Daf Yomi Gittin Daf 24 by R’ Eli Stefansky

foreign [Music] it's very rare it happened maybe two or three times that an actual person from the sheer oh okay actual hustle from the sheer got married so I I usually don't like to go to Houston it's always but made an exception I'm just explaining how calm I didn't go to shops at Collins even though I'm a very very big fan of his well boys I came across this picture I thought it was an amazing picture here you see remember and Norm fix five years ago in my house and they sit exactly in the same spot today and the one with the long beard is Robbie Schoenberg when he was younger [Laughter] yeah we used to also come to these things I don't know you were there somewhere I don't know maybe closer to me you're you're right next to me so you need to make it in the picture but it's funny no it's the same setup the same okay this is the uh I used to do a synopsis on the seventh off of the of the week and I used to give out you look at the amount of food over there there's a lot of good food and they don't care for the food [Music] so today uh somebody sponsored in honor of David chapowitz from Chicago the famous little chocolates they're going but what I thought was interesting here that Joel whoa is who sponsors every month 200 he's putting up a booth in this show the healthcare show so I think it's an amazing thing yes it goes against the rules and he's always one dot ahead okay we have with us today a whole group a whole group of very literature looking guys from The Mirage what where's life from okay you learn in the mirror you all learning the mirror some like him what's your name beer like eating beer what's your name not you you're in the mirror okay what's your name tadek Aaron Weinberger okay also from the mayor would he live what's your name shmuel Fisher from Bar Park where Williamsburg I love it I'm having a lot of known I'm in a very very good mood oh what's your name I'm not gonna know that the BAM begin how do you spell it it's two words let's say you go to the passport place that's how it goes no if I can't say it okay you never went to the passport you have no other one calling them okay do you have do you have a license you have to go to the license plates when they call out your name you know for the eye test no it never happened okay it's hot last name no it was my school don't argue don't have to avoid you guys okay we have a little bit of a sheer here okay the island is very excited look what look what excitement brought us I'm in a great mood now so she didn't go easy but you guys all right thank you for all the hard work and dedication that goes into the sheer listen to this I thought this is a very interesting email I chose it specifically for this purpose so I'm gonna say what like about a week ago I wanted to say a joke a conservative joke a reform Joe I decided not to who knows who knows who's listening thank you for all the hard work and dedication that goes into this year you're bringing juice from all walks of life together to study and build I'm a conservative Rabbi when I was at you live share in Muncie last month attached there's a picture of us here's the picture you see hold on oh yes it was so moving to see no with black hat Jews and tattoo Jews in my row they're tattoo Jews and black-headed Jews we may all have different backgrounds where warm people I'm also dedicated to blowdone he's a blood donor and he sent me another picture of him donating blood while he's watching this year me learning donating is also attached thank you for inspired me to continue to learn and bringing this kahila together shabbat shalom Ephraim every race is sponsored by Anonymous from Lakewood the Mississippi that I'm able to thank him for everything that I have foreign success in all my endeavors hey title guard little Garrett hey title Garrick I make the best meat boards in town no I'm just kidding by schmelker Village of all her children and grandchildren are made Benjamin Bloomberg's mother belong 20th yard site next week in New Jersey on condition they check in to zoom to the zoom share okay I don't think we're gonna do Zoom today maybe and before for Davido daughter of the month for a complete reformsai we're holding under the base ivy uh is a shorter death and we're going to be all caught up we're holding by the gimbara it says that we discussed this that you have the five women you have the mother-in-law and the sister of the bowel of the husband his brother's wife his second wife these are all his own daughter that's a stepdaughter to his wife now the one in purple I don't like to call her by her name because of this five women that hate his his main wife or the wife we're talking about it's five women nevertheless the all believed to say that this get is an authentic get it's a good get they're not believed to say that the husband died that they witnessed that he died that they don't have any bonus because they hate her they hate her and they want to mess her up but in this case they're believed says right after the mission that they're not believed just like they're not believes to say that he died then I believe to say that he sent a get our mission that says that they believed is an energy stroll and we did not believe this is going to argue and say the exact opposite then of course they're believed in our Detroit monopolies [Music] that's why they believed foreign [Music] to get married to somebody else then the husband will come and say what's going on here I went on on a on a business trip I came back my wife is married to somebody else nothing the the get that there's no get I never gave a get and he's believed and she's gonna have to leave both husbands in other words I buy holes that were hoisters for Mama's deals were conscious that these women are gonna deliberately make up a get so therefore I may have not they shouldn't be believed married because they seem funny enough the husband doesn't have the right to come and say but that it's not a good guess so they're not going to be my calculator so much it's not going to be the end of the world she doesn't have to leave the marriage not believed so we have a Bryce like a bio that when these