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Daf Yomi Chullin Daf 52 by R' Eli Stefansky
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Good morning.
I think people think I'm in Austria.
Look, I've never seen the room like
this.
>> What's your name?
>> From
>> Whose volume is on
volume two?
Is that those are your suitcases
outside?
>> Your cousin. He's leaving or coming?
>> No.
>> No. Who came with the suitcases? I want
to I want to say sham to the guest.
>> Oh shamama. Where you guys coming from?
>> Um Detroit.
>> You just came now. You're in yeshiva.
>> So you came with the you plan on
sleeping here. Stay.
>> Ah. What's your name?
>> And you also from Detroit? No shame.
What's your name?
>> Shamik and Daniel.
>> Ah,
>> she didn't make the make the last bus to
Jerusalem.
>> No
getting up at 7:00 in the morning, 6:30.
Come on.
Call to you guys. Listen, without you
guys, it would be like literally 20
people here in the room.
Uh to remind
didn't see this, we have Shabas.
We took the entire hotel, the royal
hotel on Yamamel Berm.
It's going to be a beautiful
>> MDY.
>> MDY MDY Shabas saved the date.
>> There's a what?
>> When you get back from Austria.
>> No, no. This is uh this is the cover.
This is the cover Roshashana. This is
right. Oh, no. After Austria, there's
another trip. Don't worry about it.
A vice in
Manchester debell on Wednesday this
week. I fell in my bathroom, hit my
head. [snorts] It was gushing blood. I
was headed to the shadic hospital being
a good talmet. I asked the kari medics
in the back with me if they did due me.
They didn't. I mentioned your name and
how wonderful it was. Let me just show
you the picture of him. Here he is
sitting there in the hospital.
>> Still blood. Wow. You I could actually
see the blood that came out of his head.
I didn't even notice that. That's a lot
of blood. Wow. But here he is doing the
daff. Whoa. Wow. That's that's
dedication. Um
>> I mentioned your
>> one of said his followers recognized I
was conscious at the time. So while
waiting to 10 I started washing the
shear at 7:10. I got interrupted after
40 minutes. But this is how you have
changed my life every day. It's routine.
I come over from Shen straight to the D.
After I was catching the D and D came
put five staples. I told them I had a
few minutes to go this year and they
said continue. We can put in the staples
while you learn. M like like who was in
that surgery
the somebody the stapler [laughter]
that's terrible stapler
>> no surgery how am I going to do it no
shot
what md
>> I don't like it
>> give him I told a few minutes ago you
can put in the staples Okay. Anyways, in
the minion there's a also for some
reason I asked him. Yes, he knew of you.
My wife complained. My wife complained
that I become fixated by the daff and
everything revolves around it. Welcome
to the club. Hashem a few weeks ago, my
friend's wife complained to me that ever
since I introduced him to it has taken
over his life. How does your wife over
here? There's too much going on in this
right over here cuz it's disturbing. How
does your wife handle this? Finally,
have you used the word? No, this is not
true. Big on all your team's effort to
bring to the masses bronered
bish.
Here he is.
Thank you. Wow. Get langanger. The
secret behind look there's a lot of
people do pra
um unfortunately No's not here. He's not
feeling well.
>> Better.
>> Is he better?
>> I don't know if he's going to make it on
the trip or not. The secret behind good
morning. The ah is actually what brings
in the recognition the recognition that
we are never finished. Before the ah
comes it is just good morning raisai
gmr which is done. The ah then wakes us
up and brings us from gimar to gimar.
This is why we begin this is this is
it's happening now and there's like
pmius even from now like things that
just now
that this is why we started that cuz uh
the al if is itself aid wakes up and
says I'm not done is never done
returning to the gam is inherent step to
getting to that the a which is an al if
with audoc
when we call it a we're drawing ing down
the flow of wisdom from Hashem to open
our mind with the of wisdom that comes
from the a what better to reveal
than Alfie
Stfansky.
Good morning everybody. Say ah much
loveanger.
>> Those those of us who who are into
really appreciated this those not a
little less official edition
period.
Oh
now
do Eisenberger you're because the other
one I think in the Gmorra in the Gmorra
it says with grat to my father Gish
Eisenberger sadic and none of and my
role model you're
dish it both ways you're father which
makes sense but over here
I think he's talking to what
>> yeah you know
>> with gratitude my father
of and my role model maybe he's also
he's probably of his father okay I'm
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Here we go.
>> [clears throat]
>> We're holding like 14 lines from the
bottom.
>> 13 lines from the bottom.
When an animal falls,
you have to check the entire
um
>> the Yeah. Yeah. But what does it what do
the intest do? say um ml food the the
whole digestive system thank you
in Hebrew I can't remember the words in
Hebrew I to say it in English in English
in Hebrew it's
that all I need to do now is start a
shearing that will be like a ah
check the entire digestive system the
whole intestines
Start from the entire length of the
spine and all the ribs. You got to check
to make sure there's no internal damage.
Animal falls. We have to be concerned
that there's damage.
What about the trachea and the esophagus
the
animal fell? Do we have to be concerned
that maybe popped out of place?
You don't have to worry about it. They
are in good shape. They're very strong.
They withhold, they withstand
a fall. That's not the issue.
[clears throat]
I guess you can see also like in a human
being, human beings that fall, what
breaks their hip, their their ribs. You
never really hear that the guy's
esophagus popped out of place. You know
what I'm saying? So the sophagus is
pretty pretty pretty good.
For me, this is one of the most
interesting gimmarists I've seen in a
long time because now we're going to
discuss
when a bird falls on a certain material.
Now,
the idea is in the says all the way at
the end that there's two types of fall.
