Daf Yomi Chullin Daf 81 by R' Eli Stefansky

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I thought you saying it's an emergency. of Mark Ashkenazi on my computer writing emergencies like o what happened now that's usually that's what happens I took a room for a few hours and I gave a sh okay thank you Mark I see you oh let the fun begins we're going to be together twice a day our voice we're holding 10 lines from the bottom of the payment bay and BM will catch up to be caught up to yesterday was really bad. We started the shear on the top of B. Now we're making our way says the Garo. We're talking about the is a mother and her offspring a father and his offspring according to passing like that as there's another is when you the second animal the mother and then the son or you the son and then the mother it doesn't matter in what order you the second one it's We're talking about you're not allowed to bring the second one as a carbon at all. You have to wait. And since you brought it, you should be on another is therefore instead of getting 39 mus you should get 78. You should get double the amount of malus. called it says let's see if I can find I know that it was here this is oh is when one leg is longer than the other like in this depiction the colot is when the hooves are not split so if you bring a carbon like that leave it I'm going to have to excuse me. I'm going to drink from the bottle. I already made a symmet. It's very hot here in Greece. Might have to take off my jacket. Leave it. Says the I'll tell you why. You're right. But I'm only counting whatever has to do with our side. I'm not counting. I'm not we're not talking about that right now. But we are talking the whole these all these cases that we're actually going to speak about more today. Remember yesterday we're speaking about this for instance this chart right over here of one carbon inside one one carbon outside and these are and of of. So, let's maybe go to the real case. Let me see if I can find it here real quickly. Uh, here's very good. This guy. Oh, so when she took outside of so the first one you're and there's a so says the here we're talking about this of outside nothing to do with with this is a of right the second one. Okay. Why does the first one get isn't it because of the says you're right if there's nothing else to count. So I'll give you I'll tell you the other the one that's not important to our but anything that does have a which is our then I'm not going to talk about side. So in our case when there's the of and that's what we're concerned with. So I can tell you oh and by the way there's another that's not important but if if one of the doesn't have any at all there's no the first one doesn't have the first the mother you just now the son after the mother so when you sh the mother there's another laugh because you did it outside. So then I mentioned other okay aside and that's today's you know why there's no because it's not allowed in order to get it there has to be it has to be a negative this is a positive it's an that's a positive why the says they could only an animal from the eighth day on from the eighth day and forward you have a positive meaning if it's less than 8 days then it's a negative so therefore this is not a a love this is really an it's a it's a positive commandment. It's a mitz to not before the eighth day and if you do you're on says this is not a typical typically speaking the the classic is when a person steals there's a remedy to what you did over here it's it's not a remedy it has nothing to do you should bring a carbon on the eth day and if you bring a carbon on the seventh day as but this of I needed for something else. He asked a contradiction an animal. We don't have to show this video again but just to remind remember remember animal has to be at least 8 days old but it says in the ple you should be seven days by the mother that the end of the seventh day the beginning of the eighth day that evening it's on the one hand at night it's okay and it says it says but only from the eighth day on is it okay? Okay. So, which one is it? Is it the seventh day at night or the eighth day in the morning? Contradiction. Oh, okay. So, what do we do to to fix this contradiction the seventh day once the seventh day is over that night? You could be you could say this is a be but the morning eighth morning that's to bring the I need this to tell me that at night you are you say this is going to be and in the morning you bring it says you're right but there's a very similar a second and that allows us to learn both that first of all it's a it's not a pure it's more like a positive commandment rather than a negative and therefore there's no malus and the other thing is we're going to learn that you could make mdesh carbon at night and you bring it in the morning now we're going to go back to the suga that we had yesterday today I did the suga in the b at 400 p p.m. had a lot of people. A lot of people. I I could I couldn't believe it. I thought I came in walking there. I thought, "Okay, there's going to be four or five people maybe. I don't know like Benny and a few others, you know, some of the some of the the standard guys that come for every year." These are packed. I want to say there's 50 60 people. And to do it with an audience is a lot more fun because I would just say the word and they all said the answer. I would ask the question, say the answer. I'm going to ask the question to you. You can say the answer at home to the computer said and I mentioned it at the end of Shir yesterday and it comes out that according to there is no ofing a mother and her son the same day when it comes to Why holds that in order to be on we know you have to the mother and then you have to the son you can't kill the mother and the son you have to all have to be but the the thing is according to the