Daf Yomi Kiddushin Daf 16 by R’ Eli Stefansky

okay [Music] we have with us a very very harshly guest yes four days already I might have said hello to him but here he is very he's living today for coming who else we had oh also similar name no what's your name from Boro Park not even climate symbolism all right representing Boro Park we have a few yetis here what yeah but he's he's a regular he's a regular huh who I know that's right we read the email son all right what's your name Takia huh I was hoping in Leo but okay fine what's your name is in the house the back table all right over here we have somebody took a picture of somebody doing the daf on the train and the guy that took the picture he said that he was embarrassed he was watching a podcast and when he saw this individual learning the daf he decided to start doing the dive himself so you never know what I'm saying when you learn in public like that you don't know what a spot has this individual has no idea I think I'm gonna say he doesn't know that he's somebody else to learn Tyra that's that's what you have so not only are you gaining for yourself but you don't know what that's what you're doing to other people raghdan one says I made it recently in Chicago and attend umdy for the first times I'm currently loving learning condition with you I just received my free gamara I have two comments about recent your room I'll start with the shortest simpler comment your son's upcoming bar mitzvah yaakov subec he says eating fish I don't remember which the daffa was but you mentioned the friend who's a vegan version no I didn't say he was a vegan I said that he maybe they can't afford fish so much or they don't like fish I don't know what they eat a tiny amount of tuna fish I don't think he's accomplishing anything he says we're supposed to eat meat car bonus which is also no it's for simcha but on Shabbos if you don't enjoy these things there's no 50 that's what he claims okay no it says Mr if you don't like if you don't like fish you don't need it I think he likes it he just wants to be your design something else huh there's always thanks so much for making the chart better from day to day this is from Joseph from curios uh the the owner of games he says the charts get better from day to day yo she's doing an amazing job it's better I love the new layout for the sukim much clearer that the guy that sent the post yesterday nicer look I'll vote for it then CNS gutten tag says I love it but the chapter in the verse at the Battle of the page should be bigger and then Mike lamb says keep the colorful words your Shear is not a boring magazine [Music] all right boys the coilover is sponsored by may we married to Crown Hashem the message families Lincoln New Jersey because Tyran actors are the best yes and all them dividers no longer wording in honor rebellious brain intact unleash your full potential treatment success in all my Endeavors art of the months now I want to take this opportunity we've been sitting on these amazing amazing cheers I 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your father whenever you want for me to speak to my father is a whole laser he doesn't have a phone he's a different country it's very very difficult to reach him and I spoke to him for 20 minutes it was unbelievable he's in he's an American now in Miami and uh he called me for the bar mitzvah and I got to speak the marriage for 20 minutes but he told me an amazing thing he said that he's spends by this person Gershon fish in North Miami Beach and happens to be the regression fish watches this year and the guy he needs her for Slammer because his name is Ben Fredo uh the behind changed his name Freda the freedom whatever something like that but Refuge Lima and I have a lot of occurs that type them it's it's uh it's good that my father found Gershon and representation every time he's in the hospital to share the so a big Shout at the regarding big shout out to my Holy Father call again if anybody ever tells you that you saw this call again okay you take it for granted he's a shakuan learning game of a Layla and then usually when I do speak them it's for two three minutes now imams she was oh here it is [Music] okay you're sitting on it are you enjoying it cheers [Music] foreign hard to find them but they're out there where we have we have apostle that tells us that when a a slave is Redeemed by certain people it could be three there's three categories in this possum Redeemed by himself that's in the middle Redeemed by his relatives Redeemed by others yesterday if he's Redeemed by himself we know that he goes out free there's nobody to talk there's nothing to talk about he redeemed himself but what if his relatives redeem him does he have to work for the relatives or what if strangers redeemed does he have to work for the strangers said it was a combination sort of like the but Ayla the word but Ayla says it's not everything in this list it's one and you have to pick which one now how do you pick which one so they use the logic it was a combination of like a word in the possible so basically he says it makes sense that if a stranger redeems you should work for him he has nothing to do with you why would he want to redeem you we won't redeem you next time if you don't work for him work for him but if a relative redeems you you don't have to work for him he's your relative it'll redeem you you know he feels bad for you he'll redeem you everything says