard to
understand this
we can say just like we find by
individual
brings the
typically brings the from wheat once in
a while he brings it from where by a
site.
So
it makes sense as we
that they're similar.
We should be not Why I don't know that's
how we decided makes sense that
maybe I am sorry.
So therefore
If
you say that the
comes from wheat
then we don't have an option ever that
the
public brings the community brings a
from barley. So obviously it has to be
that the comes from barley and
in the third shot in my
it
says in the third that has to be the
first crop.
Now if
49 days earlier
by the owner you brought the first crop
out of wheat. So, it's impossible to
bring the first crop on Shavuot from
wheat.
Unless you say that that's that's
considered different.
That was the Sugya over there. That
maybe it is possible to bring two
Bikurims one after another, two first
crop, because they were planted at
different times. And that that
commercial doesn't make sense because
for the Mizbeach it has to be a first
crop, not the first crop five.
So, the Gemara says, what what does the
Gemara bring all this?
Because we had a Machlokes between Rebbi
Akiva and Rebbi Eliezer.
How do I know that I have to bring the
Omer from the new crop and not from the
old crop? Rebbi Akiva said the Pshat is
Carmel, has to be soft.
Rebbi Eliezer says it has to be from the
new crop.
Who does this sound like?
This sounds like Rebbi Eliezer, the new
crop. Doesn't mention anything over here
about soft.
This is the Gemara Teyuvta. See, you're
right. That's a very good question.
Tannaim also.
Ein Mevi'in Bikurim Chutz Me Shiv'at
HaMinim.
Bikurim, the first fruit that you bring
to the Beis HaMikdash only applies to
the Sheva Shiv'at HaMinim. What are the
Shiv'at HaMinim? Eretz Chittah Se'orah
VeGafen Te'einah VeRimmon.
Eretz Zeis Shemen U'Dvash. What's Dvash?
Dates.
I didn't know this until I started
eating dates a couple many Machaneh
Yehudah they have in the fridge these
fat plump dates that are like literally
like honey and they taste like honey.
They're amazing. I used to hate dates.
You know, the ones that you eat on on
Rosh Hashanah for Simanim. No, this is a
the different story. Anybody wants to
try? You'll see what what?
Exactly, the Medjool.
I never heard of this Dvash and you give
your kids a treat. Dvash, now I
understand. It's It tastes like candy.
What?
I never tasted it.
No, these these refrigerated stuff.
Okay.
Akol Panim. Now to get to our Sugya.
I'm trying to stall.
It's not good. We have 10 minutes left
and
Okay.
Says the Gemara Mordechai Getz Chiddush.
The Lo Listen to this Chiddush. It's
crazy.
The Bikurim applies to Shiv'at HaMinim,
but not just not to all Shiv'at HaMinim.
VeLo MeTmarim SheBeHarim. You cannot
bring it from dates that are on the
mountain.
Why says Rashi? Because they're very
sweet. They're too sweet.
They're Medjool or whatever they're
called.
VeLo MePeiros SheBeAmakim. And not from
wheat that's in the valley. What happens
in the valley? There's no drainage over
there. All rain gathers
and it could it could ruin the crop. To
the could spoil.
But it says Meforash, I cannot bring
Bikurim.
If you bring it in the Chiyur, it's no
good.
So, it's unbelievable Chiddush. It's too
sweet, no good. Amar Ulla, Im Heivi Lo
Chiddush. And that's what Ulla says.
And the Gemara is going to have a
problem with this.
If you bring
dates from the mountains which are too
sweet, you're not Yotzei. It's not It's
not even Kodesh. What does not Kodesh
mean?
Anybody can eat it. It doesn't have any
Kedushah.
Korban Reishis.
Shtei Reishis LeChol HaMenachos. Says by
by the Shtei HaLachmim,
it should be the first.
[Music]
The Shtei HaLachmim has to be
the first.
So, it has to be the first of
everything. How do I know
that the Omer which comes from Se'orim,
we just established that the Omer comes
from Se'orim. How do I know that it is
also first? What does that mean first?
So, you think just Pshat simple Pshat,
just to be clear here.
The Omer comes from barley has to be
first. What? That you can't eat other
barley stuff before this?
You could eat other barley because the
Omer came.
So, what what the Pshat is it has to be
before
the other Minchah of of barley, which is
Sotah.
Fine.
Ta'amu Lo Amar Chadash
So,
I printed it out.
Could you see over there?
Yeah.
It It's so many It's very small.
