Daf Yomi Kiddushin Daf 9 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning round boys and we have a tremendous tremendous guest we have a lot of guests today but one person who's a huge huge part of the share big surprise muradna cash is in the house where boys are big welcome from sponsoring the schneidberg hundreds from sponsoring thousands of gamars out there I don't know over the years hundreds of thousands of dollars sponsoring the Seaman dealer for coming it's a big school who else do we have who's next to you from Brooklyn you sound very familiar that's why I know you're from okay very nice subscribe for coming how long have you been with this year well all right I don't want to put you on the spot how long usually people know the exact date you know what I mean okay fine there's a few other people oh mandelbam yeah you have his brother he's incredible broker what's your name what's your first name again yes yes and you started the dive leaving no like right when he was nifter when he found a coma another deaf man here you go you see and so you picked it up for him yeah and you got stuck good good that's what I want to hear all right there's a few other people Ellie Rosen is here doesn't laugh every day he lives in the neighborhood second time here maybe right all right every day I just as I was walking in here Robin person came over to me gave me this uh beautiful set he's uh you know Harvest Farm it's called guidance from above it's questions that he answeredevsky and he pointed out to me that on the back there's a picture of mdy because mdy is uh one of the questions I went to ask you if we should open and eight minutes off Etc it's in there somewhere foreign a couple of emails I just began definitely with mdy at the beginning of condition I was quite inspired by you by your adser it gave me a push I can do it I still identify as a big Yeshiva but I needed to leave Carla a year and a half ago to go to work I felt my learning was not doing so well but now with your share I feel back in it thank you for doing me to share with Clarity and giving me physics joy and looking forward to the next seven and a half years at least Abba Hill winner as something like that Jackson New Jersey so stop like the to address this issue should we address over and over vinay Yeshiva most of us learned in Yeshiva and as we leave Yeshiva and go into the workforce we feel like we have to continue with the Yeshiva style and we try it and sometimes it doesn't really go well and then we fall it's like All or Nothing kind of thing either I'm going to learn be eon or I'm not going to learn at all and a lot of people I speak to say yeah I only learn Eon since I knew when was the last time you opened anymore 10 years ago but when I'm gonna open up the guitar again it's going to be Ian point is hop around as much as you can it's something you're not used to but as long as you learn one Allah it's a different world so you get used to it and based Hashem you find the Harvard for Eon also but this dafyami is a lifesaver there's a kid trying to do the good morning but he's still better than my next clip right afterwards here we go yeah I sound more like this guy right here this I took in Africa I might have shown it but I just the comparison this is uh I I took this because he was sewing clothes in the street without electric he had like a hand operated Singer sewing machine from the 20s awesome but together he's not saying it I need both you ready [Music] thank you just the way they live unbelievable okay this is her voice I was from Coliseum listen thank you okay so I was saying this was during our scene we stopped for a few minutes how long was it 10 15 minutes made phone calls we got about 30 people to rejoin and I'm saying Gary Shiro's got somebody to rejoin Hashem whoever you got to rejoin already had some kindness hi everybody I have just joined your family for the first time thanks to guarishi Rose's constant statuses and really loving it so far one thing I'm struggling with and I'm sure the 300 others that have just joined actually we gave out 2 100 Gamers for kildution over 1400 people joined and we only had one sponsor for the game Mars so the island could step it up if you want you know yesterday when I said about the uh don't don't try to put a dollar into our push anymore so somebody put a hundred dollar bill in so the joke was already worth it who knows about this guitar maybe somebody step it up put a couple hundred guitars in there one thing I'm stronger with and I'm sure the 300 is joined are also stringing with what on Earth is this ah all about here's the Bernhardt Manchester United Kingdom I don't know can't explain it but if I don't do it get all the emails and all the Jack garzy's Nails what's going on the whole deal get over here giant get over here oh I said this is huh the Memphis come come in come in this is the latest talks the the um the podcast the Yiddish podcast that says over here over 15 000 views in like three days whatever it was so it's uh even people don't speak Yiddish they watch the podcast and they just listen to that to the to the answers in English it's I I get and he learn Yiddish on the way and the guys that are watching and yeah they learn English on the way it's it's a win-win situation come Jack where are you gotta see you over here with the Barberton buffer the coil sponsored may we marry the crown Hashem the queen of the week I didn't know that you guys are coming was a surprise any other surprises I don't wanna you know I can't take that many surprising one day first first come over