Daf Yomi Eruvin Daf 78 by R’ Eli Stefansky

how's everybody doing today's cheer leader nicholas mordecai is the reason why i don't hear anybody okay everybody's muted gevaldic um today's share sponsored by avi again i think again therefore for edward ben suzette okay also good and sponsored by jeffrey haskell does anybody have jewish names here a boy's side what's going on here mark you have a jewish name jeffrey haskell for the 30th yard side of my father khayim bin david oh he was a jew and david shama have an aliyah listen to this i like this one he wrote this is for the illustration of my father herb haskell oh he also called herbert on his 30th yard side i owe my entire learning to my father who sacrificed a great deal to provide me with a higher education that he never had in his striving to pass on australia kitzer he strived to pass on the messiah so thanks jeff haskell it's not personal just in general like everybody with the uh we got we got to do a change here we're going to start changing names this is hashem kalman i don't even know what his original name was but he changed it um real quickly by the way um two people flew into chicago to be menachem of the hill shine the hills hildeshine one of them came to my house and unfortunately i missed him that was really roth scene the second person came today and i met him you guys probably remember him from the uh the video you remember the the guys from texas and they they pointed on a map this is where texas is it happens to be i didn't realize guys a are regularly learned tenkail for five years he just fell in texas over there his name is shmuley hirschkovitz so he came to visit me and he gave me a lot of because he was telling me about his struggles that everybody has he fell off the bandwagon he in chavez he missed x amount the daf he got all the press he said forget about it but he realized that as soon as he jumped back on in the middle of in the middle of nowhere everything in his life changed he just became a better person his diving who's better everything is a better husband but i'm hoping one day he'll send me an email but it was a tremendous result and you know i'm also off the bandwagon right now i'm not doing the eight-minute death i have excuses i'm on vacation i'm in america it's the we got to jump on eventually i'll get back on it it's it's a stickle uh depressing i shouldn't say depressing it's not a good word but it's it's hurtful you do this to yourself but everybody falls and you get back up and keep on going so it's not if it's when it's going to happen because it's going to happen in the seven and a half years so some you missed a seven affair twenty dollars there a homosexual it doesn't matter you just jump back on because every daf is new at noon game knew everything why just wait until the next next cycle just don't jump on so that's what we're going to do so we'll have a little hole in the eight minute off we go right there here's a real quick email from yossi klein the famous yossi klein that's your rule that's in the the night year at night so those who go to menachem they continue from today and they catch up we don't catch up it's awesome no i'm just kidding listen if you catch up it's great but don't put the pressure on about catching up that's what i'm saying think about today think about tomorrow thinking about the future what happened in the past listen halaway should be able to catch up on my eight minute daf it's probably not going to happen i have to face the reality i could barely do one day for days i'm going to do two yes there's times shabasana you can catch up with that fear that's there but don't make it don't go crazy over it that's what i'm saying just continue go right there pound on pound another inception another miss after what happened yesterday you miss chavez new either you make it up or you won't make it up if you make it up great but don't don't focus on it that's what i'm saying all right says uh the email as well haribelli just wanted to tell you this is it's difficult for me to to read i'm going to read it it's it's a little bit in english and a little bit in english and yiddish higher belly i just want to tell you what makes mdy creating a small world after mckinsey is saying it we're small world after getting so many calls and messages from all over the world from london et cetera et cetera from the ami interview one that hit me the most was a call yesterday from schlemmy klein from crown heights which turns out he recognized my father's grocery name in the interview the story goes back to my father was involved in helping a woman her who her husband died suddenly kitzer he gave her six thousand dollars from his pocket so she shouldn't be better which was very hard financially for him then and to the point what happened was he gave the money listen it's a small world he gave the money to schleime who's running the produce company because i guess shlaimi klein was the shliyak to give her the money so the world's collided shlami klein realized that yossi klein is the son of that tsaddik the father of yasi klein who gave the money even though he didn't have the money to help out this al-mana the kit sir by joining mdy you get the worldwide connection let's hope to connect more people through the fire of toyota thinks okay now he says in parentheses now i know why you almost confused us last week because last week uh slimy klein and yossi klein they were off by day in terms that they both sponsored days and i called yussi klein slimy client something like that she's saying no the etzem have a tremendous connection a lot more than we ever knew boise it's only about 15 uh charts for today very geshmaka stuff i'll call this suggest shoots and ladders i have