Daf Yomi Gittin Daf 19 by R’ Eli Stefansky

good morning Rob boys this is Mordecai check this out everybody [Music] guys check this out fresh fresh stuff going down here you want to get dirty [Music] opening this up wow Mordechai Birdman an adult another cult member a father so good cult a cult member I was looking for a Silverback but he only made it for Shabbos hello awesome comes here to make whatever you want best of the best look at the quality of this thing well it is beautiful beautiful [Music] wow all right I've been a member from the Washington Sumo I was learning the them except for my sons Bar Mitzvah enjoying the fioimi then see what them do I have to deal with mdy ever since my next Sons bar Mrs coming up this PESA I wanted to have it at the hotel but it may not work out first which is the third day of pesach so we're going to celebrate it right after Dakota I wanted to know if we can have his boy by yo I'm at the mdy meeting that morning if so how do we go about arranging it please let me know I'm laughing only because my son's barmist is like in a month and a half and my wife asked me if I did anything yet zero no Hall no the guard he didn't start laning I'm not kidding and this individual is preparing for after peso this is very I don't want my wife to see this email well unfortunately I'm not going to be here usually how we felderman I'm not going to beer like during usually I'm in hutzler you're welcome to come here everybody's welcome to comment there's a little bit of confusion we get like emails every week you come without reserving a seat this is the guest seat right over here you come whenever you want we're on 9 in German come one come all and I don't know what it means by the boys like he wants to land or something but whatever we'll accommodate 100 show up dear belly the story told me something about Mr Brands offer who was insulted by the the insulted the the guy in southern he gave him a hundred dollars was incredible you have no idea how the story has helped someone I know but I suffer from verbal abuse and the story has opened his eyes and given him a tremendous exactly what was needed what's your name or what back from yeah where's Ben where's his dad have a seat you're in the you're in the special seat not consults received wow so tell them that we really miss him and we hope that he comes back you get it he comes back uh Insurance because it's exactly what we needed in the camera right there is loving every sheer I wrote in last week and told that story you kind of read my letter I'm brand new to this year committed listening every day I should be entitled to freaking bottom I heard someone ask if you can get a freaking more without them they want inscription but this question is different basically wants to know he has a full art school shot she wants to know if he's entitled to get modern answer is yes we don't look in your closet and see what you have but you don't have as long as you don't try to sell it afterwards on eBay we're good and for those that attend the language here and still don't get the binding jokes always continue with giving this inspiring share but boys I want to show you something amazing Rafal the barber seems like he's a little taken aback by the fact that parents can't live in uh what's his last name [Music] it has over a thousand people that he signed up and rafalgar was the the first one and you know the race is on here he is right now in the pizza shop what is it Benji's Pizza you sure yeah we'll follow Barbara Benji's pizza but how do I know it's right now because every five minutes he sends me another picture I was sitting down here it was already 7 15 I started putting in more pictures check this out these are the people he's signing up at the whole family on the left here's more people okay and that that's all I put in there the boys say check this out some volume it's not funny you mentioned yesterday the gamara says in English it's called [Music] how do you say ventriloquist yes ventriloquist yes like like what he said so I would like to thank you thank you for the wonderful cure beautiful the coil sponsored by an artist from Lakewood Hashem that I'm able to thank you for everything that I have the best yes family the art of the month foreign you can write a get with any kind of ink with joy ink so to start off with this is what Rabbi Schoenberg claims is ink in those days is to take one of these and mix it with water until it became some liquidy you could buy it today on Amazon he says if you want to try it out here it is what it's a ink black solid ink they didn't sell it like today you know like in liquid form this is how it was back in the day like this okay right with that Bassam with paint the sikrol with some red stuff is according to Art scroll copper sulfate here we go huh ferrous sulfate not this cuso 4 but yeah what what do you know about this stuff you guys are out of this year fine next anything that is lasting in koisman but you cannot write with little bit mashkin now with liquids will it be made payrolls not with juices reliables and things that don't last hearing Israel there were hospitals they used to write with um ink that used to disappear invisible ink not so much it will become invisible after like 24 hours so they write down and after a while after 24 hours they disappear and that's a little bit better for Shabbos computer's not bad right today they have also the the going into it they have different ways you write it on everything even even on a small leaf here something like this you could write you could write a whole get on Allah is if you could do this world's smallest Bible the size of a grain of sugar some Israeli guy put the entire Tanakh on something the size of sugar with a nano whatever so you can certainly write a get on other Society what if it's not cover obviously it's not cover you see like this picture not the Hoover what oh the Nano's not CV yeah if you can't listen if you can't see with your eye you could