Daf Yomi Kiddushin Daf 59 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning we're in middle of a terrible terrible tragedy the middle of a terrible terrible war and um based on upak from in our neighborhood I am attending to a family affair now in an undisclosed location Prem everything will go back to normal and the regular programming of the sh will go back to normal so for now I just would like to say of all those who need they say there's over 2500 terrible terrible injuries and all sorts of things I want to say Capital the same capital for the those who were captured and are under very very hard [Music] circumstances [Music] today she sponsored all those who need and all th those who need to come home safely from their terrible situation in captivity the is sponsored by lock and families L New Jersey because the last day as that our family should be blessed with health for 120 and thank you for the sponsorship last day and thank you for the sponsorship family of the safety and success of our holy the second one I dedicate the share to my nephew who has been called to the front and to all the or bravely about to go into the war zone and to all of Cl Israel particularly those who are in peril Hashem should watch and protect all of us and you know my own nephew mayor Sim catsburg May Sim benad guy he's Mish on the front lines should watch over him and all of those youngsters all of our the of the month all the that come from supporting it's not only the it's the parents of theim they also need a lot of support and emotional support and and sleep they don't get to sleep much their minds wander and terrible news comes back and this one got injured and this one got killed and they say wow I hope I could hear from my son and it's very difficult to communicate as you know so everybody this thing should be over as fast as possible and we should all get back to the regular scheduling said don't forget few days we're going to be laning p is great great time to jump on the bag and wagon with everybody else don't forget we'll start talking about it don't forget that we're going to have a Shas of of all of C of all types of people don't forget to sign up for that I was starting a brand new peric which starts on on the bottom today's afternoon test talking about a not such a good situation where a person sends his friend to get him a there's a girl out there so and so I want you to give her kush for me and he went and he stole her so you think that maybe punished him he didn't do the right thing now he didn't use his friend's money he used his own money nevertheless he's a bad guy he heard about her through his friend his friend said I want to get engaged she's mes to the second one and we don't punish him it's not the nice thing to do you notice the Miss says the word inad of discusses that word tells a woman you are to me after 30 days here's the money here's the but it's going to apply the money I'm giving you today it's going to finish up after 30 days word but Rashi brings it and another person came along within the 30 dayses to the second person what is going to discuss so much so the second person that if she's the daughter of is who doesn't get to eat truma but the second guy is she gets to eat truma from now until after 30 days exactly what did he mean did he mean to say that it starts now ends there it's a t that to take it back what what exactly is going on is going to discuss we don't know what he meant he mean that the should be today and therefore when the second guy comes along it's zero for the second guy or when he said from now then he took it back and he said later so maybe he wants to be later let's see the if she's trying to eat Trum now she can't because we don't know who she's engaged to she engaged to the first and the second one says now I just want to tell you a story similar but in the reverse there was a guy in B who didn't like a certain fellow in he decided to take revenge and he pulled off a prank he told him listen I have a great for you are you interested she's about she comes from a wealthy family all the mil guy says short she says okay go meet her she's in this in this uh building this in this apartment 8:00 she goes knocks on the door the father opens up and he says I'm here for the the father says and then the father say oh yeah the the father realized that this poor guy was pranked a from Yesa so to make him feel better he said okay fine my daughter's just getting ready goes tells his daughter listen do this guy favor should know not to maybe you'll sit and talk to him for for 10 minutes pretend it's and then whatever and then it turned out that they got married a so this Shyer the the initial guy the prankster he comes and he knocks on the door he says listen I'm the I deserve so um I think it makes sense said take the guy throw him down a flight of stairs don't worry about the okay says he was sent to make a k and instead of making he gets engaged himself says whatever happened happen Ramos this is a terrible thing to do it's Ramos it's cheating he didn't act in good faith he was told to be M he's M himself the ra calls him but it works works it says in he went it's extra word it should say for himself but say that it says what does mean he went he went on a path of cheating of of being theight deceitful not not being n in the right way says the so if you notice this is vers a lot of our the whole is full of question answer question answer it's a it's a way it's a certain um it's a way of teaching for instance just telling you the reason why it says because this and that it's a question why does it say over here learn if you tell go be a woman for me from this and this place anyone a different place but it says over there why didn't say the word in both places or in both places say so is somebody that goes special for you here let's not forget to show this um cartoon it's slide one that Yoshi did basically here's that's a Rami he's a frog and uh he's kades for the other guy mades for himself says if I think somebody who goes special for you you asked him you paid him whatever it is you hired him to go be your agent and Casual I rely on you I figure that if I hire you're going to do what I ask to do my friend I don't trust you that much you're my friend you're going there anyway okay once you're there uh pick me up three oranges and a wife