five women these Soros these co-wives the the sister-in-laws the the stepdaughters the bad women that hater when are they believed when they come from because it says a woman the mission that says we learned but we can learn from it says Rebecca that a woman is believed she can bring her own yet foreign when you have a woman who's not believed to say that so-and-so's husband died why are they not believed typically we believe a death hunt for aguna We Believe but we don't believe these women why because they hate her they're biased they're looking to ruin her life so we can't trust them yet at the same time we trust them to say that this is a good get the old wife is believed that her husband died and Redemption and Menace then certainly she should be she should be believed to say that he divorced me the voice I saw a crazy story you could look it up the guy's name is Donald Miller in 86 1986 he disappeared [Music] fight when he went so the wife went to court and after a few years they decided since this there's nothing nobody ever heard from him they looked and they searched can't find him did they cleared him dead dead so because he's dead so the family was was uh eligible for Social Security all sorts of payments that the government gave fast forward I don't know how many years now just recently he shows up and he goes to court and he says I'm alive so the judge looked at him and said no you're dead she's but I'm here he says no halahically legally you're dead you're dead that's it I can't do anything about it you're a dead man since the past and that he's dead so legally he's a dead man otherwise because if he comes back to life then to the wife and the kids would have to pay back all the Social Security payments retroactively so he considered a live man dead I just thought it's a fascinating a walking a live man dead okay huh don't don't repeat don't edit you're fine what oh you looked it up on Google Now Well you don't trust and everything else I said that's okay yeah is he dead now we're live what's the stock today yeah no but I'm saying legally is he dead or alive but anyways the wife is believed to say the husband is dead fine yeah yeah he's still deceased fascinating method is German not a Jew okay boss a mile island okay so now that we have this because like a buyer you say before foreign foreign foreign in other words she came in the mission that says that a woman brings a get and she has to say before and what do you have to say before and after because she came from the other case in the same mishnah of the five women that are that hate her also we're talking about and they and that's why you say before I left them and we're talking about so these women that hate the wife when they come from quotes large they have to say do we trust them when we don't trust them well our body says we trust them in the other case this is no I'm just talking about Earth Israel I the other part of the mishnah says before enough which means the first navigation so the last part of the mishna is talking about right a woman is believed when she comes from there's Israel she's believed to say this is my get provided that she says the the previous case in the same ish now the beginning of the mishna the five women that are believed let's talk about Earth Israel a quarter of Joseph so having the same missionaries is thrown quotes Lords says the guimara um so I just want to show you real quickly this is what I gave our unbelievable artist Yoshi I just gave them to him I said make it look a little better please it has the words exactly what he wrote I think but mine was not so pretty I did like purple I try to stick out huslars and huslars I knew it wasn't I did in three minutes I said do something so here this is his I like it a lot more the ratio where it says the mission before and it says remember everybody's allowed to bring again so once a Suma has to say before and he can't say it because what he's blind the whole problem of the Sumo what's the problem he's blind but he has dance but he can't say he couldn't witness it but who says before enough foreign next case the five women who are believed says review is talking about Earth Israel that's why they believe because if the lawyers we can't trust them we don't trust them so it comes out we have Hustlers there's Israel and then in that same mission of the safer says that the woman herself brings a get and but she has to say before I never means it's good so it doesn't doesn't go so well to say that we're talking about hutzlars then we we switch over to this road then we switch back to khushlords doesn't flow well as the gamara race in yeah we have no choice but that's how we're gonna have to do it so what's what's the proof what's reversive's proof here we're talking about Earth is here it says what is the difference so how come these five women are not believed to say that he died but yes believed to say that he divorced because they show up with the gifts here okay fine he says because it should say in the mission of that they have to say something about the same foreign is that one of the cases not only are they saying it they're bringing a document to prove it so the mission didn't have to say that they're saying it that was the question my veins what is the difference in the two cases that they're talking is because it's talking about case and the mid on that the mission answers because again there's a document in addition to just the case of the guy dying so it says in the mission that a woman could bring her own get now what exactly happened just bring your own get no think about it what happened what what case can you come up with she came from from Israel and she's holding your get and what happened she's a schlier she got it in she's asleep what is she what happened believe it or not there are seven possibilities there seven so let's just go through them quickly and then the gamara will be uh much easier first option is the worst one she received a gift from her husband in in hutzlars and now she's coming to Arizona okay so she's already divorced large so why does she have to say okay that doesn't even start perhaps the husband said no you know what I