no the opposite if you don't work for your relative you keep on going and telling yourself okay so that was that now we're holding six lines from the bottom over here that's that those two she does now whether you are Redeemed by your relatives whether you're Redeemed by a stranger you go free that's the sheet of rebe why the mapping up he doesn't have that extra word Baylor he uses Baylor to say that a slave a Jewish slave that sold to a guy does not go out after six years remember all the way on Top of the Bay right here on this armor all the way in the top you work for yourself goes together with the relatives you work for yourself you're free completely or the Atma goes downwards and says just like you work for you when you free yourself you go out completely free so too when strangers redeem you go out and believe it Rebbie says it goes in both directions it goes everywhere up and down MMA law whether it's crazy it's always like yourself and you go out completely free will make your images that sometimes you have to work for somebody when they redeem you have to work either for a stranger for relatives so what does rebby do with this video very interesting we can very much understand this Allah you have uh my name is shaluni you know whatever we want to call him imagine we rule we have the body denim it's all ours and there's a non-jew that's enslaving a fruit guy from our show so what do you do you put out a false sock you could do all sorts of stick and get them out so the third is warning us no no stick no lying if the the non-jew bought him that's it he works for him and the story who said we're in control maybe we're not in control if you're not in control how are you gonna start making stick in America you're gonna make stick a guy bought something you can't take it Adam you can't oh my my Jewish Court said you should release him okay but if you're you're there to stroll and you rule and you say oh my court said that every Chinese he goes out free it's it's the 15th year of the of the joyful cycle you have to let him go so he's no breaker you let him go that you shouldn't do yeah so must be that we're talking about a non-jew that's under our Rule and the tire is warning us the only time he goes out from the non-jew is and don't try to pull any stick new sogio foreign says that a person I don't know if you notice but I did two things for this text we took off the glow around it and we took off the timer [Music] I thought the timing War shows that it's a possible but since he that was one of his the time is too much what this is very light yeah there is glow very slight still to make it more interesting a little bit you tell me we got three emails leave it the first way but if two emails come and say leave it this way we'll leave it this one fine meanwhile going this way we're gonna start well prove we'll improve yeah so again we had this positive earlier the the master takes another wife on in addition to the alma evil to the Jewish slave that he has so the third tells us he was me either she became his wife but she was first she was first a slave must treat her properly just because he took another wife that wasn't a slave doesn't mean to give her but the Tyrone in the same puzzle talks about a slave and a regular wife so when you have two concepts in one positive it's called The Haggis and the heckish tells us that they're similar a regular wife and Alma are similar just like the first mission of tells us that a regular woman you could be kinder her with a star I found my real mechanical star so to the the slave the Jewish slave is also purchased by stars and if she's personally star so Jewish man slave is also there's no difference between a woman and man um or the actual slave right what's the difference one is a purchaser one is a seller now if you want to compare it to kadushin the husband who's sort of like the purchaser of the wife he's acquiring the wife he writes the star but if the ummah or her father writes the star so it's like it would be similar to the woman in a condition writing the star and that doesn't work we know that baked ocean the husband writes the star he's the the one acquiring so by by your armor would be the one acquiring the Amma which is the master that's great that's according to Rejoice that's the ravono my name is but if the father who's the seller writes the star it's not similar to conducion because we have a little bit of a problem and therefore we learn from that that the purchaser the one acquiring the I'm sorry because like by kadushan the one acquiring the wife he writes the star the other in writes the star everything is great so if this has to come up with the noob shots that we're going to see soon but he has a new possum that uh a non-jew slave goes out if the master pokes at his eye breaks his tooth he goes out free or the 24 rochevarum the fingertips the the the the 20 toes and fingers that we have Etc I will make it so if you break one of those off it goes out free I will so light takes how about them that uh Jewish slave does not go out I will nickname makes a a deal he doesn't go out like a slave but it comes in like a slave doesn't go out but comes in with my new star comes in with the star I think about obvious question who why did you pick star there's other ways that you could purchase a slave and maybe you should compare you can make that that deal can say it doesn't go out like a slave but it comes in like a slave hey man