All of you, especially the guys over 70,
know what parkour is and how to jump off
of roofs and in parks and jump over
fences. And there's ways to to to to to
jump off a two-story building, you know,
you jump and you like um you no what's
the word I'm looking for? You
>> want to show us how to do it?
>> Get up for a second. Show us
>> you're in shape. Get over here.
>> It's not You probably You're probably
better than a lot of us.
>> You the impact the um you absorb.
Absorb. That's the word I was looking
for. Is that the word you were looking
for? No. You try to absorb the fall.
Now, if you could absorb the fall in a
better way, like let's say uh
parachuters, not not the guys that do it
for fun, but the guys in the army, they
don't give them something that you could
you just fall out of the plane, right?
You fall fast, but when you land, you
don't want to land on your two feet cuz
you break your legs. They tell you like
roll. I don't know what different
things. If you were to jump off a
two-story building, but on an angle,
it'll be a lot better. You, let's say
you hit a wall that has an angle to it,
it'll be a lot better. will have absorb
the fall a lot more than if you fall
straight on a piece of concrete. That's
the whole here. That's the end of the
day. Anything that is slippery and that
you're not it's not going to give a jolt
like that. It's in yeshiva the a guy
thought he could jump. He told he could
jump out a two-story building. He jumped
and he broke both of his legs. I said
the story yesterday. Yeah, I have a
friend. I have a friend. Everybody had a
friend that tried it and wasn't very
successful
before parkour became a thing. You know
the guys tried it like straight from
let's why try one floor let me try two
floors one floor is a garden fine
but what's the pillar why why do I say
it's one of the most interesting so the
gar gives 27 examples of different
things that a bird could fall on
and to me I was surprised that one of
them is not bereus like once you're
going through sand and and cotton and 27
like like why do I need so many I don't
understand I bam I don't I don't get it
but that that's how we're so so it's
easy it flies you just have to
understand what these things are I don't
know all these 27 you'll help me out a
little bit and we're going to go
most of us some of us are scared of
water most of us try to dive into the
water once in a while and you do a
little bit of a belly flap why does it
hurt
so what if a bird with its wings tied
fell onto the water.
I guess these are all things that
happened. These are common materials the
birds fall on. Interesting. So, as long
as I can swim one bird's length. So, he
showed that he's not a he's not a noola.
He's not a res. He doesn't have crushed
organs. He's able to move. We're going
to see later on if an animal stands up,
if an animal walks, these are all signs
that he's okay. He doesn't have any
internal damage.
And this is only a bird who was able to
swim from downstream upstream against
the flow of the water upwards.
But if he swam from up down, that's
nothing. That's not a he just he was
floating and he happened to make his way
downream. Big deal.
And if the water is stagnant, it's just
staying. It's not going anywhere. Less.
But what's interesting is that Rashi
says in this case that even if you went
upstream
even if you went like but I thought it's
ky it's it's that it's so talks about it
he says it the water is moving slightly
and he he doesn't have to prove himself
that he went upstream because it's
barely moving so for a bird it's nothing
let's say have a leaf you have a piece
of floating wood on the water [snorts]
so now you know speed of the water, but
he's vikat. He went he swam quicker than
the wood. So, he's going downstream. We
said he has to he has to swim upstream.
But look at the detail, the amount of
detail. Like, oh, it's crazy. So, he
really has to prove himself by swimming
upstream, but he could also prove
himself swimming downstream if he's
quicker than the floating things on the
water. Floating things are going 5 miles
an hour. He's going 10 miles an hour.
So, obviously, you see that he's
capable.
Okay. Glema.
Here's a gleam. This is a real story.
This is not made up. This is not AI, I
guess. In, you know, Colorado, wherever
it is, if a beer comes into your front
yard, you have an issue. So, like they
shoot him with a dart or something, I'm
assuming. And then they try to catch
him. So, that's a gleam mat. Is this
Matiak? If it's taught and the bird fell
into broken
I love the end cuz this like happens
every day. Look what Look at the truck.
Danger live beer. [laughter] Like they
have they have this ready. This is the M
of Okay.
A nice little circle. I don't know why
it's uh like a tube. Could have been
like a B. No, it has to be. It's
comfortable for him. Okay. Gishmak.
So if it's taught, you know, like these
guys, you saw they're professionals.
There was a little bit of a stomach in
that blanket. It gave it a little bit of
it absorbed.
So
means we have to be concerned. It has
broken bones. It's not taught.
If it's folded up, oh, it has a nice
cushion is
if the net that you're catching with it
has these knots that are close together.
So now you have to be concerned that he
got broke his bones on these knots.
If the knots are further apart, you
don't have to worry. I guess these are
all things that they used to do back in
the day.
If it's in a bunch of bundles, it's very
it's very tough.
[clears throat]
And so we have a nice video over here.
Like I explained before, if the bird
falls directly,
this is not a good video because it had
his wings are flapping. You know,
without without flapping wings, he falls
on the
on the pinnacle on the spits of the
bail, then it will destroy his his uh
bones. But if it's on the if it's on the
side, so it get it moves a little bit.
It's a little bit on slant. It absorbs
more of the impact and then we don't
have to worry about his bones and
everything
uh breaking.
If he falls on the on the slant part,
we're talking about reads. They're very
tough. So you have to be concerned.
If you have cotton that was pounded and
combed,
it's soft.
It was just pounded but it wasn't combed
so it's not that soft.
If small bundles
small bundles have you tie it together
so has knots. You have to be concerned
about the knot breaking its bones.
If it's like the stuff that comes out of
the uh the cotton theon it's finer
stuff. It's it's it's soft.
