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[music]
I know
I
might [singing]
love
me.
>> [singing]
>> Laord
adore adj.
[singing]
Nallel
[singing]
hal.
I'm
going
la
[singing]
Oh
la.
>> Oh la [singing]
must be
the other.
Oh, your name must be
your name must be you. They are there.
must be
[screaming]
live
in Morocco from the banyan tree.
Many say it was their the nicest hotel
they've been to in their life.
Tonight
is coming to an end.
We will be somebody's baby is screaming
in the background. So I don't know if
somebody could talk to them.
>> That's why.
>> Is it Arian? No.
So, we had a tremendous inspirational
trip, a gala trip from beginning to end.
I'm just letting
those that are not here give them a
little insight of what we went. We had
great times. We had inspirational times.
We have very moving times. A lot of
people crying. A lot of people It's not
over tonight. We're going to have him
live right after Shir. We are in a By
the way, is you sure this is not I
wouldn't have put it by the door. Whose
idea was that?
>> I know, but there's a there's a
>> No, no, no. There's a glare. You sure
it's not acting as a as a mirror?
>> Let me see. Put it over here, please.
Put it on my screen.
Put it on my screen, please.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's see.
>> Okay. Next time, whoever setting up, do
not put it in front of a glass.
Next.
Okay. So,
it also means that you guys like
whatever flashes, that kind of stuff is
going to bounce. It's going to make a
bell.
Shabas was very very great speeches from
the Shushan brothers, Ben Shushan
brothers and uh
tonight during Mala um everybody's going
to get up for a minute or two. How many
know two minutes because it's a lot of
people and it takes a long time. Spill
it all out. The more emotional the
better. Prepare your speech during sheer
space out. Now think about what you're
going to say.
And uh that's pretty much it. We saw
animals. We saw We got bit by a monkey.
We had did ATVing camel back riding,
Sahara Desert,
sand surfing,
um, craziest caver that I've ever been
to. And a lot of people said it was like
the number one. Laika
and the kiss from Hashem that was on her
yard side, unprepared, unbeknownst to
us. You show up there. The day before we
found out it's her yard site. Um and Ben
very inspirational place.
Um so was an incredible trip from no
hiccups,
great singers,
great bal and the singers bam. I'm gonna
say this again. I said it a few times.
uh wherever we went great great voices
great vibe
and uh sometimes we sing till 1 in the
morning and then it was galdic
so I wish everybody was there basm those
who couldn't make it this year there's
always the next and uh basm will see you
in hopefully
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>> I want to start off with a question and
if you learned today's d if you cheated
please don't answer.
There was a tufa in andro a pretty long
period of time where was eating piger
when was that? It was they were allowed
to eat khazer after matra. What kufa was
it?
No,
I'll give you a hint. It was for seven
long years.
No, what do you say?
[clears throat]
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
The first seven years when they walked
into they were eating
they took the pigs from the go and they
had to eat it.
Start off with this uh thing if you
could see it. Those of you sitting over
there, you might not be able to see it,
but we learned in the Mishna
might be a V or two in there.
What what does it mean?
So, we're holding
I want to tell you what
means. What does mean
forever you do? It goes according to
gonna come a time
and you're going to do
says in the midbar we used to do
something called does anybody know what
is
no but literally
is like this according to Rash and I
like the most is doing instead of this
way you're going from from the neck from
the chin towards the chest of the animal
you're cutting it this way that's
you're saying shooting the head I hear
so that according to that was in the
accord that was also in the fundamental
is here according to that's how they
they would they would kill the animal
like that they kill animals and eat
them.
So the Torah says, "Hey, now you're
behave. Let's do
in the beginning you just kill the
animal
on
Benny. Do me a favor. Just lower it to
the next ones."
So once they came in, he said, "It's
awesome.
What happened? Was
>> it was
>> interesting.
You might want to rethink your
double purchase.
Oh, so continues in the midbar. They do.
They come to
now they went into
maybe she could you could eat cut it
slice it do whatever cut the head off
without
now I understand what the words are
is forever
be careful
>> what
you have to do you can't to go back to
what's the big what's the is
Oh,
so
talking about
what's like ba b b b b b b b b b b b b b
b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b
b b b b b b basically on this trip, we
had a lot of boss ta
seven different type of boser ta every
single meal. But today's kdesh I got to
give it to the caterers. I don't even
know their names. I know Shimmy Weiss
from NA put it all together. But who the
cater [applause]
am I ex? Tell me if I'm exact.
