Daf Yomi Kiddushin Daf 79 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning welcome we are still here in Chicago and we will say and start off with a cap everybody together Capal me for [Music] all those who were kidnapped and captured should come back like that Soldier came back today B we should hear more and more and no more fear from the enemy all over the world so we'll start off with a couple of emails here let's see my husband recently started watching T anytime my young husband has a chronic illness should have which makes it hard for him to concentrate and read the shear is the best thing that happened to him the visual aids make it much so much easier for him to understand and they make the she so interesting he calls me over to see what you show he really enjoys the humor and the shear in general it makes him feel part of something bigger it makes our family proud that he's able to learn mayem B you and your family with G thank youz hilly deell my life I'll never forget the day I started learning with you is this the same B that wrote earlier somebody else I believe every single day when I come home from Yesa at Night My highlight is to learn even more T but this T is way different because I'm learning with it withi imagine a 16-year- old yes gets home very late from Yesa is very tired but no matter how late I get home from Yesa won't stop me from learning with Hil hopefully he'll make it this sh markad that's a first we all feel the excitement forgetting the SC K starting Bama I'm personally looking forward because I'll be making my first when I complete B my roller coaster ride started with B he calls it roller coaster ride I call it a what is it called Ferris wheel cuz no matter where you get on you get off at the same place it doesn't matter if you get on on bras you get off at bras you get on on babama you get off at bakama it's the same sh for everybody I think that's what he meant but it could be a roller coaster right I guess this morning you mention regarding the mat of what's going on around the world especially your own backyards how we need to be proactive and do what we can to keep us safe I like to inform to our fellow mdy that I created a website to help people in New York city and state New York State and New York City many other states to obtain a pistol permit to have means to protect themselves it's interesting because just today they announced that g g imagine they got 20 guys with weapons and they have a whatever it's called something like a a group that's ready in case of emergency so you got to take you got to take um you have to do statas we fortunately witness what happened being that we have uh we have a permanent Target in our backs blood globally are waiting for the opportunity we must be prepared with and getting trained along with also as a side note people told me here in Chicago people that in a million years wouldn't even think of getting a gun not only are they getting their wives are pushing them to get and it's interesting my wife came over to me today and she says I want to go learn how to shoot like it's crazy that's the maive that my wife and my daughter are both separately told me the same thing 22 huh every Jew 22 every Jew 22 okay we live in the USA we have kind but what's scary is it's so easy to get a gun here it's very easy for them to get and they don't have a issue using it and and and doing what they call a Mitzvah that's what's scary that affords us the right to own a fire for selfdefense unfortunately blue states do everything in the power okay the website that he created is complete guides for New York City New Jersey many other states plus many more articles gear towards the yish community it's 2A 613c 2A stands for Second Amendment 2A two the the the number 2A the number 613c feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions concerns your if you're wondering are oldest urum in the world do they they all look like here in Chicago we have a bad but this is the mothership just yesterday I counted 30 people [Music] here okay the question was asked asked what will we said be just like the everyone had their own unique taste the same will be with the everyone hear his own shm I'm not sure if you consider this a kiss from hasem but during the later part the latter part of today's Shear I started to dremel start falling asleep and just as my eyes were closing I heard you call out hey are you guys falling asleep on me for a moment I thought I was watching on Zoom you see my eyes closing but then I realized you were referring to those attending live in Chicago this is to say I was jolted awake for the rest of the year keep teaching inspiring waking us up looking forward to spining shs to you and a few hundred other MD wires Dr mayor wickler well I looked around the room and I saw the was their eyes are it was one of those suas you know what I'm saying sometimes we fall into some suas that are not my father is 84 years old joined re is being now he's very into theum he lives in Brooklyn it's hard for him to come to the shabas however we're making a for Brooklyn shabas I was wondering if Ellie's ever in Brooklyn if you come by to say Lord my father would be a big green said your father a ma I most likely won't be able to make it unfortunately but a tremendous ma grab your tickets now there's only