no idea why the shoots but it's a bunch of ladders kishmaker stuff especially for people like jesse klein and shia greenfield people that use ladders and valailla this is this is the sugya so we're holding the last last line on the enzyme base today if you have a ledge that comes out of a wall now we're discussing right now how do you make a wall that's tenth facade more than welcome lower than 10 fahrenheit you can use the top of the wall there's a there's another usage called an a-roof how do you go over the wall you pretend that the wall doesn't exist so that i can make an arrow with the hutter on the other side but we're not discussing that yet now we're discussing how do i go and how can i use my the tall wall like we said yesterday if if one hutzer is higher up closer to the top of the wall he gets to use the top of the wall the guy that's further away he's lowered down he doesn't get so i want to use this wall what i do is i put a ledge so what kind of ledge this is of course there's a picture and of course the pictures are not in order yet what happened sure i think the cat came and moved it okay here so you have a ledge vineyard has to have a width of but it doesn't so he takes some sort of uh ladder and he places the ladder on the ledge so now they become one now the the ladder is near the ground within three falcon of the ground mma law together with the latter they act as one the ledge is the fourth fachem and now we have like fort falcon attached to the ground sort of and here's your um of the wall i just reduced the wall velaya marinello though it's only in this case right over here where the ladder is leaning up against the ledge because now the ledge and the ladder are one however i will escape if you put the ladder side by side to the ledge they're not next they're not touching each other all you're doing is our vuch you're making the ledge wider but you're not attaching the ledge to the ladder and the let the ledge attach to the ladder and the ladder attached to the ground become one platform and that creates a reduction and you reduce the size of the wall another aloha now i have a wall that's 19 fahren all you need is one ledge in middle of the wall together of course with a ladder and that's it cause the last room but what if the wall is 20. now one ledge in the middle is not enough because you have to have within 10 the top of the wall with intense of the bottom of the wall of the of the ground so what do you do so sarah sees in la tiro you need two ledges so it's going to look something like well here let's just show the first one you know we got to go away from these papers we have to go all digital be a lot better if the ledge is smack in the middle of 19th you put the ledge right in the middle nine and a half falcons say so you have nine half talking from it to the ground nine enough talking to the top great but if that doesn't work out if it's a little bit more than that so now i need two ledges what i do one ledge here one ledge here ladder ladder and i'm good however the ledges cannot be directly underneath each other because it'll be very difficult to climb up from ledge to ledge you have to make like like a staircase like going on into mdy it's a it's problematic to get it in a way where it's inconvenient to climb so here it is they're offset from each other and therefore the ladders and everybody could climb easily and we'll see that that's part of that's how you do it if it's very difficult to climb it's not a good reduction of the wall they cannot be underneath each other directly one above each other because it'll be very very difficult to climb ob a a pure vertical and it'll be very difficult if you have a beam in the middle of just around them that's tenth tall and fourth wide what do we call that the notes so the top of the beam is it's four by four i could put a pot of soup on top of it however not but you'll say it calls you but what if i i bang a nail into it i just reduced the surface size of the four by four and i also made it impossible to use because if i'm going to take a pot of soup and put it down on top of that flat surface it's no longer flat my soup is going to spill over so therefore miyatoi it's considered as if you have less than urushios that's because let's see the picture here here here's your four by four four by four being tenth tall you put a little little spike on the top spoke whatever you want to call it now if that spoke is three twakum tall says the gemara that's a problem here's another picture not necessary but why not the only difference is this guy is slightly shorter i will even if it's less than three it ruins it it took away from the four by four surface my time allah how are you going to put a a chomp pot on top of this thing right over here you can't put anything you can't put your luggage on it this guy is sticking out says the gemara ravage even if it's three twerking tall maitaimo f shard the talibe midi there was a picture but i think we had enough pictures the picture in call out shot of a guy hanging a little pocket book on top of that little spoke great i think we could picture it in our head oh my god the revelation you say what if i guess you could picture this as well which is cool what if it's full of spikes it's just full of it now what are you going to also say you could still use it for something it says now listen to this tell me what the shot is i broke my head air on the stamp shot and i'm going to give it to you for free you could look in rashi you could look in the art scroll you could look in the mesifta wasn't clear to me and i'll tell you what happened i decided it's an old trick i'm telling you a great trick akushborohu gave clay yisrael the unbelievable gift in the last