What?
>> Merzelle catering from where? Oh. Oh,
he's the guy from Brooklyn that he did.
Um,
he's in like magazine with his wife.
That guy. Okay. I met him. What? The
chef. That's who the chef. I don't know
if I'm Tell me if I'm exaggerating that
there's 50 types of fish today. Is it
what?
>> At least. What? What do you say?
>> At least 50
different types of fish. I know no one
fixing his his wife were we're in heaven
like it's like the meal. So no just just
explain to the mimic
said back in the day if you went on a
trip and they had a salami sandwich in
in in MOROCCO WAS LIKE WOW UNBELIEVABLE.
Not not 10 types of fish, not 20, not 50
plus. All bought from the local markets
here and made and produced here in
Miracle for us. Unbelievable. So that
that's what we could call
Tya. That's misha,
>> right?
>> Oh, so according to that, that was
never.
But it also reminds me that we're coming
up to now the weakest
and 50 49 50 [clears throat] minus one.
So we're coming and is the the one that
everybody agrees that of
eating
and also the says why do we eat?
says because in the midbar they were
eating uh trafe whatever they were
eating without
so turns out that all your
are and then he asked he says but wait a
minute we says is okay so he says you're
right says oh what
>> there's other problems like blood and
this and that okay fine
>> one day so because they didn't have
enough kale and haggal and this So they
they they one of the call upon him.
I said I'm not going to go off on
tangents. You keep me in line over here.
So holds that wasn't wasn't
the comes to say be careful with
there's no there was never. So when the
Torah came and the Torah says now you
have to do
you have to you have to do
so
it's talking about and it says
when they're in the when they're in the
sorry when they're in the midbar
you're in the midbar you're allowed to
do so what does mean
The Torah is telling you in the midbar
you have to carbon your own mate. You
can do again top to bottom slight shoot
in the head like he said
according to that you could slice. I
don't want to show myself. You see
that's why but instead of
this way the neck you this way just like
this picture. Yeah.
>> Oh, I had a video. I almost forgot to
show you the video here. Let's show it.
It's a little long.
We have very small.
[laughter]
[music]
He thought he's going to be be a
millionaire.
>> [music]
>> complaining to the rabbi.
It's going to be small. You could only
have a carbon. You can't have your own
bus.
>> [laughter]
>> Whether we could eat the hero
[music]
>> [music]
[music]
>> Okay. So,
so why does it say when according to
allowed to do I just cut it open and
kill it?
Somebody did he did during the he did
all the things that pass he ruins it.
Oh, and it says the word
meaning he caught it the wrong
direction. where he he pulls out the
you don't have to do. Now only applies
to
you don't have to do
if it's permitted to do
so that that's part of the that's what
you do. So it's you killed let's say a
deer with why shouldn't you do
say
you're right it's talking about in our
days this this this Mishna is saying if
the happened in our days where
is so therefore it's not considered it's
not considered you don't have to do and
in the midbar they did have to do but
the comes after the midbar the saying in
our days when you do you don't have to
according to you're always allowed to
eat.
What does mean again
means you're allowed to eat an animal
like we do today and eat the meat. You
don't have to a carbon and have an
excuse why you're bringing a carbon and
then you eat the steaks that are left
over. You stab an animal. So,
you're allowed to eat this uh this deer
when you're
that's how just like you did then today
also you should you can continue eating
but according to there's no such thing
as bring as eating a deer in the midbar
why because the only time you could eat
a deer any animal in the midbar is water
according to only a carbon
And you can't bring a deer as a carbon.
So there was never a mat of eating a
deer in the midbar. So what does it
mean? Just like you ate a deer in the
midbar. So you're going to continue
eating deer in part. Doesn't work like
that.
Says they did eat deer in the asa.
Why? Because the beas they didn't eat.
Why? Because you could you could bring
it as a carbon. If you bring it as a
carbon, you're not shing for your own.
But since you can't bring a deer as a
carbon, so you could
eat it.
