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So whoever could go visit he lives here and what is it called? Do not tell him that you heard it in the shelv turning of the daff. >> Not yet on steroids. >> Okay. So, there are two that are new to us when it comes to one we learned, one we didn't know about. Here's number two. Number one is that as you areing the parad you cannot do any other you can't do anything else besides the paradum you can't cut another watermelon at the same time you can't beic with anything you can't text message anyone you got to be concentrated on that one task the other is that you could only one paradum at the same time. You cannot anything else with it. Can't she two paradumas you can't aadum and another animal. Therefore, if he's a parad and at the same time he's trying to save time by him trying to save time he lost $3 million. Everybody will agree that the is possible because it says means only it and nothing else. What about the other animal? >> The other animal is kosher. There's no reason why the other animal should be kosher. Shouldn't be kosher. It's kosher. Now you have to put in with a pencil. If you shifted another animal without intent of the other animal, let's do this bal. It's very gishmak. If you had no intent, you didn't you didn't want to shift another animal. Is it a good or not a good that was a yesterday according to NASA it's a good and according to it's not a good and we passing like it's a good according to that it's a good and you did a paradum with it but by mistake you did another black and white cow it's a good the black and white cow so what happens to the paradum >> puzzle because you're not two things at the same time but according to that the black and white cow is not a good cuz you didn't know about it. So you didn't check another one with the paraduma. You only checked it the paraduma by itself. The nice sliced into the to the other animal. Oh, and what about the fact that you're not allowed to slice a watermelon and by you by you slicing into the black and white cow is like slicing a watermelon. The answer is that if you slice into a watermelon without knowing it, it's not a problem because you are with it. The problem is when you take off your concentration from the paradum and start concentrating on a black and white animal or in a a watermelon but over here you didn't know it was there. So it's not a problem at all. Either way it's not a problem. So says the inside according to that says that you could another animal by mistake and it's a good so turns out that you just two cows at the same time and therefore the becomes possible because you're not two animals at the same time because it says only one but what about the black and white cow the $3 million cow is completely possible throw it out But the the 2,00 the the $2,000 whatever it cost $2,000 cow is completely kosher because even though you didn't know you're shifting it, it's okay to sh something without knowing say you have to have when you the is kosher. Why? Because you didn't sh anything with it. Why didn't you sh anything with it? Because the black and white is puzzle. So the black and white is ple and the red is kosher because you only chef that you had kavon for the red. So it's the opposite of according to the black and white kosher the red puzzle. Come in. I think there's a seat right over here. And there's also a kid standing in the back. You don't have to stand. There's a seat over here. Come in. Come in. Right over here underneath the TV next to Dave. The famous Dave. You sit next to Dave. says um this whole idea that if you work with a you don't work with this is all stuff that we learned says no I want to tell you in the second black and white cow I would think that the words means he could only not a second one but what does it mean not a second one I would think that you can't check two red cows together. But when it comes to a black and white cow together with a red cow, it shouldn't it shouldn't affect the red cow. The red cow should be kosher that no matter what any it doesn't matter what kind of cow you cannot check two at the same time. That's the this this case right over here as you cut a watermelon you cut a gourd you're not you're not allowed to multitask it's also to multitask I heard a very nice v what's the while you're doing the you say these words. The question is the voice the sound is very good. So why don't you say something important like say start saying you know start saying to the it will be better and the answer is you cannot mix with you can't do two things at the same time you can only do one thing as soon as you start learning Tyra then you're learning Tyra you're not doing when you do you have to concentrate on so you say things that are that that have to do with even though they're not important words had when you're when you when you're shifting apart It's grinding. They're grinding the >> Yeah, you're grinding it, right? >> The noise of the grind. The noise of the grinding. Not talking. >> No, no, no. The noise of the thing. >> You say you say these words. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> He says he says these words. >> Okay. From now for now for now you'll know >> says that says that he said it >> it's settled. >> Wait. So what do you say? Is it he said or not? Of course you >> No, the saying is that's not a question. He said he says he says it but they thought that the the coil the coil is not the saying the coil is the machine. >> If it just happened to be cut as you were cutting the thing you didn't have any intent that doesn't ruin it. We we we're learning what the problem with doing something else is doing something is not the actual physical doing. Do doing is that it takes away from the mind. You a person physically cannot do two things. Don't listen to your wives or whatever. I you can only focus on one thing at once. That's it. That's all that's all a human being can do for most human beings. >> Oh, you already have. Yeah. says the Mishna. >> What happens on it? >> We have we have such we have people that are and then we have people we have people that are on. Nobody know I'm just saying we have in this room not going to go into details. We have people that know better than >> who disagree. So it happens all the time. A person ising the knife falls out of his hand. Can he continue? What is that called? >> What is what's how much of a pause is considered a pause to ruin the so we have different cases. Some of them are deliberate, some of them by mistake. Different things happen to a person. For instance, sack his knife fell down. One of his garments fell obvious when I'm learning this tells me no like you'll see in your video like what are you talking about? What video? He listen you guys you go through the d and you look for the the most extreme part of the daf. Okay, whatever. So there's a miso. I I personally don't know the the so I could say it. I hope I'm not insulting anybody. There's a they say it's a ma. Let me ask. He's here. >> Who's yummy shoner? >> You know the guy? Yummy shoner. He says uh learning from Robert Early with gratitude to Hashem for everything. He learned from you to give money to MDY. You don't even know the guy. No. >> Okay. >> That's why I did it. >> Okay. So, in the middle of he's holding the dal and he's holding his m and all of a sudden he feels that he's going to lose one of his garments. So he he like whispers to the gaba. So the gab the I mean the gaba GOES and the whole they said it aloud and then they had a they had he was just whispering to him that >> I'm telling you a hole in my sock. You want you want you want sources? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Another ma >> one that is is is ho might have fallen off. So you have to bend down. You have to stoping pick up. He was in the middle of sharpening the blade. It takes a lot of strength to sharpen blade and he got really tired say his friend came and did the for him. So now what what how much of a pause is too much if he if he stopped and waited the amount of time it takes to do a full how much is that guess how much that is how much is that seconds 3 seconds 10 seconds so I asked she gave me some numbers but obviously I told him to begin with I said what I'm asking you is autbah I know it's a makes no sense to ask such a question but I need some like some guideline. So he left me maybe 10 minutes worth of messages going through the whole parish and that you know there's different countries do different things. The animal could be standing it could be laying could be upside down. Does the wash the neck or does somebody else wash the neck back and forth? Are you pulling? Are you this? Are you just And then he says when it comes to birds to chickens he says in a lot of the they make the hold onto the chicken. So the the has to grab the wings in a certain way bend the neck back. So that takes a bunch of time. He says many places a guy goes over to you gives you the just holds it and you just go that could take a second. Some some places the chicken is already on the line. The line is that moving thing. So it just comes as it's moving just grabbing it's also less time than when the gives you back and forth a whole thing but what it came out this is like a he says a lot of don't allow more than 10 birds a minute so that's 6 seconds a bird some allow 15 the real mak ones like the badat whatever there's 10 you have raot that's closer to 14 I think it was whatever it is it's different He says, "But it doesn't matter. A good could do more than that. When it came to be like the the really large animals, it came to it was a and then you check your knife, you look into the sim." So it came I'm just throwing this out. It could be it's completely wrong. One and a half minutes per large animal. Now it could be it's less if he's just doing we're going to see in the