two rooms left no no no maybe there's a zero after that or maybe two who knows no go your rooms B you don't want to be on the seventh floor I know people I know a bunch of people that are 100% coming they still didn't book rooms it's crazy the the raffle is going to be tomorrow and you know that all money goes straight TOA so whether you win or not it's a win so far there's 202 entries so it's three three full rooms there three couples out of 200 entries not so bad tomorrow B I'll announce it in I believe um there's a few things I was supposed to mention here oh the C people were asking about the I even got an email I don't think I read it um the C is taking place you could come just for the C I don't know what the price is the something I don't know somewhere around $100 I think under $100 maybe and you go to mdy shascom and you go to the I think it should be on now if not well by the time this year comes out tomorrow hopefully mds.com for tickets to the actual shabas for tickets for the S I don't know if I said this correctly because only a few people took advantage of this yesterday save 300 sa A3000 is the promotion code save 300 that's it okay we'll see everybody there it's going to be tremendous theing families L worldwide the last day Natalie and Victor in honor of and that come from supporting here we go we're holding a br a person had a younger daughter and he sent a agent to go find the husband decided to circumvent the agent and he went himself the father went himself as mades the daughter and of course who went first if he's the one that went first he was able to find the for his daughter so his K is good and Rashi sticks in on Auda here that the that he gave to that sh is why does have to say that I mean if his K is good Kad he's first so don't think that maybe he put this guy on reserve he's trying to see what the is going to accomplish maybe he'll get a the top guy in a Yesa and then whatever sh he got for his daughter just tell him go jump in the lake no you should know okay and if was first then Bo we have a little bit of a time for gmak back to the gmak days here goes maybe we'll put on some volume here goes with some gmak volume goes now the ising in is closing [Music] in the Bulls game think I don't forget these things yeah somebody just offered me tickets to the Bulls game front row somebody my own partner has two you seats there maybe I should have said because now you're going to go to him and say no I said I I can't do it you know so feel pictures and I'll send my kids but I can't I can't really do it okay back in the day Benny Benny the oh which reminds me also so Benny the Bull came to my he had a had a throat problem so my said do you remember my son-in-law he did this and this to you he says no he he didn't remember I asked him exactly's he's retired already that's what he claims I said how do you know was betting the bull let make I'm Bing the ball like do you know he gave some okay whoever's new to the she has no idea what I'm talking about kid once I was on TV because I started out with Benny the Bull I didn't start up I I gave him back says the last words on the you don't know who first the father of the both must give a gap because we don't know who first and if they would want since the could possibly be in both so one gives a get and one could get married now let me hold on a second this guy that's getting married does he have to give another kushan yes why because if he was originally married the first time then second marri you mean if he was the second guy he's the second not if he's the first guy if he's the second guy and the first guy was the real kadan so his kadan was nothing and if this first guy gave a get and he wants to marry he's going to have to redo the kushan correct let me ask you another question Mr you're answering everything lately what is a case where one cannot give a get and the other get married they can't you can't do it what's a good case interesting I hear more that's a still so over here on the side says two brothers or brother father CRA him okay very good I hear saying let's think a second because if he's really he's the first guy was really engaged or married and he gave a get then she would be a divorce same identical case just a little bit different instead of the father sending agent it's the woman herself sent the agent and she went and she's mades herself now again the same exact thing if she was first she gets the that she picked if the agent was first and if we don't know who's first they both give a divorce and if they would like because no it bothered me in the beginning k would seem like that you go right into it no you have to do K fine says need both cases where the father sends an agent and the woman sends agent when the father sends the father be more careful and make sure that there's good and maybe that's what he wanted he wanted a better husband for the wife maybe she's not so familiar with the way works maybe she wasn't she didn't really want to get engaged to this guy was more like uh you know he's in the wings so to speak they he thought he's getting engaged she put him on reserve in case her father doesn't come up with something the doesn't come up with something better this is the guy but she she still doesn't know not would only say the case of the woman herself a woman is