here her boys say this is Jack garzi he's the one that instituted the daily giving or the what is it called what do we call it mdy monthly daily giving is a different thing it's also a beautiful thing I didn't do anything about it Jack he told Jack told me once he said listen By Us by in the Syracuse unbelievable everybody gives what is it a dollar a day or something 26 100 a month no each person gives us a hundred dollars a month yeah it's supposed to be 26 yeah and one of the hundreds how do we get everybody an empty what to give 100 a month well advertising so anyways so then when you have a khasana with needy people you give them how much it's supposed to be 26 times a thousand is that forty nine thousand dollars that went upon it was twenty six thousand I got it I got no so twenty six thousand dollars a person Fair Wedding bam yeah but you have to be Syrian okay so so wait a minute so you tried it so you try to take that idea and bring it to the 10dy the people should give every month and this is we have how many people that are doing it now a lot how many three four hundred no are giving every month okay subscribe [Music] what's your name already foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] are the best gula parents because I was thinking now to myself people should donate a good morning yeah it's like 36 bucks and if you're from deal you do three 100 bucks to that 100 bucks to this if you weren't here when we were in deal we did a seven deal ours no each person in class was alert I said a story all the time now you'll tell me it's not 100 but we went in there we got to start learning went to the show and a guy said a guy got an Alia and in Misha Barak I gave five thousand dollars to this I don't remember the numbers anymore five thousand is 5000 I was like Wow fifteen thousand dollars then the next guy got Ravi and he goes fifty thousand dollars to this fifty thousand dollars to this and fifty thousand I was like Wow and then I got another Leah Maisha bad news our very dear friend comment from the five towns lost his daughter yesterday through your daughter I spoke to him on the phone terrible terrible tragedy second party in honor of a special guest today ah it isn't sound again [Music] who's nasano oh that's a different story okay we have a lot of special guests but okay whoever you are sorry for this wasn't gonna come from supporting the military I'm assuming it's and they're best friends okay fine we are holding on no that's yesterday's death today's death test um three lines from the bottom a man tells a woman here's the loaf of bread be my courage to me she says give it to the poor person she's making fun of him she says you know what give it to somebody else I don't need your condition I don't want your condition give it to a poor person says even if this is a poor person that constantly eats by her and now she's saving a meal it's also not a condition my time just like I have a gift to give him paranosis to give him food you have the same heels a male it's not a kid I just want to take this opportunity to thank somebody that was very very nice to me and my family when my mother Allah was sick it was the last weeks of her life it was Earth PESA she was only 49 years old and she was dying and when you have something like that in the house the whole everybody's upside down nobody's cooking nothing we didn't know we didn't even care about the food for peso it wasn't even on our the knock on the door and remote back and for Muncie came in with all the food for all the meals Meat and Fish and everything packed purple with all the desserts everything and turns out that he has in his backyard he has commercial ovens literally in the backyard some some of them an open place freezer he sits there for weeks making food tens of thousands of meals for many many people in monsies there's people out there posted Lifesavers Sadiq him who go out there and uh give food to that name the people who need I'm going to skip the story because uh we started a little late we have another story here but okay remind me a different time represent the Gambar is more interesting trust me oh God everybody here it is is the picture basically either if you look at rash you look at the first word in Russian buttons says Rashi here's a close-up of what it might look like 10 buttons or glass pieces so if you go back there and I understand what this is you're selling these necklaces of buttons of storms some sort I sorry it's a comes along a woman give me a necklace one of those on my law yeah even the law of me consciously if I give you one will you marry me on relay have only have a just give it to me so what does that mean just give it to me or whatever the exact lotion is give give it um who it's nothing she was just saying just do your job stop trying to to marry people here I came to buy a necklace give me a necklace give me the necklace how about yourself what are you doing something more similar story I will gather that because a guy was drinking wine at the bar I saw you it's awesome give me a cup of wine on my law yeah Heavenly love me consciously if I give you a cup of wine will you become production to me or merlay Nick the message here in Tel Aviv two people came into a bar they started schmoozing and a guy sitting at the Moon here's the whole story and he hears one of them saying where are you from from New York well I'm also from where it says lower your time also it turns out that they live in maps in the same building so the guy overheard this and he says it's unbelievable you come all the way towards Israel