I have a with the slaves as Rashi you tell the slave to do something for you go take my my briefcase from here to there he does it that's kazaka on macro so meheka they saw that you could be kind of a slave bishtar a Jewish labor star maybe he learned that you should be calling a Jewish slave with hazaka is something you give yerusha to your sons you could acquire every similar to a field the kazaka banat a Jewish slave but now the problem is who told you to Direction like that Isam is a good limitation eliminating that you cannot purchase a Jew slave maybe it means you can't purchase Drew slave with a star we have a what he has the opposite of limitation we have a reboot we have something that tells us that you should be like a like a like a slave umarisa but which one is it you have two in front of us and you decided it should be like a slave that you could be calling a Jewish slave with a star but why do you decide that so now that we learned enough lately every time why do you pick this over this what's the answer the stabro it's logic I picked star over star is very powerful star has the ability to divorce a woman you can't divorce a woman kazaka would be like counter-intuitive you're gonna tell her to do something for you and she's gonna get divorced I mean but it doesn't work so star is very powerful also has a lot of power watch you can quite a bit of say I get let's say if a convert a girl dies without any children without any urgent so anybody could come along and acquire his possessions we have to do hazaka you have to do the right thing right with The Miser with the woman who with the fence the whole thing you have to knock on the part to do one little thing one hole in the ground or whatever it is how we're gonna do star two he's dead yeah to yourself poor guy we gotta change the guest seats for now men do you come here no way poor guy it's every day it's the same story don't worry about it really when did you get here Friday took you all the way 20 years you know this guy also who don't you know 20 years how does somebody knock them through 20 years so let's see soccer man I know wait a minute your name is David right yeah what's your last name Hauser ah you're the one that wrote the email yes and Dove it okay so I just I just read the email from you I really didn't know I read anything from you but this is I didn't write that so what do you you spoke to him straighten it out how are we gonna go forward how are we going to move forward he's Dover than you Dove it and I need to know that then I need to pay attention okay fine he is doing you're right yeah so he went off to there kind of foreign you could just pick up a beautiful mansion if you just uh make a hole in the ground it becomes yours it says we're talking about here so what is the thing where it says but in marriage you don't find it so the obvious answer is because Omaha has a lot to do with marriage there's a concept of viewed when you purchase her you have the ability to marry her so it's within that category of marriage and therefore we don't find the concept of hazaka in marriage but we find the concept of star in marriage when you divorce a woman that's why we take the puzzle that image is a heckish between Amma and a woman and we use that techish for starring now how do I actually know the concept of a star not from this possible points out right away that I learned from the effort from karka but which one to take the star or the kazakai because this whole possibly the answer where does who doesn't hold that the master as the star of because the whole that the father writes the Stars he has to come out of this person who to do with this positive now my doorsby foreign Jewish slave doesn't go out when the master pokes her eye out he has to pay for the eye but she doesn't go out free of Christ also holds that so he needs a he needs a limo somewhere and he already used up that whole pasta no he didn't use up the whole puzzle came with the girl like say it's a cavity she shouldn't go out like a slave my kids say so about him okay this or this is not even a limo this is like I'm a foolish Apostle how do you know that a slave after six years goes out there she is again I'm before it's apostles how do you know that you can prorate the amount of time that it worked and give back to the master the the remaining money and go out there is how does a slave acquire himself with money the value of money foreign if you're writing this puzzle right there's it's telling you that you could prorate the amount of work so how would you write it if there's more years left over based on that that's how much he has to pay back what's yes so the Merc says the word yahsheb is actually to teach us that value somebody that has the value of money is like money there's a buffer in benebra who burnt the hole in his friend's jacket it had been to me actually I was in Germany and I bought a and then a whole trip with the with my friend we went did I say this is okay fine we want to go to French Casino in Belgium and my friend came up with a genius idea that there's a Hugo Boss a factory outlet I'm not gonna say the whole story but there's a factory in uh Stuttgart whatever it's called over there in Germany that Stuttgart and uh they sell boss suits for Mama's cheap the kids are we bought a whole bunch of suits and one of the things I bought was a nice long coat and I was here and there's a stroll in the mirror in the uh burnt my a hole right