It's the what?
missed the
>> No, I didn't.
Oh, I just realized in uh in Chicago
when I was giving the uh
the laning class that I had over there.
So, I I did something called dick duk
and uh they have a a very place in
Chicago by the Walder family. this giant
building that they help Rabim after
hours and there's tons of Rabim and
Moros come there and they have machines
and you could do all this you know arts
and crafts they have artists over there
they they help Rabim draw so I went
there and I said I have a so the guy
over there he did something called dick
dickduck something like that like
instead of dick he made it dict and that
was our logo we did because I was
teaching also dict like mil how to so
I'm just dto here that's the word
Just Yeah.
Oh, if it's very fine
the
those little strings on on a palm tree.
They're too tough to fall on.
But if you like split them, then they're
softer.
This is super interesting. Sifted ash.
You have ash. Sift it. You have to No,
it's tough.
You didn't you don't sift the ash. So it
has it could absorb the fall. It's soft.
We're going on. We're not even there.
We're at number 16.
Thin sand is not a concern. It's soft.
If it's it's heavier, it's thicker, then
it could break bones. In other words,
don't think that oh, he fell on sand.
Sometimes sand is not very to fall on
in. I remember they had a truck like
over here. They bought a whole pile of
sand to make so kids would actually jump
out of very high like a third story fall
into the sand cuz it's like it you know.
So that's huh
>> right now. Right. That's outside.
>> But the kids play in it. They they're
like a little bit more dilation. I'm
talking about kids going to the
building. What are you doing? Fall in
like I'm good. Okay. [snorts]
straw made a bail out of straw. So now
it's a tough little it's a box.
But if you just have a a whole pile of
straw
wheat and everything that's similar to
wheat like
and uh rye
>> rye this is rashy rye
again anything that's similar to barley
barley and everything that's similar
wheat and everything they're tough
kidney all types of how you say kines
>> beans beans
They're softer.
>> Here
peas. No, this is a type. This is a type
of I guess a is is soft.
The arbas that we eat on those are
tough. Whoever goes to knows those are
tough.
They could crush your bones. Oh, finally
after 27.
Here's the rule.
Anything that's slippery, so it absorbs
more of the fall. You don't have to be
concerned about.
If it doesn't slide,
it has
I got to tell you.
Some of you are going to be bored,
especially those who heard it last
night.
It's one of my favorites
classic.
We lived in Kensington
on East Fourth Street. Just went by that
house. I knocked on the door, but they
weren't home. My father decided, my
father's a grownic. He went to the
mikvah every day. He decided he needs to
build a mikvah in his house.
So he we had no clue. He he called like
it's like $60,000 to build a mah. He's
like we're going to just build it
ourselves. So what do you do? Step
number one is break the basement floor.
So you break the basin floor. We start
digging. You start digging in Brooklyn.
It's
the the mice start coming out. You would
see them running around in the dirt. It
was it was crazy. So we had a mafa of
mice in our house. Mish mafa. It was
pretty gross. So no rats. No rats. Mice.
little mice. They would run around and
uh we were putting traps everywhere
around the house, including in my
bedroom. I had a glue trap.
One day I'm waking up for diving for I
think I was in Berlin. Wake up, I and
the first thing I do is I look over to
the to the wall over there and I see a
mouse is trapped trapped on on the glue.
Like I don't have patience with this
guy. I roll over, go back to sleep. I
don't know how much longer later. Must
have been before 2:00 in the afternoon
for sure.
I [laughter] wake up
and I come out of bed and as I put my
feet on the floor, I feel something
gooey, mushy on the bottom of my foot.
And I look down and I see a crushed
mouse.
But the problem is that my foot is on
the glue trap
and I can't get the glue trap off and
there's a dead mouse on my foot. So,
anybody that had the the experience to
touch a mouse, probably none of you in
this room, it's not a great experience.
Especially if you're a little bit of a
distance, if the guy next to me, he's
moving his foot over here and it bothers
me a lot. Imagine a mouse on the bottom
of your foot. How you doing? How you
doing?
Anyway, so I was able to pull and yank.
I got it off eventually. And then I I I
like rubbed my foot in the floor in the
carpet for like I don't know how long. I
was just rubbing. I thought maybe I had
a mouse on me. I was
shar on the bottom of my foot.
Fine.
But Bar Hashem that gave me a brilliant
idea. Why? Years later, I was already
married, living in Lincolnwood, and one
morning I hear
like a like one of those machines that
breaks concrete. That's what it sounded
like. And I come outside and I see a
woodpecker pecking at my window. So it's
a beautiful bird. Very rare even in
Lincolnwood. Look at that. The next day,
same thing.
Non-stop. Like crazy. Now, hello. It's
1:00. I'm still trying to sleep. What's
wrong with you? And this is before that.
Not 1:00 in the morning.
>> In the afternoon. Navi. Yeah.
Just just I want to for the mice. I got
to show the what it looks like over
here. This is what a woodpecker looks
like.
>> Look at the Look at the damage it could
cause.
>> That's a real house.
Smash what it sounds like. I'm serious.
And you're sitting you're like sleeping
right there next to It's not vine. And
then I remember the mouse. Oh my good
idea. So I go and I I I buy a a glue
trap. I take a ladder and I climb up and
I look where he made the hole and I put
it right below where he's making the
hole.
Next day
there's no noise. I come there, I see
like part of a [snorts] a woodpecker
feather on the glue trap and that was
it. He never came back again. [snorts]
So if anybody had Oh, why am I telling
you this? Misa
>> pigeons. They do it. They sell they sell
the stuff. They sell it. I have it. It
works. It works. They have a spray that
you put down and it and they
>> you want you want to pigeon with the
glue. You want to deal with it.