Interesting question here. What happens
with meat that gets stuck in your
freezer in two different periods of
so you an animal you cut it up you shoot
it in the head you package it put it in
the freezer and it's you're allowed to
eat it because you're in the midbar
and then you go into then you go into
you have all this meat that's that never
had and now you have to do are you
allowed to eat the meat or not
that's the question what's normal fix
now thinking to ask
fix wants to ask we're not in the mid
we're not we're not coming
>> oh so Rashi answers
that you're right
it's not today but it's a cool question
it's a very interesting question
>> you had you had exactly you had meat
that was to you but changed the rules of
how meat is and how the is and and now
all of a sudden we have to I didn't have
to yesterday. So when I bought it from
Benny's Meat or whatever it was back
then, it was great meat. It was kosher
meat. Now not. So he says,
let's just read it inside.
You cut up this animal. You didn't even
chef it. You just chopped him up while
he was alive
and they brought it in. Why should they
why should it go to waste?
What's tell me exactly when this
happened?
If it's the seven years that when they
went in,
so why you saying say a lion say
something that's not as disgusting as
says it
fat of the they used to eat. Huh?
Pork loins, pork rind,
>> kids are bacon.
>> The famous M. I say it once in a while.
I got to say it again. There's a big Mr.
Haskell here. Somehow we'll find it.
Aartis goes over to June and says, "I
want you to eat the pork." He says, "No
way." So he pulls out his knife. He
says, "Listen, if you don't eat the
pork, I'll chop your head off." He says,
"Okay, well, what do you want me to do?"
He says, "Uh, here's the plate. Lick up
the the leftover." So the Jew goes takes
looks at he tells the parts listen I'm
very upset at you if you're really going
to put a knife to my neck why don't you
give me a piece of pork why don't you
give me the little thing
the idea is that a lot of times you do
mitz were forced
aid that's a that's a and the whole trip
is about we're in Morocco
you force a knife no sham I don't want
to eat pork said no I'm not looking for
excuses put knives to my neck and Then
I'm going to eat the pork. But
I'm not looking for excuses. I'm looking
to do the tire the way it is.
Huh?
>> What about
>> Oh, yeah.
>> She had she had a way out. La. The big
part of the story is that she had a way
out. She didn't even have to
convert. All she had to do is what? Oh,
yeah. Yeah. They said be act like Esther
and it's and she said no I'm not looking
for now I'm not doing this and kill me.
That was what was so powerful. A young
girl 17-year-old girl.
I'm sorry.
Oh.
of course you could eat a a cow that was
killed incorrectly. If you're eat a cow
that that that didn't have a good
so we're talking about this good freezer
or like they pickled this meat really
well. So it went from the eight years
entire
no even the first seven years of of
only when you grab the from are you
allowed to eat it but if you had tr in
your freezer never gave you a for that
maybe
I don't have a great answer for
Again, going back to here,
we already said means even chicken.
We said
there's no to ever
eat
in the future. You're always going to
have to do.
Now, I need to know what's missing on
this list.
What? What exactly is this?
It means all these different utensils
with a with a stone, with glass, with
Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. A lot of
good stuff here. Okay, we're going to
have to go.
Okay.
>> [sighs]
>> We we're getting into technical things
about the knife.
She says,
"Wait a minute. If we go back to this
list,
so has to be similar to
and what's that? You're saying that
you're talking about the animal,
not
Not the device talking about what type
has to be chicken. Even chicken and and
then regular animal you have to do to
all three things on the list have to be
referring to the same thing. If you're
talking about devices
so then you're talking about the the
thing that does you're doing with so
then the top two also have to be talking
about the knives. If you're talking
about what is the animal, so then the
third one on the bottom also has to be
talking about an animal. You just told
me no, it's talking about a piece of
glass, talking about a piece of this.
We're talking about animals now.
>> What?
>> Pick a lane.
>> Exactly. Pick a lane. Love it. We have
to be consistency. Be consistent. If the
two on the top are talking about a
certain thing, so there's one on the
bottom also. You can't pick and choose.
So therefore says
[snorts]
so he says oh is referring to the not
the animal we're not talking about
chicken oh that a chicken needs we're
talking about that even ai could do even
that we had the
again referring to
top of the top of the the roof on the on
the on the ship. He said, you know, it
might be of and both of them.
So these are all not referring to the
animal. These are all technical things
of how to do. You could do it with a
rock, you can do with glass, and you can
do it with a reimag.