through my coat and I told him I said look what you just did you you the ashes went through my things like that he went like that but this bocker this bucker wanted to pay the guy back he burned the hole in a suit so he went to the receiving panovich and he said this egg that I eat in the morning is it mine to be macavish or woman he said yeah so the guy collected eggs and he'd pay him back eggs every week he gave him like uh I think it's my egg it's my egg to my gosh I wonder she said it's mine so every week he gave him 12 eggs anymore I gave you 300 eggs from panovic that was your payment now I'm not saying it's the right thing to do we discuss it already if you go to a wedding is it yours to be Cottage woman or not it becomes yours when you put it in your mouth do you have the right thing at home I peed the whole we went through that a different Studio different time okay oh should I tell you my pet peeve no no no no it's okay all right for another episode so what's but what's the star what's going on with star how's it going with the star he named the cost of living start at May in English this would be called probably a check for a person writes a star that I owe you money people actually saw us Farm they bring down from this Sugi mamish about star about a check it's mamish considered money I know Castle there's no you wouldn't say kessef and a check it's the same one in the same money and a wire so it's all the same talking about that it's it says words in a star you are free and now here are boys I don't look inside for a second I should have asked this question the beginning of the show I wanted to what do you think is looking forward and he's going to answer you can't answer now that's it whoever looks inside loses does the evidence you know it's a trick question so you're gonna answer if I cared of what you think every is his body owned by you or you just he gets to he works by you what does the island say with the show of hands is the evidence is his body owned by you yes a show man of course you see me next to me like I might tell you your name is Das uh you look even worse both of you okay so nobody picked up their hands great you're all doing terrible today yeah because he also look at him look at that smirk and that way says he never got to start at the Mariana Castle Christian says why do you need to Starship or for a Jewish slave lately back what is that what happened you paid him a thousand dollars has to work here for two years six years be Michael in the thousand dollars he could go free just like any other loan right zil in front of the two people say Dino say in front of a person if you want to zil get out of here unbelievable it was just finished it was could die to come to the sheriff he didn't understand one word of all these take this away one thing so Samaras evidence that you can't even believe you own the Jewish slave for what for his work not like you own a a gayisha slave mom is like uh like a like a animal like a Bahama or whatever okay erase that on YouTube but but you own him you own his body for the malacha and therefore perhaps you don't have the right to to say there's no Michael you own him you can't be Michael I can't take uh uh my computer and say oh I'm Michael my computer I might hold it then you you have it that's not how it works abandoning your thing if it's you go if I hear it's not going to work we have to find out why I hear what you're saying saying doesn't work it's good for his girlfriend's Corner because because it's one of these things could you uh could you abandon your wife this is there's a little bit of a king and I'm not I'm not comparing I'm not saying but the certain King on him when you own it's not you again you don't own it like uh like uh like a like metal you don't own a Evan every like you own an animal and you could abandon it's a different kid you own him for his work whatever that means who says you can abandon it's Allah kind of Kenyan and then for that you need huh yeah all right I didn't see this places and he says what I'm trying to do all choices in okay see that okay huh we have acknowledge he says very good question is besides star okay good cash value what's your name again and you live over here around here huh so you're gonna come every day is that so far it's seven minutes away how far okay it's just like these guys are living gimbals not that uh it's a nice little shop is it is it a good place to build a new mdy center great okay we'll talk afterwards you gotta move tips a little far or something oh [Music] all right so you see this inside that it's not enough just to say oh I'm letting you out but you know what at the end of the day there's something that you would you think that you need like a star when a person does an Avera that we could just do true you can make a lot in your head you can say I'm leaving it I'm not going back to it whatever you have to do but you can make it's easy it's a mama hello certain things you have to make a document after this it's harder not not true okay you say you're all of Maho you say I love our doesn't have and that is when she missed Church it becomes a naira and she has Sim on him she goes out and we're gonna be dealing with this the whole day today in addition to all the things that have in the mishnah that a uh almost real goes out I have another kid that's there's another thing that the mission doesn't discuss ion when her own father dies she leaves her master's