hundred years you know it's called mishna brewer greatest safer in the world we're used to it we just learned but the way that learned the sugya sometimes if you go into the mishna brewer and you just learn one or two you'll see he learned a little knight and it helped me tremendously what he said over there he says he brings uriah barb sorrow okay here's a picture we understand the case how does it help us though a guy dug a pit and you know you with the shovel you're taking out the dirt and the dirt creates a little rim around the pit now if the pit itself we have this in the chambers the pit itself let's say is seventh fuchem and then all the dirt is three talking together you have ten great now review brings us down he's media why does a bar of the huliasa it should say a bar which is tenth from deep and let's say asella iraq that's 10th why does the why does the mission over there combine abbar and julia to teach us that they combined together they could take let's say seventh faculty of a pit plus three of dirt on top now what does this have to do with a beam that has a bunch of spokes on top of it says the gemaro vamay why is it he's going to put a piece of plywood on top of it and he's going to use it so too we have a beam full of spokes spikes you're gonna take something put a piece of garment on top of it you're gonna take a piece of plywood and then you can use it now what does this have to do with our sugar i didn't understand i knew i was missing something the shot is very very simple the shot is that we're not talking about the height what's confusing is especially if you look over here but they had another picture as well but styrofoam the seven plus three that's not what we're talking about we're talking about the width rashes of the opinion that even if the bar itself doesn't have fourth with but if the hulia on top has fourth width it turns into russia now the question is it's not a regular pit now part of the pit has three falcon by three twakum on the bottom let's say the top part has four by four so where do you have you can't use the bottom of the pit for us down there it's three by three lmi on top top and bottom don't although it's trying to say in rashi that rashi agrees that when you go down into the pit it's not a rush only on top so so that's what the kumar is asking how do i make it into how could i use it i can't use the pit oh the only way i could use the top part is if i put something on top of it now if i put something on top of it now this becomes a yacht oh that's a whole different spider now so now in our sugy you take this beam there's a bunch of spokes on top of a bunch of pieces of metal how do i oh if i take a piece of plywood and put it on top of everything else now i have a new that's the same kind of now everything makes sense beautiful i guess if you want you can kind of find it in rashi rashi says just like we know that the 7 and the three are midstar of the tenth fuchim and the height starving so we also know that the midstarf to the width okay it didn't do much for me i i i couldn't understand it you guys understand it great but when i saw like one word it's you could find in the first page of hey looked out of in the mishna brewer and simon chin hey and uh just one little knight and then i ah it all made sense um okay so this people are going to start arguing with rashi but this already was before you basically rashes of the opinion that if you move your ladder this is a very nice picture i like it because it has like four boxes on the bottom to show you the fourth focus so if you want to get the tenth height on a ladder and you're going to have your ladder on an incline it's going to be a la sign it's not it's not going to be straight up because normal people walk up ladders when there's a little bit of a it's easier to climb up a ladder so how much you have to distance the bottom fourth that means your ladder needs to be 14 now if you do the math it probably doesn't work out exactly like rashid says that's what places has a problem with places says it makes a lot more sense if you move the ladder tent him away from the wall fourteenth fuchem will actually get to the top because of the whole judgment that we had two two days ago when was it two days ago is one and two fifths one arm is straight if you go from the diagonal is one and two fifths okay so one and two fifths e actually equals 10 the point is that according to rashi a ammo ladder will reach exactly the top of the wall if you pull it away fourth falcon from from the bottom oh yeah fourteen thousand that's what i meant i said ammo okay sorry way to go welcome back i was serious but not those these are the those are the baby ones i didn't really mean 14 am okay 14th so you take the fourth fachem plus the tenth fourth because you have to move it away from the wall fourth plus the the the latter's tenth falcon total of the 14th it could be one tefl away from the top of the wall you don't have to go exactly to the top of the pin you have leveled so if it gets to three to the top of the wall like right over here this picture you're still okay even if it's 7 as we're going to see in a second and it's vertical because 7 plus 3 is 10 but vertical vertical now it's very difficult to climb up a vertical so that's seven is also okay omarav here we go sulam zakov if it's completely vertical and that's a huge clich even though people don't like to climb up verticals you have to be a monkey to do it it's it's really difficult right you want the ladder always to be on some sort of 45 degree 25 degree whatever the angle is but on some sort of angle so it makes it easier no it's still mimid gemara this is how i learned to believe that on my timer what's that would rob said that