And what happened was I did buy a
printer. I thought I was going to go to
America and bring back a present.
And what happened was I got to show you
this. This is crazy.
I got there the first day
and
this guy stole my printer right off my
porch. Here's the printer.
This is the guy. I'll send you the
video. I have it on video. I have to
share.
They all look the same to me.
Akol Panim.
I got I got another printer. It's fine.
[Applause]
Oh. But it's a lot of words. Still very
small.
If it's a small Posuk, it comes out
unbelievable. I tried it out.
Akol Panim. What was this Psukim by
Shtei HaLachmim?
And in the Shtei HaLachmim, it says the
word Chadashah.
Chadashah Chadashah.
VeChiyuv Chadashah and over here also
Chadashah. Maybe Vayikra should be
before Bamidbar. Lo Meshaneh.
And over here it should be by itself.
Next.
See this paper? It's Gishmak. Feel this.
So, it's American also. I brought this.
American paper this.
You see you can see the both ways. It's
both ways the Israeli paper.
This 32 lb. Akol Panim. So, what do you
do when you have Chadashah
Chadashah
twice. It's Mamesh extra. What do you
do? So, there's a Halachah there's a
Segulah that says the concept. If you
have a word you don't need you need an
extra, you can use it for something else
completely.
That's a rule.
So, I'm going to use it. If I can't use
it for Shtei HaLachmim, what am I going
to use it for?
To the Omer.
Gemara, it says Chadashah Chadashah.
Im Ein Ein Chadashah Shel Chittim, May
Ein Ein Chadashah Shel Se'orim. I go all
the way from wheat to barley.
So, therefore I have a I know
So, I know that barley, meaning the
Omer, has to be
the
first of its kind before it.
U'Minayin?
The Gemara is going to go through every
step. The Gemara is going to say how I
know that this has to be first of all
first.
U'Minayin?
Kodemes to Bikurim. How do I know the
Shtei HaLachmim? Going back to Shtei
HaLachmim. Forget about Omer now. We're
back to Shtei HaLachmim. How do I know
the Shtei HaLachmim is before Bikurim?
Now, what's the Gemara's Kashya? It's
very deep the Gemara's Kashya. Because
Bikurim has the same exact words as
Shtei HaLachmim. It says Chadashah and
it says Reishis by Bikurim. So, maybe
Bikurim should be first?
No. Before you bring any fruit to
Hakadosh Baruch Hu from off your tree,
first you have to bring the Shtei
HaLachmim. Ta'amu Lo Amar VeChag
HaShavuos.
So, the Gemara is learning VeChag
HaShavuos means what's what's Negayah to
Shavuos, meaning the two breads.
Taseh Lecha and then only Bikurei
Chittim. After you do the Shtei
HaLachmim, then I bring the Bikurim.
So, I know the Bikurim of
Bikurim. What's Bikurim? From the
Shiv'at HaMinim.
So, in the Shiv'at HaMinim I have wheat.
So, maybe this the Shtei HaLachmim comes
before the wheat of the Bikurim. What
about other parts of the Bikurim?
Bikurei
Where am I?
How do I know Bikurim that are come from
barley? How do I know the Shtei
HaLachmim is before that? Ta'amu Lo Amar
VeChag HaKatzir which is talking about
Shavuos. Bikurei Who is the two the
Shtei HaLachmim?
Mas Asher Tizra BaSadeh. Asher Tizra is
referring to other stuff.
Ein Ein Asher Tizra. Amar Rebbi Nechemia
Meleila Minayin? Says Meforash that you
planted. How do you know like we were
talking about the Sefichin that come
back themselves? How do I know that the
Shtei HaLachmim comes before them?
Ta'amu Lo Amar BaSadeh. Anything in the
field. Ein Ein Asher BaSadeh. Minayin
Rabbosai? Oh.
VeRabbosai SheBeGag VeSheBeChurvah. What
if I don't I don't know that I have to
bring
this Shtei HaLachmim before the Bikurim
that grew on my rooftop or that grew on
the Churvah VeSheBeAtzis, in a flower
pot. VeSheBeSefinah, that grew on a
boat.
How do I know that I can't bring Bikurim
before the Shtei HaLachmim? Ta'amu Lo
Amar Bikurei Kol Asher BaArtzam.
Everything. Kol Asher. Everything
BaArtzam in their land. Everything
including on the rooftop. Including on
the including the boat.
Minayin Shtei Kodemes LeMasah. How do I
know the Shtei HaLachmim comes before
the wine? U'
What kind of fruit are we talking about?