oh the wife didn't work out so well okay not a big deal and over there my friend why is it when I tell my friend another place he's not going to work hard to be in this place place but when I hire somebody so I'm just giving you an idea where she might be no it's not just an idea where she might be I want you in this place not in that place why like we said this far back there this place I know I have a lot of friends they're going to stick up for me say nice things in the over there who knows maybe the doesn't like you so much in that place and he'll say bad things about you says some amazing Stories went person he went toades a woman for his son ah you don't really tell your father to do something like that okay whatever he didn't really make okay so what happened was sorry I skipped here so let's say again he went a woman for son when he got there he said oh you know what maybe she's a good for myself a father did that to son not a father do something like that he went in good faith the one for his for son she didn't want she no no no I want you you're a bigger God I want you says very good but nevertheless he should have come back home and said listen son have bad news she doesn't want you but she wants me isn't there a concept called you have to be clean you can't have people say things about you now you're going to think that I'm a GH I'm a ram I want you to know she wasn't willing to marry you and then go back says the gar just recently M recently I was there was a line of people and they were waiting for one thing and I knew that to the right there was no line it was for something else so I went there and I saw somebody pointing at me and like you know saying something to his wife so I got out of lot I went over to I said no I don't want you to think that I skipped the line that over there is for this you're probably on this line for that he goes yeah yeah I didn't okay sorry say there's a concept of you don't want people to say things about you they're say going to say oh he's a bad guy he stole a wife no he didn't steal the wife she didn't want to marry you says the reason why I didn't tell him she such a good great catch maybe by the time he goes and tells his son and gets back it's going to be too late very interesting says gave money to ra R the famous RAV you're going there anyways please pick up a piece of property for me could you please purchase this property so went and bought it for himself you can see that's not the right thing to do if somebody wants something ask you to do it and you do it for yourself it works it's after the fact you're still a Rite you're a GH you're you're a liar says that that plot of property was on a owned by the mafia bad guys hard people to deal with they wouldn't sell it anyways to he has special pull and he knew them well then that's something different says but nevertheless he should have gone back and said listen they don't want to sell to you the tough guys but they'll sell to me is it okay do you mind same maybe someone come and wanted to purchase a piece of property came underneath and bought it it happens today somebody wants to buy a house in Lakewood this is the prize the guy comes underneath and buys it and he went through [Music] would like to all those who are in danger and all those who got injured maybe perhaps today test start this uh initiative I don't know how to do it exactly I have to do some homework but today we could do the first day if it doesn't work out tomorrow we'll do it a different day but here's the question is this okay to go to R goes to and says Rabbi so and so Tred I tried to buy property he went and he stole the property for me is that okay is that lar what is he going to gain from it is it too late maybe it's not too late maybe even though he purchased the property he could give it to rev was what do you say so says over here this that it's AER to tell somebody hey you know so and so stole from me a lot of people think it's okay so and so is it G I have to tell the more people I tell the better so he says no it's not okay it's only okay to tell your rebi if you know that he could do something about it and he'll change that guy he'll by him talking to that guy the guy will give you back the money but it's time to tell people if it's not 100% FIS it's aome if you know that that'll help them you know that doing business with them you know they'll help you then it's okay [Music] also so went met you know he comes up to see the re when he comes let's ask him when he came up he bumped in to so oh this is he came up okay he's the one that stole the [Music] property you have a poor person who's trying to pick up a loaf of bread he's starving and then another guy comes and it like uh kids at Candy goes flying you go in you try to pick it up kid come you're at a baseball game in the out field all of a sudden a guy hits a home run take out your glove you're about to catch it it's going in and then all a sudden somebody comes in grabs it now according to rash those would be says no says da in a case of business but he there's no so in a baseball game I'm allowed to grab the ball right in front of you why cuz I can't get another ball you can't tell me oh go somewhere else and purchase a ball some this is this's one home run this game there's one PE that fell in offro by he there's no but when it's a business I'm trying to buy a piece of properties I can tell you listen go to go buy another piece of property so you you all know we have a great great to have rabber in our he it's like four people from me on the right side my right big big writes articles every week in learning for so he said that about 50 years ago he was trying to purchase a house in London for I think it was he said 15,000 today it's worth like one and a half million pounds and as he was about to buy it he was looking for Mor the way it works he made he said he made a deal with the guy nothing in right deal I'm going to buy it and then you go and you maybe it is something writing but the way I understood it wasn't it's not a solid deal and you go and you try to get a mortgage in between him getting a mortgage another fir guy offered another 500 pounds and try to take it from him so said to the guy hey like we're learning so the guy said he I'll back down but if the morage doesn't go through I get it he said fine I think that's the story I