it's like in the picture that the season are like that that was a nice picture all they said in the gemara it shouldn't be directly above each other but if it's like just one next to each other why not so that's pretty much a vertical so i don't know i would say probably yes i don't know and raph is short say it's okay you mean the other guys if they if the other people agree to that oh you're asking this is that's in a second yeah that's in a second we're going to get through that yes hold on we're getting there says oh don't know why um who argues with rav he's just explaining he's a very nice person he says let me explain to you what what you what you don't understand and yours for i don't agree with it but let me give you a savara oda abba taimo rav you don't know the reason that's what you were saying on basically his vertical on top of vertical which they had yesterday here's a box and another but they're vertical and they're considered one even though they're very difficult to climb up the kumar considers a one so you rav also consider the one this is like it's but no same thing this is uh it is established but it's like this that's what you're asking about the column should be i don't know i might be dreaming i remember going into iron lip stayman's house years ago and seeing a trunk of a tree in his dining room does anybody recall that it's just my wild imagination i remember like a round trunk no no back nothing no legs just a trunk of a tree by the dining room table somebody remembers that let me know and that's what we're talking about here just a piece of trunk just like this these are palm trees cut down the columns of the bubble eight on street from keva if this is what you put next to your fence this will reduce the fence why my timer faded they're so heavy no one is moving them away to the side like we had the other day two types of sula is the mystery so over here the the the beverly ladder is so it's so heavy that you don't have to be curved you have to hammered it in you can since it's so heavy nobody's moving it it becomes a kavod like a piece and it's mimayat the wall my time okay which is the sparrow that we had yesterday says he's closing if you say a ladder which is lighter than a heavy bark of a tree culture can come certainly a palm tree nobody's going to move that or not they call him and whoever says a palm tree have a slight because those are heavier ladders perhaps you might come to move so it's not considered kevios what'd you say like i think no i think that the babel is a type of a sula so it's more like the what was it suri whatever the name was over there i think that that's assumption bubble it's a type it says yeah it has to be something in an american ladder whatever that means it's above a ladder so it's a it's a type of a ladder that has a certain amount of steps we learn three steps versus four steps so maybe maybe it has three steps but it weighs uh a hundred pounds you know what i mean it's like it's above a ladder vibrant raviosa miraba sulaiman canvas so you need to have fort wachem to make it a sulu that's what we learned what if you put straw literally straw in the middle so when i was learning the gemara i didn't understand what's going on straw what so put toilet paper in the middle obviously that's not a sula rashi says it's like the last words on the page he says that the straw you could grab onto it's grabbable that yes it's something but it's not to put your foot on it so mellow here here are the two types of ladders here you have a ladder and a ladder and straw in the center so gamora's going to tell us this is no good because where do you put your feet on the straw the straw is not strong enough to hold your body weight it's good enough in this ladder right over here where you're putting your feet in the center and the added over here give it a fourth width and what are you going to do with this you're going to hold on with your so it's part of the ladder just you don't need it to hold your body weight that's a good ladder um cafe regular you can't you can't put your body weight on it kashmika kashmi khan basum so what if there's two ladders on the side but the straw i'm sorry the straws on the side and the ladders in the middle sula benzema on malay ray cafe regal oil bam it's perfect oy vey i forgot to okay in memory of my mother shane robert iron hersh by her son dr alan listhouse and let's see if i get this right i forgot i got an email this morning that i mispronounced it let's see uh sponsored by the austin and okay i have to do it again i apologize not tobias but tubby ass i think tabias grandchildren little nation as our bobby this albus whose nifter at the age of 98 guinea marches all right new case stuff i have some bass here are two cases you have a ladder the ladder is not fourth white so what does he do he goes and he carves within the wall fort falcon but he doesn't go all the way to the top says the gemara hashtag and he's using a ladder so he's doing two things he's carving into the wall and a ladder the camo very interesting aloha as long as i get the tenth fahrenheit that's enough why because now it's a pesach we could go into the next hotzer together with the ladder i could climb to the top but i need a combination of two things first i'm doing a pesach opening and also i could get to the top whereas the next case on marley silva this case right over here where there's no ladder at all but he did nice four tepha carvings into the wall become a malaya it has to go entire wall um why do we say that in this case you need fourth throughout the entire wall in this case only tenth vacuum says the gemara hosa mystala clay mistah clay over here he could climb up the ladder the only problem is that he