>> You did it.
>> No,
>> it's a great idea.
>> Do the spray
>> the spray. But the spray stays forever.
>> It makes it makes a mark. Yeah.
>> So says the Gamar like this. Here. Check
this out. It's unbelievable. My I didn't
invent this. This is in the time of the
Gar. This trick. I probably got it from
here. If you put down glue on a trap and
a bird's wing sticks to it and it falls
down, is that res or not? If the
woodpecker fall from the second floor
down to this, is that did his organs
break? Do we have to be concerned? So
goes through the whole thing. How many
wings got stuck? Because let's say only
one wing got stuck. So he has another
wing that could lessen the impact. We're
talking about impact. It's all about
impact on the same bail of hay.
Sometimes you break, sometimes it
doesn't if it's on the side. So over
here, all you need to do is flap your
wing a little bit. Maybe you lessen the
impact.
Okay, we're going to see a man that says
one wing doesn't work really. It barely
does anything. Okay, so let's see real
debug
deb. Oh, it reminds me remind of in the
time of we'll talk about it later.
Raashiar
if a bird falls down on a glue trap he's
stuck his wings are stuck he is also
according to Raash is not a problem
if the problem is one wing got stuck the
other wing is like like the mouse how
did the mouse make it to my bed because
only two of its feet got stuck on the
glue trap other two were off and he kept
on moving moving until he got to my bed
one wing is not the end of the world
he has one wing to to to lessen impact.
Keeping betray is two wings.
How is he going to stop his fall?
And we all think so. So what's the other
what's the other to say that it's okay?
So let's say this is my this is a wing
and my the wing is stuck in the glue but
you still have the rest of the wing that
he can move. It's not the whole wing is
stuck. The ends of it are stuck on the
glue, but from from where the the the
bone and the wing attaches itself to the
body can still move a little bit. That
moving
lessens the impact
some learner.
Two wings stuck to the glue trap.
Everybody agrees that it's he has no way
out of this. He's not He's just like a
human being falling off a fivetory
building. He can't flap anything. Flap
flap your hands. It's going to help you
keep
but there is one wing
he could he could fly a little bit with
one wing and therefore it lessens the
impact and the one who says that it's
there broken bones
I don't know exactly how it works but I
could assume a bird flies with two wings
and when one doesn't work then the other
one also doesn't fly it's not it's not
it's not a thing but doesn't the other
one is not doing much at all not like in
our video that he has like a
descent down
is when there are two wings stuck to the
glue trap. The animal has broken bones.
No, there is in fact a lessening of the
impact when there's one wing attached
here to remember this for all of he says
like this
in our days what do we do in rash's days
in the times of forget about in 2026
talking about how many years ago they
live 700 rashi how many years ago
>> thousand years yeah 1 thousand years
okay00 years ago. He says in it says
that anytime you have a problem with
Jerusale
that could open it up could look inside
that's in the earlier generations 1200
years ago
2000 years ago
we don't know what we're doing
can't rely we don't we don't know this
says Rash I don't I don't agree with
this
every generation this it makes a lot of
sense every generation has its own so
what we're
gave us the ability in every generation
every generation has their
he should bring all the best Guys,
unfortunately you I know you're all
excited about this, but doesn't pass
like passing then in our generation
we're not beheming this stuff. Okay,
>> X-ray find out or not,
>> but we don't know exactly what we're
looking for. If you're looking for
broken ribs and broken spine, you're
right. What about different uh internal
M? You need more of an MRI for intestine
and all that stuff.
>> You're talking about
>> huh? sing that one day.
All right, that's ready. That's a new
pun with it bring
comparing it to birds.
[clears throat]
So now we have a whole about ribs. Lucky
us. [snorts] We have crazy artists who
made this uh a lot more enjoyable for
us.
Mameish. Understandable.
>> Cater is going to bring ribs.
>> Oh,
>> ribs. You know how much a rib cost at my
daughter's wedding? That was seven years
ago. Each rib for
>> lamb chops.
>> Oh, yeah. Forget it. She's there.
[laughter] Lamb chop. It's a type of
rib. Yes.
>> Just a rib.
>> It's a lamb rib. as the caterer cuz I I
c what? My company catered it as the
caterer then but it's more expensive
then each lamp chop is $11. No, that's
why I said at least $11
>> but that that's just that's uh
>> cost
>> that's c but that prices went up since
then.
How many how many did you have? You
remember he still he could still taste
it still how much how many did you have?
It was a nice amount. Listen, you're
coming from you're still hungry food on
the flight.
Oh, so it says in the Mishna, if most of
its ribs were broken. Now, how many ribs
need a break? What's so an animal
actually has 26 ribs?
So Ry
would be 14 maybe. But
that's not the R. R is 12. Why? Cuz we
don't care about two of the ribs on each
side. We don't care about the two red
ones. Why don't we care about the two
red ones? According to one, okay, this
we're just going simple. Make it easy.
Rashy, these two, they don't have
marrow. They're without bone marrow. So
they're not. Yeah, they look like
everything else, but they're not. So
we're left with 11. All the white ones.
So what's the majority of 11? Six.
[clears throat] Now, you don't have to
have six on each side. As long as you
have 12 total broken ribs. You could put
all them on one side, all 11 on one
side, and one on the other side. That's
12. You can do six and six. You do it
any way you want as long as 12 are
broken from all these.
What part of the rib? See, the rib goes
all the way around.
So, it needs to be the upper part.
Great. Let's see inside.
Six on the other side.
11 on one side, one on the other side.
Here, take a look over here.