even I mean you're not Hive on eating a bug that you can't see with your eyes so it's not yeah this you could you might be able to grain of grain of uh of auras of rice yeah the Prima goddam he wrote his whole safer on tiny little pieces of paper he didn't have money so he would just write a very very small pieces of paper foreign and on the Horn of a cow oh here we go we're on my side [Music] who cares the stomach there it is and you just have to give her the cow what's shot in the cow I don't know it's just my own thing maybe it's like a cinnamon like he says listen you're milking me like a cow here's a get kind of thing on the hand of a slave don't treat me like a slave here's your get the noise here we go oh oh yeah the avid but he has to give her the slave not a great deal it's better it's cheaper just to give a piece of paper and show me Israel reviews you cannot write a get on a cow or on a slave and not even on a leaf of a of an olive it's considered oil in a way animals could eat it so you can't write a get on either of these things Inc the black something like this okay the Sabers uh Sam to paint some secret what's this red all right that's its name red Queen it's like an Arabic gum thank copper sulfate but not with the c with the E over our heart of this coffee it's the the shoemakers use it for shoe polish to make the shoes really black foreign if you write it with water that comes from the downspout of a roof so it's dirty so you're able it's still you can see it's knicker the sav will be knicker kosher oh hold on a heavier picture of Sam Soma yellow arsenic okay imagine this one that's Samsung this one is Walnut juice it says over your golden oil golden juice fine or if you ground up lead and you roll with it charcoal or the shoe the shoe uh The shoemaker's Shoe Palace kosher okay a very interesting sugier you have a piece of paper that has red ink on it and you go over the red use the red as your outline you want to trace it so you you have red you go over it with black numbers I'll show you Yoshi did a very nice thing here also in the next part both of them holes Roberto stockings no argument here last night we had four or five arguments between today everybody's in agreement higher Stein you're erasing the red by putting on the black and you're also writing so typically in order to be over on Mexico and Chavez you don't just erase it with a eraser in order you have to erase it in in order to write over here is perfect to be over the perfect aveira you erase the red in order to write a better and stronger one which is black so by one Siva you did toaveras Mexico what about ink on top of ink black on top of black secret Agave secret red on top of red Potter you hear this if you take black ink and you just go over a black letter first of all you certainly didn't erase anything because it was black to begin with it's black now and they didn't write anything because you didn't add anything it was black before it's black now so let me ask you a question then what if you have a whole entire get that was not written and you take your pen you dip it in we just said that if you go black on black zero you're not Hive on shops you take your black ink and you go over each and every letter on the get thinking Le Shema of this woman or not on the Gabi Shabbos 100 you aren't over anything it's zero I'm probably not a good idea but with the rice that's not exceeded what if you go over it with intent of the Shema you say it is good anybody agree it is good so the gemara says according to rabihuda it's considered as Tysons but he didn't do anything he says yeah when he came to Shabbos he didn't do anything zero but when it comes to the Shema he added one to the words see they do something okay foreign at the end of the day he erased the black and made it red now why didn't he why isn't he over on writing it was black before and now it's red he wrote what also yeah but it's a different color if he goes black on red is he high for writing Yes red on black he's not high of why because it's a weaker South he didn't add anything he took away but yes he erased the black it doesn't matter that's my fault right now you it's not there anymore for now I bet you if you scratched it off you're over on my click on the scratching of the black to get to the red you can get it and of course exactly you're this by destroying by anytime akako bashabas your Potter if you destroy something in Shabbos your Potter with the rice so by putting the red on top of the black you're destroying the black you're not me you're not my name is a guy that doesn't know how to write his name is illiterate doesn't know how to write what's the halacha if we do something like this first and he's not here today he didn't appreciate it he made him a call probably so [Music] he's an aide is it okay for us to just do the outline in red and the aid will sign his name on top of except is it's not considered excav so what's the obvious question you just told us that if somebody does this exact thing on Chavez he's over on two things he's erasing the red and writing black he's over on Siva America when it comes to aidos you tell me it's not edus a so he says listen I never said that if somebody does this exact act that writes black on top of red that he has to bring a carbon in the base of English I'm not that sure of myself foreign what I said is you have to stay away from writing like that it might be Steve it might be Mexico so certainly don't use that foreign I don't even know if on Chavez I would make him go bring a carbon I said he's Hive too but not literally go out and bring a carbon away some English that's I guess what we're Sluggers wanted to hear from him hey that doesn't know how to sign rabbit um RAV says you according to rash we had this already in the merciful you etch out you you scrape the the the claf and they knows how to fill it out um so we do have something I'm not 100 happy with this because this is more like the other Isha name here let's go