and and you meet Matt here in this mom says in the bartender it says you don't see the drunk It's a father and son okay uh okay you're getting it um [Music] the just saying this lotion it's Allah just give me I don't want to get married to you just give it to me she didn't say give it to me so I should get married just give me a cup of wine oh everybody said we have a good one here Amish check this out it's good art today good art you see the story and then we'll see in the good Mart all right uh give me two classes please if I give you will you marry me and then what happens do throw them to me okay it was right there so it's wrong okay every time I do every time I show one of these I just take a look at Mandy the Dark Cloud is going to be a look of disappointment I could have done better okay anyway you don't have to understand it but you have to you'll always remember the sugya so what happened was let's see inside the entirety I will gather the have a question to somebody that was cutting dates off a palm tree I saw you it comes a woman Malay surely tired to give me two dates or or My law if she didn't live in catches me okay deal I'll give you two but you have to get married to me just throw them to me she was just saying give me two days she didn't say I'm asking to marry you sometimes just points out that the gamar brings three different cases one is a case of just Hannah having a necklace that is a case of food and the other the the one in the bar is a case of drinking but in all it doesn't matter what kind of I know it is she was just saying just give it to me and show me stroll it's nothing have asked you whose day my what if she didn't say she didn't say the double lotion she just said one lotion give it to me give we're asking give me the drink she didn't say a double ocean in that case it's not clear that she's making fun in that case she means yes I accepted Malco I swear on the crown of the king no way there's no difference one twice she what she's what she's saying here is just give me your product um we said yesterday if somebody's in a kaddish with silk and here we'll just show it again we have the macroikas when it's worth 50. and he didn't say because you said here it is the 50. it's 50 50. it's worth 50 and he said it's 50 do you need a professional Assessor so Lloyd's Rita Shuma so it's very interesting is that only by shirai by Silk or it's by everything you and I read the gumbar and says you don't need chuma you don't need an appraisal S no it's by shirai that most people know the value of silk but let's say a diamond ring no one knows the value unless you're Mendy talking about Mendy unless you're a diamond dealer you don't know what what how you know what it does you don't know you don't even know if it's a diamond or not so that Tyson says you do need Shuma and he explains and that's why we don't we're not macadas with rings that have valuable stones in them because you need a shroom on it and she can be glamored that she doesn't always are giving me a diamond ring or you're giving me what is it called the corner but it's better than that what's the other one called Don't We're not gonna talk about it because that'll knock knock huh CBD the one that's made in the lab even even the pros not that that you could tell the lab Stone okay what about a color the remote talks about the cow that covers her head completely so she's not glamor that's on anything so I mentioned yesterday the remote talks about that's why you asked to Adam is this worth a pruta yes like that she's so much that's on the fruit of it not that it's worth more but if she doesn't see anything this certain communities that's 100 you know you can't it's like a brick wall so we don't have to worry about Schumer in that case because he's not glamor Dyson or anything she doesn't see it there's a mindset I found the story frustrating slash uh interesting about her told his kala that he insists on giving her a silver ring because a piccabella you should be in college with silvery so she said she doesn't want to hear about it she think it's Kabbalah and you know leave it in Yeshiva but now they're getting married she needs a gold ring what's silver is she gonna walk around with silver absolutely not and that was their first big fight so they decided to go to songs now if I was back I'll take this guy put him over the table and start whacking him that's what I thought he's gonna do I was sure that I was gonna no looked at her he said listen it's a it's a good idea he's right you use uh use a silver use a silver ring now you Hassan you need to buy her a gold ring afterwards and he took out a checkbook and he wrote him a check for the Mount of the gold ring I would break this though whatever but that's that's just me I don't know has anybody else upset about the story what okay why can't you just be with that Kabbalah okay I'll pick her body should be nice to hear Kyle also I don't know I don't know it's another that's not Kabul that's that's not right that's an Italian so okay fine maybe it is does anybody hear about the couple of things and she probably thought it's white gold exactly okay so people are doing I got it okay fine say it's great until there's a big fight about it once it's a fight I don't know but if a person says I want to bring catch you with a hundred and all he gives her is one we said right this second then he just has to fulfill his tonight foreign it doesn't work I've never seen it I don't think they do it anymore the husband writes on a piece of paper or even on a a worthless piece of earthenware broken chart