Daf Yomi Kesubos Daf 34 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning rabboissai ah how's everybody doing here live in south africa in madik way i'm sitting right in front of a watering hole behind me and throughout the day different animals come by and take a drink perhaps during this year if you're bored see an elephant walk by just two minutes ago an elephant came by different animals so the bottom line is my suitcases once again get stuck in energy straw with all my gear all the stuff the chargers for the computer so i don't really have a computer the cables for the camera all that stuff all the good stuff so we're doing with what we can do uh recording off a cell phone and uh let's see how it goes my svaram i have different sperm that i get different raid from all of my suitcase so let's get this going we're holding daf lamin game alone base and uh we're moving we're holding by ebit they are two lines from the bottom so gemara is telling us right now that we're going to sheep estradi mayor every mayor holds that you could get malcus and pay at the same time it's possible such a thing but the gemara says that when it comes to misa and paying that campy in fact when we say that a person who steals an animal and he has to pay our behalf it's talking about a case where he sent the shliya and the did the tv not him and that's how we're able to get a case of where he stole it from was done through somebody else i think mark says well how is it possible if somebody else did it you you you're obligated to pay for what somebody else did yes but nothing more says if in fact it's talking about that somebody else did the shrita not you might rabona de padre so then the whole point is come lay with the mini we have a situation where i am on one but i can't be higher than the other but if somebody else did it so where do you have that says let me get my charts in which i almost lost we were hoping that we could get some sort of connection with the internet [Music] i just said the entire sugar in one second but asked amara if you're talking about sauron iskall you're talking about avid zoro so i understand that it's it's not roi it's not a good chiquita yeah it's not good but that's the gemaro oh maybe it's on i just okay here we go just hoping it's not gonna die on me as we're talking because there's no charging now let me get to that chart here we go i don't know if you could see the chart but this is for yosef you'll say if this is the chart that we're looking for so according to her mayor the way to remember this based on iran the way to remember this makhages if you can and i'm going to go in the sheet of russian hula not rashi over here just to make it easier and simpler the mazed of ruby mayor which says that if somebody shocks an animal on purpose says blue are the same so the maze that we just said according to the according to review and that's the we're going in right now that what the person or cooks on by accident on shabbos he cannot eat that food forever however other people have to wait until massive shocks and if he does be amazing according to wilhelm sandler it's oscar for himself it's also for everybody forever and that's the you're asking me that if you chef an animal on sabbath it's a good treat uh people could eat from it no according so i just want to make a point there to ask your local rabbi you have this issue in this role when you have factories that produce things on chavez so here's the musligas if somebody produces a jew produces something on shabbos but amaze it is a mother to other people normal to other people there's some that i make a little bit in certain situations if you look at uh some some manufacturers they put a date sometimes the date is the date that it was manufactured sometimes different dates you have to know when i was a child i lived in neighborhood and uh people were mahmoud not to use electric because jewish people are producing that electric they're working the machines so that's why a lot of people in urgent stroll use generators some people won't even use the water on shabbos so these are halakhas that you have to think about it's a shabbos this idea of benefiting from something that was done on shabbos is the right so there are butter mandolin on their eyes okay martin says in the possible smartness of shabbos he brings apostles [Music] in a in a factory tamayo the robot on the patriarchy now what's the reasoning behind rabona keep kopatri on ashara you're right [Music] to somebody to watch and that's where the animal killed somebody and the the peasant passing you have to kill the animal ugnova ghana and the geneva occurred in the watchers house beautiful parrots says the gemara mayor holds like two shitas that what first of all we want to say that he took monetary value away from the shimer how because there's a question whether the shriner could just say hi racial khalifanerja could he give the animal he was supposed to watch the animal and the animal went and killed could he take the dead or the animal supposed to die and give it back to the owner and say hey here it is but the one's gonna say but it's worthless it's a try on this call yeah take it back says good goes back and gives it dead whatever to the owner it's considered getting back the solar current and now another problem since i took the shore on this girl i took it and my causing manatee the asthma you don't have to come out the shoimer that's too much of a track development would be sponsored by mushy horn let me just lower this here okay bye moishe horn in honor of za zach the rock rocklin and lenny lerner cba and yanko kong the official mba mdy msp and woody newman in honor of her belly mayor holds of logan michalem that