hope I didn't batch it up too much the point is that knew this idea of and went him and the guy had and the guy said okay you're right it's a great house I'll back down from it I didn't realize that you want it so what's if you do something like that you're a Russ oh I got you you yourself did that last year remember before y you went you bought a piece of property even though uh who was it that wanted it I didn't know that he wanted it I had no clue say so he tells him okay very good it's a great excuse you didn't know but you have to cough up the property give it to him can't sell there's an idea not to sell your first property that you purchase this such an idea it might be based on the we learned days before they there announcement so and so to so and so and this feel to this person oh if you remember in the end of we learned that it's not a good idea to get divorced from your that's what was meant for you same thing may be for piece of property that's your property what happens afterwards the second third properer third wife fifth wife that's something else first priority maybe it's based on that idea they shouldn't get rid of your first priority that's what they want you to have but I'm not trying to use this idea of gula whatever don't sell your first property in my advantage I'll give it to you as a gift by the way there was a m where a guy went to a certain Baba and he asked him about a beautiful mansion on the beach inia he says let me hear about the detail buy it not bu it yeah it has a beautiful view and has so many bedrooms and it's just beautiful everything doesn't need any work it's just perfect the price the guy's giving to me for crazy crazy price so the Bible said no absolutely not not in nelia you don't buy nelia you have to look for something else the guy finds out later that it was sold and who was it sold to who sold to the Baba okay I don't know then the story so they went through said I have no idea what theend the story is says so I'll give it as a gift I'm not going to sell [Music] them doesn't want a gift and listen to this didn't want this piece of lamb because he was afraid of neither of them went to the into the property and at the end of the day they called it the rabon's field because the owners didn't want it the real owner didn't want it the potential owner didn't want it and just fell to the m said over before with kellet his neighbor came came to him and said listen um when you did your cement work the new renovation of cement so some of the cement fell into the pipes and cause a big blockage in my house I want you to pay he says how much he says 600 okay so gave him 600 so later on somebody said to him but but I don't understand how do you know if he he really happened not happened he says listen first of all that that neighbor plumbing is on the other side of the building I don't have any Plumbing that something would fall in that would go to him that's number one number two I didn't even do that kind of work with the cement what he's saying so it's not it's not even me but maybe had a third reason also he say yeah if some of the cement would fall into the pipes all the water and everything would just wash it away it's not going to harden there like he's saying so Z how come how come you paid him the 600 he say it's not worth fighting with a neighbor over 600 she he wants the money here's the money even though I know 100% it's not me sometimes you got to be M I don't want the field because I didn't realize that you try to buy it you don't want the field because you are you don't want Matana and therefore V goes to goes to if you have any feels like that any real estate that you don't you want to give away Matas you don't want it if you on that MGA don't don't don't worry about it you can just give it will put some of it towards the shab help people out a person a person tells a woman you should be to me after 30 days and somebody comes in the middle of 30 days and what if somebody didn't [Music] come the first one and what's the even though she used up all the money there's nothing left after 30 days so where's the what's the problem perhaps you're going to view this money as a loan and M lights on it you're supposed to use a loan you could use a Lo so he gave her nothing at the end like we said or perhaps this money is a deposit and if it's a deposit you need at least one pro of worth left over says it's not a loan and it's not a deposit it's a real kadan and she used up her kadu money so with that after 30 days neither it's not at depit it's not a loan the deposit is you you use it in when it's owned by the owner the original the guy that makes the deposit but over here the woman got to use it this is the bigger loan is to use he gave her this money for K and therefore when she used it she used up her own money for and now he's just using that money that he gave her for K he's using it now and what if so he says 30 days so what if she takes it back within the 30 days now we have a major could you take something back when it's verbal could you take back a verbal promise basically does one verbal sentence undo a previous verbal [Music] sentence my words have the power to undo my previous words once she once she made up she's going to get married that's it she can't take a bag with a verbal just verbal word words so now is going to try to knock then is gonna have his turn a person that owns a crop and he sends a to separate the Trum and the be and then he calls up the agent he says hey please stop don't do what I told you to do if he was able to catch him on the phone before he took the truma then he shouldn't take the truma if he did it's not truma as the but how can he take it back he sent him it was a verbal command and then he tried to undo the verbal command with another verbal command it's different when you give the woman money in the beginning this somewhat of an act a little bit of a and therefore a verbal retraction cannot undo a verbal command plus action in in the beginning there was a verbal command I want to get engaged plus there was money involved that was given to her so there's a little bit of of physical action that's two against one because now you want to retract those two actions verbal and an action with one verbal and that doesn't work in other words what is saying is I never said that one Deber could be another de um