want you out of here I live in America I live in England South Africa I don't want you here go as far as you can go go all the way towards this roll if you do that for me I'll give you get when you get there get it that also doesn't work so well so who gave her the get when she got there to throw she's carrying the gift now somebody has to give it to her that's to be in the C note so you know what maybe he told her when you get there just well put it on the floor put on the floor and then pick it up from the floor that also doesn't work maybe he says to get more in the on the in the we're holding by the gold maybe he told her when you get there this Israel you flip into sleep like that also doesn't work so then maybe he told her in green on top he told her yes when you get there it's a straw make somebody else no that doesn't well could yes not we'll see different so some of these are good answers for some people for some or he told her you go and when you get there it's wrong make somebody else make Ruben make another man make somebody else anybody another and finally the same kind of answer it's almost identical though he said bring this to the best then and best then we'll make another so when the mission says that the woman shows up with a get 30 straw and she has it's not as simple as we just read it there's so many options so many different things that could go wrong here so what exactly is it and on the way we're going to see different allahas different concepts like 10 lines down if you just said here here's your get go there it's wrong so the second he gave her the get she became divorced obviously that's not the case no you made a condition again we said this like he really doesn't want her next to him in the same city it's not good when you go to that other place called Iris Israel then you'll become divorced Ure [Music] so what do you saying look you have law also what who says Lord the art scroll is okay fine oh we could go back to this why not so so if he tells you when you get there you're getting divorced so there's no schlichos here we're not talking about it's just a denying to get you do five jumping jacks you become divorced when you get that yourself you come divorced it's not about Sleepless awesome put it down on the ground and pick it up from the ground foreign [Music] oh I forgot there's uh there's a few pictures there so when you get there it's a troll you become divorced no good so what do you say he said put on the ground that's what we're holding now it says because somebody that's the the husband has to put it in her hand or the shliff doesn't puts it in her head and doesn't mean you can't tell somebody you see that get over there go take it from that shelf that doesn't work by the way another interesting somewhat similar Allah is that by stuck also you should give an awesome you should give it in the person's hand sometimes I'm I'm over on it like if I'm busy or I see guys as a take over there I have you know money or people don't want to be disturbed during the Avenue they put it on the table next to them and then you know even somebody that dives here often and he has a little sign take x amount of money from my pile okay that's because he's diving whatever but it should be in a scene in the hand you should give it uh about the that you could edit and make a whole Spiel out of business [Music] so what happened was he said listen you are here you see this is and then you flip the same person flips into this is the tomorrow hello and you accept the guest from yourself that can't work why well because to come back and tell the husband the Michelle what happened that's the report back she cannot report back so therefore as Rashi says they are lotion um she becomes a balm Isis rationally she she becomes too involved she becomes bi she becomes she she cannot report to the husband I did what you told me to do because she interacted with herself she gave it to herself so she's going to report to the husband as a side thing sorry no that's that's that's the next step like she'll make another kind of thing yeah it's too much of a there's a I heard this a number of times from people by Republican I'm sure it happens to a lot of doylem that people come for broadcast you know what is this that and they diving for them and it hurts them a lot but they fail many times to come back and report back and say you know I gotta look I gotta this you even don't want to hear this the big people want to hear it it's they don't want to just hear the tsars it's it's important for us to report back huh I sing all the Moves In Here Also report back to my son that's not what I meant but okay that's why they send the emails they report back it doesn't happen that often unfortunately you know what you had to pay for that Memphis for him to get up and say with all all seriousness nine months later yeah foreign [Music] we have a problem that's okay give it to another state that is but if you can't give it then you can't say that that's the case but let's think about it for a second if you know the logic behind the halacha you could understand whether or not it applies here the husband who's who sends a get he doesn't want to be disrespected and he takes it as a disrespect is it this what I'm sending a guest and you're not even harsh enough to take it from me you're sending somebody out you know you don't even open up the front door you send your kid to take it that's and that if you did that I'm not giving you the gift I never had intent to do it like that that's in a typical case but that doesn't apply to us over here the husband made her the to make it he's the one that that instituted it he's the one that said it should be like that so why would he be disrespected if the husband puts a get in his friend's backyard so basically what he's trying to say is that this maybe that's what he's trying to do and when the wife she purchased it or she receives that friend's hotter she's trying to say that and obviously a hotter can't be a Schleich a works as a yard as an extension of one's pen not as as a as an agent a messenger for somebody else so that doesn't work but if you say that our case would work that one goes