you could be hi if to it don't say comedy remedy give a high of money and get marcus however mace mace hold on i just don't want to shake this around too much okay meisu michelin leslie he doesn't hold of the concept to get the death penalty and to pay a fine i heard once i don't know how accurate this is there are that if somebody commits suicide they give him a fine i don't know if it's true or not by the way just as a side note since i was wearing my i came out of here on motse above and i was wearing my mdy jacket so it happens to be that the only clothing that i have is a white shirt and the mdy jacket because everything else is on the plane somewhere just thought it was interesting to tell you i'm on a safari with the mdy black jacket a little strange my dress shoes my shaba shoes all i need is my hat they might fill in and i'm ready to go vera mayor leicester toyota so if this guy is hive me some every mayor holds that if you have me so you don't pay a know so why over here he pays the dollar he pays pays a class even though he's getting the death penalty michelle has to pay says now listen to this this is amazing stuff rabbit goes in his own cheetah marabou huh i thought maybe i'll show you this it came all the way up to me but it's a very interesting red bird red stomach can't really see now okay next time the as the rabbo it brings to mind that gemara that if you stop the middle of learning you say ma elon is predicated on stopping a middle little break here a little break there so matter says if a person stole a goat before shabbos and then he was over on the tv so [Music] already happened before shabbos gonav hold on a second if he stole the goat before shabbos and he did the four and the five she finds sky big neighbor calling chevrolet is a very very beautiful husband here because he already stole it beforehand so he's high on the principle first so we could add the four and the five on shabbos even though his hive nissan shabbos first for for shakting it but since he was already high on the principal on on sunday so therefore you could add the four and the five on shabbos gona vital but if it all occurred on shabbos he stole it on shabbos potter then he spotted it from the dalai lama because you could only be higher on the four and the five if you're also hive on the principal under a dignity i thought this would be interesting here we go you think i have something for him uh-huh do you think we have food for them some sort of uh quill i think that is something like that interesting bird okay [Music] you don't pay the on the five why we'll see soon this very interesting idea formula listen to this for boys unbelievable if he already stole the goat on a sunday and then he went and he shifted it means in a tunnel he was tunneling into area it's kind of backwards i hope it's not backwards when i show it if a guy is tunneling into your house and allah is that asking in other words somebody is let me just fix this slightly and the horizon is slightly off okay somebody's breaking into your house and we know that that guy breaking in knows that if he if you find him you might try to save yourself so therefore he's willing to kill you if he's willing to kill you you could kill him first that's the morris says unbelievable hop now let me you know before i tell you what the gemara says let me tell you this yashif i thought it was fascinating doesn't say it as as a certain allah but he says maybe and i thought it's fascinating he says if a guy is texting and driving texting and driving and he damages somebody he's potter from paying why maybe he says maybe maybe since if you text and drive you're high of misa you are me whatever you have no business taking a vehicle that's a very dangerous thing and and texting you're being negligent and you while you were negligent your potter from paying the damages because you already hired me so i'm commonly with your admin if you have me so hashem is upset at you he's going to kill you for doing protecting driving so you pop different damage to somebody's car says oola but you see this idea over here a guy is tunneling into somebody else's house so he's high of mesa so to speak because the guy could come and kill him he could preempt it and kill him so he's high of [Music] if he already stole the animal beforehand he's driving the foreign fighter but listen to this gonna have a television but if the whole neighbor happened in the tunnel he was tunneling into his friend's house and all of a sudden he found a goat laying around in the tunnel and he steals the goat and he shook the goat he's potter since he's potter on the geneva why is he potter in the geneva because he's high and miso here what's going on here beautiful he's hive misa that's step one why is it miso because he's about to kill another jew and the jew could kill him so he's there for his guy and since he's high of misa he's parted from the geneva and since he's potter from geneva there's no form five if there's no geneva why it says rash you're unbelievable the only time you have four or five you never have two and three three and four you never have three and four and over if you're not high for the geneva because you're already potter for completely revenue so that you can't pay the four and five there's no three and four there's only four and five it goes together with geneva unbelievable spotters [Music] so we have two cases here and the one before with shabbos the ash means mushroom if somebody's either phil shabbas you could go after him for the rest of his life if two of them say hey in 1965 we saw you be mahal shabbas they'll put them to death they'll stone him there's no statute of limitation it's when he's in the tunnel then he's high