I have a picture English has nothing no value and we're talking about either octana or a narrow up to 12 or 12 and a half up to 12 and a half because now he's he's talking to the father bid comic conditionally your daughter that's what he writes on the uh piece of paper your daughter's been close to me another lost in between restlessly because that works the fathers yeah muscular observation he has a he has a general question how could you how could the husband write the star Holly dummy I started all the Stars this doesn't doesn't resemble a regular star when you buy something typically speaking the seller is the one the rights the documents and over here the husband writes your daughter the husband's the one writing it the purchaser so to speak the buyer is riding the star and not the seller omarova I'll tell you why it has to do with what the process is awesome that the person is selling from his field over and over the husband is the one that's acquiring it's dependent on the husband says wait a minute you purchase you're the buyer you buy a field with money says if so we have two in the county contradict each other is it the seller doing it or the buyer so let's just take the possible yakno shall be sold too again referring to the in other words we want to emphasize the seller versus the buyer we're going to get a little bit more into it my time according why are you doing something like that why are you changing a nakuda the nakudas instead of a uh changes the meaning of the word because it says and he's so he says you should also change the word that the kala is giving yourself also the the father of the girl he gives over his daughter to the husband it's more the in the kala's resource not the husband the bottom line is it's all good Cassius and there's a few hacks here so therefore we have to come to a conclusion said this over and have seen I said that when you buy a field the seller's the one that initiates someone shutting say also he said that when it comes to kadushan the husband does it it's not Apostle this we got we received oil information they try to find a Remus and the tires they said oh look it says it says but we knew this away before them it says by here's apostle this year Mio paraglama debates he says I bought the field from my cousin and this is who sold me the field so you see another post like that that it's the the seller that writes now over here he wrote to the father before we write it he said what was the lotion yeah and what is he right there even though it's not worth anything has no value of the paper is talking to the father your daughter isma whether she receives it for her father Bena or the father receives it you need the dance of the father why because he's not old enough if he wrote law law to the to the woman herself not to the father in other words we're talking about obageres a girl that's above 12 and a half she's doing it on her own what did you write not your daughter at you yourself Thinking Out Loud here this is um a lot of times people it happened to me here and I showed something called him like uh how do you say it in English like an agreement documentary letter of intent Loi very good so you you want to purchase a piece of real estate here so you have a deal with the guy and you write up a letter in 10. so as a public service announcement do not sign it do not sign it unless you have a lawyer because it's just as strong as just as powerful as the actual contract so you think oh it's on a napkin and just writing a couple of things and it locks you in come on fine because I once read also mice of the a guy in Rush I don't know the end of the story but the beginning was very cool guy Russia filled out one of those credit card application sheets and he raced a couple things he wrote he wrote If you cancel this you owe me a million dollars and the interest rate is minus uh one percent you owe me Interest I don't know what he did over there he changed he changed everything and he sent it back and he was approved and then he stopped paying his credit card so they try to cancel and says okay you owe me a million dollars so what are you talking about I wrote it he says yeah but we didn't read it we get millions of these he said oh but if I don't read it then you say oh you should have read every word what about you you're the company you also have to read it the end of the mice I don't know what happened I'm sure you didn't get anything but uh it was a good stick to begin with you're shaking your head as if like it's what he's not alive to tell us what happened Putin sent his guys out there that turns out it was Putin's credit card company in shama Israel okay fighter but I said make no so you have to be careful it says law you have to read what it says now wait a minute if if she is she's 13 14 years old how could her father be Michael Judah was the turrets you have to write a get with the intent of this woman so what happens if this guy he was getting engaged to a girl so he wrote a star star Everson Harry kudacris Lee and she broke the shadow she didn't like him she broke the shadow a week later he's engaged to another person he said ah I already have a star why should I go to the cipher here it says is that okay or not he wrote it for Leia and he's marrying Rahul the famous sir if you want to see it vyotsavaisa it says the two words together when you go out and we come in so there's a heck is between the two it's my Italian just by a get you need to have the in mind for that particular woman also you're right if she has the whole thing they have to share the same