doesn't have any fourth fuchsia i i give you tenth i'm worth a fourth fourth width by ten height that's your opening over here it's very very difficult to climb and therefore i need to give the entire carving of four tether with blah blah blah blah ilan ignore my nice cartoon here what if you know what i'm going to do this why not i don't want to show you my cartoon yet a guy makes a tree he has a tree right next to a wall now what's the problem with the tree the problem with the tree is that you can't really climb a tree in chaves yes i'm sorry everybody's asking over here or a few people are asking that it has to be it has to be angled off the wall i was carving it into the wall gonna help no no no are you saying in general you have to angle no we're asking how how tall does a who says that every ladder has to be on an angle a ladder has to be 14 i don't think it has to be in an angle um the island was holding and what are you so what is i'm trying to infer from that does that mean that i'm not holding uh let's see you have to dafca have if you have a ladder that goes from top to bottom even rav rav saying timeout ralph said that it never got to the top the vertical never got to the top a ladder that goes vertical i don't know that there's a big hmm you have to have a thing i don't know rav was saying in a vertical that's three less places oh here he goes i woke him up the mice i woke him up is good yeah but twice is a different thing place is saying something else we're not going with this time says that there's an angle on the wall that the wall is angled and it goes it's like steps yeah but we're not going ratchet doesn't go like that [Music] i know but rashi doesn't go like that rashi that's twice as she though so i don't know maybe rashi goes like it's a coin to rav here yeah that's twice the sheep titus says that the whole thing is in an angle it's like steps it's a different thing i don't have a picture of that but in the color show you'll see a nice picture if you want i hear good toilet is doing great all afternoon viral exactly how this goes all right um come on close boy mine ravioli rabbit that's what we're holding yeah boy rabbits what if the tree is a ladder hey boiler review the famous soogie that we had are you allowed to put the error of truman on a tree and we said because it's there benash masha is going to rebbe it's okay as long as banash moshe says there's no isr the whole this isn't the climate tree in japan you might come to break off a branch which is a sir but that's only siddhi rabbanaan is the rabbana during bananas is okay so when it comes to trom the air of truman just has to be the during banana smashes and therefore according to rabbits okay according to our abundance no good tea by the way by the right bottom this is a different case why they buy the review the gazer i love over there hana mili banashimashits that's over there by trum where it has to be better smashes what happens to the arrow of a minute after banner smashes after nightfall an animal comes and eats your heir of trouble you're good to go as long as one moment during minnesota is there aval but over here we're talking about area of khatseras and you have to be able to carry from kotsu tokata it's not about what you can do management it's about what you could do on shabbos itself in shabbos itself you cannot use the tree or dilma field on listen to this savara and why don't we always say it i'm not a hundred percent sure at the end of the day it's a true opening the aries who they're vla here oh back to the safari so what's going on here this is a good tree this is a good pesach it's a good opening and by the way i i forgot to mention but it was obvious we jumped to a roof now we're in a roof we're not we're not talking about using the top of the wall we're talking about connecting the two katseras so i physically have a way to go from here to here just what there's a lion on the bottom let's say physically if there's a lion i'm not going to go up a tree that there's a lion in the bottom so over here abundant of the lion they said you can't go up the tree they put a locker there it's like if i have a door i just can't open up the door because this is alarm let's say i don't want to be over the larvae is going to go off have a good pesach just that's preventing me from going through so i don't know sometimes we don't use this sparrow but over here the seems to be using it are you the review perhaps it's a good opening just this isn't the right button that's preventing me from using but in terms of a physical opening it's a physical opening because i have a tree i have a ladder just what you're not allowed to use that kind of ladder on shabbos i saw it last year sula so what let's take the next step what if there's a tree that was from a video a city of zara you have to burn it like forget about those but it's like it's gone from it once again you have here ash island will review the red button what was my collection between revealing rabbana can you place the a-roof it's in the beginning of the massachusetts can you place the a-roof on a grave site on a on a caver so what's the shiloh over there the shadow over there if you remember the whole era of trumam is only for a mitzvah mitzvah the environment so that's why i do so mitzvahs you just have to be able to place it there for a moment and that's it when it comes to khattar arugul is not a mitzvah i want to be able to carry to my neighbor my neighbor to me so i'm constantly benefiting from it a personal benefit so i can't blame it on a mitzvah so to buy the rabbana antibiotics over there all you need is a moment that should be considered your house that grave but afterwards i don't care i don't need the grave to watch