back this is how Yoshi did it without asking me okay basically he takes uh exacto knife and cuts out the name and then it's like a stencil it takes another piece of paper it's a beautiful job here but this is the other reason I'm not Rashi and everybody says that if you do it exactly in the stencil then you can't you can't check the 80s later it's not mine I didn't sign it I just copy what you do it she has to do it a little bit smaller than the actual stencil they explain also maybe in Rashi is the same thing that you etch out the paper but you do it a little bit less than the edge foreign is like a pencil you take lead a pencil and you just write on and then he goes with the with a pen with a real pen and goes over it huh pencils graphite in your days graphite today it's lead the opposite I know I know I know I know so how would that be it working that's exactly what I'm saying though that's what they asked nobody knows it's a signature so he has to go a little bit of more than that this illiterate person doesn't know how to write he has his own way of imitating other people's writing when they go like this he goes a little bit thicker and a little bit out of the line he has his own style oh good question I hear this is how is anybody going to recognize it later the question is if he recognizes it because he but what you're right nobody will have to do that be himself recognizes what he did he says yeah that was my me I could I I could tell from the mess-ups even in kindergarten they held me back a couple years because I didn't go within the line here that's exactly where yeah okay his genius they held him back because of that because he didn't he didn't know how to I think that's what he said no sell back even him you see him he can learn a lesson he was looking to be like or something with a pencil you go over the pencil of Antonio all these things you use a pencil he used lead or coals or Shoe Palace kosher so the guy who signed the name he was already he already signed the signature you can't go on top of that and make a new signature when Kashi says it's very interesting let's say this is lead if you go like this the guitar says it's not it's not good it's not a good signature so you can go over it why because it'll come off but if you take this and you mix it with water and you liquefy it then it'll be a much stronger you take you take a lead and you mix it with water now it becomes ink that sticks to the cloth that's already what we're talking about that's kosher and on top of kosher you don't want to write somebody else's signature it's not going to work again we're going back to the golden juice I think I might have it here again why not you talking about guano juice the what is that what we that know how to write we did a little bit golden juice on a piece of paper and he came the a that doesn't know how to write he went over it but we just said I thought this kosher rain water from the roof dirty water and I thought so is kosher so the best thing they did at Fatso they ruined the get they did a kosher signature Hall the app it's when the actual clef this is not a good example but in those days they used to use Gallant on the cloth to produce the cloth and then on top of that they would write now if you're going to write goal nut ink on top of golnut cloth what is it going to look like nothing's going to be invisible you can't tell that there's any if you used Walnut to make the clouds it's really really dark claf and then you come with a dark similar color and you go on top of it's nothing outfits but if they didn't use garnet then it is okay we're talking about a case that they produce the cloth with Golan comes the best then and they go going on top of golner so that's nothing that's not a good signature comes the guy the illiterate guy and he doesn't understand his name he goes on top of what the president did that's okay that's a good signature because the signature if the bezen was not visible at all oh yeah and you can't do gold on the type of Goleta it's pretty nasty a little spit and he copied the spit there was a papa who's who's into the he had a lot of Acts whatever he did with the action so he told he told papa papa used you have a guy that's illiterate take the the spit and go over go over the spit let him right on top of this so we always have it's over and over the same Allah when it comes to get why because here's a guy a bad guy he's running away toots Lawrence he's about to leave his wife in aguna he says here's a get we look around we have a bunch of illiterate people working in the airport I don't know you know these guys this is come come sign here he spits on the thing side if you don't allow the spitting you don't allow the the the the the the stencils the guys off on the next flight and his wife is an aguna for life so we're not we're we're making for agunas we we allow all these funny things for naguna staras you owe me a million dollars go find the guy a normal guy that knows how to sign his own name doesn't have to stencil it there's a story where they used on a regular star IOU star the used imitation signature they use an illiterate vinagdiraf Kahana took him and beat him up your Testament base sponsored by the Friedman family for our sisters the Himalaya Bassey we're not doing Zuma are we no no trying we gotta if we're gonna do we're gonna do it well you know how to do it a voice like Dave sharpen in the house because of Remy is not feeling that well and Gary has his day off Dave Sharpton trying out Dave shot you want to try let's go oh well that's very good matthus how do you know that's Mathis I was here many times all right Rebecca show my life and go I can't hear you who's on mute he's on mute one minute you're a mute mantis now you're not a mute no you're not a mute [Music] Mendy Mendy's tomorrow Monday's going to join us Zoom live tomorrow from this house all right you're on mute let's hear go no okay we love you on Zoom you should keep on going and zoom and basically