has to be a that's for reading has to be a that accomplishes the so let me ask ask you a question. What if you shuck an animal according to and you find out that it's a trophy? Can't eat it. Is it to the sun? And the answer is no. We're going to learn today in the Mishna at least according to the Mishna that when you a find out it's there's no continue in the sun because it's not a that made it available for eating. Oh. So says by by when you chef it it's not available for eating right away because you have to throw the blood and that's another step but at the first step of at that point it wasn't available for eating and therefore it's not considered for eat. So let's see inside my it has to be row has to be available for eating otherwise not considered since when it comes to carbon you have to throw the blood you have to sprinkle the blood on them and until you do so it's not a good so that point is not a good Oh, so let's go back to that case that we had before and let's do this together. Let's play the game. You have two animals that are carbonas and you both of them the mother and the son outside of the so the mother when you the mother you're on you get malus but according to it's not a good if it's not a good then there's no is of and if it's not a good it's available inside the sun is available. The second is available inside. So let's see the you have two outside you get on the second one and that is going to ask right away what do you mean? Did you get carus? You shed an available animal that you could inside the because according to the second one is not available to the mikdash. So you don't get cars on the second one for shutting it outside because it's not it's not available. But according to the second one you could today in the mdash. Why? Because the mother doesn't count the doesn't count. So the second one has nothing to do with the first one. So since it's available she get question in a second. since it's going to become available soon. So then it's a it's a which we have to understand. No, if you don't get cars, you don't get the we asked the question. The second one is only The first one you never shed because the doesn't count. So the is considered a bullet to the head. It's like killing the animal. It's not a it's as if you killed it. So if you killed it so therefore the second one is available to be shed today right right away in the mid and you didn't mdash. Where did you like in this chart you shifted it outside of the B mikdash? Oh so you should get on the second one just like you get in the first one. answers and some say just anonymous. You're right. It's missing a word or two. Apostle like we said before that according to this the first one you get cars second one from but you have to we have to point this out you're from but you are according to the first one it's a good accord only according to it's not a good accord it's a good and then the son that same day where you're is the in for outside. Why? Because the second one is not available according to bring today to according to but according to since the first one is not a realita doesn't affect the second one and the second one is available in the mdash and you outside boom you get for the second one. Now another case here this is rib shim let's just see rib shim according to rib you get even for the second one if you ch 22 if number one outside so let's do the math you the first one outside so what happens you get the outside the second one the inside of it's not available to right now. So you don't get the cars in the market but according to the second one is available inside of perfect beautiful. So let's see inside the first one you get the second one is not available for so it's possible but why didn't it's not available so it's not a real the second one is perfect okay but according to there's no why because the first one that you there's no it's considered killing and when you kill the mother and then you the son you're not what about if you reversed it you did the first one inside the mdash and the second one outside of mdash first one mdash is beautiful it's perfect second one outside there's Let's see. The first one is perfect. Which what's the why? Wait a minute. said there's no when it comes to according to when it comes to carbon there's no because everything is considered a non it's not a good why because you can't eat it the first thing the first animal wasn't considered a at all so you should get foring the animal outside of This is what he meant. Typically speaking helps that that what you wouldn't have is so there's no malus. family because as long as you don't throw the blood, you're not allowed to eat the meat. And when you do and when you the animal, we don't know if you're going to throw the blood or not. Some people don't throw the blood. Sometimes the blood spills. So I the the the witnesses can't come and say, "Hey, by the way, what you did, you're going to get you're going to get Malcus now." They can't warn him. You can't warn the guy and say, "Listen, you're going to be on." Why? Because I don't know if he's going to throw the blood. Anytime you have unknown in the in the warning, then it's not a good warning. Says goes according to his own If you have two two animals, one the mother is a mundane a regular typical animal that you would eat at home but her son is a carbon schlam. This is a a that when the famous story when Bengurion went to visit the Khaz try to convince him about the army and and different things. So the wouldn't look at him and later on and what's interesting I said over the story in the Hebrew and Gertner he's a he sits right next to me every Hebrew and he says that he learned by this guy and he knows the story to be factual that he heard the story from him that day. Bengurion went and had lunch with the Sarah. His name was Zman Aran. As I'm saying the