Gar. Does it include knocking the animal down to the ground? Obviously, it takes a bunch of time to knock an animal down to the ground. That's one in that plus the or you already have a knockdown animal and you're ready to go. So, just for the shear for today, now nobody hold me to this at all. Just we're going to say a bird is 6 seconds and a and a large animal is a one and a half minutes. Just a knife. So, we have a little bit to work with nothing. We had a whole part of my life. My a big part of things that occurred in my life is exactly because of these numbers. There's a whole a big a whole tuml in my family about what how much could you possibly chef and it was a big it took up a big a large part of my life. Seriously, this this idea without going into details. Oh, no. Sorry. So, not going to make it to the book. No is a real is because of the just this idea means to check the knife. How long does it take to check a knife? I forgot to ask. I'm assuming that it's less than the itself. It's going up and down with your nail and you do it pretty quickly and we said on the sides also I think if they're good they can do it in you know let's call it 30 seconds but it's not one and a half minutes could be faster >> huh the chicken could be faster. >> Yeah. And also the Tyus also points out that the the depends on the size of the knife right there's a small knife. Look at this knife. This knife is where is it? This blade is tiny compared to the gassa. I mean, it's a third of the size. So, so to do a bique on this is a third of the time. Okay. Now, I'll just show you this video. Here we go. Boy side. This is the whole Mishna tied into one. Mito. His knife fell. So if a guy could step in there as he's taking a nap, it says and he got tired as he was sharpening the blade and he got tired another guy came. So it depends how long it took him. If he did if he moved in quickly within a minute and a half let's call it for the so it's good. If not it's possible. or let's call it 30 seconds. If he was able to get there within 30 seconds, then he did it. How much is in order to sh another animal from beginning to end? So, we'll call it one and a half minutes. So told while you'reing animals, I understand it's one and a half minutes that you get to pause and take a nap, but when you're doing birds live, but if it only takes six seconds per bird, so maybe you only get six seconds, maybe when you're doing birds, you still get one and a half minutes because there's a There's a it's a you get a is one and a half minutes. How do you know how much the time it takes to but even when you're doing birds you have that one and a half minutes says it's unbelievable here. I wasn't in a good mood >> with my uncle. We weren't in good in good terms. My uncle, me, Rav, and my uncle. >> The uncle wasn't. >> The uncle wasn't >> bae. Okay. The uncle wasn't >> one of us wasn't in a in in in the proper >> I wasn't We weren't in good we weren't in good terms. Then he wasn't. In other words, I couldn't ask him the question because of one of our moods. >> He says it the way you said. >> It says it says that Obey. It sounded to me that it was him himself. >> So what he says different than he says he says what says that later >> later on. Okay. Yeah, >> tube shot him up just to remind because it's fascinating. Had a sister from his mother's side and he had a brother from his father's side. The sister and the brother were not related. They were both related to him. It was brother and sister. That brother and sister got married. That kid would not be accepted to any yeshiva today. But he turned out to be Rav. So that's my uncle, my beloved. My uncle didn't I couldn't ask him. I don't know. I never asked him. So and then the says a fascinating thing. So he he was he was he was he didn't get the answer from his uncle. So he said, I don't know if that's the reason, but he said, "No, when you chicken, you don't get the minute and a half. You only get 6 seconds." No, even when you chickens, you get one and a half minutes. And and also holds, you get one and a half minutes throughout whatever you sticks in something. No, no, no. get much more than one and a half minutes as long as it takes you to get another animal from somewhere else. Makes no sense. Sometimes you have to go all the way to >> Brazil >> to Brazil. I don't know where exactly you have to go to to get an animal says that means that it depends where the animal is. Sometimes it's an hour away, sometimes 10 minutes away, some four days away. No, no, no, no. It doesn't mean to get another animal. It means to get the other animal down on the ground. So over here you see knocking down uh a,000 lb animal or wild beast in seconds. Yeah, it's not a problem for him. But we're talking about a regular human being. >> Takes for a cow, it takes a good few minutes. I'm going to assume until you tie its legs down. Until you trip it up, it takes a a nice amount of time. So says, "No, the