very careful who she marries she's going to marry somebody proper she wants she wants the best guy and she doesn't want the to get her husband [Music] maybe the father doesn't care as much oh yeah Marry Her Off interesting stuff well we saw the other day when was it maybe more than that we saw the number of times the father cares about the money has has side to side benefits and more and he doesn't do a condition maybe he shouldn't his K shouldn't be anything at all we need both cases okay it so I'm starting really uh very familiar Su we've done this a number of times nothing really new here but it's a good it's good the idea of how do we view a person and we had these cases very familiar cases I remind a case about a Mikvah that you put a CLE in a Mikvah and you found out later that it was missing water but you checked it before these kind of cases same same idea three different cases so one of them is our case the father was on a trip comes home and he says you're not going to believe it I found the best guy in the world for you so and so and she's like what are you talking about I forgot to tell you that just yesterday I found a guy for myself and I'm a Kala and she did her own GIS and turns out that she is more than 12 and a half years old there's a guy sitting in a train minding his own business another fellow comes over to him and says you have the time doesn't answer him goes a few I understand I'm asking you what time why do you answer me he says listen I know the trick you ask me what time it is I'm going to tell you what time then you're going to say and what's your name and where you from this city happens to be that I have a daughter you have a son and try to make a and they're going to get engage no so what's the problem I don't want my son to be engaged to to a girl whose father doesn't have a watch plain and simple like that yeah he's on the way he's mades he gets engaged to a person that has a watch he finds a for his daughter let me show you just this thing this is an updated chart of is somebody who's up until 12 years old that of course the father has the right to marry off air is from 12 to approximately 12 and a half the most that could go is to 12 and a half Andes is what's going on with her head okay I see is 12 and2 forever once she's a bear she's in her own domain her father cannot marry her off so now we have a question when exactly did the father try to marry off if she was a biges then garnished it's nothing whatever the father did is zero he has no right to marry her off of course she's engaged to to the guy she got engaged to so let's look at what we have right in front of us we go by right now right now she's an adult she's in her own domain she's engaged to her guy not to the father's guy we must be concerned that perhaps the father's engagement worked now Rashi says it's really on a little bit later but we could say it here because I don't want to forget Rashi says that the father made the engagement first and afterwards his daughter first him then her and not the other way around and basically I believe it has to do with what T says over here I'm I'm just going to say it not explain it I don't expect anybody to really get into it but if you want to look at the top to to says that there's a concept called that a woman has that she's single but in this case that she's not single because either the father got her a or she got herself a so either way she's not she doesn't have but that only works as tus and that's what I think what tus means it only works if the father's first and she's second but if she's first and the father is second it's possible both of them didn't work it's possible she was not a she was under the father's domain at that point and it's possible that the father didn't work either because she was already bear at that time so it could be she's still a p that's why Rashi seems to say the father went first I'm just explaining why Rashi says the father went first and she went second because I struggled to understand that rash he doesn't really explain he just says the father went first and she went second that's the okay again if you didn't understand what I said it doesn't make a difference here I'm just I just B I didn't I didn't I wasn't planning on really saying it I'm just throwing it out there says gor so we have a says let's look at what we have right now and we're going to have to understand this a little bit better we're going to have to tighten this up says we have a suff both of them might have made a k she needs a divorce in both says what are we talking about if you're talking about on this chart over here we're talking about that she's between 12 and 12 and a half and basically she's in the domain of the father unless she has se him that she's aeras is gonna say but it doesn't matter right now she's AAS it's possible that this hour right now she became a Bas but when her father got her engaged she was not a bearis there's no reason to believe we're going to go further and you're going to see what I'm talking about so must be that she's 12 and a half already that is also a problem why would say that perhaps the father if it's already after she's 12 and a half then of course she's the one that wins nothing the father has nothing to do with it on the very final day of the six months she's 12 and a half that