story, Aaron Girtner says Zan like he knew the names and he tells him, "Listen, I just met Rabbi Keralitz and I'll tell you, he has a lot of nerve, a lot of um what's the word? Omits. He has a lot of um what's a good word for he has no fear. He's fearless. Something like that. Audacity. Okay. Audacity. I'll take it. It's a lot of audacity. But audacity is a little bit of a negative word. Has some negative connotation. But anyway, a lot of um very brave. Okay, that's probably the very brave. Why? because he's sitting in front of the prime minister of Israel. He's not looking at him and he's correcting the prime minister and he's and he's arguing with him a lot of courage. Okay, courage, that's a better word. And as he's saying this, this Zman guy's daughter, young daughter, overhears the whole conversation. years later she gets engaged and the family of her she wasn't religious said everything is good but we're making a condition you have to light shabas candles don't keep anything but shabas candles dive in by the shabas candles so what does she do ding by the shabas candles for years that her son should have courage and audacity and braveness like Rabbi Romish Carellites from NRA like Rabbi Carell from Nra. Years later, her son that son that she used to d became a Baluva and became a very hush of a person his name is Was just lifter two years ago very young. He was nift in his early 60s and he's uh he was Iron Girtner's Revy and he told him the story his mother with Davin heen she might have been but her son turned out to be so the mother is a regular animal. The son If the the regular animal and then the inside this goes according to why from because when you the mother the doesn't count sorry the of the of the son of the doesn't count. Yeah. So the of the second one doesn't count. But if you first and then you why because of so really because over here you have you're saying definitely because there's no there's no I'm not concerned that maybe throw the blood maybe won't th there's no throwing blood but listen to this it changes when we're talking about an bylim there's one is another Allah why because when it comes to there's a part that you eat there's a part you don't eat when it comes to there's no parts that you eat the whole thing goes on so what happened you if you first and then the second it's I know if he's he's going to do against them or not. But if first and you threw the blood. So now when it comes to the says but when it comes to the certainly over there it's for sure because I don't know if he's going to pour the blood or not. says no says think there's a few charts here but I don't think they're necessary here we're only this chart in both cases you even first why since it's not counted as a why is it not counted as nobody gets to eat the the meat and we said that in order for to count you have to be it has to accomplish that you could eat and since you no one is eating the because the entire thing goes on the so didn't accomplish eating says I love this he says no what do you mean nobody ate the ate we know when it comes to pigle we're not going to go into the pigle so don't worry about it pigle just means that when a has a thought as he's shing as he's doing one of the avoidas he's thinking that the animal the carb is going to be eaten outside of its allotted time. So let's say you're allowed to eat it for two days. He thinks that in 3 days from now he's going to eat the steak but it's more than that. If you look at this chart there's four types of eating when it comes to carbon. This is throwing the blood on the mah is a type of eating. It's a type of food for the misb. Putting the im the the the the parts that you put on the mb the the fat the the kidney whatever you put on the mb that's also eating of the mb is so to speak eating those. So also has eating. It's a that accomplished what's talking about two different types of eating. It's not just when you eat a steak. It's also when the eats the the im or the the where was I? I was in a safari once. I didn't tell people where I was and they're able to see from the the water bottle. They just Googled it and they saw what country I was in. Remember Shalom Ran said, "Oh, you're in South Africa or something." I don't remember. Anyway, commission of pay alone base. We'll do the sponsors. Let me just Oh, before we do the sponsors, [snorts] there's a video. Yeah, let's do let's do the video and then we'll do the sponsors. Hello. What? You just slaughtered the mother of sheep 39. Understood. So, the law of it and its offspring applies to him. I'm moving him now. Nobody slaughters him today. specialized. Since they slaughtered the mother, you can't slaughter it. Very good. >> [panting] >> This K us the mother and the daughter and the son one day. Oh, so uh maybe the editors will show ye the the famous drummer from the Hebrew Shir. He brought his son to share today and the son was mesmerized. He's like looking with his eyes open. It was it was very cute. And uh somebody caught a picture of the father and son just looking and watching and the kid that goes after this this video is over first of all in middle he goes is he a ganov? He sees the guy with the mask and I asked him I said uh what happened? He says he got crushed young kid six-year-old and he says play it again. I want to see it again. Anyway, so hopefully the editors have that picture. They can show you what he looked like. It was great. If you according to that has to be that accomplishes that you could eat it. So what if you the animal and you find that you can't eat it? It's a you can't eat this animal. We have videos for all this, but whatever. We'll show it. Why not? So it's not available for eating the paradum viscal. and an animal. Oh, was Ducha in a skull. There we go. I have a job for you. >> I'm coming. >> Yeah, I will be there shortly. Dispatch, I've lost