11.
They they break on the upper part. You
see there's even a a purple line over
there from that line. Let's call it
that's the halfway from that line up.
That's where it has to break
that where the ribeye is. Oh,
okay. Great.
We're talking about not the red guys.
We're talking about the ones the large
ones that have marrow
says
said
there's a difference between breaking
and
uprooting
detached completely.
There's more to get pictures here.
Here's here's a here's a cell that's
detached. They fit nicely into a ball
into a
>> socket. It's a ball and socket. And if
it pops out, that's worse than breaking
because now it has zero support. At
least what?
So if
all you need is six, a total of six on
one side
is less severe. If they break,
then you need a total of 12, not six. Do
>> they combine?
>> Yeah. Why not?
>> Like we said before, I think so.
I think what he means means that
the the majority of 11 I don't think it
means one side
>> says
no says
doesn't matter if they were uprooted
popped out completely broken you need
majority 12 broken or uprooted Omar Rav
and here we start a beautiful sug.
So step one in the sugi is Rav. Rav says
something very simple. One
uprooted
rib but with the vertebrae.
This animal is a goner trafe
one.
Something like this.
Maybe not this. Let's call it this. The
whole the whole um vertebrae is gone
over here.
I would actually remove a little bit
more from this over here. What?
>> That's no longer a rig issue. That's a
spine issue. It's a both.
>> Well, why it has it? Right. It has a
spine issue. Exactly. Spine, not a
spine. Not a spinal cord, but a spine
spine issue.
If one one vertebrae is completely
missing with one Yeah. You're saying if
it's missing then who cares about the
the rib?
>> Well, as we're going to see in the Gumar
is once the vertebrae is gone, then the
ribs are gone. Also, even if the ribs
are in place, they're worthless to me.
They're not giving any support at all.
They only give support because they're
attached to the main vertebrae. Once you
remove the vertebrae out and these guys
are standing there like this, they're a
bunch of gam. They're standing in
midair. They do nothing. That's what the
is going to say soon.
Okay. So, Rav what does Rav say? He says
one plus the vertebrae. This is a spine
issue. It's a tra automatically
relay.
So, the two ask Rav,
what if you have two
from both sides and they're opposing
each other. They're they're twins.
They're they're they're on the same
vertebrae but on both sides.
But the you ra we we wouldn't ask you
about two because you said one is no
good but one with the spine with the
whole vertebrae. I'm saying the
vertebrae is in place but two ribs
popped out of their sockets they're
gone. What's the mouth?
He said to them
what you're just describing is an animal
that's sliced in half. I'm not going to
show you the whole thing just to remind
you what gistra is.
We have an animal that's sliced in half.
It's trafe. Not only is it trafe, it's
an avail.
Oh,
>> I stopped it right in time.
>> Editor
editing.
>> Okay. [snorts]
What? No, you don't have a new editor.
>> No, you
>> Oh, I'm the editor. Yeah, I'm that
editor. Yeah. Okay.
So basically he said
when they're missing when it's missing
uh ribs from from uh
the pier, we'll call them a pier. What
are we going to call them? The two ribs
together from both sides. They they meet
in the middle. When they're both gone,
then think about it. The animal has a
bunch of a few inches with no rib and
the whole body is going to twist and
turn. It's not it's not a stable animal.
It's a it's a gistra.
ask of
it's a beautiful sug
when he says that the uh the vertebrae
is gone isn't that a gistra he says one
vertebrae is gone with one rib but guess
what if there's no vertebrae then both
ribs are worthless so it's also a gistra
his case of one vertebrae missing
actually means two ribs are missing as
well automatically the two ribs don't
mean anything even even if they're there
and they didn't move they're not there.
No. So, we're typical classic. We're
going to try to wiggle our way out of it
until we're stuck and then we're going
to come out with
maybe meant that the the rib is missing
but the vertebrae is in place. That's
impossible. But
he says that the vertebrae is missing.
So, don't try to tell me that the
vertebrae is in place. Okay. But what I
could try to do is I'll say
and that's what I'm going to stay with.
That's everybody's happy with that. Ra
didn't mean literally that the whole
entire vertebrae went went missing. He
meant to say that part of the vertebrae
is missing here like this.
So what does this what what does this
help me? This helps me that it's not a
gist. It's not an animal split in half.
It has some support on the other side.
It's it's intact. this part this this
part of the hoy is broken.
Okay, if that's the case,
obviously if they're asking if Raf said
that a half a ver vertebrae is missing,
a half a vertebrae and one rib is
missing. What does Raf say? Trafe gone.
So his would never ask him and and what
about two? Yeah. If one is no good, so
two is also trava that. So what did they
ask? Why do they ask two? They saying,
"But the vertebrae is intact." What
happens if two ribs are missing and the
vertebrae is 100% in good shape? What's
that? He told him
that that's considered
uh a split animal asked, "How could that
be? How how could you tell me that if
two ribs are missing, that's called an
animal that's split in half?"
Omar, we just read it. Zak says,
If you're talking about this case that
they popped out of place, it's not two
that makes it. You need Yeah,
you need a lot more. You need at least
six missing, not two or
when do you need arrive? When they are
lined up nicely, these ribs are missing.
You need six missing ribs because
they're not on opposite sides. But when
you have a pair,
that's terrible. Even two is worse than
six or worse than five, I should say.
Five missing, they're in order. Fine.
See, you're missing a bunch of ribs. But
when you have two ribs that are opposite
each other, they're appear that's a
terrible thing. That's that's what
Rafanas were talking about. That's a
different case.
But that's also not a good shot.
Says 12 are missing. Where do you think
you're going? You think you're going to
Austria or something?