shear is one and a half minutes." As long as it takes you to says, "No, as long as it takes you to knock an animal down, 5 minutes plus one and a half minutes." So you get a total of 6 and 1/2 minutes. If you take a nap in between, you start checking, you take a nap, you you go, you start whatever you do, you you sharpen your knife, you have six and a half minutes. He says, you got to lift the animal up, knock it down to the ground. So, it takes a little bit here. Where was it? Something like this. And I don't know if there's Looks like uh mayer. Okay. Um guy uses a really bad blade. It cuts but takes some time to cut. Even if a person shacks all day long, as long as he's cutting, he's making progress. Caution. Hey, you Israeli driver. Leah, THIS SHA WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE. Look at this car. YAKUROP. VERY SHARP. Very only $5 in Timi. Kame Xen Oai. No, boys. >> Saba. Saba, stop. It no cut cow. Very bad knife. Maybe order new knife on AliExpress. >> The famous Lincoln line. He says, "You give me six hours to cut down a tree, I'll take four hours to sharpen the axe and two hours to cut the tree." In other words, the preparation is a big is the of everything. The more you prepare, the better the outcome. You can sit there with a with a dull axe and and try to cut down a tree, it take you 4 days. But if you spend the time to sharpen the axe, it'll only take you two hours. Huh? Say it all the time. I was in construction for a very long time. The the more time the the guys prepped like let's say for painting or whatever it is, especially in painting, let's say they put tape around the windows, this the more prep they took doors out, whatever. They had the the plates on the on the electric. It was a much better job versus just coming in start painting. You smere up the ceiling and the windows. Then you have to spend all this time to clean the window. If you prep well then aoyas >> not like >> no over here it's nerv a guy like me walks into any building and starts it's very hard for me very hard for me to walk around here so you have to get a good you have to get a good painter you pay you get what you pay for that's the bottom line in all these things just remember that >> you hear what I'm telling you anybody doing construction you get what you pay for if you have a cheaper contractor, you're not saving money. You get what you pay for. You're going to pay for it in another way somewhere else. We have to change out a whole door because of this and that. It costs more money than the other guy wanted to be. And aggravation is also part of unbelievable. Let's say you get a minute and a half to pause. So, what if he paused for a half a minute at 9:00, a half a minute at 10:00, and another half a minute at 11:00? He's going all day long. So, he wants to take a little break. He's tired. His arm is falling off. So, he pauses, but he knows that you're not allowed to pause for one and a half minutes. But if you set a timer, does it does it accumulate? Does the Shia accumulate? And of course, I'm not going to go into the whole var. We'll just do everybody knows the var. One of the most famous vers of all time. >> 12 + 12 doesn't equal 24. It's punovich math. It's not gif. It's such a famous v you can't even make a mistake on this one. It's I saw it inside 25 24 times at least. I just can't tell you what. But it's there. I guarantee you it's there. Yeah. Fine. It could be he said it over. A lot of people don't in 10 years from now they'll say it. Oh. In other words, if you take a pause, anytime you take a pause, I say this because I say this to myself. It it hurts a lot. Yesterday, no one fix called me a miller. Ignored it. Ignore. Because when you I'm telling you ignore I can't it's not child answering one message takes you out for 10 minutes just not just you're you're in a zone you're concentrating all you have to answer some and that's just nature it's all it's all compared to the gamar it's The worst is he he's it's it's Yosi Klein got the deny. So he goes to Noah. Maybe no one can get through. So it's two. I get two for the same message. Dr. Gimaro, >> but you gave me the recipe. >> What's the You want to know how to make the special sauce that goes together to fill the fish? No, I'm just kidding. The recipe. The recipe. Yeah, I know recipes. You take two eggs and you go like this. That's the only thing I could do. Scrambled egg. >> Oh, didn't you just say that a guy ising all day long with a bad knife? Obviously, he's going to take a pause there. How you go 24 hours straight without taking a pause? So, you see pauses do not accumulate. Otherwise, how did he do it? Says, "What do you mean? I'm talking about he he checked it all day long." non-stop, but if you stop, maybe it's bad. So, this is unbelievable. We had a very similar question two days ago. A guy takes a knife and he Where's my new pipe? I have a behemagasa trachea. He let's say that amount he