names or Dilma Hawaii is we should compare the different ways of kadushan how are you woman because just like when you mint the coin says the gamara you don't have to have intent for that woman you can take any money you want I provide the Stars so when you write up the star you don't have to have her intent came up with the conclusion well wasn't that part of the question that was part of the question do we say because oh I'll tell you well it's more than that over here at least we have a little bit of a trap a lot of shock and what it says how do you even know that you could use a star erosion how do you even know you could be a kind of a woman with a star you learn it out from money so once you learn it out I'm sorry from from UTC once you learn now from you she learned everything out from YouTube if we're learning the whole concept the whole concept of star we're learning from a guest so now continue learning everything from again don't try to be markish in honor of his uncle remember and by Greg Haber Brothers his family or belly all md1 everyone doing the dive he said we come out that you need to have the Shmo when you write the star it has to be for this particular woman so what if you did it but you never told her that you're about to be mcavister surprise let me first explain to you what their reasoning is then I'll explain to you my reason every time they do the civilian there's a heck is between get and conditions you just give her the get you surprise her every time and what's my reasons you need the dice of the person giving but I get the husband gives what is he giving he's giving her her Freedom he's giving her the get so she can be free he's the one that's giving is the woman she's giving herself to the husband so therefore you need her that's pain ain't crazy you can't write a star ever since that's what we're talking about a star that that creates the first stage of Arizona anybody anybody ever hear of starting soon okay so we'll go with zuba Suba it's a funny way to say it is name but over here it says that even if you're writing your star hey Russian you need that schneem it's not enough to have decipher to write it with the woman in mind you need the woman to know about it my love and that will be a cash on what we just said that you don't need her Das according to her papa hmm is correct yeah that says whoever he is that you don't need her dance and obviously do neither does I just put this in because of love over here you see that you need and get you need her Das because it needs to be for her and story sikhta is what we call today right she says tonight what's in its name usually it's about money what do you bring to the table you bring to the table sure no okay how much are you gonna give for your son the parents are talking and for your daughter this amount then the children went and they were engaged kanu then the children are kinda what the parents promised so this father says I'm going to give a car this father says I'm going to give an apartment and then the Hassan gives the ring to the kala and he's mcavisher now the Hassan Kalo they acquire a house and a car how do they acquire a house in a car there's no khalipin there's no star how does it work sister unbelievable thing oh this is what this is a situation where talking along we had by shimra in certain situations in life where there's an Amira there's something said and it's salad Stone you have to keep it so let's see Rashi inside bamira Deloitte Kenyon there's no Kenyan there's no Khalifa there's no star why Dover when the Hassan gives the cow the ring that finishes the whole thing why the bahayana because of this Hannah that their children are getting married the fathers are machna whatever they need me boys says Rashi that Adam cannot write a star they can't be Ibraham and say you know what ah they said it let's just put it in writing so we know what they said and let's do them a favor it's not a favor there's a big difference if this was said orally or verbally or it was written in a document because if it's a verbal then there's no acryas you you can't come after the real estate it's whatever he has if he doesn't have anything that's it for Fallon and then going to the Allah there's a whole yeah but if it's written then you could go after real estate the Hassan could come after this father-in-law it's happened many times but the big Shiloh could uh could a son be Michael's father could he be Michael schwer do you need both him to be Michael it was given certain things were given a lot of people they say they talk big before and then after you know what forget it I said I'm gonna give you an apartment I was talking I just wanted to get married now what you want to get divorced well you're going to stop talking to me no Fife could you be Michael can I be Michael okay now if this question sounds familiar how do you know they could do one of the three things to be calling a woman for Arison is bibia we had this question of Donald on the base is going to address that Mark pretends now that we never discussed this before Vietnam [Music] here's the password huh yeah exactly paragraph base this week's parishion so this woman who's a buula's bow she's mizano no I could have said that she said whatever however equality how did she become Asian which made her behave misena because she was mizana throughout he became her husband were you disappointed what ready said on the Talon base from a different word another limo why do I need a second Lima's bow it says I think the first this is two-step process first you give her a ring and then