So it was mentioned a bunch of times
over Shabas that I made a commotion on
the bus. We're driving uh in in the
hills of Morocco and beautiful landscape
and I noticed because I just learned I
was preparing that daf in the Maybach.
Thank you.
Then I was thrown out from the Maybach
and I and I I went I went into the bus
with the rest of the I was already prep
done preparing so I really didn't need
it then. And uh so I'm in the bus and
I'm looking out the window and I see a
guy. I'm out. I see a guy with a sickle.
He's going like this and LIKE SICKLE
LIKE LIKE take a picture. It would be
unbelievable. Like that night I could
show sickle in Morocco. And then like
five six minutes later I don't know what
it was and Abby Kamyanski he sees the
same thing. He sees a guy with a sickle
and he says, "STOP THE BUS. [screaming]
STOP." The driver thought that he ran
someone over or whatever. He almost went
off a cliff.
>> Huh?
>> Oh, sinkho. Sinkhole. kids are
>> but it was a kiss from Hashem that you
know we were learning about a how often
do you learn about a sickle and see a
sickle in action first of all I've never
seen a sickle in action period ever I'm
thinking about it now I saw it on
YouTube but I never saw a guy without a
tractor you know like a I I need to do
this by hand who who has that just so
happened to be and and if you would say
that I made it up a Kamaskki also saw it
he saw the guy was like a a stick and it
had a it wasn't a round one it had like
the like in the pictures of the of the
of this farm now. Okay. So you're not
allowed to do with a
with a with a saw says interesting
thing.
He took a knife.
We're going to need this so I might as
well multi get ready.
He took a knife and made a nick here. A
nick here. A nick here. A bunch of
nicks. sends the Israeli
shak on nick one on Nick two and he did
this a number of times he kept on
sending knives says each knife had a
bunch of different gimmas different
types we're going to see different
pictures of what agimma looks like
reminds me that uh
there's a few stories like this but in
their trying to figure out whether or
not these mutim
knows his stuff so they send him and
they put on different like fake blood
and z and they were messing these people
up. Is this kosh or what?
>> Yeah. And in one of them they took like
blood from a cow and they put it on said
no.
What is this? And the guy wrote back
like don't be a behemoth or something
like that you know like he right away.
There was but anyways
[snorts] they were doing tests you know
but this this is he really wanted to
learn. He wanted to learn what what aim
is what aim is not. Here we go. Barashem
that we have crazy brand new pictures
even in our garra in the official
edition garra we have nice pictures take
a look at them but it's even more than
this
I could show well when we get there yeah
we'll get there
if it has a bunch of nicks all over the
place then you got to treat it like a
saw saw's no
If it only has one,
I hope I could say this. Well, a guy
goes to get a a test for forkita.
And he comes in and he said, the rabbi
says,
"What's a garis?" She says, "Oh, that's
a girl that's a 12 12 and a half." He
says, "Oh, so so then what's a bearas?"
That's that's a dry date. She says, "Oh,
really?" I said, "Then what's a
greggeras?" He says, "That I wrote it
down. That's like a zer." So then he
says, "So what's a no?" So gregaras, he
says, "That's a a chicken that that's on
an egg." She says, "So then what's a
she says [snorts]
over here?" It switches like he says,
"Oh, that's like a z." She says, "So
what's that?" Andreos. She says, "Oh,
that's the yamagle." She says, "What's
the?" She says, "That I don't know." She
says, "Oh, you're out of here. You're
not a good." He says, "What? Just cuz I
don't know what the is, that's why I
can't be."
So, I guess the point is like when you
mess up, just fess up to it. I messed
up. Don't keep on going. It's It's much
better for the Israelis. No,
then some basically the joke has to stop
there. Okay, fine.
So we have like this.
We have a we'll see in a second what it
is.
What does it mean?
Here we go. Basically
it has it's a V a V shape in. So, if you
think about it,
I didn't see all the stuff that Yoshi
did. I know there's a bunch.
Okay,
maybe it'll come in soon. We were
working on something for this.
Oh, here. Here it is. Beautiful. Check
this out.
>> [snorts]
>> When you have a Vshape,
not a saw, not the Vshape like this, but
an inverted V. Yeah. Let me show you
again this. In other words, a piece of
the knife is missing.