visual on the suspect. He's disappeared into the herd. Oh, if that etc. Rufa. Should we show the eggla? Hold on a second. It's kind of long. It's a lot of a lot of stuff. If you find a person dead between two cities, you measure, you don't know who it is, you measure this closest city has to bring the calf and you decapitate it and you say So if says in all of these po there there's no When you the the meat is not available to eat doesn't count no still in such a case if you and you did the wrong move you you did one of the things that that caused not to be like whatever it is you just you rip out the the sim and you you chop the you don't you're not only when you but if you kill the mother then you're allowed to the son that same day. Now let's do the turning of the daff by the global international wire transfer specialist encore healthcare now it's beautiful what happened a person an animal now remember when it comes to you're only on the second animal. You're always allowed to shuck the mother on a regular day. On a Monday, you're allowed to shuck the mother. You just not allowed to shuck the son after you shuck the mother. But on the mother, you don't get an isser is when you shuck the second one. Shuck the son, you sh the mother the would be on the mother. So what happens by? Think about it. There's a concept called meaning that if you do a certain a let's say you're a person murders somebody and while he murders him the bullet rips the shirt as an example I don't know if this is the real thing but since for killing for murdering you don't pay for the shirt you only pay for the you only get one it's double jeopardy really but you only get one punishment and you get the larger of the two punishments. Oh, so when it comes to person gets so you wouldn't be on but that's only if is on the second animal. If the first animal is thear animal which is there's no in the first animal and the second animal is no then this doesn't apply says the sorry that's when it applies that's the only time it could apply the first one is second one is not what if the first one is a regular animal the second one is potter why the the went to visit a school. He was faring them and he says what is now happens to be a lot of people don't know what it is there I heard of where a toy bunny one of these uh lawyers in Bezdon had a situation where a woman lawyer came and she was fighting him in Bezon. So he tells her, he says, "But it's Kim." And because she didn't know what it was, she's like, "Oh, okay, fine." And she let it go. And then later on she met him and she says, "What are you talking about? It had nothing to do with the case." He goes, "I know. Had nothing to do with the case." I go, he asked the kids, "What's Kim?" So this is really good for Hebrew speakers. One of the kids says, "Kim, Kim means you should stand up for the rebi. you should stand up for the Rebi. So, it's a beautiful shot. Beautiful. But there's other to that also. Great. So, you hear what's going on here. It's a thing that if a person is on animal number two, he can't be that's a much smaller and we're not going to count it. He's not going to get malus for that. Yeah. Oh, here's a good a good video for Kim D. So just to explain this is on chabas the sing chabas and here I'll just explain to them this this is actually the Hebrew shear singing this is mdy [singing] on he's getting to the car and it's not an electric Oh, you're on Chavis. Hallelujah. [screaming] Hallelujah. Oh, so What's going on here? So, let's see. Says even a child knows this. There is a case where even though the second animal was animal, you still how's it possible? So here's a beautiful if a person commits an a that has two components to it like in our case component A is component B is the but the only warned him on the lesser of the two said you're they didn't realize that he's doing they didn't care about whatever their thing is do we say the fact is at the end of the day he did and he did. So what if he wasn't warned this is an that has a larger component to it. He shouldn't be for that for even the smaller component or no since the ignored the larger one. Let's let's guy at least for the smaller one. So that's between she says had they done he would have been even if they didn't do he's also they arguing the same exact thing somewhere else what I was going to say why do I need them target in two places and that's the end of the here's the case a person is if he would do it deliberately he would But he did it by mistake. Same thing. And he did, let's say he stole a piece of meat that's an on the stealing and he's on the So there's a a component of a monetary component because he he stole it. He has to pay he's for the money part and says why at the end of the day there's no so you have to pay the but it's a case that had they warned them you would have been of a much larger amount a much larger thing so therefore you don't you don't pay the the smaller had they warned him on the part he wouldn't have had to pay. So it's kilo. It's it's as if they warned him and he's potter or it's it's that kind of a that there such a there's a there's a large component a small component he's say both cases our case by a person and and the case over there where there's a money component if it only talks about somebody over here there's a which is affects the body and his malus which affects the body. So that's why says but when you have to just pay money maybe he'll pay if it only says the case of the money that that that he has to pay the small amount when it comes to the malus and the the mis two compon two two things that have to do with a person's body maybe you would agree that he's potter I need the two arguments. Raoai, have a wonderful day. Regards from Yavan Zazone. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor a shir today. mdysponsor.com or sponsor at mdy.com.