final day she's she's not a bugar she's not a nairo we have no idea what she is she's there's no that she's a nairo because that day she's going to become a no matter what no she because right before that she was Ina so we're not going to invoke any now and it could go either either direction say we have to be for the father's we have to be for the or the and that's it says but we go with what we have right in front of us what do we have in front of us a girl who's an adult ofas and therefore we say that in the morning she was also a bearis the father who did the K in the morning it's too bad she was already out of his domain because she's if she's Aeris in the evening she's Aeris in the morning it's very possible that she became aeras only later on that day just because you saw her right now as a doesn't mean that in the morning she was a and the obvious is going to ask questions from other places in ch such as a mik such as what we find now does it go backwards or not what we see now does it mean that that's the backing up or what we see now it just happened this minute and just because he found the situation now doesn't mean that that situation existed yesterday as well or in the morning what's the difference according to from the famous story of a it's not you measured a Mikvah and it had 40 was 100% ker and then later on a month later you went and you measured it again and you found that it's not 40 saw anything any CLE that was Tom and you put it into the mik to be the CLE and then you went ahead and you baked bread or whatever with that CLE you're going to have to say that everything you baked in that CLE retroactively there's a concept in anytime you have a suff of T you don't know if it's Tom or not so depends if you're in a private domain if you're in a public domain that's the says we don't have a suff here I don't care if it's a suff I don't care if it's it's not considered a suff I don't care this should be a suff should be why because I have a Mikvah right now that's missing water it's a puzzle of Mikvah and every CLE that went in right now this moment remains T so as far as I know this mikah is T I look at the situation right now and right now it's Tom so all the Cale I put in it the last week and a half are Tom we last time was measured all the way to the last time it was measured the month the last time I measured is measured great I don't know when it became maybe a moment afterwards right now the bottom line is it'ser I'm going to take the situation of now right now I'm going to go all the way backwards so right now I have a woman who's a and let's go all the way back why does say that perhaps in the morning she was a naira I take the situation right now what does she now bearis let's go backwards and say that she was a bearis in the morning just like says is just going through the motions now as in as asking the the re but what do you mean there there's a on this CLE this CLE was was and it has that it's and you're trying to say it's but right now we don't have a Mikvah to prove you that that it's that it's St the mik that we have is no good so the on the remains you measure the and theik waser so it should had it should have that it's not missing any water but right now it is missing so over here also say right now she's a bear so at then you don't have but you'll say but wait a minute so what if she's a bearis but maybe she became a bearis this minute maybe the Mikvah became the second what is the difference between AAR and a mikah there is a difference we have two things going wrong for us by mikah the CLE and the Mikvah the Mikvah is missing water and the CLE is Tom you have no right you have no have no on the CLE that it's t and and the fact is right now the m is missing water and over here we only have one thing going wrong for us right now we have a woman who's a beer it's only one problem there's a b that was called into the rash's office R said you have to leave Yesa why because you come late to D SOA says you familiar with that R right we all you never had a like that so the tell he tells he says what's worse coming late to DAV you're talking lar says of course talking lar so how can be throwing all these other guys he says because you also talk you have two things going for you you talk you come they only have F another case another case what's the case the case is it's it's a idea if you live in the time of we have to keep that's very annoying so to speak every time you you pop a battle of Castell what was that battle he gave me 2009 2009 cast castelle yeah he held it all those years in his thing and he gave it to me and he's coming for shabas so every time you open up a battle of you have a good guess you open up a battle of wine he's going to start pouring out checking it's a liter how much 2% and you put in a little cup and you're going to give it to the so you do is very simple you take a bottle of wine and you put on the side and you write with a magic marker you write on it for the this is a battle for the okay now every time you drink wine you don't have to physically take truma all you need to do is say this battle that I'm pouring for myself on shabas table I'm going to drink the whole thing the 2% of truma that I need to take is in that battle that I wrot with the magic marker Co on it and that's what I do month after