So what happens is if you go in slow
motion
the knife softens up or weakens up the
skin
and then when it hits the se
the second part of the V that is going
to rip the skin and that's the problem.
The problem is ripping of the skin not a
smooth
cut. That's awesome. So let's see it
here. Let's see how that works.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean
that's that's a that's a saw. That's a
me. Okay. So, we don't have that yet.
Right. You see the pieces falling out,
meaning it's not cut nicely.
She says
it has a V like this and in it's missing
the the the metal from here. So it hits
the the skin twice. By the time it gets
to the ka, it hits the skin gets to the
con. It rips the ka.
Here's
it only has it doesn't have a real V. It
has a little one dip. One dip, not two
dips.
It's not like this. It's just like this.
Just one. Let me see the guitar for a
second how we did it.
Nice size picture is great.
So
says
what happens is the first
if I could maybe take a here laser.
This this part right over here weakens
the skin and this part over here
cuts.
says the Gmorra,
the second one rips the the the
So, if you only have one
one thing like this,
you only have one. So, what happens?
Think about it. The knife cuts very deep
into the skin. By the time you have that
one little guy like a what do you what's
a great way to like a like a hanger like
a cliffhanger like um this indentation
is going to grab you could literally see
how this knife is terrible. It's going
once it hits that this piece right over
here.
It that this piece is going to pull
instead of cut. It's going to pull and
sever the
rip. It's going to rip the the the sim
instead of cutting them nicely. It has
oak in it. What's the difference as the
garra if it has two or one? It's the
same exact idea.
Says gar.
Let's see if we have it. Or maybe that's
it. Oh, here. No. Here we go. It's all
the way at the end of the knife.
By the time you get there, nothing
happens.
I don't care where it is. So, it's all
the way at the end. It's right over
here. Great. But when it gets there,
that's going to pull and rip the the
says
he started
he went forward with the knife. So, in
other words, that little hook at the end
never touches the animal. If he went
back, then it would pull the skin. And
but he only went one motion forward
here. Let me I'll demonstrate it
that you let use it that the is that if
it was two if two it would be a problem.
If this is where it is this is where the
problem is. So he's going and this is
the neck of the animal. He goes forward
like that.
But if you would pull back that's where
the issue would happen. Then this would
pull on the skin. But all he all he's
doing is one motion like this.
We have to catch a flight tomorrow.
Fine.
No mistakes. Hopefully.
>> What are those ducks?
>> Frogs. [snorts]
>> So if you have a long enough knife, you
don't have to go back and forth. You do
have to go back and forth on a short on
this kind of knife. Yes. On a really
long knife.
said,
"Okay, now goes. Now we're going to fly.
If it has this indentation of V, you
can't
if you do use it.
If it only has one pull on it, one
thing, you shouldn't here. This is
you shouldn't use it. But you could you
could do a workound and try not to bump
into that thing. Okay. But you shouldn't
use such a knife.
If you have something like this in a
knife, it looks at the shape.
I think then the the might be a little
nicer. It's easier to Yeah, but it's not
going to be nice on this thing. Let me
see.
Okay. [snorts]
No, because there's no shadow. The
shadow is is a little whatever. Okay.
If it goes up and down, not a problem. I
guess eventually all knives are going to
have not this is an exaggerated one. But
when you do a lot of
[snorts]
sharpening, thank you. Then uh I guess
you know something happens. That's not a
problem.
on the one hand says if you have this
indentation it's possible
on the other hand himself says it's
you go back and forth it's a problem
because it's going to grab but if you
only want in one direction it's fine
what if it's like I don't know if You
ever had the privilege of holding a
piece of grain in your hand? Not of the
grain, but the whole thing, you know,
with the little whiskers that come out
of it.
So, it's it's very like um tiny little
um thorns on it or like it's very
very not smooth. So, what if the knife
is very not smooth?
So he says,
"I would love to have such meat from
such it's great stuff." In other words,
it's perfect.
What do you see? Checking of a knife in
the
said he takes up the knife and he says,
"This is what you're going to like
this." It it seems like from the P here
like this.