resource I can't believe how late it is okay so I won't say the joke fine I will say the joke it was a Mr Sab Mr saying there was a uh the guy's in the hospital with his wife visiting the trigger and the doctor said I have to speak to you urgently so he says you stay here I'll take care of it he goes speaks to the doctor comes out the wife says what what did he say oh he said that we should get ready your mother is going to move in to our house and live there forever she says that's what he said he didn't say it like that he said is get ready for the worst of the worst [Laughter] Mimi sassab okay whatever it's a middle dresses it's the middle of Russia it's not hello okay see here this it's unbelievable and we're gonna the entire Ahmed is about knocking proving that he's wrong and finally gonna prove that he's wrong that if the father of this girl dies and she's a slave she goes out um when she asks him on him she doesn't leave her father's possession or if her father you're right there's certain things he can't do but myciodayem so for certain things yes but for my sudden he still retains ownership over her salary and everything else are not strong enough to take her out from the father's resource my team is strong enough to release her from her master Misa when when her own father dies then her Mighty Dying God herself not to her brothers there's no yerusha on her mind so certainly when her father dies he should leave the Masters roushos Mexican acquires herself with Simon vemisa if you're writers left something up make sure that I share everything more always asks if you leave something out you have to leave at least more than one thing you can't just leave one thing out that doesn't make sense then put it in the list but if you have more than one thing you can say the list is a very long list I don't want to say the whole list this is something called Mrs when the actual Master dies she is released but that's not true that's not a good that's not considered leaving it off the list they came to give tony let me ask you something your voice I think about it for a second if the master dies does a Jewish slave man work for the Sun yes yes so then why does the gamara say no because you're talking about anirtsa you have to pay attention to that it's a trick if a Jewish man slave who's a near Tower had his ear punctured his master dies that's the only way he could go out Mrs Arden and the oval remember then oh so it's not a good list you can't say oh we left off Mr sudden it's also by a man it's not only specific to woman you want to say you Sarah love that that a Jewish woman she has something special she goes up to team on him and she has something else special she goes out when the master dies not true it's not Special A man also goes out when the master dies so maybe it's not part of the list you just told me an extra way of her going out when her own father dies she goes out how come it's not in the missionaries when it's something very specific the six years we know exactly is we know how much is we know that she work he's purchased for 600 worked for three years we know exactly to the dollar how much money is owed here double shanely kids for like Tony I don't know I don't know when the father is gonna die I have no idea maybe you'll live forever maybe I'll die tomorrow maybe we'll die next day so maybe I'm not talking about it now everybody say this we're gonna have a word for word three times basically could be 12 and a half it could be 14 and a half it could be anything and we're gonna have this ripstaffer three times you're right I don't know when she's gonna have Sim on him but one thing I do know that there's a there's a there's a a limit downwards a lower a lower limit that what the Sangha Summa whether you're talking girl boy that's a singing in neither but the bottom line is that if a nine-year-old has Simone two hairs Shuma we say it's it's from a mole it's not it doesn't show maturity remain after they become an adult foreign started when she was younger and they remained there until she was already an adult doesn't count the same monomena came when she was already 13 in other words 12 in a day then according to everybody to Simon so in other words there's a lower limit nine nine years old is like this 13 hours like that we don't know when it's going to come but there's limits downwards in honor of my uncle president as disclosed for a year for his family Rebellion everyone doing the dove muscle relaxations another question says that uh Alma evil goes out when her father diesel first of all stamina this is you know I think it's pushed everybody will see it again a narrow is from 12 if she brings him on him to 12 and a half that's the whole age of an arrow and from there are it's big Garrus now here goes Arbor manikim Lem there are four types of slaves that get gifts parting gifts three of them are only possible by man the blue and three of them only possible by the girl the pink one who goes out after six years one goes up are both by man or a woman nirtsa and now pay attention to the gold because that's that's the only thing that's going to change here is that the third one is uh evid that had his ears pierced when his master dies he goes out that's not possible by a woman why because a woman doesn't get her ear pierced special for the girl so says it says neither the boy the girl have four the fishes is right that is something called when the father dies she goes out add