perfect is it a good it's a good arrive now he waits 2 minutes he waits 2 minutes two full minutes which is more than one and a half minutes that you're allowed and then he puts the knife in the same exact thing and he goes and he shs more problem and not a problem so what's the problem But he shut it already. But whoever was paying attention two days ago, we had the same exact question by what happened by the Gumar asked the same question. He did. It was a perfect and then he sticks the knife in. He buries it and then he goes v. So what's the question? What was question? He already did a whole whole. So Rashi explains because it's one longita and he messed up at the tail end. So over here also he he he did a if he would have stopped and gone home it would have been perfect. The problem is he continued. Who asked you to continue? You continued and you did a shah in between it's a problem. Listen to this. And Rashi says here something unbelievable. He sticks in there veneer. Listen to this. A guy, it happened to me. I saw with my own eyes. A guy shuck at a cow and they're they're they're on to the next cow. They don't wait. So they release him from the box. The cow stood up and started running around the place. His head gushing everything. Guys are running out of the way. They're holding on. They're like the legs are in the air holding on to machines. A guy pulls out a gun, starts shooting. Don't ask. It was a mess. So what are you doing in such a situ? I'm not joking. It's sacious. A a cow out of control. Smash you into a piece of metal over there. People are hanging, dangling, screaming. They have a system. guy. Literally, they're taking out weapons. Crazy. So, says we're talking about a bird here. He sees the bird is going crazy. The bird is not dying. He has a He's going to take a knife, same knife he's holding in his hand, and continue to give him, knock his head off, finish off the job. You're not going to go back to that place. give him a whack in the head but don't go back to that place cuz you go back to the place the says take the say I don't know what the is fascinating huh you did it you did a complete and everybody says hey it's 100% good it's you can eat the bird right now no but if you continue you make it worse so you have a bird that's out of control make sure you don't cut it in the neck says says that if that argues he says it's not it's checking the knife how much is that you got to go all the way to a smart to the city every lives in a different place sometimes you have to travel 2 hours to get to so is it a 2-hour thing sometimes he's in your building you get lucky you live you live right next to I to wise knocked on the door next door. She says he lives right over here. What a it is to live next to him. A whole thing. Sometimes you have a you live mish next to to the door to to whatever it's a it's 1 minute 10 seconds. What is it? It's if he himself the himself knows. So how long does it take him to and then go with his finger like this? Whatever that is 30 seconds you get 30 seconds says the Mishna. So let's do this b for a second. You come to an animal and you see that his trachea his this is the breathing pipe is completely disconnected and then you go ahead and you sh this pipe one pipe. What you just do is the animal kosher to eat? Absolutely not. You didn't shuck this pipe. This pipe was already disconnected. The big question of the Mishna is how do we view the animal? Did the help at all? Because a lot of times helps to remove tuma. If it has a hole in the heart and you shed it, then it's great. It's a good you can't eat the animal, but there's no tuma. What if it doesn't have a hole in the heart? It has a removed trachea. It's popped out of its place and you shed one simmon. Did you remove the toma? No. What do you guys say? You say no. >> You say no. Anybody say yes. >> Says yes for a second, then he takes it back. We're going moving on to different now. It's called to to pop out a simmon. Hefted the esophagus, the eating tube. Then he messed up on the trachea on the breathing tube. He he as he's shifting it, he popped it out. He did something wrong with the knife. So he only shuffed it really one out of the two sims. Or he started out really bad here. Oh, this is nish. This is not a good This is not good for us. I wanted to show where he popped it out himself. Okay, it's one of this next one. Maybe he didn't have a tra to deal with. He's only has the esophagus. One out of the two. It's a funny noise the speakers are making up there. >> Oh, it's a coffee machine. Sorry. Or he only shuffed one out of the two. Obviously, he shuffed one out of the two. It's nothing. It's not a good but the question here is not whether it's a good the question is is it or has mass if you touch it you become tummy you carry it you become tummy what's you hid the knife let's see you see over here the knife is hidden it's underneath the the >> it's underneath both sim it's