The dates, the Medjools, and the and the
olives? Cuz the wheat and the barley we
discussed already. How do I know it
comes even before the other Shiv'at
HaMinim?
Ne'emar Kan Bikurei Oh, so for this I
have a nice chart.
This is interesting.
He thought he's walking away with a
$7,000 mission.
Why why is the possible that
if it's not Dr. Lerman
or if it says it's even speaking or
anything like that? I don't know.
Don't know.
It's exactly the opposite.
Also, another But here's what's very
interesting about this possible. You see
the red?
The red is talking about Sukkot.
And the black is talking about Shavuot.
It's very interesting. The higher
quality of the circle. It's a good thing
I can read from the other side. I share
Israel by soda.
Now,
my circle
You see it says the word my circle.
And over here it says the word my
circle. So it's a show between the
beginning of the possible which is
talking about Shavuot. The Aussie is
talking about Sukkot.
Now, the moral assumes that in Sukkot
everything is already
done. Everything grew already. So on
Sukkot you already have
wine. You already have grapes. You have
You have olives. So if you already have
olives, so you take the my circle from
over here having olives and grapes and
you learn it to over here that by
Shavuot is also referring to grapes.
That you made an onion?
No, it's not This is my very show. My
circle my
Is the moral taste different or the
coffee? No, the coffee. It's different.
Very different. Yeah.
What is that?
It's like the moral.
Never can be cool in my circle. What's
calm?
In the beginning of the possible the
name of the alone later on at the end of
the possible
My alone is so very silly. Don't just
like in Sukkot.
You already have everything. All the
fruit is grown. I can only do this in
Sukkot and very silly.
So now the moral comes to this question.
It says like cool
from the rooftop.
So how now going to the top line of the
page it says
I don't take I don't take Ulan Ulan said
it's not even college. If I take the
cool from from a date that grew
on a mountain. Forget about
on a roof. Forget about on a boat. On a
mountain. It was a little high. It's not
even be cool. You know what it says
before I take the cool from a boat top.
But maybe the quality is better.
I know, but you're going to tell me the
quality of a boat is good. It's a It's
not good.
And the moral doesn't hold like the
moral says you're right.
You can't take the cool from a rooftop
and you can't take So why does it you
take the cool from a rooftop? Says the
moral possible
not even talking about the cool.
It's talking about
It's the cool of course you can't take.
It wouldn't be college. Must give the
moral about how
it's talking about the moral It's kind
of It says before the possible go to the
circle So anybody can eat it including
your wife. The cool of the circle
only the male can eat my circle. I'm
going to try to break the CD. See the
higher referring to the only you the
males It's going to be a circle.
The higher contradiction everybody can
eat it including your wife. Okay, so
come be cool in the Everybody can eat
the cool. Come be my circle in the first
part of the
is referring to the iron.
The ratio cool my circle No, it's all
referring to my circle not be cool. We
say for the cross my There is a call my
the bread that you have to bring all
your friends to eat. That they can eat.
Says the moral.
They
going back to this
date that grew on a mountain. Says the
moral is my for
maybe like
says like Ulan.
If he brought it there's nothing. No
cool.
There is cool. Now so why and he
explains it's as if
the cool in the Just like I'm supposed
to bring a nice fat
animal.
What if I brought a skinny disgusting
animal? It's a no no, but it's a car. So
if you're also
weak, but still be cool.
So we're talking about the time he said
a very good reason.
What
is his reason?
All my loser. I saw him in And if I saw
him in my dream Listen, I mean I know
for a fact that because of this cool I
saw him not only did I see such a good
like
but I saw
the person we're talking about. The
person we're looking for a reason and I
know I'm going to come up with something
good. Oh my god.
My rations. It said by the
It says my rations. The light
In other words, my rations
meaning it should come from the cool
should come from my rations.
And not everything else. My
is an exclusion below my rations. Not
all your land meaning and not from a
mountain. What's going on? Everybody's
all giggling. It's a
It's a good sign. It's a good sign.
Why not?
Listen,
trust me. If you came to
they ask you about the question
So what tell me you go Oh my god. I
can't believe it. I just dreamed of him
last night. It makes it like it Now it
falls together. It all came together.
It's not like he dreamed Not like they
had a question and then he dreamed. He
had a dream and then he dreamed. Then he
Then they asked him a question. Makes
sense. If you came
What if your name was a loser? Maybe he
wanted everybody to remember so that's
why he see it at the end.
Talking about
the real deal here.
Look at this.