>> No, I got to go somewhere else.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Say just to remind in case you weren't
here last night or this is the first
time you watching the sh. So,
I'm flying to Austria today for two
weeks. There will be another shar today
in Hebrew on Gimmel at 12:15. Basm and
from there hopefully it'll be over by
1:15 because I got to go to the airport
at 1:30. So what
>> and tonight basm she in Zurich Zurich we
don't know the place yet some schul
somewhere or somebody's house I don't
know approximately 10:30 so if you're in
Switzerland I love to meet you and get
to know you and see you at a live sheir
in Switzerland the following day she's
going to be in Austria which is
interesting
maybe I'll save it for tonight but my
grandfather the Stfanskies come from
Switzerland so that's night. My
grandmother comes from Austria. That's
tomorrow night. Ah,
yeah. Fisher. Fisher from Austria.
That's my grandmother from That's all
the Stfensky side. Yeah.
That's why I'm such a yucky. I'm like a
Swiss Austrian.
Get your feet in the
>> Okay.
>> [clears throat]
>> That's why I'm always on time also.
>> All Shir are on time. How you doing?
Don't smile when I say I'm on time.
>> 510 is there. 710.
>> No, it's 610. It's 1 hour difference.
>> 610.
>> No, no, no. I'm going to give Sheir
earlier. I'm going to give Shir the
night before.
>> It's going to be recorded.
>> Record it. What's the difference? It's
on the screen. You won't know if it's
live or not.
>> Okay.
Okay. Listen to this. Let me
Let me show it to you over here and
you'll see how beautiful this is. Says
that 12 ribs are missing. Six from each
side. Even if you do six from each side,
you're going to have one overlapping
because it's 11 on each side. If you
take six out of 11 on the bottom and six
out of 11 on the top, that's he says you
need at least 12 broken. One of them is
going to be overlapping. So what in the
world are Raf Kahana and Raasi adding to
the question
Raban says you need 12 ribs missing. So
they ask but what if they're
overlapping? What if they're facing each
other? Spoke about a case that one is
that two are facing each other because
there's no other way. It doesn't matter
if you put all 11 on the bottom and one
on the top. One of them is going to be
overlapping. The one on top is going to
be overlapping.
Very simple. No, the math is beautiful.
You need to have six on each side.
It's impossible that you don't have a
situation where one is against facing
the other. So what what was the question
that had says
first of all the words this is pestil
and mortar right
you go like this you put the so this is
the
socket and this is the ball and it goes
in like that so one case is
ref kahan ask were asking when the
socket and the ball both broke
everything broke
which is you should be asking yourself
so that makes no sense because that
that's what Rav was talking about. We
already established Rav the Rebi spoke
about one rib broken with a little bit
that popped off the vertebrae. So then
why would Raf Kahan Ravasi ask about a
question of two two ribs
with a broken or missing vertebrae?
That's the Gar's next question. But he
he says was talking about that the ribs
popped out nicely like this. So that's
why you need 12
ravanasi.
We're talking about this case two of
them that broke the the the vertebrae.
You see there's a piece of vertebrae on
the rib. That's what they were asking.
So two is worse than 12 because the
broken rib broken asking
rav didn't really speak about a a
complete bro a missing uh says but it
doesn't matter he said even in a
situation where part of the vertebrae
broke off one one is tra so why are you
asking about the same exact case too
says
they asked the question cuz They had no
idea. [clears throat] They had no idea
that Raph said that one is one is a
problem. Again, what does Rav say? One
rib missing, but the vertebrae broke off
with it. Trafe. They come along and they
ask the Rebi, "Uh, Rebi, what about two
ribs that have a broke it broke off a
piece of the I already said one is no
good when it has a broken vertebrae. So
certainly two is no good." The says,
"No, they never heard that he said
that." That's what they asked him. Now,
you have to ask yourself though, time
out. If you were a Talmud and you were
asking your Rebi a question about a
broken a missing rib with a broken
vertebrae, would you ask him rebi what's
that about? One or you jump and say
what's about three broken ribs. Which
one would you do?
>> One. You start off slow. You ask one. So
why would they jump the They never heard
anything about ribs with broken
vertebrae. So they asked him about two.
Why don't they ask him about one? It's a
lot makes a lot more sense. Rebby, one
rib with a broken vertebrae. Is that tra
or not? No, they didn't ask him They
said rebi two ver two two ribs with two
broken why were they asking that so the
gar says we'll say about pet listen to
this it's a nice
it's a riddle it's a riddle here's the
riddle you have one question to ask your
rebi the r is very very busy the whole
generation is there you can just imagine
100 people in line you can't drive him
crazy you have to ask him one question
in out think before you ask ask the
proper question you want to know all so
if you ask him about one vertebrae
that's broken with the with with the uh
one vertebrae with a with a rib and he
and he answers you it's kosher you'll
never know what about two
and if he says strafe then you will know
he says strafe so certainly two great
but what if he says it's kosher and I
only have one question it's a riddle
it's one of those riddles the guy's in
the room and you don't know and you have
to ask you have one but if he asks about
two then I can figure it out how if he
says it's kosher Then 1 2 3 4 they're
all kosher. But if he says it's strafe,
then I know two is strafe. But how will
I know one is strafe? Oh, I will know
one is strafe because the way he answers
it. If he's annoyed at me and he says
two is tra, that means of course one
because one is also trave. So what do
you ask me about two? So he says it with
a little bit of anger in his in his
voice. You have to read the body
language. It's not just the words that
come out of his mouth. You say Rebby is
two two ver two two ribs missing with
the vertebrae broken off is that kosher
or not? He says it's strafe. Meaning one
is strafes. Of course, two is strafe.