after month after month what happens that happened to me with my bottle of Castell that I bought the 2,000 what year was it Mo moandy was with me it happened to me a number of times I bought in a restaurant I think it was 2004 I don't even remember a magnum my eyes I saw a magnum in the restaurant he says but if it's spoiled you get your money back I just said the I went home opened it up that chabas and it was very spoiled and he gave me my money back but it took a long time time it was he had we had to eat by the restaurant over and over he wouldn't give me money back but that's what happened rabi the bottle that had a magic marker on it was spoiled became vinegar so what do we do all these bottles of wine that I that I I drink freely and that I'm drinking right now what's with the truma that's M what happened there says theor what's the difference between a small little battle that you put on the side he kept on saying there's a little Trum in that battle of wine a little Trum and all of a sudden you find out that it's vinegar brings three days going back from when I found that it's vinegar we'll say it's certainly vinegar or perhaps R says mean three days from the last time that I looked at that battle and it was good so three days are for sure good good and everything else is not good the bottom line is that's that's what um what's that sorry everything is a sorry I skipped and we have a contradiction here when we when it comes to Mikvah we say that it's missing everything it's missing right now and even it's not even a suff everything is T and all of a sudden when it comes to this bottle of wine you're not sure it's a little bit of a suff you have to take truma again but you can't use this wine this might be truma but you still need to take more truma why is it a suff because it goes even in the case of aik there's no difference because also hold a it's not a we said that everything that was done in this Mikvah is 100% T because we go like what what it is right now right now it's missing water so everything that was done in it is that what like we said before over here according to oh this is very interesting let's go back to the chart for a second so how come over here he doesn't say Tom he says means it's it's a suff it remains a suff why so Rashi says how do we know the whole idea of anybody remember how do we know it where do we learn it from secludes herself and and she's only a but we say that she's T the calls her it's a different type of T but she's a t so we know the idea of says says rash but that's by and it's very obvious after the husband warned her and said don't seclude yourself and she went ahead and she so he say she's but we don't have a we don't have so that's why but according to you go backwards and you say that that whatever you did is not Trum as the so according to we should say we go backwards and we say everything that you did she's a big if right now she's a let's go backwards like and say that she was a before like R doesn't want to hold like ra is the it's different because you can say when it comes to the wine the wine has you have a bottle of wine that you're using on and it has a that wasn't fixed so you have a special on the bottle of wine it's not fixed and it's different than a woman say but but there that by the time you found it that that's when it became vinegar beforehand it wasn't vinegar and it was good truma but but the fact is right now it is it is vinegar what's the difference she's right here in front of you says says it's literally the same word for word that we had a minute ago say that she became maybe it became vinegar right now and a minute ago it wasn't says T say you have wine that's you have the bottle of wine I want to use on chabas that you didn't take truma from so it's and you have vinegar in front of you so you have two problems it's just like the Mikvah they have two problems you have the CLE that's similar to the wine that you want to use and you have the Mikvah that's similar to the to the to the vinegar that we have here when it comes to the woman there's only one negative going against her that she's a perhaps we go backwards another story what happened over here says of course we have to go to Rashi for this Rashi says the famous case of a guy that's he's in his death bed on his death bed and he gives away all his belongings so the is that if he gives everything away then he could say wait a minute I didn't want to give it away I didn't realize that I'm going to be healthy again every time we say I have to say this depends what when it is and how far apart I say this there's a on his bed and I wanted to say B for a certain person that comes to the share but he's not here today he would appreciate it more than anybody this guy was a real Miser real compon so he's on his that Mish minutes before he dies and he says is my wife here he say yes she's here the k kids yeah son-in-law yeah so why are the lights on in the kitchen and then I was thinking to myself that's that's us basically because this is okay he's day before but we also our life is this short m is this short yesterday was our wedding no when did we get married a week ago how long ago it's not even a week feels like that we're going quick but we sit and we we we talk about the whole day like why is this and why that and this scratch and