I'm sorryish is the one that says that you cannot retract typically speaking I agre however in this case it's not aor it's aor so again there's no argument on just debor versus just he used the it's not a he used such because he doesn't really count it as a true action he wasn't mad he just gave her money or there's no then so maybe you can't really call it action that's why he called it a says if a person sends a divorce a get to his wife and he takes it back he himself caught up the says stop or he sent another another agent after the first say take it back I don't want to give that yet it's BT why wants to compare giving the G is like giving the woman a said giving has a little bit of action so very also no giving a get to an agent is not action it's just go divorce or that's words it's not like giving K that with this money she's going to be mes gave this the agent a document that's nothing there's no mice okay now so you know in order for a CLE to become T let's say a Sher one of the touches a CLE becomes t only if it's a complete C if the the artist making this CLE decides it's finished I'm done great so let's say he decided Well it needs another pish and then he thinks himself you know what I'm not going to polish it a second time I'm going to sell it as is so that that thought makes it into a CLE so they become susceptible to by a thought now if you want to say a CLE that's already susceptible to you want to say well I'm going to give it another polish that's not enough now you have to change you have to do something in the CLE to make it nonsusceptible sponsored for all those in need of andov in hon my uncle as for filled with and for all the mdy family great that's working we continue but if you take action that is [Music] enough action to break something to to cut something to make a inally that or whatever the action is that could undo action and certainly could take undo a thought but a thought alone is not strong enough not to undo another thought and not to undo [Music] action I get what you're saying that that cannot undo action you took action already it's a full F fledged clear and you want to undo it just with your thought that doesn't work but one should undo another in other words same kind of idea nothing happened I thought about it I said something but it one should undo the other one one verbal command could undo a previous verbal command so how come one can't undo another says it's just interesting we're talking about that I could change I could change an object the the where this object is going is it a finished clean not a finished CLE can it be not all my head just mentioned the other day that is all on the head what you say so this is a beautiful example example for that is in the M says that a person who works in let's say a he's writing he's from from why says the that's only if he thinks while he's doing it that he's doing it for the Mitzvah but if he thinks himself I'm writing the because I want to become wealthy hey they pay hundred plus thousand there you know what how much money I can make wow unbelievable that doesn't allow him to because he's not so again you have two they're writing the same exact speed they go to the same same quill everything but one thinks himself I'm doing this another should have another should have he doesn't have to damage because is in the head the other guy who says I want to make money he does have to D in say no it's different when it comes to T that's different that is considered the toy considers it AA how do we know so theor says again we have this word without a but we read it means that the person so let's go we're talking about so take a look at this slide see over here slide number it says one on it but you have it says and means that he'll put water on it because in order for fruit to be susceptible to T that if a a rat touches it a dead rat touches it becomes T only if you put water on it says but we read utan utan means that will be put on it the water will come on its own so R papa says I don't understand you're putting the water on it or it comes by itself because the doesn't have a v there and it's you could read it but we read it as if there's a v there how it work is like again so what why did the Tor not just put a there because the t is trying to say that the the water that comes down from rain is exactly like if you have in mind that I want this rain water then it works to be then the fruit becomes but if I don't want the rain because it's not that's why I took out the V that it has to be like that I physically put the water on it I want the water to be and other words the his thought operates over here you see that when it comes to t a thought is like a it's like as if I put the water there great says now we're going to have a little bit of a freebie because it's very very similar to what we learned up until now however slightly with a slight variation before we were talking about inish that is a and he says I want to get married to you and he gives her K now we're going to say no R says that there's no is on [Music] this she told an agent go ahead and accept meanwhile she snuck away and she became the second person if she was first she's engaged to the guy that she got engaged to and if the agent beat her to it then she is not the second one what if she didn't she wasn't she just took it back she doesn't want to marry she heard something about that guy he's a terrible guy she doesn't want to marry him oh so I have to show you in the sorry let's just go back so I REM you could put in all these charts here here it is here's a fruit it's on the tree it's locked at of Tuma there's no Tuma it's if um it rains on it and somebody touches it it's still tar if it's detached from the tree and somebody touches it it's tar but once there's water on it and you want the water to be on it now it becomes so then if somebody who T touches it then the Apple becomes red it becomes T okay says so now we're in this let me just see if we have here something here we have so says she could take it back why why could she take back why she why can she accept somebody else even though she sent an agent because she just told the agent to do something that's a Deber and another Deber another could undo that de now there's no over here it's just her I want to break this K it's one div against another in other words when