But that's only if you that's why you if
you have one question to ask, you have
to ask about two.
>> It's a ribble.
>> It's a ribble. Very nice. M. She's he
would be very proud of you. He'd be very
proud of you. It's a It's a riddle. A
ribble.
>> Okay.
>> Very nice.
>> Getting vertigo from
>> He's getting vertigo from the ribb. But
you're saying that you have to manage
start reading him to get it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. All throughout chass
throughout chess with Rav, you always
read.
>> It's like
>> that's how they work.
>> It's like you can't think twice.
>> You can't learn like that.
>> They don't come and ask like a like a
like a like a
>> n
>> but that's the whole gamar. The whole
gamar the whole is like this.
>> Let's just say it inside. So ask why
don't we why don't he ask a question of
Rav's case? What's Rav's case? one rib,
one missing vertebrae.
So they said
there's only four more lines to the then
we're going to very easy stuff. They
said we're going to ask one question and
we're going to have two answers from
that. We would ask what's about one rib
missing with a vertebrae missing.
He told us this is great for there
everything else is but the problem is he
says one rib that's broken off with a
vertebrae is kosher and there's a big
chance he'll say that
just also the the the the respect they
had for him.
>> The it's it's like we're not on his
level. We we don't we talk with complete
fear.
If he says that it's kosher, I won't
know what to do with two and I have to
ask another question. I can't do that.
But it doesn't make sense what you're
saying.
They ask him about two. That's great.
It's kosher. So one is kosher. Two is
certainly if two is kosher, one is
certainly kosher. Everything else is
kosher.
But what happens if he says two is which
we know is strafe.
I won't know what about one. Maybe one
is kosher, one broken off.
You have to read his body language. You
have to read his word. How he says it.
He would be very mad and he would say,
"What are you asking me a question about
two? One is strafe." Of course, two is
strafe. He wouldn't say like that. He'd
say, "Two is strafe."
But that didn't work. That trick didn't
work. There's no body language.
Rav said answered. But what? No. The
says, "No, no, no. If you look, if think
about what Raf said,
he did. He said it. He was annoyed at
them. He said, "What you're saying,
that's a case of gist." He said it like,
"Oh, it's gist." Like, what are you
asking me? That's a animal broken in
half.
That's a That's Think about it. That was
a little bit of more than trafe. He
could have said trafe. He didn't say
trafe. He said, "Ah, it's a gist." Gist.
Oh, that means one is one is tra. What
do you ask me about two? Two is a animal
that's cut in half. Next, here we go. If
you remember in the bay, I can't believe
it. It's already 10 days ago. We're
still in this peric.
Ah, we're having a lot of fun with this
per.
It says in the mission, there's 18
traphus. Ask the garb there's more than
18. And that's where we introduce the
word.
There's another seven. So now we're
going to talk about three out of the
seven. And who said that
is the one that mentioned the
it says or part of it
says here's three of them. There's
another three
that are not mentioned in the mishik.
If a brib was uprooted from the root
mish like this uprooted
or a skull that was bashed in somebody
took a bat whacked it on the head and
most of it 51% of the skull is broken.
The is going to describe where what part
of the skull is 51%.
And the the the stomach the bottom part
of the animal
here just uh here this you see this is
the the the
red that's the meat that that covers
let's just for argument sake that's
covers it it's the outside meat but it
covers the intestines okay so says the
gar
>> tra these three are trfel
if you tell me one rib popped out of its
socket it's
We had this when you have a dead person
in a room it the whole room.
What if you have just a skull or just a
spine? Also the spine a whole spine but
what if the spine is missing
two vertebrae that it gives tuma gives
red to the entire room. a spine also
gets to but if you have two vertebrae
missing there's no in the room
one vertebrae missing so who's more mahm
here is more mak why they say that the
tuma the red keeps on spreading and
spreading unless you remove a lot if you
remove a little just one vertebrae it
continues to spread so there will be
tuma in this room up until a point where
you take two vertebrae out or you
started with two vertebrae less I should
say
here again says that this we had this
remember 10 days ago this same applies
to tra in other words if you have an
animal that's missing one vertebrae you
could eat it it's not it's not a it's
not a tra if it's missing two vertebrae
then it becomes a tra all of a sudden in
the case of tra the same bish who are
bum they're le by eating because you can
eat it up until you have two full
vertebrae missing
a bon what do you see from here if you
don't have vertebrae you don't have a
vertebrae you don't have ribs
so you need at least one whole vertebrae
missing which means two ribs missing
according to and according to you I need
two vertebrae which is four ribs missing
so how are you telling me one one rib
missing is is is a traa when in fact the
minimum is two ribs missing says
there's a big difference. We're talking
about
ribs missing without the vertebrae
versus a a vertebrae missing without
ribs. How's that possible?
I could hear that you have ribs missing
without a vertebrae. They popped out.
How do you have a a vertebrae missing
without ribs? If the vertebrae is
missing, then the ribs are missing. No,
it's at the end of the spine. The end of
the spine here like something like this.
Once the ribs are they stop the ribs and
then you have all these bones right over
here. These guys those are vertebrae
without ribs.
Shami.
Why is this not mentioned in the list of
things that Shami say? It's a cool that
what you could eat a animal that's not
up until more vertebrae are missing. So
that's a bigger ka
says
you're right. It is a ka but this whole
this whole suga of missing vertebrae was
said by the tum
and that's why over there in that sugra
you're right if you flip it it becomes a
ka in the the of but it wasn't said in
is the one that made the comparison from
the of tum to the of but it was said in
the of in therefore it turns out the
bish are the in that case thera
two very quick things about humus and
kulas. So
>> what?