this it's all it's all wise the light on in the kitchen that's what he had this is what this guy's worried about the minute before he dies okay him we have a here this guy says you know why I gave you every single thing that I own cuz I thought I was dying and they say you're you're a liar you were strong like an ax you're running you're on the basketball court and you're in a good mood and you gave me all your stuff the I said it doesn't make any sense why you give you all my stuff I thought I'm dying but you weren't dying you weren't in a hospital bed you weren't in oxygen go prove it so basically we have a very similar to what we had up until now that what who wins the guy that gave away all his belongings he wins he doesn't need to bring any there's an oxygen and they can't prove it unless they could show that he was middle of a basketball game so it seems like that's like similar to what we had now that right now what is he right now right now he's he's up and and around he wouldn't give it away depends in right now he's a forget what I said a second ago if he's healthy right now then he has to bring a that and Depends you look at him right now if he's healthy he has to prove that he and if he's they have to prove that he was healthy so so this is like RAV why because RAV says we look at what he what she is now right now she's a bearis then we go backwards so we look at right now if right now he is a bar then then he has to bring the right in other words if he's a then he then they have to bring it right so you look at what he is right now what is he now what is she now she's a she's a bearis so we say she's a bearis he's a bar he's a bar he's a he's if he's a then then he gets his money back but it goes based on what he is right now says I don't know it's a suff and whatever he's right now doesn't matter he has to we have a suff what to do no different case why I know because who had a kazak on all these belongings the donor the guy that gave it away so he has aak so this this is where we said this before not yesterday before that today this day this bis what what it's the last day of her nus then there's no at all says rash right it's you can't say she's a nir you can't say she's she has nothing because this the day it's supposed to switch so what is it or in the morning there is no time you know you remind me of story there's uh let me see if I could get it right because he just reminded me they asked the bris of what time of the day does it switch so that what time of the day does a boy become a God he says it's in the day time why because the first Miss says must says why does he start so he said what do you mean why you start because that's when you become a GLE at night but because thear asked the question why do you bring it is it right that it doesn't come at night it comes in the morning that's why the okay anyways I don't know when it comes we don't know when it comes the point is that that's the whole point if I knew when it came then we wouldn't have the whole gamar the point is she is a bugar in the evenning that that is given she's AAR the whole iser the whole day is because it's supposed to happen so she can't say well I have a the father can't say well you have she's because her whole life she was because it's supposed to happen today 12 and a half is the deadline and she can't say that she's 100% bigas because so therefore we have zero throw all the out the window that's what the is saying me there's no's no on this body not for not for and says I say I could in other words there's no connection between this story and the between ra and when it comes toas why the whole world every human being has that he's healthy the the guy that gave away his stuff he's trying to take him out of a of the norm of human beings most human beings 99% of human beings are healthy I don't know if it's 99 whatever the number is but human beings have aak until they get sick human beings are born healthy 99% of the time I've heard of crazy stories of babies born with de which I don't understand how it even happens it's possible okay but a human being is born healthy until further notice so you have aak so he's claiming he a prove it [Music] over here she's not trying to take herself out of oral what about basically what we discussed her father was and she's also herself turns out that she's already 12 and a half one says let's go she's aeras who says that r there another that says the exact same words and says we should be for both that sounds like no it's no no you're not forced why when she denies it and she says I became a bearis yesterday so the father has no say at all she's saying what are you talking about I was ready she's not denying it so now we have a suff is the Father's or not so it's a suff so each Bri is talking about a different case as says the if that's the case you're gon say so says maybe maybe also and ra is talking about the reason why R says that we believe her and she's AAR because she she denies her father's claim she says that was yesterday says the gor's story it can't be why a person the story came to him father daughter and he said you go you know who's engaged the daughter is right the daughter we go with the daughter's not with the father's like says is very upset so if we stop right here what do you see that there's a real it wasn't it