forget her when when she sent an agent to go accept kin that agent didn't have AA there's no action that was taken she just told that agent go ahead and accept Kush so it was just plain old words so plain old words over here says I could break those plain old words says I cannot break those words I don't even need an action in order not to break those words without action so that's the difference between the first L and the second lo you can see in the slide he doesn't really Yos doesn't really put in oh it says over here very good I like that listen according with a little great yeah see great just over here explains it with a little m versus the non had a little a littleice of didn't so guess what now we have a freeb because now we had all these questions from [Music] before A guy send somebody to take Trum and then he takes it back so depends if his agent took the Trum or not so you see that that you could be agency with another it's talking about that the owner came ahead and he took he took the the truma from it that's a action took action just said moment ago that if a guy's making a CLE and he decides that he's done he wants to sell it as is so it's susceptible to T but if you want to make it you have to do something you have to change something action could break action and thought but a thought just the thought alone you cannot take you cannot break an action and you can't even break a thought I can because words cannot break action how come one can't undo another is different because when you're talking about the considers it action had a contradiction says without a and we read it with a how do explain the contradiction that when the water is put on it from an outer Source it's similar to when you put it on yourself just like when you put it on your by yourself you are happy with it you want it so too when it rains on it or whatever you are happy with it you want it but if you didn't know about it then it's not if somebody sends a messenger to divorce his wife and and he beat the to it he caught up with told him stop it's a against a you see one can cancel another and that's a problem with says one verbal command could undo another verbal command and even where there's a little bit of action involved even where the husband gave his kala money for K and it's only going to be another month so it's a slight action even so one another command could break that First Command that has a little action even though it's similar to action because he gave her money we have a contradiction you say is one we also say because he asks if a husband sends an agent to divorce a woman and then he retracts could he use that get a second time could you cannot how could you use the get you your agency how with deor but you is like that you could be one with another so over here you the agency to begin with so I can use the get again according I can use the get again so says obvious answer get he never canel the get he never said I don't want to use the get again he says I don't want you to deliver the G that's different so therefore you can use the G again so we learned in the mishna that if a person is a [Music] woman after 30 days and then a second person came and he got married he was M within the 30 days she's says the the second one forever the first guy was he gave her today and it should work so says No all he wanted to do is saying listen if the first guy dies then the second guy steps in says very interesting the second guy has no business being married to her forever he can marry her up for 30 days because the guy said I'm giving you K today the first guy give K day and after 30 days so if the second guy steps in he gets to be married for 30 days and after 30 days there's no more second guy goes back to the first guy how in the world could you have somebody that's married and all of a sudden he's not married anymore without a get without the death of a husband how do how does she how could she be married to the first guy what happened to the second because you asked it in the wrong you understood that on the part of the miss that we just said but in fact it wasn't said on that part of the M he learns it on the second part of not that you should be married that's the second part of the mishna it starts today ends in 30 days so it actually started today so that R says since it started today ends in 30 days so now I have a big suff I don't know for not that she she there's a suff the suff only lasts for 30 days for the first 30 days so after 30 days then there's no suff at all then the first K obviously are going to be finished because he started today and ends in 30 days he said specifically from now till then not here's the and it should be only in 30 days it starts from now and ends in days ra is not sure a person says did he regret it did he all of a sudden say you know what no no not you're not getting we're not getting engaged now we're getting engaged after 30 days or perhaps it's a condition it's going to start now and if I decide within I'm giving myself a trial period if I decide Within These 30 days that I don't want to be married to you then we won't be married says no that that's exactly what it is it's p he says he's not trying to retract anything he's explaining starts today and we will be married forever in 30 days but if I don't like what's going on here then we're not going to be married or that so raav they argue really in the what if a person says you should be married uh I'm giving you this get from today and should after he dies get get it's a what he meant did he mean that the get should be today or did he mean it should be after Miss there's no get after I'm giving today if I die says if that's the same so says exactly like so he should just say I pass like and should they shouldn't pretend like they're making a says exactly like say that's only when it comes to get because he's trying to get away from [Music] her maybe he agrees that he's not retracting actually he's just explaining that he's doing a condition because he's trying to get married it's only over there that there's no get after because he says I want this to be now from now and after death everybody knows there's no such thing as but over here where it's possible for to be to happen after 30 days maybe he'll agree to and therefore I need the case of I the case of K and both have a wonderful day