to another so people are going to get mixed up they're going to say that that case with the with the concert does work also it looks similar it operates in a similar way okay [Music] you should be here we go another case you should be a chef until you get there and then you make and you make a snake that's okay you can't make it because we said that doesn't work luckily it's not good and we have different reasons either because the Brazilian or because you're going to confuse it with another case but to make to make another you can do and that's the final thing because then you turn around and you receive the woman in purple first she makes some guy Ashley and then that guy turns around and he gives her the get that okay over here we don't have a crash of clutter it's not diamonds hotter now Raja says here that when she makes that man she has to do it in front of a business and she has to say that's when she says now when she receives it from him but when she gives it Allah a very very similar answers asks why do you need the two they're very simple none of them first doesn't says you bring it to the third is also and we get there is enough time foreign I don't know if you noticed the first paragraph has the same exact name as this perk I maybe get and this I maybe get twice as even sets of maybe get Cheney I don't know maybe a chainey Colgate absolutely oh sponsored by Yoli Friedman this was my dear father I'm from Charlotte okay it says in the apostles law super Christmas right we're going over this supposedly over and over and over but many different parts of the possible because of Allah when you write a get you have to have in mind this particular woman so if it wasn't written for this woman possible oh yeah we brought this Mission yesterday as a costume we went according to Belize okay okay he walks by a place and he hears a guy saying ruvain is divorcing Leia and he says to himself you know I never wanted to divorce my wife but this is a sign from Hashem that is your divorce my wife what what are the what are the chances she's Mama's perfect but if that's what they say yeah so he walks and then he says did I hear right and the guy says yeah you heard right how much is it he says it's free just take it he says give up okay what are the two what are the chances possibly garbage boy it doesn't work now the mishna adds steps and the gamar is going to say each step what it is I'll tell you what the step is over here over here she was made to get his was a good get that had the right with Shema in it but for the wrong person the first case is not the Shema a guy was writing that's what he's going to say yeah I was writing he was learning how to write again but over here is written for a get just not the right wife it just happens to be your wife has the same name huh guy was writing a get and he had a very popular like you know if you're in sapner you're yoil and then the chances are I don't know what the rabbit's name was how many oils are there millions and how many revenants divorcing what's what's good so so the chances are super high okay so a guy did and then he said you know what I don't want to divorce her o no it's not fine you get but we don't have like they won't do the rabbits in so much so that's okay okay sponsored by your family if our sisters will come and lay your boss think about it yeah and they both come flying like it's not your volume but he married women two wives of the same exact name hamster B the reviews says that it's Usher to marry a second after you divorce your first wife you should have married another woman with the same name as the first wife so they asked from the submission over here you see you could even be married no it's different because when you're married to one wife to the second wife you might be thinking about your first wife that's awesome but you're married to two women then you don't have the type or whatever it's it's not a problem if he wrote a get for one of them any one of them but he had in mind this one the dialogue the heavy one no I'm just kidding the just believe that's bad don't edit it came out it was a kiss from Russia okay I was just explaining why that edit wow what color am I sorry here's my guy he wanted to be McGarry it's the older one I'm against the older one the younger one one of them the guys yes no no yesterday you could edit please yes I don't know I don't know who to divorce so Mandy told me he he had in remembrance two houses two apartments once and he had to get rid of one he had to raise some money but he didn't know what to do which one he said I'm selling both of them whichever one they take I'm putting both of them in the market whichever one goes first I'm taking yeah he has two two wives he has to downsize it's okay it's not good I don't know which one which whichever one misbehaves first that's it so he tells the he goes running to the cipher make me get outside later that's called the virus could you be my later on who who it is the mission says no Apostolic Irish boy you can't or a guy's time a guy goes to The Cypher he has his wives are not behaving he thinks they're not bathing he says you know what he comes with the guy he says listen the first one I'm gonna use this against you he doesn't know which one again they have the same name obviously same case says that says so I just want to show you the real quick so you don't have to go back it says in the ratio like this here you don't have to look in the mission you can look over here that's the whole Smacker over I just wrote A guy walks in the in the marketplace and he hears he hears the cipher writing the same name the same same name same place same everything the mission says he can't use it and that says a second later that a person wrote a get for his own wife so second person can't use it but what's the difference between the two cases okay he's walking the marketplace somebody wrote a get for not his wife for a different wife so you can't use it and the second case is somebody wrote a gift for his wife so a second person can't use it it's the same exact case says no we already explained it that's why you're not understanding the question all right Papa beside from