my ear let somebody come take it once again this is considered a good opening it's a tree that i could climb just what it's vla same kind of sabaro over here it's another the lion is preventing me the rabbana are preventing me from going up the tree but it's a real good opening on malay elon mutor vasheiro asura yes you could do the treat but you can't do that sheira why exactly maybe because of the israel no you can't use it at all mascara adorable i don't understand what you're saying says though elon is going when it comes to the tree this is within shabbos i'm trying to make an area of four shabbos and there's a issue of shabbos on the tree nitsar so that should be awesome it has no connection to shabbos the israel is from israel of the zoro of israel lay nazar that shouldn't ruin it for us in fact it's manami we learned in the brazilian oven we learned sorry um anything that the isr comes from shabbos like climbing the tree and champions awesome so when it comes to trees so we have the old shyla whether you're allowed to put air through them in the tree or not so that's the same shiloh over here so rebbe would say it's okay robot would say it's awesome and we'll call them star shade retreat the same machetes that we have could you place a heir to him on a grave review this as you can so hold hold you're allowed to use and i'll share your tree it's just very interesting i just want to point out a very interesting sharla mcmahon says before that a shayra is right ashaira tree it's the avid zara that causes it but wait a minute an asherah tree is a tree and you're not a climate tree in chavez so a church tree has a double problem why is a shader tree different than any any other tree you're saying a regular tree a regular tree has it it's there to climb on it it's a shabbos rabonson don't climb a tree but an acidic tree has a separatist or nothing to do with shabbos it's called avodah zara but you know how to climb it because it's shabbos so therefore they come up with a major dejack that we're showing them that we're talking about a tree that's cut off the ground it's not even attached to the ground otherwise it's very hard to understand says the mishnah so like in the other mishna we had a wall that is fourth falcon wide tenth tall i just want to point that again i mentioned it i want to point that again that that wasn't the halacha that the wall has to be fort falcon wide that was because of the safety of the mission that they put fruit on top of the wall what do you do it's considered its own mocking today but a wall doesn't have to be fourth wide a wall could be tutvahamway it's still a mojito if i have a metal sheet going right through my my backyard i'm not connected to my neighbor even if it's one inch wide but when it comes to a horizon actually points out right away when it comes to a ditch in the ground you need it to be fort falcon white why because otherwise i'll step right over it doesn't create a mojito between the two katseras okay so you have a ditch that's for him wide and tenth deep that's a great separation it creates a hepstick and now the back the yards are considered two so you have to make two a rule of them and you're not gonna make one arrow afido molycash what if you fill up this i have a picture somewhere it's like yeah for later what if he filled up this ditch full of straw garnished i feel while he cash hey tevin because that's not me battle it i am going to remove this straw even on shabbos it's not much we're not talking about the straw that we're talking about yesterday that he needs it for cement he needs it for his animals i'm going to remove it so it's not a bittle it doesn't fill up the hole offers railroads but if the instead of putting straw in the ditch you put dirt oh that's like any like in hour days as well you fill up the ditch is meant to be filled up like lamar is going to say it's far later marvin once you fill it up now these yards become one the kat series become one it's one a roof and you're not allowed to do two a room even if you want to make three room it's one giant open area nasa no love necessary but what if you put like in this picture he put a plank of wood nozzle or if he has two two balconies this is a picture of two balconies and two sides versus robin and even on one side of just around someone showed him learned this way someone shouldn't learn it this way the bottom line is it goes from porch to porch from balcony to balcony with a piece of wood and we're going to see in the gemara what if they're not exactly directly straight from each other what if they're one is slightly higher that's tomorrow you can connect they can be considered connected over here and over here or they can they can be considered one or two pages but if it's less than fourteen the piece of wood let's just do one or two more lines here so yeah let's go but heavenly what do you mean if you fill up the ditch with straw that's not considered a mojito here's a picture what if you have a wall literally made out of straw is made out of brick or it's made out of straw it's there to stay it creates a a division between the two caterers very simple i can make a wall out of any material i want even out of straw avalyn but to fill up a ditch and that should be considered as if it's completely full sosum says rashi ibatli it's if you say i'm never going to remove the straw for life then okay then i'll fill it up but if you don't say so then it didn't fill up the pit and then mela it's not considered a full pit it's considered as if you have a cutter with a ditch between the two caterers and it creates a division but a wall is always a wall no matter what material you use have a wonderful wonderful day [Music] how do [Music] is [Music] foreign