that to the list there's five the list is not complete it should have been five but we just said four verbactani but it is complete foreign [Music] okay so what the gamar is going to do here is going to take that one out if we take the gold out and switch it to something else then we don't have this question the question is look there's something on the list that doesn't have a limit I don't know when the master is going to die take it out oh if you take it out but you have to fill it in with something here here's the new list maybe I don't like it so much why because it's similar to the one right above it but it's considered for it's here it's different okay bro it makes a lot of sense if you're right that Mrs Adan is one of them look at that if the red line Mrs Arden is one of them wait a minute a woman has all four because when her master dies she leaves so the list is actually four not three so therefore I have to scratch out Mr Southern which doesn't apply to a woman and put it near to be either which doesn't apply which I'm sorry Mrs Sultan does apply to women doesn't apply to a woman and now the list makes sense says that the mission is not complete there's another way that um goes out and that is when her father dies these are the the slaves they give gifts when they leave and once heard but I couldn't find it today I didn't have time that like in Canada maybe it's the old minute when somebody would leave prison to give him like a horse and a crisis I don't know some sort of I remember something like that I might be completely wrong so over here look at this list this is completely different than what we learned take out everything we just learned I'm sorry Mister saw them that's it's its own thing this is how come this list doesn't have the death of a father like you said you'll say oh the listener complete it says these are very specifications doesn't contain something it doesn't have a limited explain doesn't have a limit downward lower limit has upper limit it has a lower limit but not upper limit oh but this gold one Mrs Odin is in the list and it doesn't have a kitsuba it doesn't have a limit Ed to use the bomb question of stockings I don't have an answer but the problem is Simone is very powerful why does she go up with someone because she's a different person before she was like Tyler now she's a naira she changed this is not the person I bought you bought a different person it's like a team sort of thing when a father dies nothing happened to her I thought there's a murderous even though we don't have that much time but let's see it inside because um even though she is a changed person she remains in her father's possession nevertheless she leaves her master's resource means the shop Peace So death even though nothing happened the father dies nothing happened to her body she's the same person and she leaves her father's roshos certainly she should leave listen to this I wanted for the answer is this is not the body this is explains it's so good this is not the person you bought now listen to this by father you can't say oh she's a different person what's this you know he's always Our Father no matter what huh that's not important anymore we got to the point that I wanted yep Shoppers at uh 8 45 please where are we where are we oh they oh oh okay yeah hold on we learned one place we have a contradiction why it says the gift goes to the to the to the to the Jewish man slave then it got my real asthma that makes a lot of sense she works she gets the gift the problem is the opposite only by Oma the father gets her gift what do we do does she get the gift or does the father get the gifts if she finds something it goes to her father she finds a diamond but she you have to pay back the 25 minutes that it took her to find it and give it to the Father the whole thing back upon in my life so this is we already Shrugged him up but Lord is all right or what how do you explain the contradiction must be that when the father when she goes out the SIM on him she's still in the shoes of the father until she until she becomes a bagueres then she gets to keep it for herself no not like her she went out to see him one case she doesn't have a father she gets to keep but one case she doesn't have a father she doesn't get the gift says the gemara foreign why do I have to say that she gets to keep it to tell me that she doesn't give it to the brothers even though her father died but not your own daughters why would I think that you could take a slave's gift and take it why who else you get it Elon man and you made from it a big country in other words have said oh that the man's gift goes to himself the whole is that the woman's gift goes to herself but not the man of course the man's gifts goes themselves I just want to show you this real quickly because we changed it from yesterday this is check this out this is what we call Shibu NASA look how simple this is now Yoshi did a little addition and everything is that much better you have three people a mouthful and a schlichi so Mama took money gave it to the Leiva the lady took money gave it to the schlichi says the gemara typically speaking means the slishy gives it directly to the Malvo the Marvel doesn't have to go to the liver in this case when the slave acquires a gift he doesn't give it to the the the master shouldn't give it to the shleshy you should give it directly to the slave and only to the slave Rabb boys I have a wonderful [Music]