wasn't they're really arguing in real life what was what was upset about unbelievable there's a there was a joke when I was a kid it's not so funny but I'm not going to say the I all there's a certain city that a lot of people make fun of the people there say they're all fies and not not you know so and that City it happens to be that every time like there's like a crane or a cement truck you'll always see like 10 people people staring like this you know like they're always so the joke was why is this city why are this so like weak up here in the head because when was giving out the brains there was an ambulance call and they all came to to to steer they didn't pick up their brains that's what he's saying over here it's very this is where they got the joke from says says the whole world got a small portion of brains he this oh he got a extra large portion so what he he has the right to go with RAV and by the way RAV is M because RAV says you don't need a divorce from the first one we have a big suff here it's not a r says not a suff says suff get divorce from both rap says ignore the father's I don't care that he accept the we're going to go with the girl that's a m says what are you doing interesting just want to point this out I did a search and I found this exact name and it says also that said a like I could make him fly with my like I just blow at him and blow him away and it's I don't know for for a fact I didn't see anybody connecting the two but maybe he was still upset at him about this case over here that's why I use over there anyway says there was no between ra like you wanted to suggest so why was upset maybe the story over there was that the girl denied the father and she said I was aaras yesterday when you accepted K on my behalf I was already an adult and and according to everybody we listen listen to her and there's no that case they argued even in a case where she doesn't deny anything she's quiet and R says even though she's quiet it's not even a suff she wins that is like but no I like I didn't look this up but it must be that Rashi didn't write this Rashi wrote the G I don't think that Rashi would write about himself oh I say that the is like RAV and by the way the is like RAV you know it just to me it would seem like a later generation stuck that in after rashim maybe his son I think continued the Gar so maybe that's how it was but says simple a person that everybody knew that he had the right he did the check beforehand he leaves to different country comes back years later sh here he is with with a wife children he left with a with a wife he comes back with 10 kids remember I left with a woman I'm telling you right now that's her then was already checked that she had good everything is good that's what's the question are these kids good you don't have to everything is good you don't have to check anything oh because of the continuation they maybe so what if she dies would you say the same thing what if she dies he comes with children says these are great children they have great that's a better question okay so you got to start off somewhere you gota you gota you got to set it up you got to set it up yeah you gotta you got to go you got to go in order if if there's no issues they did leave it's a little bit of an issue I don't remember what she looks like I I I didn't have pictures in those days I don't have a to hood I don't have a license I don't know her hair is gray now it's a little the mat is a little different okay couple extra pounds you know what I'm say I don't know right now you're you're telling me I'm supposed to believe you supposed to believe this is your wife and these are kids okay great and when you don't have a wife she dies and these are kids why can't I believe you on that she died and these are children then he does have to bring proof that these are her children you don't have to worry who the mothers on the on the kids oh now he didn't leave with a woman he went away and he comes he says I married a woman in this is her these are children then all he has to do is prove the woman's what about the children maybe he adopted a bunch of kids is going to explain because these kids are very connected to her you see they're her kids although that's not 100% absolute because maybe she adopted them I don't know what but the woman that I married in is not alive anymore but these are children then you have to bring two r on the mother and on the children this is only talking about little children that are very attached to the mother like a typical child is attached to his mother and says that if a person says brings a a person says I marry this woman I have to bring a on the woman but I don't have to bring a on the son but I have to bring a for the older kids because the older kids there's no r that they're connected to this woman maybe they're pretending when he has one wife if they come there's two women involved and one of them died maybe then he has to a on both why over here just because they these children are connected says rash this woman is not a RI why because they were used to this wife he had two wives one died now it's very possible that these babies these children are attached to this stepmother it's not the real mother and therefore you have to bring a even on the whether or not they have boai have a wonderful day