be hamash Malone that it's on its own it's also a kadish I have a bomb Castle what do you tell me that the only way B is quinoa is through kessef you need first law this is also a person it says hold on no it's this is that the positive let me just see oh no here it is okay [Music] yeah you see it here nairobs you have a naira who's a Pursuit that's the key word here she's a Sula [Music] um izan then it says it's a special Misa called skila versus hennik because any age assist in the world and Sovereign she's an Engaged naira who's absula she gets a different Misa that's the Gamora bam Kasha how in the world do you have a naira the subsular if she's engaged and the only way to get engaged is with kessef and then Bia since she's not absura and if there's no beer then she's not engaged she's not a naira how do you have a situation and she's absula what's the obvious answer a boy of course oh start three days in a row zombie start there's other ways to become cabbage she's she's a narrow I'm a Russell through start that's what that's digimore's answer I just thought it's very fascinating the malfunction explained why is it that a woman who's married if she's mizana and a naira murosa gets skila pee you know sort of explain that a woman who's married is very fearful of her husband she's gonna get caught this she has a certain pocket that lessens her English she gets a lesser eina skill is very severe he's sitting there from the very body without clothing throwing stones on it's a slow death but this naira maraza she thinks she she could go scott-free she's free she doesn't she doesn't know she hasn't seen her cussing in the years they live in different cities so you see from here is Miracle when he when he gives he takes into account that Tsar the person has when he doesn't have era it's unbelievable thing that's right I knew you're gonna say that I wasn't waiting for yeah exactly you get a lesson yeah um bully she should only give hennik he does really boiled if he gave K7 there's no left clumo it's nothing why because if you're gonna tell me that beer needs kessef so then what's kessef by itself if if Catherine needs to be a b and he's got it gets it each it can't be that kesev is on its own it doesn't do anything so Mela left so they try to tell about you um so it says in the process like this is considers all beer evenarka unnatural much like natural in terms of Allah but now it's a little bit it's a trick because in terms of Allah it's it's beer but in terms of Sula baby she's still absula foreign it's considered ubala but she's still absula um we're going to see in the second webinar born on whether or not but her stranger if his Bish Lake dark is considered that she's still absula I have a bow if the bow is everybody agrees she is and then the question is how do you have such a situation if you don't have such a situation then we're going back all the way to the beginning you don't need bula's bow he learned from obala Mahi what's the Sanyo yeah I haven't engaged naira ten men were biology what does that means she's considered she's considered a naira absolo Harris after one she's not considered absula anymore even though they all get is considered regulations they all get cynic so according to everybody though and now we're so young according to everybody this read me in tanakama will agree that by the husband he makes her a Bula all right your shot you tell me that you try to tell me that's how she remained the absula is not true because if she was nive out to her husband because you need cassav and Bia then she's not absula even if she's never foreign because she never had relations with her husband because the condition was in the star s the star all you need in order to divorce a woman is a star is a get so too but all you need is from a different right today we came with a new password foreign [Music] basically a cleaning lady but it's not true because at the end of the day there is uh an aspect of marriage in the summer of Rio you could be me either to your son you yourself could marry her so I don't have to have a mean or maybe that's my own little thing that's thinking here so I need to tell you that she's not nicknam why because you might think you can learn around from a regular events you can't be kind of recessive we said if you give recessive it's called mimers only the rabbana but a real Kingdom in the right says to purchase her with money and purchase or make her your ship or your um through money and it is three of them she can't marry anybody else until they decide what to do foreign we go to 105 805. oh so I could go now for five minutes over Dayton okay let's just finish this you're right okay I got to talk to you guys about uh if this year is officially ending we should officially end it at 805 or start at 7 10. we gotta we gotta get a extra five minutes here you say the same thing because you guys you guys okay if you're gonna give if you're gonna give we're talking about a she's a Jewish slave you if you decide to give her over to your son and then it says she started out not such a good not on the right foot she's not a real wife she was like she's a cleaning lady married the cleaning lady and then he decides to marry his second wife so the third says you can't treat it differently you have to keep on giving her what you're looking to give her but since the tourist is the word just like a regular wife is one of them I would think that's why you could be kind of a real baby commercial hold on should we just let's just do one more line how does he learn this I have a wonderful day [Music]