So the brings over here B is 12 and he
says that a knife has to be 12 thumb
lengths one to 12
and from and he brings a you know like a
riot from this b like the gimatri baz
and the ra says that if a doesn't know
that he's posita
what do you need apostle asking if the
if the knife has a neg
it's pulling and ruining the the
I don't need a tell me that
says
what do you have to go to
say what do you mean
you don't need to show the it's only to
give him honorar
You're right.
It's only kind of thing that that they
have to go show the and and the is only
this is this is going to gross some
people out. You would take the knife
and put it in the sun and then you look
on the ground and you see in the ground
this is not going to gross anybody out.
The next thing coming up
here, let's see over here what he did.
He's he's he's showing it this way.
Rashi says in the shadow. You look at
the shadow on the ground. I'm doing it
right now.
Okay,
let's see. Maybe. Oh, that's the second
shot in Rashi. Very good. Show like
that. You can see it. What's next? Mayo.
That's one shot in Rashi. You put it
over the thing. I like the second shot
better. Let's see who does the second
shot. Yes. Perfect. Put a drip of water
on the top.
Oh, it's very very
So these are the That's how you do it.
Now, let's see if he has the third way
to do.
No. I wonder why that would be. [snorts]
So, let's see inside.
I have a volunteer told me he wants to
do it. So, get ready.
They use the sun. They use the water.
Get over here and show us how to do it.
>> Does anybody want to show us how to
check the knife?
>> Barry, you want to you left you your
tongue for a reason?
>> Yeah. Can
>> you imagine? You put your tongue on the
edge of the knife.
>> Even even for ratings, I'm not I'm not
asking to do it.
>> Yeah, we're getting there.
Where am I?
Take a little here and run it down and
see if it gets stuck somewhere.
If you're going to meat,
then you need to use meat to see if it
could cut meat. In other words, you have
to use your finger
to see if it could check that animal.
You can't use hair. You can't use other
stuff.
>> No, it doesn't cut. You go do it
smoothly. They know how they they know
how to do They go like this. They go
very very smooth. You see if it if it if
it disturbs it was very smooth. I tried
it out tonight and it wasn't soap.
No, I didn't. I didn't
say you need to check it a few ways. On
your finger on your nail.
I was I was going to do it over here for
the first time. I'm a little nervous.
I can't even see it.
>> Okay, fine. Anyways, on all three, you
have to check it on this side. Check it
on the on the spits and check it on this
side. So, that's three.
So says
um
somebody said in your name
you said in the name of
you need to do on the meat on your
finger on your nail and on three sides.
So
that's 3
* 2
that's six. But you also have to go back
and forth. So that's 12 dikas.
You see also that's b
here again you have the three sides.
Huh?
>> Oh like this.
>> Like this.
>> [snorts]
>> You have to cover the handle. You have
to cover the handle so it's not
appearing.
>> Wrong side. [laughter]
>> How many times did it happen? How many
times it happened that your father
started cutting the kala was the wrong
side of the knife.
>> Okay. [snorts]
>> [laughter]
>> Oh my.
[laughter]
She said, "No, you said they said in my
name."
I said, "You should use your finger." I
said, "You should use your nail." But I
didn't say you have to check three
sides. One side is enough. The the
sharpness.
Yes, you're right. I said you have to
check it on your finger and on your nail
and on all three sides.
I never said it in the name of said
somebody else. Not not in the name
ofashi.
So they brought a knife to say check it
out.
So passes it on and says you check it. I
want to see how you do check it. So he
checked it on his nail on his finger on
all three sides.
Perfect.
He passed the test.
You need to check. You need to use your
nail and your and your finger.
But not on three directions.
I'll remind you this famous case that we
had.
He takes a knife. He puts it in the
fire. He makes it red hot. And then he
does. So what was Imar's problem with
that? Remember burning the esophagus and
the trachea with the sides of the knife.
Before you finish up the you're going to
make it tray by burning it. What did
Gumar say? No, it's not how it works.
The it's taut and the the sharpness of
the knife goes in first and before the
side of the knife has any chance to
touch the sides of the kadesh it pops
open like a a it's like a it's waiting
to expand. So as soon as you cut it pops
open. So he's saying you don't the sides
of the knife never touch the it's only
the sharpness. So what's the point of
checking the sides of the knife and with
that we finish? Let's just read it
inside.
Because the the sharpness goes in before
the heat.
We ask but what about the sides of the
knife? They're gonna burn.
It expands. It pops open. doesn't let
you
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