hidden And then he goes after it's hidden he goes and he sh he he goes in upward motion. It's the wrong motion. Instead of coming down from the trachea downwards he goes from the safic is upwards says this is not a valid. It's not a valid. The animal is is a reala it's like a dead horse a dead cat a dead cow. It gives tuma. No, at the end of the day he performs here and therefore removes. Sov says a rule as you're performing the you create a you create if you did a as you perform then the animals in a vea. So over here you performed a and you realized you messed up on the trachea. We ripped the trachea out of its place before the the sophagus after the sophagus only the trachea. It was during so it turns into let's say I had a hole in the heart but you did a great puzzle if if that's this the other thing caused the hole in the heart caused it to be possible but it was a good then it's a there's no says the admitted to that you're right you are right in other words if I mess up during Every there's no anymore. Everybody agrees. It's an in says we have to remember these three words over here. These two words that's the next coming up in 10 days. Part of it I'm going to be in Austria. But per we want to do even before that we want to do a live demonstration of all the traers of all the animal ins. It's going to be soon. It might even be tomorrow. We'll see what happens. It might even be tonight. So get ready. >> Might be right now. >> It might be right now. >> You never know with MDY. What's your name? >> From where? >> Who else is brand new here? He's a kind of new for me at all. >> Ellie's mom is not brand new. Okay. >> Two days. Very impressed. Very impressed. Very meaning what do we say Rabbi is if you find a damaged trachea and you you made a according to everybody admits for sure said it. There are 16 types of trees. The mission says, and the first two talk about a hole in the esophagus and a messed up trachea, and it calls a traus, not an aa. We just said it's an aa. So, we have a contradiction that we're going to be dealing with until the end of the year today. A contradiction. On the one hand, our Misha calls it aa. On the other hand, it's a trai. is a traa if the gargaras the trachea the breathing pipe is dislocated is a traa so that's the question the answer we're going to have a few different answers here global specialist international financial services >> what do >> okay that's attempt number one, >> we're going to have to we're going to see force that that's not true. He did a nice on the esophagus and then he dislocated the ka the trachear is going to explain first he disconnected the ka the the breathing pipe and then heed the the eating tube the esophagus if he started out nicely did a nice on the esophagus and then he disconnected the trache So that's an according to everybody. Why? Because while then it's a according to everybody it's an it gives but that's what was saying if it was disconnected first and then we view it as if this animal had a problem. Sometimes it has a problem with the heart sometimes it has a problem with the trachea has nothing to do with this. and then you went and you shed the the esophagus, then it's a tra. The problem is it can't be. Why? Because our mission says differently. It says if you the esophagus, the feeding tube, feeding pad, and then he dislocated the trachea. But then what does it say? He first that's you're trying to say that this case if the tracheo was excuse me was dislocated first then it's called a traa but it says the tracheo was was dislocated first it says >> what you did both just which one >> no no no that's that's in a second that's in a second in a second but oh you're saying a different thing you're saying that Okay, fine. Okay. But it's an avail that if the garggeras was dislocated first, you dislo fine. You dislocated the gar and then you the the the sophagus. It's an avail not a tra. Don't tell me that that that's a case of a tra when it says it's an avail. Maybe he's talking about that he already shifted the esophagus. The problem is then it would be exactly the same case and that's what asks. Well, you'll say that in our Mishna one was together simultaneously and one was one after the other relation. It's a nice but it doesn't really work. Then you're saying the same case twice that after the esophagus came the after I'm sorry after the after the trachea came the esophagus it didn't happen in the reverse it happened first ka then the sophagus el so himself has another that the next mishna of the next peric alice you have to understand it as not aluch Traas it's not 16 only tra what it really means isuro these are the ones that are to eat some of them are some of them are don't don't be in the word out of the 16 some of them are in fact for instance that if you if you if you damage the trachea first and then the savings then it's a then it's an aa it's not a traa >> 18 >> the problem is that if you 18 okay 18 