no the first case they weren't even writing it for a get they were writing it for training purposes only um somebody's telling them how to write it we're like Tony sorry from Korean when you're a cipher and you're writing films again nobody's standing next to you reading it to you you read it to yourself you know what you're doing over there we're talking about in a school a school for ciphering and a boy said you should know the school for Cypher and even sofram have to dot they have certificates and it's very important that you buy things I'm not just should buy from a Soviet as a certificate why because there's a lot of minor Allah that are very major and if you don't know everything clearly there's a guy amazing a guy said I want to write magillas because Magilla there's not a lot of this and that everything so he wrote six McGillis and then he found out that you have to write it and if you don't it's puzzled and he didn't and he had to go find the six people that bought the mcgills and he couldn't find them I think one of them like they said a secret another secretary's got so that's why you have to be very careful with these Allah something called like that and he didn't know that they did uh they did a thing they took a bunch of stuff from and they said okay we're gonna give everybody a certificate and they asked them basic halachas and many many of them failed the tests senior uh experience Cypher so it's not so partial okay so when you buy save a tired of this make sure the guy knows the result yeah so the murder says my awesome again what are the four steps in the mission there's four different stories obviously each one gives us another Allah on top of the other baby hello here we have step number one is that the guy just wrote for no reason just to train himself how to write so it's not even forget it's time for writing Village in the day so now here's the next cases that this guy wrote it for the woman in purple and it turns out it's not even that it's a different case it was it was two different a different couple used it so that's a bigger though because it was written Le Shema was written for a divorce just the couples the wrong couple ization even such a case apostle so over here it's interesting it is written for the husband just he has two wives of the same name Hillary best Bill Hillary best Bill the ball even though you shot me ladies Hillary it's a funny how about the Zach yeah I'm saying the Stick of Gears whatever Bill the years the the you xiaomi no but to have a chicken hanging out of your uh cart like that that you have to you have to be born like that it's not my timer my time what's going on if you're saying because it says impossible you have to give you have to write give a resource I think the first first case that it was written by a cipher learning and training it wasn't written for Christos that's why it's not good avocado but if he wrote it for again left and he decided not to divorce his wife double to increase so that was done properly a mccusher maybe another couple could use it because of the husband must write the guide so the husband not another husband the husband of this divorcee has the right to get or at least ah what no no to say that you should write it for me well a guy can't just write again and say hey guys ah okay okay now you're getting into the detail okay fine because of that the husband has to do it obviously stay nothing but if he has two wives like this case Diego Costa Law he was because of he wrote it well you just didn't write which woman Emma kosher because of Allah what about the last case where he said just write me a gift for one of my wives I'll decide which one it is so real quickly I think I said this once before I gotta tell you this again it's very very important you're sitting at the Shabbos meal I'll explain to you in a second why I'm saying this might seal here senior shots meal and my daughter my daughter uh she has two children works on herself a lot she learns a lot about and once in a while she gives me a little bit of a stalk you know like you old geezers and you have the old style you know and you didn't have what we have or the tools and exactly I said this already do a lot of YouTube and a lot of research and a lot of they have a lot of very very it's not tried and true like they don't know yet what the results are going to be because nobody did it yet but it's 100 much better than our system because it just is all the psychologists agree to it and all the robotic agreed to it so I said listen if you don't know what RTC is then don't even don't even talk to me she says what's RTC I said retroactive trauma clarification she goes what I said retroactive travel clarification boys if you don't know what that is then yeah yeah you don't even begin you have to know what that is first you know what happened that morning I was learning and I said in chair and I looked in the art scroll so what's retroactive clarification so I said you know what this is marketing I'm going to use those two words and and Mama's throw her off completely just threw in trauma because that's you know it's all about trauma and the the whole thing trauma retro travel clarification she's my she's Blown Away about my ideas and since then she has a lot of uh coverage for me in my candles she doesn't have those tools she doesn't know how to deal with retroactive trauma clarification okay but Lamesa serious so yeah me if you didn't hear that he said he could see why she didn't yeah okay fine the battle line bravery means retroactive clarification meaning can a person go and tell a cipher write me the get tomorrow I'll decide what the Shema this get was done for retroactively I'm going to clarify and say it's a beautiful lotion I I couldn't yeah clarification doesn't work you know you have what I'm saying right you guys have okay it's not it's not like in our vernacular is that the okay that's also not a word that we fine Lamesa you cannot decide that's what the mission is the mission is you have two wives you can't tell the story write me again and they'll say tomorrow what the Shema even though they have the same name I'm gonna decide it's Leia the older one is a