>> Yeah. Rafikshinberg
he he said it's a it's you can take this
to a lot of different things.
I don't think anybody's going to listen
to this one, but it's just it's a it's
an idea. He said that don't be on the
yeshiva. So he said to wash your hands
after you go to the bathroom. You only
have to wash once per per hand. So when
you're using more water in the yeshiva
on the yeshiva's account because they
pay for the water bill don't don't be
mak and wash your hands three times on
each hand that's your that you do at
home not not in my sink and didn't
believe that he said that what water so
he waited until went to the bathroom or
something he went and he jumped in he
started washing his hand and he got a
mus from him said oh another interesting
ma was that some guy went to and said
look when my wife makes uh chicken soup
I have to you know at the table the kids
they don't eat they only eat the the
pure meat off the bone so I have to take
the bone out and the skin it's a little
bit of a problem of ber so should we
take that stuff out before shabas is for
the of so he said but who's going to end
up doing it you or your wife
and that was the end of the conversation
in other words don't be a big mah don't
bring into the house that have to do
with your wife doing the work and you're
sitting there
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>> Oh, it's an hour already. 8:12. Okay. Um
we're Yeah. What are we going to do
here? We got to do a little bit more.
You have a skull that was crushed
mostly.
I don't know what does it mean real
quickly. Goa means you make a line by
the eyes and you measure upwards. 51% of
that blue line the arrow that's ora
means you take a measuring tape and you
do the circumference around the entire
head and 51% of that I don't know if
it's the the height or the width so to
speak.
Yeah.
And if you have a cut from that meat on
the bottom of the stomach, that's a kua.
So here's a picture.
This is a tear, a majority tear in that
meat. And here's most of it missing. It
went missing. Which one is it? Does it
mean missing? 51% missing or 51% tier.
I could prove it. Now let's go back. Do
you remember who's the one that said the
chef
is the one that says so let me bring a
what you also have to recall from two
days ago we had seven what aisim means
and then we know what means we had seven
closest to the kis where the hair
started once said the entire kis whole
thing. So one of the wasra
says over here it ripped
there's a little puncture in the but the
outer one was completely was was torn.
It doesn't say that was our question is
it removed or torn over here it says
torn. Now let me prove to you that it's
talking about our case and they say
what's
it's the entire
so the entire what does mean it's not
even referring to the car again what's
caris just when an animal eats it goes
into a pouch called a car the first
stomach the second stomach is basis
third he says fourth ka this kis
pim means the entire car. So what's it's
not even referring to the car. It's
referring to the meat that's on the
outside of the car. Oh, and that meat it
says it to. So what's the ria? It's not
that it's removed. It's a riot to this
that it's this case right over here and
not this cuz it says it was torn. Says
wait a minute over there. Who said this
or somebody else? Somebody else. Guess
what says his own? We're trying to prove
one of the chef Schmita in the Schmita.
Is it a rip or is it missing? Oh, it's a
rip because somebody else said in
means it doesn't fit. Doesn't go with
trying to to figure out
was the one that said a place that
doesn't have any wool like like the
little lumps over there.
Uh we got to do this little then we'll
finish.
It says in the Mishna that uh a wolf and
a lion brings al but a wolf has venom in
its nails. Some learn it means bacteria
some learn literally it has venom in its
nails.
Says rav when it comes to a larger
animal
talking about let's say a cow. So any
animal larger than a z according to most
the argues but according to a lot of it
means what's larger than a wolf a hyena
>> a leopard
a beer
>> lion
>> certainly a lion for sure even the rush
agrees to because that's in the all
these have venom
when it comes to birds
anything larger than a hawk here's a
hawk I heard they have them here in they
have them in we picture is a guy. I
don't want to say who. Somebody was
going to bring a hawk to shear today.
It's going to be beautiful. And he's
actually even offered for it to feed it
to give it a live mouse and it'll grab
it. And then he says, "No, no, no. That
that's two years of jail.
>> Two years in jail.
>> Where he lives, he has it. They have it
in the moshab or something. He grab it.
You go to jail for two years. It's not
worth it." I said, "It is worth it." No,
he didn't want to come.
So
>> in Chicago once in a while I tell you
they they're unbelievable flyers the
pigeons birds just walking around in
your backyard they come out of nowhere
in between branches swift down and just
grab it with and they take it put it
down in the backyard in front of
everybody and they start eating it while
it's alive going to talk about they they
start pecking at it and the bird is
scream you know moving around doesn't
matter and then when it's done the the
place is a mess there's there's feathers
everywhere and just sits there minds his
own business and then the birds are
scared to come to your backyard for a
while then they forget and then he comes
again. Fine.
So it says oh from a wolf and up
it's coming to exclude a cat.
It says only a wolf and up. A cat is
much smaller than a wolf
maybe. No, it means also uh
that a wolf is is capable of inserting
venom and inflicting a traa to a larger
animal.
So in other words, not a catac.
It's not true that a
a wolf is in a smaller animal and a
larger animal is and a larger not a wolf
only a larger predator like a lion
is not coming to explain the but he's
arguing
we have a says rebu came to explain says
so what if he said he that it's coming
to explain I hold not coming Explain I
argue on I say that review comes to
argue
it's coming to exclude a cat that a cat
cannot inflict damage to a sheep and a
goat that sort of thing. Billani the
reason why I mentioned a wolf cuz wolf
is famous wolf wolf actually do kill
sheep not so much cats and I think a cat
is also something that can inflict
damage to uh sheep kash no only a wolf
and up inflict damage boy have a
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