tomorrow and Gary's here we'll get it right okay now you can lower it a little bit um yeah that was it was unintentional I think we'll see the RAV so RAV says that we scratch out on the on the cloth we scratch out a name and he said the the guy who doesn't understand his name just follows the scratch we have a Bryce that says like crap what do we do if you have a that doesn't know how to sign his name um this is there was a time and place where client Israel there were a lot of amarettes and they didn't know how to read they didn't know how to write I think just up until just almost recent you know 200 years ago girls didn't know how to read they did not read lotion it was a they had a little remember Cinderella um okay so what do you do you etch the thing or according to tices you cut it out with exacto knife fight I'm assuming again this is a special cooler that was said by get absolutely stories by Evan and Other ious Stories whatever this is a problem who's talking about reading we're talking about writing okay if they're not a read and write then they could sign whoever again this uh that we had already whoever spoke about reading this is remember you're right it's missing a few words if a doesn't know how to read we tell them what it says over there in other words let's say he saw the actual get happening he saw a divorce he just doesn't know exactly what it says there we read it for him he said oh it says Sunday this of Sivan Etc okay so he knows that it's good but he saw the actual Act of the get and if he does another sign so we etched the paper for him and he signs on the etching beginning now we said already this is again it's a special Allah that women of cloud Israel shouldn't be left without husbands without a get we're making we're worried we're concerned that this is that our last opportunity we'll never see this guy again so we'll do whatever he can do to make the get work um that you could etch it and have a eight sign is only by a get not by other stars [Music] in other words it works on everything on All Stars welcome man right the last line that we had on normal somebody that tried that tried to trick out on a regular style they got beat up CC doesn't work on other stories you have to say the word of God said was on here it goes like this just on reading says that all stories including get a Aid could write could could fill it in after you etch it out of it she was saying no that's only by for reading for reading purposes but they need to know how to sign the mailer what happened over there by Kahana they didn't know how to sign and they signed so he beat them up but Allah is like in other stories for reading purposes if you have a regular star let's say you want to set uh release your event and the guy doesn't know how to read he knows that assignment he doesn't want to read says it's fine you read it for him and it's good but he has to know how to sign he just doesn't have to know how to read tigumar Korea so we have two things if he doesn't know how to read it's okay but if he doesn't write a sign it's not okay and rafta Hannah beat up the one that wanted to allow it even for the signing says Gamora Mysore have you done reviewed it was old it was very hard for him to read but he forced himself he would take the piece of paper put it up against his eye see what if he can read it by himself he didn't want other people to read for him so much why are you straining your eyes are murderers Israel the master of Earth's Israel kurukame they would read for him because him and he would sign himself would sign on something somebody else read says the cipherim of the day on them you know the court has special writers what is it called today stenographers but that's the guy the people that do this okay so the people know how to write shorthand not short and whatever they they wrote for the theatum so you have a combination you have revnachman you have suffered the dino it's very important it's when you have this combination of someone and somebody like esophage this new aim sawashi revnakman was the son-in-law of the Nazi of the rage gaulas and the the sun being a son-in-law he appointed him to be the diet so nobody would start off with him if anybody off with his head which goals were tough people so you have ravnakman who people fear Him and you also have the Sanford that I know the the the special scribe of the judges if you have a different combination and some other guy that's writing or Safra dayone or the special scribes stenographers whatever they're called who wasn't appointed by his own schwer who happened to be the rojgaros it doesn't work need that special combination of two Republic what about revelozo ah I hear I don't know more than say why Republic story person when a star was written in Persian it was done in the non-jewish courts macrola we bring two it says because the the sensor took out the word and put him it's a fake word it means an angel we will see a little bit too much in other words you go over to someone that speaks the language and you say could you please read it to me somebody sent me a letter you don't say why you don't say hey so you want to see if it's accurate if he's if the guy doesn't make it up he doesn't realize why he's reading it he doesn't know the real reason he stops he's reading it's we could trust him that that's what it says in another language and it was so powerful he he trusted the non-jew to tell him what it says in a in Persian that he was able to collect the the fields that were sold afterwards if somebody went ahead and bought a karka and it was he bought it after this document was signed he would take it out of them two different items at two different times two different games two different times yeah as Rashi what we just learned in the first parag that you could only when you have a Persian document you're talking about per se you only collect from not miss true bottom not you can't collect from so he says over there we weren't talking about that