misa soon as he gets out of the tunnel and he's no longer a threat even according to the rabbi when he turns around to walk out even though he's in the tunnel also potter amyloid so maybe he shouldn't be puttered from the money yes going to the tunnel that's his warning is the raw in other words you'll have to go warn him you know say oh i'm about to kill you hands up i'm about to kill you and you're about to die you hide me so no a guy comes in you you kill which how is the way i'm rapper instead of a goat it's a cow he had a stolen cow the day the day before shamans and he did which usually is high of four and five higher four and five should find a sky big navajo so shabbos doesn't save him because he already stole it before shabbos apart but this is slightly different as zumar's going to point out if the cow was lent to him with fuckabish and he sucked it on travis potter what's he adding to what we already learned we learned the same case about a goat and now he's talking about a cow what's the hedge says the gemara um i would think that since when are you hive to feed the animal from the time that it went into your shoes so it's about a case that a person barred an animal and he put a muzzle on the animal she's skye if you're not feeding the animal and he's high for the muscles the mark says because he's hyped to feed the animal from the moment that he borrowed it so here also his hive in missionaries to feed and sustain this animal so maybe he's also higher also for inus from the moment that he barred it commercial know it doesn't happen then it happens now that's when you're and that's what he wanted to tell this is not a goat a cow versus a goat that's because this is lending omarovo listen to this i think there's three major hidden merits like that i wasn't aware of this here's the question if a father borrows a car from his friend and like he dies he has a heart attack could the sons continue driving the car i thought not i borrowed the car not my sons for 30 days continue using it for the 30 days you want to join this year i'm almost done could you do me a favor you get me some water please i forgot to get water thanks mace somebody who borrows a cow a car whatever it is and it dies the card comes out depends let's say you have a cow you borrow a cow and a cow dies these children they could use the cow is their own they inherited it and they thought it was their own and they made a lot they went and they shifted it so you think you go into somebody's house you think it's your cow and you shucked that cow you'd be high full full-fledged the full amount no no [Music] they paid two-thirds of of what they had and not two-thirds of the value of the animal in other words whatever they had to know from not what it's worth in the market right that in fact allah is that if i feed you i give you something to eat i could come to you two years later say hey i gave you a meal you owe me two thirds i gave you another you owe me two thirds i was thinking maybe i should just uh like for the stick i should go to everybody from mdy and say hey you all owe me you know a couple hundred dollars for all the coffee that you uh there is an elephant let me know oh is that an elephant i don't see it let me know when it's there i want to show the island a whole herd is coming you'll have a herd of elephants as we finish up this year maybe we'll just leave the camera on and let them watch later let me know when it's like really close i could show them uh but if the father left over some real estate kyogre will shallow then they have to pay what in what case when they checked the animal by mistake or the first case when the animal died ike the massive so this is also for yosef but just in case we have a ratio and a safer and then we have on the bottom it says if you say goes on the ratio that what that they are hive to pay even a situation where they had a highness they weren't negligent at all the animal the zionists that they have to pay from the father's real estate certainly if they went ahead and they shocked the animals so what if they thought it was theirs but they shocked that they did there might be a diet so certainly in that case and they will that will argue on a and the one who says it only on the safa in other words that if the father has real estate they are to pay when they shift an animal by mistake all the racial thought but now when these arena is behind the wrap up and that's exactly where pope says now we're going back to the original verse says this is the sugar that we're saying right now there's going according to a mayor that says you could get malthus and pay you there's no common raminate you could do both rubian says no if there's malcus and paying you only pay so now we understand why ribosome didn't say like because rush lockers are saying like mayor and ruby wants to be with the rabbit like they come back in lucky rabbit hello i hold that in a case where if there would have been astra there would have been a warning they would have been potter so also in the case there is no astra and they go according to their own cheetos [Music] if you have a situation of me or malcolm and with that we finished have a wonderful day but i'm going to show you real quickly my son says that there's elephants there so let me see if i can find the elephants hold on it's pretty far he says let's see straight ahead where oh here yeah there are elephants here we go here's an elephant let me see if i could zoom in for the alum uh or let me hold on let me turn it around turn it around for some reason doesn't want to baby oh there's more here the elephants between the tree right over there right over here the question is why can't i i want to turn this around you