Okay, we're talking
about We're talking about doesn't need
to come on this. We're talking about the
way What does he do with the word
circle?
He doesn't need to come on this.
Draw sure. We're going to decide your
by Rabbi Omer. Never can hear it by the
cool. Whenever
it is done by the by talking about it
says my alone It's
like I can't hear it. So also by the
cool we're talking about the beauty of
What's so beautiful about What's the
What's a mile of the meaning?
We are mayor of
I It says mayor I have two drawers over
there from the men. We are mayor of my
circle doesn't learn from the men. 20 of
them.
Now we have a contradiction in the
braces. One brace it says maybe it's
also you know Maybe the
it's fine to bring the cool from there
and read. In other words, it's the real
deal. It's the real So
maybe the cool.
The brace says if you brought it don't
don't read the cool. It's not real be
cool. We're talking about the show. Gaga
gaga show. Now we have to go through all
four things. You have the the gag Aussie
you know what else the cool. So the two
types of gag says the moral
the moral hug the gag device. It's the
rooftop of a cave. But what's a cave
made out of? It's made out of dirt. So
it's a real It's a real car.
So there's no problem over here.
Cool like I can't see the cool cool cool
cool.
called
a cool cool a house can't act out but
they cool planting. Aussie I can't see
the cool cool cool.
I'm not exactly sure. You have a a that
a clay or fell down and they started
planting. They They They cultivated it.
It's a cool that they they they planted
on it. So it's no different than any
ground. You might prepare the ground
properly if it's in the field. Exactly.
So he's What he's asking is then it's a
field. Then it's a field. No, no, no.
It's in the house.
It's in the house. Not in the house.
It's Oh, you mean walls and everything.
Clean out the house. It's He's saying
it's one of those sun rooms. It's one of
those What do you call it?
A cool means it's a house that's it's
very rickety racket. It's It's still up.
So but they cultivated the ground inside
the cool. Fine.
Maybe it has less sun. Maybe it has
No, the floor is dirt, but it has these
walls around it. So maybe
It's a sun room.
Aussie Aussie
That's obvious. You know what I'm
saying?
If it has holes in the bottom then it's
unique from the ground. So it's as if
it's on the ground. Sweet I can't see I
love this one. I can't see the
I can't see the house.
Don't try this at home. You have a sweet
made out of earth
You hear
a like the Titanic.
He's right to the point where it's
talking about it's actually touching the
ground. You have to say that this one
this this we know
Yeah, yeah.
It's a house boat. Fine.
It's You don't You don't take it across
the Atlantic because if you hit a
iceberg or something it's finished.
If you hit a fish it's finished.
It could float. They don't They don't
use it for flotation. They use it to put
in the ground.
Whatever. Over here
Over here for sure it's talking about
it's touching the ground. If it's in the
If it's in the water it's far from the
ground. So then even though it's made
out of
you don't have a connection to the
ground.
And you shouldn't say this.
I didn't see the show.
No.
So I don't understand.
Cuz it's touching. It's touching.
It's touching. That's exactly the chat.
That's why I would say it's touching. I
I knock off even without touching if it
has a hole, then it's Yonic. Over here,
the fact that it's touching does not so
it's brown. Brown and brown is fine.
10 minutes and we're on the bottom.
Can we finish the
Now,
Hello, there beautiful
According to doesn't matter what we're
going to say. We could say this is a
knock off. Any knock off it's on a house
says you can never bring the corn from
it. It's inferior quality. Quality you
can't bring the corn from it. How is he
going to answer this? So you write you
can't answer but we have a contradiction
between the prices. I know you the sign
you should be gone should be maybe the
corn. Should be also
anyway we call
you don't bring it out at all unless
they
one one last line. What?
If you bring it, why not? Yeah?
You don't bring it and if you bring it
all the you have the best quality flower
called this.
I'm going to I'm going to let you know
I'm going to let you know so these two
told me I don't know.
What are you doing so much what are you
doing in Nissan in front of us? Bring
vegetables.
I want to show you
I'm going to bring it to you.
Where we what is this now?
8:15?
I was you you could you could leave this
I'm I'm keeping it up. The last time you
left was
No, two I need a little bit of time to
to to print stuff out to to this.
We do it what time is over?
Is this all by the way?
is over 5:30.
So could it be 7:00?
But it's going to be too complicated. We
should just
We did every single 9:15 so why is 7:30
too late? 7:00 7:00 7:00
7:00
we always say.
I wouldn't
feel this feel this paper. You got to
feel this.