was done in the court system over here it's done in a court system yes it's a non-jewish court but even a non-jewish court has a call everybody knows not to not to buy that piece of property you should have should have been careful when you bought the property everybody knows that's already out actually um you have a Persian document they have Jewish Chinese you could collect from Real Estate we had the sauce word for word but they don't know how to read it it's in Persian the Jews know how to read the person well you need how could it be in a document that's from a non-jew source you need a special document that you can't forge with that feeds on using golden juice and the whole cloth was made in guangat you can't forge it because once you start erasing then you're racing the dark uh material on it or whatever and you can see that somebody forged it well I mean you need It's Made In in Iran no they don't they don't do what we do like although at the end of the start has to repeat the whole thing says there yes they did repeat the whole Star Development commercials the Coalition culture that you could you could write a star in Persian tanino we already learned that is if the actual get was written in Los Angeles the Siamese were in Greek and we'll see what that means exactly Yvonne it's not today Yvonne is and if the whole star the whole get was written in Greek but it was signed in Los Angeles so we know that any language is cultural what do I need to say it again again going back to the smarter that is a special spot by aguna but I think that does that that Allah doesn't apply that you could write in any lotion you want even to to release your slave or IOU commercial on it works for All Stars person gives his wife a blank document and says this is your get luguration blankets I'm concerned that perhaps he wrote in Target with golden juice and it disappeared disappearing ink Mayfair is just points out how do you do without goal nut how do you make the he made it out of grass a different type of pill wait a minute here's you get she takes the get she's so upset she throws into the ocean she throws it into the fireplace first he says listen I'm divorcing you she he sees how upset she is she starts screaming throws into the fight yeah I was just messing around it wasn't it wasn't a get it was a start passing it says over there that somebody owes me a million dollars he went his best friend and tells his best friend listen do me a favor I want to look like I have some money I'm going to show people that you owe me a million dollars I'll never you know me I know you a fake star so he tells her basically it was a fake now could he do that he already he already told her you're divorced here's a get a second lady says oh no it wasn't a get it was a start passing too late she's already divorced staramana again it's the same thing but then in the reverse I owe you a million dollars but you never gave me the million dollars I give it to you say good morning she's divorced velocity and he cannot say that it's not a gift says because you could actually read what it says but if he gave her a blank document not so how come over here now we're saying on a blank document it works so the article says there's a violet die some sort of they have it today where you do this invisible ink stuff and they come with a violet light you come with something and you could see it actually have it here here huh I wanted to I wanted to they they sell these things here you see this I did it but uh it's not I don't know if it's gonna work like it could be also I need some water hello I don't know if this will Bemis oh it's working a little bit I'm just easier for your phone I don't know if that'll work yeah no it's not working no good okay anyways didn't really work it's supposed to say wow it seems unbelievable first fail in all these years it's supposed to say get I don't know if you could see right over here but okay oh yeah but in the back you could be yeah and that's because that's because it went through nothing to do with anything okay you know I'm talking about the visible ink stuff says it was invisible but now now obviously when he gave her the get it couldn't be invisible you can't tell somebody here's an invisible in get and if you do this and this and that it has to be that was visible and today we just don't see it so we're gonna do it says if the the goal nut comes out great we like poet laugh Clum says who cares that now you could see it High School de Paul maybe just popped out now says you're right maybe it just came out now but I have to be concerned that maybe you were able to see it then somebody she's divorced and not divorced she's one of these Suffolk divorcees in other words you don't she cannot be missing if she falls to her brother-in-law he can't beat Miami has to give her Etc all right there were two people who witnessed again they didn't sign the get they were Aiden masira they witnessed again they must read the get Mason we just read that if here's your dad she throws it into the ocean because Obama started and then he said oh by the way it's not even again it's uh you a fake I owe you styromanu Etc she's divorcedural asking about a very simple question if the two ate them read it how in the world could the husband say oh by the way I didn't give you a get what I gave you was a was the IOU what are you in the two of them Reddit he could say whatever he wants to say he can't he's not believed against to weigh them what's the guy okay so says good boy what happened was that he he did like a sleight of hand like a magic sort of or it could be he was doing magic he took the get and he put it in the sleeve or something and he went like this he put it over here and then the second lady oh here and he gave it there so we don't know for sure if what he's giving her is the original one that they read or something else okay let's go to the boss of the car you guys maybe he switched it out commercial on that have a wonderful day