but check them out I don't know I thought it was 16 so the problem is that you're opening up a can of worms so to speak now you're introducing that the next mish that par also talks about so guess what I have a bunch of other nas that's not me mentioned in Mishna I saw a gista this famous gist the the cow that walks onto a bus half half a cow here's a Beautiful question. Here, take Where's this picture? Uh, this guy, it's missing. Take a look. It's missing its entire thigh. But, and when it sits down, you can see a hole. This cow is mooing away. It's in a lot of pain. I get it. The whole thing. If you touch it, do you become tummy? >> It's alive, right? >> Wrong. You become tummy. It's It's dead. You learn a lot of stuff in that hospital. >> Exactly. You can't bring it to says the only talks about animals, normal animals that are after they're dead, not when they're alive. This animal over here, it's winking at you. It's wearing a hat. It's it's could be walking around. If you touch it, you become next. Okay, so that's one. I have another in our Mishna. It's talking about take a look. There's already a nice incision right over here. And he goes and he takes a knife. Do it lefty. It's very dangerous. Takes a knife and continues the incision. Guess what? It's as if you didn't even check this pipe. This pipe doesn't even exist because it's already shed and then you shifted this guy the esophagus. Okay, so you shucked one pipe. It's as if you only shuffed one pipe. But the next mission is talking about So that's an avail because you only shove one pipe. It's an avail. But the next Mishna when it's a tra is talking about this is open over here. So you didn't cut over here. You cut right over here another place completely and that's considered a it's possible during the but if you in another place as if it had another m somewhere hole it has a hole in the heart over here it has a hole in its trachea who cares you're doing in another place and you're you're you're maxuring the tuma you're getting rid of the tuma because you're doing a full in another place on on the trachea asked a very simple question and that's it for today how says something else himself he says something else take a look at this just little uh simple science over here yeah for people that don't know this is the trachea the trachea leads right into what into the lungs so what if a person takes the trachea and chops it out chop grabs it in half. In other words, it's called cuts it in half. Then he before he gets to the veset, before he gets to the safet, he goes, he takes a a screwdriver and punctures the lung. Makes a bunch of the you know the the the B that goes takes the lungs, they blow it up to see if there's any circus. He finds three screwdriver holes in the lung. Is the animal trafe or not tra? The animal is not tra. Why is it not tra? because he already cut the kana. So when you cut the kana, you could remove it from the animal. Pretend there's no ka in the body. And the fact that you cut a a lung that's connected to the ka, it has no significance anymore. If you if you if you stabbed it in the heart, then you made it a trava. But there's no lungs. The lungs are in a box. The lungs are out of the animal already. How? By you cutting the kana, you removed the lungs. He calls it it's not a problem to to to poke the the lung as if you put in a basket when you when this when this um kana has a giant hole like this. So this k is already removed from the animal. It's in a basket. So you go and you start cutting over here down here. Who cares? It's as if you poked a hole in the in the lung. This is not even in the animal anymore. So you didn't do I don't like the terret. So I have another very very simple answer. Again we have a contradiction in our says that if you uproot the trachea first and then the the sophagus it's an ao in a traus. The second case in the Mishna calls it a tra. So he says very good. The second Mishna is is is before he took it back before took it back. We know that in our Mishna retracted is he also said in our then he retracted he said I have it's an so don't ask me that in one place says one place say the one place that says no is when Rika said in our Mishna he took it back and he calls it a but that place is a mission that was written before retracted it took him years to retract and he calls it a traa when people learn things about pen not like in our days everything's about Yeah, you give a kid a Mishna then another Mishna. If you take out a Mishna or confuse him completely adult also you can't take out words from a song you're not going to be able to continue how you going to continue when everything's about you you just leave it as is and you know that that's a mistake and the real one is it's if tra first and then saf is called a not a ra have a wonderful day >> merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world sponsor a shir today mdysponsor.com We're sponsored at mdy.com.